| Scoreboard for Tue. Feb. 26, 2008 |  |
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| Total Viewers (million) | 24.40 | 8.67 | 8.28 | 5.46 | 2.49 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 | 9.4/23 | 2.6/7 | 2.3/6 | 1.8/5 | 1.1/3 |
FOX easily won the night in both total viewers and with 18-49 viewers. An hour and a half of American Idol would have been enough by itself, but it was rounded out with a series-high 12.33 million viewers for Back to You. NBC came in second, CBS in third and ABC in next to last, followed by the CW. The 18-49 rankings were the same.
The Biggest Loser and a rerun of NCIS tried hard to find viewers, and given they ran against AI, probably did a great job.
Both Big Brother and Jericho improved vs. Last Week. BB rose to 6.74 million vs. last week’s 5.42, but last week AI ran all the way until 10pm, and this week at ended at 9:30pm.
Jericho improved from 5.94 million viewers to 6.9 million in the overnights. A pick up of almost a million viewers. But Jericho was bumping heads with the debut of Quarterlife instead of a rerun of Law & Order:SVU. The L&O rerun pulled in 9.3 million viewers last week, Quarterlife only found 3.86 million viewers, so one might argue Jericho should’ve done even better. Both Jericho and Quarterlife lost to the ABC news magazine themed Primetime: What Would You Do Now?
Lately, ABC does OK in the 10pm hour on Tuesday, it’s the comedy lineup between 8p-10p that drags it down to next to last place, beating only the CW for the night. One Tree Hill’s performance at 9pm was 3.17 million — facing off against AI for half the time. The wrong networks are involved so I’ll never see the experiment, but I think One Tree Hill would have done better on NBC at 10pm than Quarterlife did.
See the full night’s details:
| Time | Network | Show | Viewers (Millons) | 18-49 Rating/Share | HH Rating |
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| 8:00 | FOX | American Idol (8p-9:30p) | 28.45 | 11.0/27 | 16.3 |
| CBS | NCIS (Repeat) | 11.2 | 2.1/5 | 7.4 | |
| NBC | The Biggest Loser 8p-10p | 8.07 | 3.1/8 | 5.2 | |
| ABC | Just for Laughs (2 episodes, one new, one repeat) | 4.68 | 1.3/3 | 3.3 | |
| CW | Reaper (Repeat) | 1.81 | 0.7/2 | 1.5 | |
| 9:00 | ABC | According to Jim | 4.63 | 1.4/3 | 3.3 |
| CBS | Big Brother | 6.74 | 2.6/6 | 4.1 | |
| CW | One Tree Hill | 3.17 | 1.4/3 | 2.3 | |
| 9:30 | ABC | Carpoolers | 3.48 | 1.2/3 | 2.6 |
| FOX | Back to You | 12.33 | 4.5/11 | 7.8 | |
| 10:00 | ABC | Primetime: What Would You Do Now? | 7.64 | 2.9/8 | 6 |
| CBS | Jericho | 6.9 | 2.2/6 | 4 | |
| NBC | Quarterlife | 3.86 | 1.6/4 | 2.5 |
Nielsen Ratings Source: Nielsen Media Research. Full night’s results available via Marc Berman/Mediaweek.
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I think these ratings are great for Jericho, up almost a million viewers from last week, plus they're blowing up the internet with iTunes downloads, Tivo, Amazon Unboxed, Xbox, Innertube & Hey! Nielsen – something Boston Legal and Law & Order don't have – strong online presence.
That's a REAL slap in the face to Quarterlife.
I think Jericho has found it's niche. With this being the last episode that was leaked online, I expect next week they'll be higher in the nielsens next week.
I'm happy with what I see!
Karen, I like Jericho and think it out to live on, but probably on the CW if the producers/actors are willing to take the haircut.
Boston Legal sold a ton of DVDs and far, far more than Jericho by far if I counted right (even if I counted wrong, actually!).
CBS isn't saying anything about its innertube/streaming services which leads me to believe its not nearly as big of a deal today as you suggest. It seems that a mere 1,500 downloads or so of a TV show on iTunes will thrust it to the top of that list, so I'm not sure what that means either. I don't think it means much honestly.
