Posted on 31 December 2008 by Robert Seidman

Update 2: As predicted, just a game of chicken and TWC and Viacom have settled their dispute.
Update 1: commenter “Mikey” provided us with some data in the comments and I’ve cleaned up the formatting and posted here. It is an analysis of the subscriber monthly cost per cable channel per tenth of a ratings point. Based on this data, Mikey gives the moral high ground in the dispute to Viacom (though he isn’t advocating all the spin Viacom has surrounded its PR campaign with). There were some fairly big “wow” moments for me when I saw the cost of high performing networks ratings-wise like Nick and USA vs. say, TNT).
[original post from 12/30/08 below]
Doubtful.
I’d probably ignore this and it would have merely been a reply to a comment left about Nikki Finke’s post on the TWC vs. Viacom battle. But the comment was posted in the broadcast weekly top twenty, and replying there seemed awkward since it doesn’t have a freaking thing to do with cable channels.
Viacom is asking Time Warner to pony up an additional $.25 per month, per subscriber. Time Warner’s response so far is this: we’ll pass on you and your cable channels. So Viacom is working the press, spinning tales about how 20% of TV viewing time is spent watching their channels so the increase is very reasonable.
While I understand Ms. Finke’s dismay at potentially losing SpongeBob, my gut tells me that Viacom and TWC are different sides of exactly the same greedy coin. There’s so much spin in the blurb she posted from TWC, that sorting through how misleading it is isn’t worth the effort since conflict will likely be avoided.
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Posted on 31 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for December 30, 2008
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,085,000 viewers
CNN – 616,000 viewers
MSNBC –411,000 viewers
CNBC – 252,000 viewers
HLN – 342,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 1,825,000 viewers
CNN—855,000 viewers
MSNBC –730,000 viewers
CNBC – 240,000 viewers
HLN – 861,000 viewers
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Posted on 31 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
Frequent commenter “Mikey” provided us with some data that allows you to derive the relative price/value of cable channels based on what the cable networks charge per subscriber compared to the ratings. Here were Mikey’s disclaimers:
The HH Rtg for each network is a total day (6a-2a) rating from Jan 1 2008 to mid-August.
I simply divided the monthly subscriber fees, which are from a credible source that I can’t name, by the total day rating to come up with a “cost per tenth of a rating point”
In fairness to NFL Network and ESPN, this chart was produced in August so no NFL games are included. The NFL season will obviously help their ratings, although I would bet that in a year-end update of this chart they would still be the two least efficient channels on television.
The broadcast networks are not included because their sub fee is generally zero.
| Network |
HH RTG |
Cost/Sub |
Cost/.1 RTG |
| NFLN |
0.11 |
0.83 |
0.74 |
| ESPN |
0.69 |
3.65 |
0.53 |
| ESPCL |
0.06 |
0.17 |
0.30 |
| GOLF |
0.11 |
0.25 |
0.23 |
| VS |
0.12 |
0.27 |
0.23 |
| FUSE |
0.04 |
0.08 |
0.20 |
| ESPN2 |
0.27 |
0.52 |
0.19 |
| ENN |
0.09 |
0.16 |
0.17 |
| VH1C |
0.04 |
0.06 |
0.14 |
| FNLVG |
0.04 |
0.05 |
0.13 |
| CNBC |
0.23 |
0.27 |
0.12 |
| BBCA |
0.10 |
0.11 |
0.11 |
| MUN2 |
0.09 |
0.10 |
0.11 |
| SPD |
0.19 |
0.19 |
0.10 |
| CNN |
0.52 |
0.47 |
0.09 |
| STYL |
0.16 |
0.14 |
0.09 |
| TNT |
1.09 |
