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		<title>By: Tracy Smith</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/13/is-the-wga-just-another-lousy-union/2122#comment-2623</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena,
  I don&#039;t know if anyone will see this post, but if you do....
I am the owner of a small Entertainment and Production Company. Before,  I was a CBS O and O Creative Services Producer. Specializing in programming outside of News, and Promotions. I am not a member of any guild.  I&#039;ve definitely had my experiences at using my writing skills to manipulate. And when the awards came, I bought into my own B.S. In the above post I mentioned being sold on our own &quot;hyperbole&quot;.   I was not casually making a statement about others. I know exactly how we can have our ego stroked by our &quot;work&quot;.  And how the instantaneous gratification factors available in our industry can distort your perception.   I think it was written in a &quot;Star Trek&quot; episode, &quot;For the World is Hollow, and I have touched the Sky&quot;.    I believe the strike to be a bit of this. It&#039;s not that the WGA is a lousy union, they are not.  Nor are the Studio Execs total monsters.
The WGA has made a strategic error.  The guild will not stop this industry, if a solution cannot be reached, New ways and New talent will eventually be sought.  It might even rise somewhere else besides Hollywood.  It&#039;s  a basic lesson from Sun Tzu  &quot;only fight when you can win&quot;.  If the strike goes on long enough, and it becomes a war of attrition, the person with most wins, everyone else loses. And if that happens, everything that was built so far, goes a way, and we start over. 
 I am angry at how both sides are handling it right now.  I have a freelance member of my staff returning to our state, because he just lost his residence in Hollywood because of the strike.  It&#039;s not cheap to live there, let alone listen to some fairly financially successful folks, talk about &quot;more&quot;, &quot;our&quot; and &quot;my&quot;.   I did not like the depressed tone of his voice when he called me about finding work. It&#039;s the holidays, and that just flat out sucks.
 If the writers were getting &quot;graphite lung&quot;, or the producers were really being monsters, I would probably be a little less angry.
 Didn&#039;t one of those folks on the picket lines write &quot;There is only so much fortune a man can have&quot;?  Another one on the other side, financed those words. I think they all made great money with that.
 The reality of this situation is not a battle of writers vs. studios.  Work was stopped, people are losing their jobs, holidays are destroyed. Homes lost. Medical Benefits are going away.   For a few percentage points over New Media?  One that no one can say if it is a viewer shift, or new profit?  (That equals potential greed on both sides in relation to current earnings)
  There is a war on.  1 million people were without power last week in freezing weather.  Katrina victims are still trying to recover.  Then there&#039;s that pesky mortgage issue.  Is new media really worth an actual strike, or could it have been the one point that was &quot;tabled&quot; for future negotiations?  As writers and producers, we are always told to &quot;think outside the box.&quot;  As of right now, there is more harm than good. It&#039;s time to get seriously real and get people back to work!