I am sure adding a million viewers from last week and getting back to near the levels of the Season 2 premiere is far better than bleeding more viewers!
You can keep trying to make Jericho look like its doing well in the ratings, but the reality is that the show will be canceled. CBS has canceled shows with better ratings in the past. Enjoy the show while you can, because I doubt it will be on much longer.
What will be telling is how the *next* episode of Back to You does tonight (Feb 27).
If it stays boosted by the post-Idol promotion, that's a big win for Fox after it having been off the air for so long.
the question is, how do you calculate “big win”. If we compare the year ago Tuesday night where the premiere of Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader aired, it seems not so much of a victory.
Still, record-highs are record highs.
Robert,
Quincy Smith, who runs CBS' new media division, says the size of the audiences on Veoh are getting close to what some shows are receiving on broadcast television. While he declined to cite specifics, he said the post-apocalyptic drama Jericho has a bigger online audience than it does on traditional TV.
Jacob, without the specifics there are so many ways to spin that. A bigger online audience than it has on traditional tv does not necessarily mean it has more viewers online.
If ~7 million people were watching Jericho online, CBS would be issuing DAILY press releases.
I think these ratings are great for Jericho, up almost a million viewers from last week, plus they’re blowing up the internet with iTunes downloads, Tivo, Amazon Unboxed, Xbox, Innertube & Hey! Nielsen – something Boston Legal and Law & Order don’t have – strong online presence.
That’s a REAL slap in the face to Quarterlife.
I think Jericho has found it’s niche. With this being the last episode that was leaked online, I expect next week they’ll be higher in the nielsens next week.
I’m happy with what I see!
Jacob, Robert beat me to the reply, but I agree 100% with him. The networks won't get serious about the reliable counting and reporting of online audiences until there is real money at stake. When that's likely to happen is a subject about which reasonable people may disagree, but it's not *today*.
Karen, I like Jericho and think it out to live on, but probably on the CW if the producers/actors are willing to take the haircut.
Boston Legal sold a ton of DVDs and far, far more than Jericho by far if I counted right (even if I counted wrong, actually!).
CBS isn’t saying anything about its innertube/streaming services which leads me to believe its not nearly as big of a deal today as you suggest. It seems that a mere 1,500 downloads or so of a TV show on iTunes will thrust it to the top of that list, so I’m not sure what that means either. I don’t think it means much honestly.
I am sure adding a million viewers from last week and getting back to near the levels of the Season 2 premiere is far better than bleeding more viewers!
You can keep trying to make Jericho look like its doing well in the ratings, but the reality is that the show will be canceled. CBS has canceled shows with better ratings in the past. Enjoy the show while you can, because I doubt it will be on much longer.
What will be telling is how the *next* episode of Back to You does tonight (Feb 27).
If it stays boosted by the post-Idol promotion, that’s a big win for Fox after it having been off the air for so long.
the question is, how do you calculate “big win”. If we compare the year ago Tuesday night where the premiere of Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader aired, it seems not so much of a victory.
Still, record-highs are record highs.
Robert,
Quincy Smith, who runs CBS’ new media division, says the size of the audiences on Veoh are getting close to what some shows are receiving on broadcast television. While he declined to cite specifics, he said the post-apocalyptic drama Jericho has a bigger online audience than it does on traditional TV.
Wow. Quarterlife did HORRIBLE. A guess the time slot is a little late for this type of show. But really the people that are interested in Quarterlife can easily see the first 30 episodes on the internet already…I don't understand how NBC thought they were going to get huge ratings for this show.
TVbytheNumbers is thrilled with the Hollywood Reporter debut of James Hibberd (formerly of TVWeek fame), where he will undoubtedly fare better than Quarterlife.
Said Hibberd on Quarterlife “The debut of NBC's new series “quarterlife” marked the network's worst performance in its time period in at least 17 years – including repeats and specials.”
Jacob, without the specifics there are so many ways to spin that. A bigger online audience than it has on traditional tv does not necessarily mean it has more viewers online.