0.93 |
0.09 |
| DHLT |
0.17 |
0.14 |
0.08 |
| NGC |
0.27 |
0.20 |
0.08 |
| SOAP |
0.20 |
0.14 |
0.07 |
| ENT |
0.31 |
0.22 |
0.07 |
| G4 |
0.12 |
0.08 |
0.07 |
| FX |
0.59 |
0.37 |
0.06 |
| MTV |
0.51 |
0.32 |
0.06 |
| TBSC |
0.80 |
0.46 |
0.06 |
| THEN |
0.16 |
0.09 |
0.06 |
| BRVO |
0.31 |
0.17 |
0.05 |
| WE |
0.19 |
0.10 |
0.05 |
| MIL |
0.13 |
0.07 |
0.05 |
| BIO |
0.19 |
0.10 |
0.05 |
| FOXNC |
0.81 |
0.42 |
0.05 |
| TDSNY |
0.24 |
0.12 |
0.05 |
| DSCI |
0.14 |
0.07 |
0.05 |
| DIY |
0.10 |
0.05 |
0.05 |
| TWC |
0.23 |
0.11 |
0.05 |
| AMC |
0.50 |
0.23 |
0.05 |
| USA |
1.16 |
0.52 |
0.05 |
| DISC |
0.59 |
0.26 |
0.04 |
| CMT |
0.18 |
0.08 |
0.04 |
| GSN |
0.25 |
0.11 |
0.04 |
| TLC |
0.41 |
0.17 |
0.04 |
| MSNBC |
0.36 |
0.15 |
0.04 |
| VH1 |
0.35 |
0.14 |
0.04 |
| WGNA |
0.30 |
0.12 |
0.04 |
| SCIFI |
0.52 |
0.20 |
0.04 |
| AEN |
0.67 |
0.25 |
0.04 |
| BET |
0.41 |
0.15 |
0.04 |
| HI |
0.16 |
0.06 |
0.04 |
| ID |
0.22 |
0.08 |
0.04 |
| SPIKE |
0.57 |
0.20 |
0.04 |
| FAM |
0.61 |
0.21 |
0.03 |
| HIST |
0.61 |
0.21 |
0.03 |
| OXYG |
0.26 |
0.09 |
0.03 |
| OUTD |
0.12 |
0.04 |
0.03 |
| TRAV |
0.19 |
0.06 |
0.03 |
| LIF |
0.78 |
0.25 |
0.03 |
| NKTNS |
0.20 |
0.06 |
0.03 |
| NICK\NAN |
1.64 |
0.45 |
0.03 |
| MTV2 |
0.16 |
0.04 |
0.03 |
| APL |
0.28 |
0.07 |
0.03 |
| HGTV |
0.57 |
0.14 |
0.02 |
| CMDY |
0.52 |
0.12 |
0.02 |
| GAC |
0.09 |
0.02 |
0.02 |
| TV1 |
0.19 |
0.04 |
0.02 |
| TVL |
0.52 |
0.10 |
0.02 |
| TOON\ADSM |
0.90 |
0.16 |
0.02 |
| TVGN |
0.12 |
0.02 |
0.02 |
| LMN |
0.55 |
0.09 |
0.02 |
| GALA |
0.13 |
0.02 |
0.01 |
| FOOD |
0.50 |
0.07 |
0.01 |
| TRU |
0.65 |
0.09 |
0.01 |
| RFD |
0.08 |
0.01 |
0.01 |
| HALL |
0.71 |
0.06 |
0.01 |
Posted on 31 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
| Scoreboard |
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| Total Viewers (million) |
11.46 |
8.01 |
5.53 |
4.69 |
4.34 |
1.08 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 |
2.1/6 |
2.3/6 |
1.9/5 |
1.5/4 |
1.7/5 |
0.4/1 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-34 |
1.0/3 |
1.7/6 |
1.6/5 |
1.2/4 |
1.7/5 |
0.4/1 |
An NCIS repeat and the Kennedy Center Honors Special led CBS to a win among viewers. Meanwhile, NBC won both age demographics with repeats of Law & Order and Law & Order: SVU.
Light posting until 1/5… Happy New Year!
Full details:
| Time |
Net |
Show |
Viewers (Millons) |
18-49 Rating/Share |
18-34 Rating/Share |
| 8:00 |
CBS |
NCIS (R) |
13.47 |
2.6/8 |
1.4/5 |
| |
ABC |
Happy New Year Charlie Brown (R) |
6.48 |
2.0/6 |
1.6/6 |
| |
FOX |
House(R) |
5.99 |
2.1/6 |
1.8/6 |
| |
NBC |
Law & Order (R) |
5.53 |
1.6/5 |
1.1/4 |
| |
UNI |
Cuidado con el Angel |
4.73 |
1.8/5 |
1.9/6 |
| |
CW |
90210 (R) |
1.18 |
0.5/1 |
0.5/2 |
| |
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| 8:30 |
ABC |
Rudolph’s Shiny New Year (R) |
5.15 |
1.7/5 |
1.3/4 |
| |
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| 9:00 |
CBS |
Kennedy Center Honors Special |
10.15 |
1.7/5 |
0.8/3 |
| |
NBC |
Law & Order: SVU (R) |
9.66 |
2.6/7 |
2.1/6 |
| |
FOX |
Fringe (R) |
5.08 |
1.6/4 |
1.3/4 |
| |
UNI |
Fuego en la Sangre |
5.01 |
2.0/5 |
2.1/7 |
| |
CW |
Privileged (R) |
0.97 |
0.3/1 |
0.3/1 |
| |
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| 9:30 |
ABC |
According to Jim |
3.77 |
1.2/3 |
1.0/3 |
| |
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| 10:00 |
CBS |
Kennedy Center Honors Special |
10.75 |
1.9/5 |
0.8/3 |
| |
NBC |
Law & Order: SVU (R) |
8.85 |
2.7/7 |
2.0/6 |
| |
ABC |
Eli Stone |
3.81 |
1.2/3 |
1.0/3 |
| |
UNI |
Aqui y Ahora |
3.29 |
1.2/3 |
1.1/3 |
Shows are sorted by viewers in each time slot.