 Good Will, Good Faith, Honor, and Integrity, that&#039;s what&#039;s needed.
....those are the things we make the movies and television about!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena,<br />
  I don&#8217;t know if anyone will see this post, but if you do&#8230;.<br />
I am the owner of a small Entertainment and Production Company. Before,  I was a CBS O and O Creative Services Producer. Specializing in programming outside of News, and Promotions. I am not a member of any guild.  I&#8217;ve definitely had my experiences at using my writing skills to manipulate. And when the awards came, I bought into my own B.S. In the above post I mentioned being sold on our own &#8220;hyperbole&#8221;.   I was not casually making a statement about others. I know exactly how we can have our ego stroked by our &#8220;work&#8221;.  And how the instantaneous gratification factors available in our industry can distort your perception.   I think it was written in a &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; episode, &#8220;For the World is Hollow, and I have touched the Sky&#8221;.    I believe the strike to be a bit of this. It&#8217;s not that the WGA is a lousy union, they are not.  Nor are the Studio Execs total monsters.<br />
The WGA has made a strategic error.  The guild will not stop this industry, if a solution cannot be reached, New ways and New talent will eventually be sought.  It might even rise somewhere else besides Hollywood.  It&#8217;s  a basic lesson from Sun Tzu  &#8220;only fight when you can win&#8221;.  If the strike goes on long enough, and it becomes a war of attrition, the person with most wins, everyone else loses. And if that happens, everything that was built so far, goes a way, and we start over.<br />
 I am angry at how both sides are handling it right now.  I have a freelance member of my staff returning to our state, because he just lost his residence in Hollywood because of the strike.  It&#8217;s not cheap to live there, let alone listen to some fairly financially successful folks, talk about &#8220;more&#8221;, &#8220;our&#8221; and &#8220;my&#8221;.   I did not like the depressed tone of his voice when he called me about finding work. It&#8217;s the holidays, and that just flat out sucks.<br />
 If the writers were getting &#8220;graphite lung&#8221;, or the producers were really being monsters, I would probably be a little less angry.<br />
 Didn&#8217;t one of those folks on the picket lines write &#8220;There is only so much fortune a man can have&#8221;?  Another one on the other side, financed those words. I think they all made great money with that.<br />
 The reality of this situation is not a battle of writers vs. studios.  Work was stopped, people are losing their jobs, holidays are destroyed. Homes lost. Medical Benefits are going away.   For a few percentage points over New Media?  One that no one can say if it is a viewer shift, or new profit?  (That equals potential greed on both sides in relation to current earnings)<br />
  There is a war on.  1 million people were without power last week in freezing weather.  Katrina victims are still trying to recover.  Then there&#8217;s that pesky mortgage issue.  Is new media really worth an actual strike, or could it have been the one point that was &#8220;tabled&#8221; for future negotiations?  As writers and producers, we are always told to &#8220;think outside the box.&#8221;  As of right now, there is more harm than good. It&#8217;s time to get seriously real and get people back to work!</p>
<p> Good Will, Good Faith, Honor, and Integrity, that&#8217;s what&#8217;s needed.<br />
&#8230;.those are the things we make the movies and television about!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Smith</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/13/is-the-wga-just-another-lousy-union/2122#comment-16060</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena,&lt;br&gt;  I don&#039;t know if anyone will see this post, but if you do....&lt;br&gt;I am the owner of a small Entertainment and Production Company. Before,  I was a CBS O and O Creative Services Producer. Specializing in programming outside of News, and Promotions. I am not a member of any guild.  I&#039;ve definitely had my experiences at using my writing skills to manipulate. And when the awards came, I bought into my own B.S. In the above post I mentioned being sold on our own &quot;hyperbole&quot;.   I was not casually making a statement about others. I know exactly how we can have our ego stroked by our &quot;work&quot;.  And how the instantaneous gratification factors available in our industry can distort your perception.   I think it was written in a &quot;Star Trek&quot; episode, &quot;For the World is Hollow, and I have touched the Sky&quot;.    I believe the strike to be a bit of this. It&#039;s not that the WGA is a lousy union, they are not.  Nor are the Studio Execs total monsters.&lt;br&gt;The WGA has made a strategic error.  The guild will not stop this industry, if a solution cannot be reached, New ways and New talent will eventually be sought.  It might even rise somewhere else besides Hollywood.  It&#039;s  a basic lesson from Sun Tzu  &quot;only fight when you can win&quot;.  If the strike goes on long enough, and it becomes a war of attrition, the person with most wins, everyone else loses. And if that happens, everything that was built so far, goes a way, and we start over. &lt;br&gt; I am angry at how both sides are handling it right now.  I have a freelance member of my staff returning to our state, because he just lost his residence in Hollywood because of the strike.  It&#039;s not cheap to live there, let alone listen to some fairly financially successful folks, talk about &quot;more&quot;, &quot;our&quot; and &quot;my&quot;.   I did not like the depressed tone of his voice when he called me about finding work. It&#039;s the holidays, and that just flat out sucks.&lt;br&gt; If the writers were getting &quot;graphite lung&quot;, or the producers were really being monsters, I would probably be a little less angry.&lt;br&gt; Didn&#039;t one of those folks on the picket lines write &quot;There is only so much fortune a man can have&quot;?  Another one on the other side, financed those words. I think they all made great money with that.&lt;br&gt; The reality of this situation is not a battle of writers vs. studios.  Work was stopped, people are losing their jobs, holidays are destroyed. Homes lost. Medical Benefits are going away.   For a few percentage points over New Media?  One that no one can say if it is a viewer shift, or new profit?  (That equals potential greed on both sides in relation to current earnings)&lt;br&gt;  There is a war on.  1 million people were without power last week in freezing weather.  Katrina victims are still trying to recover.  Then there&#039;s that pesky mortgage issue.  Is new media really worth an actual strike, or could it have been the one point that was &quot;tabled&quot; for future negotiations?  As writers and producers, we are always told to &quot;think outside the box.&quot;  As of right now, there is more harm than good. It&#039;s time to get seriously real and get people back to work!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Good Will, Good Faith, Honor, and Integrity, that&#039;s what&#039;s needed.&lt;br&gt;....those are the things we make the movies and television about!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena,<br />  I don&#39;t know if anyone will see this post, but if you do&#8230;.<br />I am the owner of a small Entertainment and Production Company. Before,  I was a CBS O and O Creative Services Producer. Specializing in programming outside of News, and Promotions. I am not a member of any guild.  I&#39;ve definitely had my experiences at using my writing skills to manipulate. And when the awards came, I bought into my own B.S. In the above post I mentioned being sold on our own &#8220;hyperbole&#8221;.   I was not casually making a statement about others. I know exactly how we can have our ego stroked by our &#8220;work&#8221;.  And how the instantaneous gratification factors available in our industry can distort your perception.   I think it was written in a &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; episode, &#8220;For the World is Hollow, and I have touched the Sky&#8221;.    I believe the strike to be a bit of this. It&#39;s not that the WGA is a lousy union, they are not.  Nor are the Studio Execs total monsters.<br />The WGA has made a strategic error.  The guild will not stop this industry, if a solution cannot be reached, New ways and New talent will eventually be sought.  It might even rise somewhere else besides Hollywood.  It&#39;s  a basic lesson from Sun Tzu  &#8220;only fight when you can win&#8221;.  If the strike goes on long enough, and it becomes a war of attrition, the person with most wins, everyone else loses. And if that happens, everything that was built so far, goes a way, and we start over. <br /> I am angry at how both sides are handling it right now.  I have a freelance member of my staff returning to our state, because he just lost his residence in Hollywood because of the strike.  It&#39;s not cheap to live there, let alone listen to some fairly financially successful folks, talk about &#8220;more&#8221;, &#8220;our&#8221; and &#8220;my&#8221;.   I did not like the depressed tone of his voice when he called me about finding work. It&#39;s the holidays, and that just flat out sucks.<br /> If the writers were getting &#8220;graphite lung&#8221;, or the producers were really being monsters, I would probably be a little less angry.<br /> Didn&#39;t one of those folks on the picket lines write &#8220;There is only so much fortune a man can have&#8221;?  Another one on the other side, financed those words. I think they all made great money with that.<br /> The reality of this situation is not a battle of writers vs. studios.  Work was stopped, people are losing their jobs, holidays are destroyed. Homes lost. Medical Benefits are going away.   For a few percentage points over New Media?  One that no one can say if it is a viewer shift, or new profit?  (That equals potential greed on both sides in relation to current earnings)<br />  There is a war on.  1 million people were without power last week in freezing weather.  Katrina victims are still trying to recover.  Then there&#39;s that pesky mortgage issue.  Is new media really worth an actual strike, or could it have been the one point that was &#8220;tabled&#8221; for future negotiations?  As writers and producers, we are always told to &#8220;think outside the box.&#8221;  As of right now, there is more harm than good. It&#39;s time to get seriously real and get people back to work!</p>
<p> Good Will, Good Faith, Honor, and Integrity, that&#39;s what&#39;s needed.<br />&#8230;.those are the things we make the movies and television about!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/13/is-the-wga-just-another-lousy-union/2122#comment-2611</link>
		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Tracy for your very thought full post.

From where I stand, the WGA negotiations have been way too much over short-term gains and respect and not enough about the long-term health of the industry.

To give you one example, the WGA is making a huge point out of getting a fair share of internet revenue that hasn&#039;t materialized anywhere outside of studio Pr releases, but they are not even talking at all about the fact Saturday Night have been de-programmed on the major networks.

Not having Saturday Night (and Jeff Zucker would like to de-program 8-9 every day!) was a major loss of well-paid jobs for the WGA, but somehow the WGA leadership is more concerned about the internet.