If ~7 million people were watching Jericho online, CBS would be issuing DAILY press releases.
6.9 is not bad for Jerhico,, its probably got about another Million on Tivo. I know I have it on DVR. Watching tonight. That would bring it to around 8 -8.2.. still 2 million short from seeing it again in the fall.
Jacob, Robert beat me to the reply, but I agree 100% with him. The networks won’t get serious about the reliable counting and reporting of online audiences until there is real money at stake. When that’s likely to happen is a subject about which reasonable people may disagree, but it’s not *today*.
Wow. Quarterlife did HORRIBLE. A guess the time slot is a little late for this type of show. But really the people that are interested in Quarterlife can easily see the first 30 episodes on the internet already…I don’t understand how NBC thought they were going to get huge ratings for this show.
TVbytheNumbers is thrilled with the Hollywood Reporter debut of James Hibberd (formerly of TVWeek fame), where he will undoubtedly fare better than Quarterlife.
Said Hibberd on Quarterlife “The debut of NBC’s new series “quarterlife” marked the network’s worst performance in its time period in at least 17 years – including repeats and specials.”
6.9 is not bad for Jerhico,, its probably got about another Million on Tivo. I know I have it on DVR. Watching tonight. That would bring it to around 8 -8.2.. still 2 million short from seeing it again in the fall.
I so glad to see jericho's ratings up. next week will be even better. The ratings could be as high 10 million like it was before the break during Christmas 2006
No doubt the numbers next week will rise, but Bryan said earlier 6.9 is not bad for jericho? Lawl, every single number in season 1 was better than that, look at the stats. well, bye all
I so glad to see jericho’s ratings up. next week will be even better. The ratings could be as high 10 million like it was before the break during Christmas 2006
No doubt the numbers next week will rise, but Bryan said earlier 6.9 is not bad for jericho? Lawl, every single number in season 1 was better than that, look at the stats. well, bye all
Bring Back ” the UNIT ” and the 11 million viewers
Big Brother has lost a sponsor Lowes and is doing horrible in the ratings –
enough senseless reality!
Bill/Robert -
Last week, I checked ahead on 'Back to You' and saw that it was in 'the Gaahhden Spot' right after AI, so….
Snatched it up on both TV BigShot entries for the week. Do you think the price will be raised to the HH… or will they fudge like they do sometimes when there's one of these scheduling anomalies?
BTW… re: quarterlife.
If you compare the 18-49/share and HH numbers to the total viewer numbers for the time slot, '2-bits' (feel free to use that… I use your '2.5 Men' freely – thanks) did better than it appears percentage-wise (if that means anything).
10:00 ABC Prime: WWYDNow? 7.64 2.9/8 6
CBS Jericho 6.9 2.2/6 4
NBC Quarterlife 3.86 1.6/4 2.5
Jericho is so awesome. It would be terribly confusing if someone had not watched all the episodes. I wouldn't be surprised if they do have big numbers watching it online, I know I did to fill in the gaps. I got so hooked, I kept promising myself I wouldn't start the next episode… 5 hours later I would finally do what I needed to and then stay up all night watching more. I obviously found the show late. I am sure there are more out there like me. It is the best show I have watched in years. Since 24 is not on this year, all my 24 watching friends are getting into Jericho and we like it better! I hope the numbers continue to rise. CBS would be stupid to loose the show and the cult-like loyal following it has captured.
Bring Back ” the UNIT ” and the 11 million viewers
Big Brother has lost a sponsor Lowes and is doing horrible in the ratings –
enough senseless reality!
Bill/Robert -
Last week, I checked ahead on ‘Back to You’ and saw that it was in ‘the Gaahhden Spot’ right after AI, so….
Snatched it up on both TV BigShot entries for the week. Do you think the price will be raised to the HH… or will they fudge like they do sometimes when there’s one of these scheduling anomalies?
BTW… re: quarterlife.
If you compare the 18-49/share and HH numbers to the total viewer numbers for the time slot, ‘2-bits’ (feel free to use that… I use your ‘2.5 Men’ freely – thanks) did better than it appears percentage-wise (if that means anything).