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Posted on 30 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
| Rank |
Shows |
R=Repeat S=Special P=Premiere |
Net |
# Viewers (LIVE+SD) (000) |
HH RATING (LIVE+SD) |
HH SHARE (LIVE+SD) |
| 1 |
NBC SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL |
|
NBC |
14,847 |
9.0 |
15 |
| 2 |
SUNDAY NIGHT NFL PRE-KICK |
|
NBC |
10,137 |
6.1 |
10 |
| 3 |
FOOTBALL NT AMERICA PT 3 |
|
NBC |
7,517 |
4.6 |
8 |
| 4 |
LAW AND ORDER:SVU |
R |
NBC |
7,052 |
4.7 |
8 |
| 5 |
DEAL OR NO DEAL 12/25(S) |
S |
NBC |
6,524 |
3.8 |
8 |
| 6 |
LAW AND ORDER 12/23(S) |
SR |
NBC |
6,175 |
4.1 |
7 |
| 7 |
TODAY LOOKS BACK:2008(S) |
S |
NBC |
6,123 |
4.0 |
6 |
| 8 |
LAW AND ORDER:SVU 12/23(S) |
SR |
NBC |
6,034 |
4.0 |
7 |
| 9 |
NBC MOVIE OF WEEK-WE12/24(S) |
SR |
NBC |
5,292 |
3.0 |
7 |
| 10 |
DATELINE 12/26(S) |
SR |
NBC |
5,234 |
3.4 |
6 |
| 11 |
MOMMA’S BOYS |
P |
NBC |
5,012 |
3.3 |
5 |
| 12 |
FOOTBALL NT AMERICA PT 2 |
|
NBC |
4,810 |
2.9 |
5 |
| 13 |
LAW & ORDER:SVU-SAT |
R |
NBC |
4,183 |
2.7 |
5 |
| 14 |
OFFICE 12/25-A(S) |
SR |
NBC |
3,384 |
2.1 |
4 |
| 15 |
OFFICE 12/25-B(S) |
SR |
NBC |
2,800 |
1.8 |
4 |
| 16 |
BEIJING-OPN CEREM-TV EVNT(S) |
S |
NBC |
2,745 |
1.8 |
3 |
| 17 |
TOP CHEF 12/26(S) |
S |
NBC |
2,590 |
1.6 |
3 |
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2008 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
Posted on 30 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
| Rank |
Shows |
R=Repeat S=Special P=Premiere |
Net |
# Viewers (LIVE+SD) (000) |
HH RATING (LIVE+SD) |
HH SHARE (LIVE+SD) |
| 1 |
OT, THE |
|
FOX |
7,625 |
4.8 |
8 |
| 2 |
HOUSE |
R |
FOX |
6,739 |
4.3 |
7 |
| 3 |
HOUSE SP-12/22 8P(S) |
SR |
FOX |
6,248 |
3.9 |
6 |
| 4 |
AMW: AMERICA FIGHTS BACK |
|
FOX |
5,932 |
3.5 |
6 |
| 5 |
FAMILY GUY |
R |
FOX |
5,689 |
3.4 |
5 |
| 6 |
SMARTER THAN 5TH SP-12/26(S) |
SR |
FOX |
5,678 |
3.6 |
7 |
| 7 |
COPS 2 |
R |
FOX |
5,608 |
3.3 |
6 |
| 8 |
SIMPSONS |
R |
FOX |
5,461 |
3.2 |
5 |
| 9 |
DONT FORGET LYR SP-12/26(S) |
SR |
FOX |
5,378 |
3.3 |
6 |
| 10 |
COPS |
R |
FOX |
4,983 |
2.9 |
6 |
| 11 |
PRISON BREAK |
|
FOX |
4,976 |
3.2 |
5 |
| 12 |
AMERICAN DAD |
R |
FOX |
4,767 |
3.0 |
5 |
| 13 |
KING OF THE HILL |
R |
FOX |
4,434 |
2.6 |
4 |
| 14 |
BONES SP-XMAS EVE 8P(S) |
SR |
FOX |
4,354 |
2.7 |
6 |
| 15 |
FRINGE |
R |
FOX |
4,216 |
2.7 |
5 |
| 16 |
BONES SP-XMAS EVE 9P(S) |
SR |
FOX |
3,823 |
2.4 |
5 |
| 17 |
KITCHEN NGHTMR SP-XMAS 9P(S) |
SR |
FOX |
2,970 |
1.8 |
4 |
| 18 |
KITCHEN NGHTMR SP-XMAS 8P(S) |
SR |
FOX |
2,387 |
1.4 |
3 |
| 19 |
HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS(S) |
S |
CBS |
6,428 |
4.2 |
7 |
| 20 |
WITHOUT A TRACE 8PM SPCL(S) |
S |
CBS |
5,877 |
3.6 |
8 |
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2008 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
Posted on 30 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
| Rank |
Shows |
R=Repeat S=Special P=Premiere |