It makes one very pessimistic about the future financial health of all involved in the film industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Tracy for your very thought full post.</p>
<p>From where I stand, the WGA negotiations have been way too much over short-term gains and respect and not enough about the long-term health of the industry.</p>
<p>To give you one example, the WGA is making a huge point out of getting a fair share of internet revenue that hasn&#8217;t materialized anywhere outside of studio Pr releases, but they are not even talking at all about the fact Saturday Night have been de-programmed on the major networks.</p>
<p>Not having Saturday Night (and Jeff Zucker would like to de-program 8-9 every day!) was a major loss of well-paid jobs for the WGA, but somehow the WGA leadership is more concerned about the internet.</p>
<p>It makes one very pessimistic about the future financial health of all involved in the film industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/13/is-the-wga-just-another-lousy-union/2122#comment-16059</link>
		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Tracy for your very thought full post.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From where I stand, the WGA negotiations have been way too much over short-term gains and respect and not enough about the long-term health of the industry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To give you one example, the WGA is making a huge point out of getting a fair share of internet revenue that hasn&#039;t materialized anywhere outside of studio Pr releases, but they are not even talking at all about the fact Saturday Night have been de-programmed on the major networks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not having Saturday Night (and Jeff Zucker would like to de-program 8-9 every day!) was a major loss of well-paid jobs for the WGA, but somehow the WGA leadership is more concerned about the internet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It makes one very pessimistic about the future financial health of all involved in the film industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Tracy for your very thought full post.</p>
<p>From where I stand, the WGA negotiations have been way too much over short-term gains and respect and not enough about the long-term health of the industry.</p>
<p>To give you one example, the WGA is making a huge point out of getting a fair share of internet revenue that hasn&#39;t materialized anywhere outside of studio Pr releases, but they are not even talking at all about the fact Saturday Night have been de-programmed on the major networks.</p>
<p>Not having Saturday Night (and Jeff Zucker would like to de-program 8-9 every day!) was a major loss of well-paid jobs for the WGA, but somehow the WGA leadership is more concerned about the internet.</p>
<p>It makes one very pessimistic about the future financial health of all involved in the film industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Smith</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/13/is-the-wga-just-another-lousy-union/2122#comment-2568</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena,
 You and I agree on the manipulation factor. And I know the Nielsen ratings take a samples from real people. What I didn&#039;t realize is what you said about DVD and Film sales, you are right.  In my market when overnight&#039;s started they had three hundred meters sampling a population of 2 million, diaries aside, this left a huge margin for error. 
  Reliable accounting and reporting is the problem. Without this, how can value be determined or returned?  It&#039;s not just in the writer&#039;s part of the business,  The value system is a bit creative in and of itself.
 All of us in the industry take part in  building entertainment, or information products. They are for a consumer.  Without the consumer buying, watching, or downloading, our products,  they have no actual market value.  (I hate saying that, but it&#039;s true)
 If we built cars or toys, our income would be based on the wholesale or retail sales of those products.  And the net gain would be realized after the costs of building the car or toy are taken into account.
In essence a fair and reasonable wage for writing, creating, directing, editing, acting, whatever it may be should be paid to build the product. This is the risk. The risk needs to be responsibly minimized. The sales should pay back the investment, plus a reasonable percentage for those who took the risk financing it.  The creative residuals also get paid at a percentage that takes into account the upfront payments for the &quot;labor&quot; portion of the job and based on the actual performance of the property,  and nothing more. If the product is a &quot;hit&quot; everyone wins. (and it becomes a bonus)  If not, the risk is minimized for all. Right now if a product fails the producing company is bearing the bulk of the risk, but a lot of folks just walked off with millions in their pocket prior to actual performance of the product.
(I know this is over simplified but I hope it illustrates the point.)
Now here is the stunner, If a car salesman makes a sale, and that sale is returned, does he get to keep the commission? Absolutely not. Now he&#039;s in a position to have to make up for the loss, and get ahead.
In our business we have created so many strange &quot;performance liability&quot; situations. No one has the actual truth. And lots of people are getting fees, and the performance factors are ignored. There are not a lot of other business folks who could survive if their business is run the way the Film and Television industry is currently running.  This plus the hyperbole we feed ourselves, is causing a huge problem in doing business not just with the world, but with ourselves.

  Please don&#039;t get me wrong. I love this business. It is my passion to create. In my part of the world, I&#039;ve been involved for 21 years, and loved most of it.  There are people on both sides of the strike I admire.
I will make an appointment to watch a show written by certain writers, or a director, producer, or in the case of this interrupted season, a certain &quot;consultant.&quot;   

 I know about the false statements of loss that are perpetrated, It is a really foul part of the industry and everyone knows it. That kind of thing also has to stop.  It is quite simply, despicable.

In my opinion, I would like us all to get serious about reforming our business models.  And keep the industry sound for the future generations of Film and Television Professionals and Creatives.

 But most of all for the audience who pays for our products.   It is time for a little less greed, a better approach,  and a lot more wisdom.

With Respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena,<br />
 You and I agree on the manipulation factor. And I know the Nielsen ratings take a samples from real people. What I didn&#8217;t realize is what you said about DVD and Film sales, you are right.  In my market when overnight&#8217;s started they had three hundred meters sampling a population of 2 million, diaries aside, this left a huge margin for error.<br />
  Reliable accounting and reporting is the problem. Without this, how can value be determined or returned?  It&#8217;s not just in the writer&#8217;s part of the business,  The value system is a bit creative in and of itself.<br />
 All of us in the industry take part in  building entertainment, or information products. They are for a consumer.  Without the consumer buying, watching, or downloading, our products,  they have no actual market value.  (I hate saying that, but it&#8217;s true)<br />
 If we built cars or toys, our income would be based on the wholesale or retail sales of those products.  And the net gain would be realized after the costs of building the car or toy are taken into account.<br />
In essence a fair and reasonable wage for writing, creating, directing, editing, acting, whatever it may be should be paid to build the product. This is the risk. The risk needs to be responsibly minimized. The sales should pay back the investment, plus a reasonable percentage for those who took the risk financing it.  The creative residuals also get paid at a percentage that takes into account the upfront payments for the &#8220;labor&#8221; portion of the job and based on the actual performance of the property,  and nothing more. If the product is a &#8220;hit&#8221; everyone wins. (and it becomes a bonus)  If not, the risk is minimized for all. Right now if a product fails the producing company is bearing the bulk of the risk, but a lot of folks just walked off with millions in their pocket prior to actual performance of the product.<br />
(I know this is over simplified but I hope it illustrates the point.)<br />
Now here is the stunner, If a car salesman makes a sale, and that sale is returned, does he get to keep the commission? Absolutely not. Now he&#8217;s in a position to have to make up for the loss, and get ahead.<br />
In our business we have created so many strange &#8220;performance liability&#8221; situations. No one has the actual truth. And lots of people are getting fees, and the performance factors are ignored. There are not a lot of other business folks who could survive if their business is run the way the Film and Television industry is currently running.  This plus the hyperbole we feed ourselves, is causing a huge problem in doing business not just with the world, but with ourselves.</p>
<p>  Please don&#8217;t get me wrong. I love this business. It is my passion to create. In my part of the world, I&#8217;ve been involved for 21 years, and loved most of it.  There are people on both sides of the strike I admire.<br />
I will make an appointment to watch a show written by certain writers, or a director, producer, or in the case of this interrupted season, a certain &#8220;consultant.&#8221;   </p>
<p> I know about the false statements of loss that are perpetrated, It is a really foul part of the industry and everyone knows it. That kind of thing also has to stop.  It is quite simply, despicable.</p>
<p>In my opinion, I would like us all to get serious about reforming our business models.  And keep the industry sound for the future generations of Film and Television Professionals and Creatives.</p>
<p> But most of all for the audience who pays for our products.   It is time for a little less greed, a better approach,  and a lot more wisdom.</p>
<p>With Respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena,&lt;br&gt; You and I agree on the manipulation factor. And I know the Nielsen ratings take a samples from real people. What I didn&#039;t realize is what you said about DVD and Film sales, you are right.  In my market when overnight&#039;s started they had three hundred meters sampling a population of 2 million, diaries aside, this left a huge margin for error. &lt;br&gt;  Reliable accounting and reporting is the problem. Without this, how can value be determined or returned?  It&#039;s not just in the writer&#039;s part of the business,  The value system is a bit creative in and of itself.&lt;br&gt; All of us in the industry take part in  building entertainment, or information products. They are for a consumer.  Without the consumer buying, watching, or downloading, our products,  they have no actual market value.  (I hate saying that, but it&#039;s true)&lt;br&gt; If we built cars or toys, our income would be based on the wholesale or retail sales of those products.  And the net gain would be realized after the costs of building the car or toy are taken into account.&lt;br&gt;In essence a fair and reasonable wage for writing, creating, directing, editing, acting, whatever it may be should be paid to build the product. This is the risk. The risk needs to be responsibly minimized. The sales should pay back the investment, plus a reasonable percentage for those who took the risk financing it.  The creative residuals also get paid at a percentage that takes into account the upfront payments for the &quot;labor&quot; portion of the job and based on the actual performance of the property,  and nothing more. If the product is a &quot;hit&quot; everyone wins. (and it becomes a bonus)  If not, the risk is minimized for all. Right now if a product fails the producing company is bearing the bulk of the risk, but a lot of folks just walked off with millions in their pocket prior to actual performance of the product.&lt;br&gt;(I know this is over simplified but I hope it illustrates the point.)&lt;br&gt;Now here is the stunner, If a car salesman makes a sale, and that sale is returned, does he get to keep the commission? Absolutely not. Now he&#039;s in a position to have to make up for the loss, and get ahead.&lt;br&gt;In our business we have created so many strange &quot;performance liability&quot; situations. No one has the actual truth. And lots of people are getting fees, and the performance factors are ignored. There are not a lot of other business folks who could survive if their business is run the way the Film and Television industry is currently running.  This plus the hyperbole we feed ourselves, is causing a huge problem in doing business not just with the world, but with ourselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  Please don&#039;t get me wrong. I love this business. It is my passion to create. In my part of the world, I&#039;ve been involved for 21 years, and loved most of it.  There are people on both sides of the strike I admire.&lt;br&gt;I will make an appointment to watch a show written by certain writers, or a director, producer, or in the case of this interrupted season, a certain &quot;consultant.&quot;   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I know about the false statements of loss that are perpetrated, It is a really foul part of the industry and everyone knows it. That kind of thing also has to stop.  It is quite simply, despicable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my opinion, I would like us all to get serious about reforming our business models.  And keep the industry sound for the future generations of Film and Television Professionals and Creatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; But most of all for the audience who pays for our products.   It is time for a little less greed, a better approach,  and a lot more wisdom.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With Respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena,<br /> You and I agree on the manipulation factor. And I know the Nielsen ratings take a samples from real people. What I didn&#39;t realize is what you said about DVD and Film sales, you are right.  In my market when overnight&#39;s started they had three hundred meters sampling a population of 2 million, diaries aside, this left a huge margin for error. <br />  Reliable accounting and reporting is the problem. Without this, how can value be determined or returned?  It&#39;s not just in the writer&#39;s part of the business,  The value system is a bit creative in and of itself.<br /> All of us in the industry take part in  building entertainment, or information products. They are for a consumer.  Without the consumer buying, watching, or downloading, our products,  they have no actual market value.  (I hate saying that, but it&#39;s true)<br /> If we built cars or toys, our income would be based on the wholesale or retail sales of those products.  And the net gain would be realized after the costs of building the car or toy are taken into account.<br />In essence a fair and reasonable wage for writing, creating, directing, editing, acting, whatever it may be should be paid to build the product. This is the risk. The risk needs to be responsibly minimized. The sales should pay back the investment, plus a reasonable percentage for those who took the risk financing it.  The creative residuals also get paid at a percentage that takes into account the upfront payments for the &#8220;labor&#8221; portion of the job and based on the actual performance of the property,  and nothing more. If the product is a &#8220;hit&#8221; everyone wins. (and it becomes a bonus)  If not, the risk is minimized for all. Right now if a product fails the producing company is bearing the bulk of the risk, but a lot of folks just walked off with millions in their pocket prior to actual performance of the product.<br />(I know this is over simplified but I hope it illustrates the point.)<br />Now here is the stunner, If a car salesman makes a sale, and that sale is returned, does he get to keep the commission? Absolutely not. Now he&#39;s in a position to have to make up for the loss, and get ahead.<br />In our business we have created so many strange &#8220;performance liability&#8221; situations. No one has the actual truth. And lots of people are getting fees, and the performance factors are ignored. There are not a lot of other business folks who could survive if their business is run the way the Film and Television industry is currently running.  This plus the hyperbole we feed ourselves, is causing a huge problem in doing business not just with the world, but with ourselves.</p>
<p>  Please don&#39;t get me wrong. I love this business. It is my passion to create. In my part of the world, I&#39;ve been involved for 21 years, and loved most of it.  There are people on both sides of the strike I admire.<br />I will make an appointment to watch a show written by certain writers, or a director, producer, or in the case of this interrupted season, a certain &#8220;consultant.&#8221;   </p>
<p> I know about the false statements of loss that are perpetrated, It is a really foul part of the industry and everyone knows it. That kind of thing also has to stop.  It is quite simply, despicable.</p>
<p>In my opinion, I would like us all to get serious about reforming our business models.  And keep the industry sound for the future generations of Film and Television Professionals and Creatives.</p>
<p> But most of all for the audience who pays for our products.   It is time for a little less greed, a better approach,  and a lot more wisdom.</p>
<p>With Respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy:

You write: &quot;In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess.&quot;

The reverse is actually true.  There are no reliable numbers for film.  Box Office numbers are self-reported by the studios and can be (and are in my opinion) manipulated for effect (remember The Omen grossing 6,666,666 dollars?!)

The Nielsen ratings are the only thing that comes close to reliable numbers because they are gathered directly from a sample of the public.  The only unreliability comes from the smallness of the sample (the error rate exceed what many shows, particularly on cable average in viewers) and the fact that it&#039;s extremely difficult to assemble a reliable sample of human beings (if only for the fact that many people don&#039;t want to be bothered).

That being said, the Nielsen ratings are immeasurably more reliable than DVD numbers where reporting is left entirely to the studios and the numbers they mention are essentially completely arbitrary and pulled out of a hat (again as far as I can tell).

The lack of reliable accounting is a big part of the problem between the studios and the unions as they lead to absurd situations like residuals being paid on projects that are still losing money (but then again the studios essentially claim every project loses money!!)