Net |
# Viewers (LIVE+SD) (000) |
HH RATING (LIVE+SD) |
HH SHARE (LIVE+SD) |
| 1 |
FLIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS(S) |
S |
CW |
1,844 |
1.0 |
2 |
| 2 |
SUPERNATURAL-XMAS(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,600 |
1.0 |
2 |
| 3 |
STORY OF SANTA CLAUS-XMEV(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,573 |
0.7 |
2 |
| 4 |
CW SUNDAY MOVIE, THE |
|
CW |
1,421 |
0.9 |
1 |
| 5 |
EV HATES CHRIS-12/26(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,398 |
0.9 |
2 |
| 6 |
SMALLVILLE-XMAS(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,329 |
0.8 |
2 |
| 7 |
GOSSIP GIRL-MON |
R |
CW |
1,258 |
0.9 |
1 |
| 8 |
GAME, THE-12/26(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,256 |
0.8 |
1 |
| 9 |
GAME, THE2-12/26(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,170 |
0.8 |
1 |
| 10 |
EV HATES CHRIS2-12/26(S) |
SR |
CW |
1,156 |
0.8 |
1 |
| 11 |
PRIVILEGED |
R |
CW |
1,110 |
0.8 |
1 |
| 12 |
90210 |
R |
CW |
1,056 |
0.8 |
1 |
| 13 |
JERICHO |
|
CW |
953 |
0.6 |
1 |
| 14 |
ONE TREE HILL-MON |
R |
CW |
834 |
0.7 |
1 |
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2008 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
Posted on 30 December 2008 by Robert Seidman
| Rank |
Shows |
R=Repeat S=Special P=Premiere |
Net |
# Viewers (LIVE+SD) (000) |
HH RATING (LIVE+SD) |
HH SHARE (LIVE+SD) |
| 1 |
60 MINUTES |
|
CBS |
14,110 |
8.7 |
15 |
| 2 |
TWO AND A HALF MEN |
R |
CBS |
11,817 |
7.4 |
12 |
| 3 |
MENTALIST, THE-10PM SPCL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
10,676 |
6.6 |
11 |
| 4 |
NCIS 9P-SPECIAL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
10,598 |
6.6 |
11 |
| 5 |
MILLION DOLLAR PASSWORD |
|
CBS |
9,836 |
6.3 |
10 |
| 6 |
COLD CASE |
|
CBS |
9,693 |
6.1 |
10 |
| 7 |
CSI: MIAMI |
R |
CBS |
8,541 |
5.8 |
10 |
| 8 |
CSI – SPECIAL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
8,029 |
5.0 |
10 |
| 9 |
GHOST WHISPERER-SPECIAL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
7,795 |
5.0 |
9 |
| 10 |
ELEVENTH HOUR – SPECIAL(S) |
S |
CBS |
7,370 |
4.7 |
10 |
| 11 |
BIG BANG THEORY, THE |
R |
CBS |
7,244 |
4.7 |
8 |
| 12 |
CSI: NY – SPCL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
6,918 |
4.6 |
10 |
| 13 |
WORST WEEK |
R |
CBS |
6,859 |
4.5 |
7 |
| 14 |
HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER |
R |
CBS |
6,840 |
4.4 |
7 |
| 15 |
NUMB3RS-SPECIAL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
6,690 |
4.2 |
8 |
| 16 |
GHOST WHISPERER 9PM-SP(S) |
SR |
CBS |
6,509 |
4.2 |
8 |
| 17 |
CRIMINAL MINDS – SPCL(S) |
SR |
CBS |
6,461 |
4.1 |
9 |
| 18 |
UNIT, THE |
|
CBS |
6,448 |
4.2 |
8 |
| 19 |
HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS(S) |
S |
CBS |
6,428 |
4.2 |
7 |
| 20 |
WITHOUT A TRACE 8PM SPCL(S) |
S |
CBS |
5,877 |
3.6 |
8 |
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2008 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.