As long as a system can&#039;t be devised to account honestly for film and TV profits, the residual system will always be under attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy:</p>
<p>You write: &#8220;In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reverse is actually true.  There are no reliable numbers for film.  Box Office numbers are self-reported by the studios and can be (and are in my opinion) manipulated for effect (remember The Omen grossing 6,666,666 dollars?!)</p>
<p>The Nielsen ratings are the only thing that comes close to reliable numbers because they are gathered directly from a sample of the public.  The only unreliability comes from the smallness of the sample (the error rate exceed what many shows, particularly on cable average in viewers) and the fact that it&#8217;s extremely difficult to assemble a reliable sample of human beings (if only for the fact that many people don&#8217;t want to be bothered).</p>
<p>That being said, the Nielsen ratings are immeasurably more reliable than DVD numbers where reporting is left entirely to the studios and the numbers they mention are essentially completely arbitrary and pulled out of a hat (again as far as I can tell).</p>
<p>The lack of reliable accounting is a big part of the problem between the studios and the unions as they lead to absurd situations like residuals being paid on projects that are still losing money (but then again the studios essentially claim every project loses money!!)</p>
<p>As long as a system can&#8217;t be devised to account honestly for film and TV profits, the residual system will always be under attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy  Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy  Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With both sides not talking, the damage is being inflicted on a lot of hard working people.  The real problem is the actual &quot;value&quot; of a program being defined. Without actual numbers, not &quot;formulated numbers&quot; from percentages, no one actually knows what a show is worth. It is a perceived value from an educated guess.  In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess. Which means the salaries, and residuals are formulated on a factor that can&#039;t be totally defined.  How is a producer, writer, talent or anyone else in our industry really able to figure out what they are worth?  The best thing for everyone would be to find the answer on how to do business in absolute reality.   The current business model is antiquated. Both the writers and producers have their points and they are valid. But how can they resolve the issue, without actual &quot;price per contact&quot; numbers involved? 
Our industry has always had it&#039;s perceived sparkle, the &quot;glamour&quot;. Honestly speaking, this glamour is how the audience sees us. We need to concentrate on serving them, the audience, they are our consumer. Find out the real numbers of our audience.  The money can then be properly adjusted from there, without any of the parties taking too much flagrant risk. With all of us understanding how important cash flow is, I don&#039;t think there is anyone on either side who would not want to solve this problem fairly. They just need the real information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With both sides not talking, the damage is being inflicted on a lot of hard working people.  The real problem is the actual &#8220;value&#8221; of a program being defined. Without actual numbers, not &#8220;formulated numbers&#8221; from percentages, no one actually knows what a show is worth. It is a perceived value from an educated guess.  In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess. Which means the salaries, and residuals are formulated on a factor that can&#8217;t be totally defined.  How is a producer, writer, talent or anyone else in our industry really able to figure out what they are worth?  The best thing for everyone would be to find the answer on how to do business in absolute reality.   The current business model is antiquated. Both the writers and producers have their points and they are valid. But how can they resolve the issue, without actual &#8220;price per contact&#8221; numbers involved?<br />
Our industry has always had it&#8217;s perceived sparkle, the &#8220;glamour&#8221;. Honestly speaking, this glamour is how the audience sees us. We need to concentrate on serving them, the audience, they are our consumer. Find out the real numbers of our audience.  The money can then be properly adjusted from there, without any of the parties taking too much flagrant risk. With all of us understanding how important cash flow is, I don&#8217;t think there is anyone on either side who would not want to solve this problem fairly. They just need the real information.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You write: &quot;In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reverse is actually true.  There are no reliable numbers for film.  Box Office numbers are self-reported by the studios and can be (and are in my opinion) manipulated for effect (remember The Omen grossing 6,666,666 dollars?!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Nielsen ratings are the only thing that comes close to reliable numbers because they are gathered directly from a sample of the public.  The only unreliability comes from the smallness of the sample (the error rate exceed what many shows, particularly on cable average in viewers) and the fact that it&#039;s extremely difficult to assemble a reliable sample of human beings (if only for the fact that many people don&#039;t want to be bothered).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That being said, the Nielsen ratings are immeasurably more reliable than DVD numbers where reporting is left entirely to the studios and the numbers they mention are essentially completely arbitrary and pulled out of a hat (again as far as I can tell).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The lack of reliable accounting is a big part of the problem between the studios and the unions as they lead to absurd situations like residuals being paid on projects that are still losing money (but then again the studios essentially claim every project loses money!!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As long as a system can&#039;t be devised to account honestly for film and TV profits, the residual system will always be under attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy:</p>
<p>You write: &#8220;In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess.&#8221;</p>
<p>The reverse is actually true.  There are no reliable numbers for film.  Box Office numbers are self-reported by the studios and can be (and are in my opinion) manipulated for effect (remember The Omen grossing 6,666,666 dollars?!)</p>
<p>The Nielsen ratings are the only thing that comes close to reliable numbers because they are gathered directly from a sample of the public.  The only unreliability comes from the smallness of the sample (the error rate exceed what many shows, particularly on cable average in viewers) and the fact that it&#39;s extremely difficult to assemble a reliable sample of human beings (if only for the fact that many people don&#39;t want to be bothered).</p>
<p>That being said, the Nielsen ratings are immeasurably more reliable than DVD numbers where reporting is left entirely to the studios and the numbers they mention are essentially completely arbitrary and pulled out of a hat (again as far as I can tell).</p>
<p>The lack of reliable accounting is a big part of the problem between the studios and the unions as they lead to absurd situations like residuals being paid on projects that are still losing money (but then again the studios essentially claim every project loses money!!)</p>
<p>As long as a system can&#39;t be devised to account honestly for film and TV profits, the residual system will always be under attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy  Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy  Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With both sides not talking, the damage is being inflicted on a lot of hard working people.  The real problem is the actual &quot;value&quot; of a program being defined. Without actual numbers, not &quot;formulated numbers&quot; from percentages, no one actually knows what a show is worth. It is a perceived value from an educated guess.  In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess. Which means the salaries, and residuals are formulated on a factor that can&#039;t be totally defined.  How is a producer, writer, talent or anyone else in our industry really able to figure out what they are worth?  The best thing for everyone would be to find the answer on how to do business in absolute reality.   The current business model is antiquated. Both the writers and producers have their points and they are valid. But how can they resolve the issue, without actual &quot;price per contact&quot; numbers involved? &lt;br&gt;Our industry has always had it&#039;s perceived sparkle, the &quot;glamour&quot;. Honestly speaking, this glamour is how the audience sees us. We need to concentrate on serving them, the audience, they are our consumer. Find out the real numbers of our audience.  The money can then be properly adjusted from there, without any of the parties taking too much flagrant risk. With all of us understanding how important cash flow is, I don&#039;t think there is anyone on either side who would not want to solve this problem fairly. They just need the real information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With both sides not talking, the damage is being inflicted on a lot of hard working people.  The real problem is the actual &#8220;value&#8221; of a program being defined. Without actual numbers, not &#8220;formulated numbers&#8221; from percentages, no one actually knows what a show is worth. It is a perceived value from an educated guess.  In film, DVD, The Internet, Satellite, Cable, and DVR, actual numbers can be obtained. But broadcast is a bit of a guess. Which means the salaries, and residuals are formulated on a factor that can&#39;t be totally defined.  How is a producer, writer, talent or anyone else in our industry really able to figure out what they are worth?  The best thing for everyone would be to find the answer on how to do business in absolute reality.   The current business model is antiquated. Both the writers and producers have their points and they are valid. But how can they resolve the issue, without actual &#8220;price per contact&#8221; numbers involved? <br />Our industry has always had it&#39;s perceived sparkle, the &#8220;glamour&#8221;. Honestly speaking, this glamour is how the audience sees us. We need to concentrate on serving them, the audience, they are our consumer. Find out the real numbers of our audience.  The money can then be properly adjusted from there, without any of the parties taking too much flagrant risk. With all of us understanding how important cash flow is, I don&#39;t think there is anyone on either side who would not want to solve this problem fairly. They just need the real information.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a writer who works outside the movie/TV industry, I have to say the on-going strike seems extremely foolish for the WGA. Your article makes excellent points regarding the accelerated shift to reality TV. I&#039;m not a huge fan of unscripted television although I shamefully confess to being hooked on a few shows. But from the position of TV execs, reality programming seems pretty enticing, and the WGA needs to realize that in the long run they may be putting more of their union members out of work. If the strike continues, reality programming may become the norm, which means fewer writing jobs. 

As a TV viewer, I&#039;d hate to see that happen. A truly well-written show stays in my memory for years to come while reality TV feels like time wasted and is gone from my mind within a few days. As Dom points out, no one is going to buy DVDs of reality TV from years past. Who cares? But we&#039;re still purchasing DVDs of old favorites among scripted programs long after the shows have ended. Perhaps the network execs should think about that.

Frankly, I want to see the writers get more money. They make a better wage already than most of us who earn by writing, but I agree that residuals need to be more than the current miniscule amount. I simply would prefer WGA to consider what a lengthy strike means down the road. I&#039;m all for an increase in writers&#039; benefits--just not at the expense of scripted programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a writer who works outside the movie/TV industry, I have to say the on-going strike seems extremely foolish for the WGA. Your article makes excellent points regarding the accelerated shift to reality TV. I&#8217;m not a huge fan of unscripted television although I shamefully confess to being hooked on a few shows. But from the position of TV execs, reality programming seems pretty enticing, and the WGA needs to realize that in the long run they may be putting more of their union members out of work. If the strike continues, reality programming may become the norm, which means fewer writing jobs. </p>
<p>As a TV viewer, I&#8217;d hate to see that happen. A truly well-written show stays in my memory for years to come while reality TV feels like time wasted and is gone from my mind within a few days. As Dom points out, no one is going to buy DVDs of reality TV from years past. Who cares? But we&#8217;re still purchasing DVDs of old favorites among scripted programs long after the shows have ended. Perhaps the network execs should think about that.</p>
<p>Frankly, I want to see the writers get more money. They make a better wage already than most of us who earn by writing, but I agree that residuals need to be more than the current miniscule amount. I simply would prefer WGA to consider what a lengthy strike means down the road. I&#8217;m all for an increase in writers&#8217; benefits&#8211;just not at the expense of scripted programming.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t mind an aside, let me thank you guys for this great site.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t mind an aside, let me thank you guys for this great site.</p>
<p>Kudos!!</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a writer who works outside the movie/TV industry, I have to say the on-going strike seems extremely foolish for the WGA. Your article makes excellent points regarding the accelerated shift to reality TV. I&#039;m not a huge fan of unscripted television although I shamefully confess to being hooked on a few shows. But from the position of TV execs, reality programming seems pretty enticing, and the WGA needs to realize that in the long run they may be putting more of their union members out of work. If the strike continues, reality programming may become the norm, which means fewer writing jobs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a TV viewer, I&#039;d hate to see that happen. A truly well-written show stays in my memory for years to come while reality TV feels like time wasted and is gone from my mind within a few days. As Dom points out, no one is going to buy DVDs of reality TV from years past. Who cares? But we&#039;re still purchasing DVDs of old favorites among scripted programs long after the shows have ended. Perhaps the network execs should think about that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frankly, I want to see the writers get more money. They make a better wage already than most of us who earn by writing, but I agree that residuals need to be more than the current miniscule amount. I simply would prefer WGA to consider what a lengthy strike means down the road. I&#039;m all for an increase in writers&#039; benefits--just not at the expense of scripted programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a writer who works outside the movie/TV industry, I have to say the on-going strike seems extremely foolish for the WGA. Your article makes excellent points regarding the accelerated shift to reality TV. I&#39;m not a huge fan of unscripted television although I shamefully confess to being hooked on a few shows. But from the position of TV execs, reality programming seems pretty enticing, and the WGA needs to realize that in the long run they may be putting more of their union members out of work. If the strike continues, reality programming may become the norm, which means fewer writing jobs. </p>
<p>As a TV viewer, I&#39;d hate to see that happen. A truly well-written show stays in my memory for years to come while reality TV feels like time wasted and is gone from my mind within a few days. As Dom points out, no one is going to buy DVDs of reality TV from years past. Who cares? But we&#39;re still purchasing DVDs of old favorites among scripted programs long after the shows have ended. Perhaps the network execs should think about that.</p>
<p>Frankly, I want to see the writers get more money. They make a better wage already than most of us who earn by writing, but I agree that residuals need to be more than the current miniscule amount. I simply would prefer WGA to consider what a lengthy strike means down the road. I&#39;m all for an increase in writers&#39; benefits&#8211;just not at the expense of scripted programming.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I compared the ratings of Criminal Minds before the American Idol premiere, which is more telling than comparing the early season to the average.

It&#039;s possible Criminal Minds is going to keep all its viewers once Idol returns, but I doubt it.

NCIS also gets its best ratings before Idol returns.

I&#039;m doing this from memory, but I think I&#039;m right on that.

Shows age, and usually they don&#039;t age well (NCIS is a good, but rare, counter-example of that).

To give another example, the fact that ER is attracting fewer than half the audience it did at its height, has a lot to do with the fact most of their beloved performers have left and that there are only so many compelling medical stories to tell in that context.

CSI suffered from the &quot;brain drain&quot; of CSI Miami and CSI:NY.

I guess the point I am making is that quality counts for a lot and that the networks do their best to spin every rating drop to some societal trend they have no control over.

They do have control over quality, but this year have failed to launch any real hit (I&#039;m still holding out hope for Life and WMC if they are nurtured properly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I compared the ratings of Criminal Minds before the American Idol premiere, which is more telling than comparing the early season to the average.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible Criminal Minds is going to keep all its viewers once Idol returns, but I doubt it.</p>
<p>NCIS also gets its best ratings before Idol returns.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing this from memory, but I think I&#8217;m right on that.</p>
<p>Shows age, and usually they don&#8217;t age well (NCIS is a good, but rare, counter-example of that).</p>
<p>To give another example, the fact that ER is attracting fewer than half the audience it did at its height, has a lot to do with the fact most of their beloved performers have left and that there are only so many compelling medical stories to tell in that context.</p>
<p>CSI suffered from the &#8220;brain drain&#8221; of CSI Miami and CSI:NY.</p>
<p>I guess the point I am making is that quality counts for a lot and that the networks do their best to spin every rating drop to some societal trend they have no control over.</p>
<p>They do have control over quality, but this year have failed to launch any real hit (I&#8217;m still holding out hope for Life and WMC if they are nurtured properly).</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t mind an aside, let me thank you guys for this great site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kudos!!</description>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I compared the ratings of Criminal Minds before the American Idol premiere, which is more telling than comparing the early season to the average.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s possible Criminal Minds is going to keep all its viewers once Idol returns, but I doubt it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;NCIS also gets its best ratings before Idol returns.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m doing this from memory, but I think I&#039;m right on that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shows age, and usually they don&#039;t age well (NCIS is a good, but rare, counter-example of that).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To give another example, the fact that ER is attracting fewer than half the audience it did at its height, has a lot to do with the fact most of their beloved performers have left and that there are only so many compelling medical stories to tell in that context.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CSI suffered from the &quot;brain drain&quot; of CSI Miami and CSI:NY.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess the point I am making is that quality counts for a lot and that the networks do their best to spin every rating drop to some societal trend they have no control over.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They do have control over quality, but this year have failed to launch any real hit (I&#039;m still holding out hope for Life and WMC if they are nurtured properly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I compared the ratings of Criminal Minds before the American Idol premiere, which is more telling than comparing the early season to the average.</p>
<p>It&#39;s possible Criminal Minds is going to keep all its viewers once Idol returns, but I doubt it.</p>
<p>NCIS also gets its best ratings before Idol returns.</p>
<p>I&#39;m doing this from memory, but I think I&#39;m right on that.</p>
<p>Shows age, and usually they don&#39;t age well (NCIS is a good, but rare, counter-example of that).</p>
<p>To give another example, the fact that ER is attracting fewer than half the audience it did at its height, has a lot to do with the fact most of their beloved performers have left and that there are only so many compelling medical stories to tell in that context.</p>
<p>CSI suffered from the &#8220;brain drain&#8221; of CSI Miami and CSI:NY.</p>
<p>I guess the point I am making is that quality counts for a lot and that the networks do their best to spin every rating drop to some societal trend they have no control over.</p>
<p>They do have control over quality, but this year have failed to launch any real hit (I&#39;m still holding out hope for Life and WMC if they are nurtured properly).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena, where are you getting your data?  Your math isn&#039;t working for me.  Criminal Minds is down, but when I do comprable year over year comparisons (new episodes vs new episodes) the decreases seem to be less than 2 million viewers.

I can find weeks where CSI is down more than 4 million, and I can find stuff like that for just about any show, from any network.  While I wouldn&#039;t attribute it (at least not completely) to the causes you suggest, it appears to be a trend and not a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena, where are you getting your data?  Your math isn&#8217;t working for me.  Criminal Minds is down, but when I do comprable year over year comparisons (new episodes vs new episodes) the decreases seem to be less than 2 million viewers.</p>
<p>I can find weeks where CSI is down more than 4 million, and I can find stuff like that for just about any show, from any network.  While I wouldn&#8217;t attribute it (at least not completely) to the causes you suggest, it appears to be a trend and not a good one.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rena, where are you getting your data?  Your math isn&#039;t working for me.  Criminal Minds is down, but when I do comprable year over year comparisons (new episodes vs new episodes) the decreases seem to be less than 2 million viewers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can find weeks where CSI is down more than 4 million, and I can find stuff like that for just about any show, from any network.  While I wouldn&#039;t attribute it (at least not completely) to the causes you suggest, it appears to be a trend and not a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rena, where are you getting your data?  Your math isn&#39;t working for me.  Criminal Minds is down, but when I do comprable year over year comparisons (new episodes vs new episodes) the decreases seem to be less than 2 million viewers.</p>
<p>I can find weeks where CSI is down more than 4 million, and I can find stuff like that for just about any show, from any network.  While I wouldn&#39;t attribute it (at least not completely) to the causes you suggest, it appears to be a trend and not a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a thought provoking article or what?

One more point:  the networks are always trying to pin their declining fortunes on changing tastes of the public and competition.

While competition does matter, one thing the networks (and the WGA for that matter) never talk about is quality.

This year&#039;s declining ratings for the networks can be pinned 100% on bad quality.  They hired bad producers to make bad shows.  They got bad ratings.  Simple as that.

I&#039;ll give you two examples: 

When you hire a David Eick and let him do to Bionic woman what he did to Battlestar Galactica, a low-rated show even for cable that audiences have sampled and soundly rejected, the low ratings were a given.

Criminal Minds has lost 4-6 million viewers this year.  It was caused by Mandy Patinkin leaving and the quality of the show collapsing at the same time.  It wasn&#039;t caused by the internet or by competition from cable.  It was caused by shoddy writing and directing (ie. producing) and by the bad luck of losing a great actor to still unknown reasons.

In other words, declines are not inevitable, and if they were, the scale of those declines are a function of the quality of the networks&#039; offerings.

When you don&#039;t program Saturday Night, you&#039;re not giving yourself the chance to find that diamond in the rough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a thought provoking article or what?</p>
<p>One more point:  the networks are always trying to pin their declining fortunes on changing tastes of the public and competition.</p>
<p>While competition does matter, one thing the networks (and the WGA for that matter) never talk about is quality.</p>
<p>This year&#8217;s declining ratings for the networks can be pinned 100% on bad quality.  They hired bad producers to make bad shows.  They got bad ratings.  Simple as that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you two examples: </p>
<p>When you hire a David Eick and let him do to Bionic woman what he did to Battlestar Galactica, a low-rated show even for cable that audiences have sampled and soundly rejected, the low ratings were a given.</p>
<p>Criminal Minds has lost 4-6 million viewers this year.  It was caused by Mandy Patinkin leaving and the quality of the show collapsing at the same time.  It wasn&#8217;t caused by the internet or by competition from cable.  It was caused by shoddy writing and directing (ie. producing) and by the bad luck of losing a great actor to still unknown reasons.</p>
<p>In other words, declines are not inevitable, and if they were, the scale of those declines are a function of the quality of the networks&#8217; offerings.</p>
<p>When you don&#8217;t program Saturday Night, you&#8217;re not giving yourself the chance to find that diamond in the rough.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fenny:

Remember that writers do get a fee for their scripts.  It&#039;s not like they work for free and have to wait for royalty checks to make money.

Now I really like the idea that creators should participate in the success of their creation.  I think it&#039;s a good thing and a fair thing.

But they shouldn&#039;t act like it&#039;s a common practice.

It&#039;s very uncommon for people to be paid past their salary.  Just like it&#039;s uncommon for people to be fed on the job the way movie production people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fenny:</p>
<p>Remember that writers do get a fee for their scripts.  It&#8217;s not like they work for free and have to wait for royalty checks to make money.</p>
<p>Now I really like the idea that creators should participate in the success of their creation.  I think it&#8217;s a good thing and a fair thing.</p>
<p>But they shouldn&#8217;t act like it&#8217;s a common practice.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very uncommon for people to be paid past their salary.  Just like it&#8217;s uncommon for people to be fed on the job the way movie production people are.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more point.

People DO need to get paid, but writers are already getting paid extremely well.  For every working writer, there are dozens who&#039;d take their place for 1990 wages.

They want more and they have every right to do so.  They&#039;ve also been misled by the studios about DVD residuals.  Were they striking for that, I&#039;d understand a lot more.

But the long and short of it is they are well-off people who want more, not &quot;little guys&quot; and they should stop the pretense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point.</p>
<p>People DO need to get paid, but writers are already getting paid extremely well.  For every working writer, there are dozens who&#8217;d take their place for 1990 wages.</p>
<p>They want more and they have every right to do so.  They&#8217;ve also been misled by the studios about DVD residuals.  Were they striking for that, I&#8217;d understand a lot more.</p>
<p>But the long and short of it is they are well-off people who want more, not &#8220;little guys&#8221; and they should stop the pretense.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/13/is-the-wga-just-another-lousy-union/2122#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you touched up on an interesting point in your article.

Hopefully you won&#039;t mind if I try to dig deeper.

You said that advertisers may end up paying more for people watching live in the future.  Maybe double.

It made me think of how the networks have supposedly gotten more and more money for the same viewers, even though there is no reason for advertisers to pay more.

Now, I realize that the relationship between Madison Avenue ad buyers and the networks is symbiotic and that ad buyers may not be trying really hard to save money for their clients, but two thoughts come to mind:

1)  Is this even true?  After all, the only source we have for ad rates are the networks, and we all know how unreliable networks and studios are about how well they are really doing.  This is actually one of the problems making the strike worse.  The WGA has chosen to believe all the rosy PR releases of the studios and wants its &quot;fair share&quot; based on that, not on reality.

2)  If this is true, is it a bubble?  How long will ad buyers overpay for ad time.  Already the networks have been forced to hand out cash because they ran out of make goods (and who knows in reality how many ads we see are make goods anyway?)

In a world where network ratings have declined, where the networks have de-programmed Saturdays and are talking openly of de-programming 8-9 (sorry programming with reality shows!) how can the WGA think that ever increasing salaries can work?

The trend is clearly towards lower-cost programming.

It would behoove everyone involved to realize lower-cost programming was all programming until recently.  Dramatic TV shows have seen huge increases in their budgets.  Recently I have read pilots cost up to $10 million now (for one hour!!) when you can easily produce a good TV movie for $2 million.

But nobody wants to talk about that.

The WGA is locked into ever increasing demands and the studios are too chicken to lay their real cards on the table.

Even if the strike were to end, the underlying problems of the film and TV industry will remain unaddressed.

That&#039;s the situation Detroit Auto Manufacturers were in until they went bankrupt and everyone lost big.

There is no sign anyone at the bargaining table is willing to even bring this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you touched up on an interesting point in your article.</p>
<p>Hopefully you won&#8217;t mind if I try to dig deeper.</p>
<p>You said that advertisers may end up paying more for people watching live in the future.  Maybe double.</p>
<p>It made me think of how the networks have supposedly gotten more and more money for the same viewers, even though there is no reason for advertisers to pay more.</p>
<p>Now, I realize that the relationship between Madison Avenue ad buyers and the networks is symbiotic and that ad buyers may not be trying really hard to save money for their clients, but two thoughts come to mind:</p>
<p>1)  Is this even true?  After all, the only source we have for ad rates are the networks, and we all know how unreliable networks and studios are about how well they are really doing.  This is actually one of the problems making the strike worse.  The WGA has chosen to believe all the rosy PR releases of the studios and wants its &#8220;fair share&#8221; based on that, not on reality.</p>
<p>2)  If this is true, is it a bubble?  How long will ad buyers overpay for ad time.  Already the networks have been forced to hand out cash because they ran out of make goods (and who knows in reality how many ads we see are make goods anyway?)</p>
<p>In a world where network ratings have declined, where the networks have de-programmed Saturdays and are talking openly of de-programming 8-9 (sorry programming with reality shows!) how can the WGA think that ever increasing salaries can work?</p>
<p>The trend is clearly towards lower-cost programming.</p>
<p>It would behoove everyone involved to realize lower-cost programming was all programming until recently.  Dramatic TV shows have seen huge increases in their budgets.  Recently I have read pilots cost up to $10 million now (for one hour!!) when you can easily produce a good TV movie for $2 million.</p>
<p>But nobody wants to talk about that.</p>
<p>The WGA is locked into ever increasing demands and the studios are too chicken to lay their real cards on the table.</p>
<p>Even if the strike were to end, the underlying problems of the film and TV industry will remain unaddressed.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the situation Detroit Auto Manufacturers were in until they went bankrupt and everyone lost big.</p>
<p>There is no sign anyone at the bargaining table is willing to even bring this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a thought provoking article or what?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One more point:  the networks are always trying to pin their declining fortunes on changing tastes of the public and competition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While competition does matter, one thing the networks (and the WGA for that matter) never talk about is quality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This year&#039;s declining ratings for the networks can be pinned 100% on bad quality.  They hired bad producers to make bad shows.  They got bad ratings.  Simple as that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll give you two examples: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you hire a David Eick and let him do to Bionic woman what he did to Battlestar Galactica, a low-rated show even for cable that audiences have sampled and soundly rejected, the low ratings were a given.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Criminal Minds has lost 4-6 million viewers this year.  It was caused by Mandy Patinkin leaving and the quality of the show collapsing at the same time.  It wasn&#039;t caused by the internet or by competition from cable.  It was caused by shoddy writing and directing (ie. producing) and by the bad luck of losing a great actor to still unknown reasons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words, declines are not inevitable, and if they were, the scale of those declines are a function of the quality of the networks&#039; offerings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you don&#039;t program Saturday Night, you&#039;re not giving yourself the chance to find that diamond in the rough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a thought provoking article or what?</p>
<p>One more point:  the networks are always trying to pin their declining fortunes on changing tastes of the public and competition.</p>
<p>While competition does matter, one thing the networks (and the WGA for that matter) never talk about is quality.</p>
<p>This year&#39;s declining ratings for the networks can be pinned 100% on bad quality.  They hired bad producers to make bad shows.  They got bad ratings.  Simple as that.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll give you two examples: </p>
<p>When you hire a David Eick and let him do to Bionic woman what he did to Battlestar Galactica, a low-rated show even for cable that audiences have sampled and soundly rejected, the low ratings were a given.</p>
<p>Criminal Minds has lost 4-6 million viewers this year.  It was caused by Mandy Patinkin leaving and the quality of the show collapsing at the same time.  It wasn&#39;t caused by the internet or by competition from cable.  It was caused by shoddy writing and directing (ie. producing) and by the bad luck of losing a great actor to still unknown reasons.</p>
<p>In other words, declines are not inevitable, and if they were, the scale of those declines are a function of the quality of the networks&#39; offerings.</p>
<p>When you don&#39;t program Saturday Night, you&#39;re not giving yourself the chance to find that diamond in the rough.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fenny:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember that writers do get a fee for their scripts.  It&#039;s not like they work for free and have to wait for royalty checks to make money.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I really like the idea that creators should participate in the success of their creation.  I think it&#039;s a good thing and a fair thing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But they shouldn&#039;t act like it&#039;s a common practice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s very uncommon for people to be paid past their salary.  Just like it&#039;s uncommon for people to be fed on the job the way movie production people are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fenny:</p>
<p>Remember that writers do get a fee for their scripts.  It&#39;s not like they work for free and have to wait for royalty checks to make money.</p>
<p>Now I really like the idea that creators should participate in the success of their creation.  I think it&#39;s a good thing and a fair thing.</p>
<p>But they shouldn&#39;t act like it&#39;s a common practice.</p>
<p>It&#39;s very uncommon for people to be paid past their salary.  Just like it&#39;s uncommon for people to be fed on the job the way movie production people are.</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Moretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Moretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People DO need to get paid, but writers are already getting paid extremely well.  For every working writer, there are dozens who&#039;d take their place for 1990 wages.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They want more and they have every right to do so.  They&#039;ve also been misled by the studios about DVD residuals.  Were they striking for that, I&#039;d understand a lot more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the long and short of it is they are well-off people who want more, not &quot;little guys&quot; and they should stop the pretense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point.</p>
<p>People DO need to get paid, but writers are already getting paid extremely well.  For every working writer, there are dozens who&#39;d take their place for 1990 wages.</p>
<p>They want more and they have every right to do so.  They&#39;ve also been misled by the studios about DVD residuals.  Were they striking for that, I&#39;d understand a lot more.</p>
<p>But the long and short of it is they are well-off people who want more, not &#8220;little guys&#8221; and they should stop the pretense.</p>
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