10:00 ABC Prime: WWYDNow? 7.64 2.9/8 6
CBS Jericho 6.9 2.2/6 4
NBC Quarterlife 3.86 1.6/4 2.5
Jericho is so awesome. It would be terribly confusing if someone had not watched all the episodes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do have big numbers watching it online, I know I did to fill in the gaps. I got so hooked, I kept promising myself I wouldn’t start the next episode… 5 hours later I would finally do what I needed to and then stay up all night watching more. I obviously found the show late. I am sure there are more out there like me. It is the best show I have watched in years. Since 24 is not on this year, all my 24 watching friends are getting into Jericho and we like it better! I hope the numbers continue to rise. CBS would be stupid to loose the show and the cult-like loyal following it has captured.
Hey Robert! Check this out!
“Quincy Smith, who runs CBS' new media division, says the size of the audiences on Veoh (etc) are getting close to what some shows are receiving on broadcast television. While he declined to cite specifics, he said the post-apocalyptic drama Jericho has a bigger online audience than it does on traditional TV.”
Shouldn't the poor ratings of the 9pm broadcast of 'Big Brother' on CBS give some slack to Jericho? It wasn't exactly the greatest 'springboard' show that kept people watching the same network. Jericho actually gained viewers at a poorer network time.
Is this a valid point?
Jericho is a horribly written show that deserves death. I stopped watching around episode six. I just couldn't take it any more. And I LOVE apocalyptic shows. When I first heard about it, I thought it was written specifically for me! I pushed myself to watch past episode two. By the time ep six came around, I was done. Blech.
Hey Robert! Check this out!
“Quincy Smith, who runs CBS’ new media division, says the size of the audiences on Veoh (etc) are getting close to what some shows are receiving on broadcast television. While he declined to cite specifics, he said the post-apocalyptic drama Jericho has a bigger online audience than it does on traditional TV.”
Shouldn’t the poor ratings of the 9pm broadcast of ‘Big Brother’ on CBS give some slack to Jericho? It wasn’t exactly the greatest ’springboard’ show that kept people watching the same network. Jericho actually gained viewers at a poorer network time.
Is this a valid point?
Jericho is a horribly written show that deserves death. I stopped watching around episode six. I just couldn’t take it any more. And I LOVE apocalyptic shows. When I first heard about it, I thought it was written specifically for me! I pushed myself to watch past episode two. By the time ep six came around, I was done. Blech.
Big Brother isn't a bad show neither is Jericho. And BTW Big Brother's ratings aren't that bad. And besides Big Brother was higher in the 18-49 demographic than Jericho. (BB 2.6/6 Jericho 2.2/6) I am sure that CBS takes into consideration both the viewers and the demographics. I think that Big Brother would do better after Survivor and Jericho would do better with a drama as its lead in.
Big Brother isn’t a bad show neither is Jericho. And BTW Big Brother’s ratings aren’t that bad. And besides Big Brother was higher in the 18-49 demographic than Jericho. (BB 2.6/6 Jericho 2.2/6) I am sure that CBS takes into consideration both the viewers and the demographics. I think that Big Brother would do better after Survivor and Jericho would do better with a drama as its lead in.
Hey,
Just to say my piece, we need to remember a few things when talking about cancellations. First Jericho ratings at 6.9 before Tivo isn't bad. Espically since the first 3 episodes have been watched long ago. Now if Jericho has a big online following then thats a lot more viewers and can really catapult CBS online viewing section if needed. Remember in 3 years writers getting money for online content (so that is coming soon). Secondly, CBS knows Jericho has a Cult following meaning number will not go down and can only grow this is huge reason x-files stayed around til it caught on because number steady out just grew and they new they always count on it, and when you think about it that way guaranteed 7 million + more due to tivo better then trying a new rushed show because of the strike. Also Jericho took a massive budget cut so viewers don't need to be as high to get profit from the show. I think next week show is huge basically the midway point and hasn't been leaked (yet)
Regards,
Follow-up
look at Supernatural on CW (sure CW is a weak network so numbers we talk about are different). The online following is probably bigger then there normal TV viewing and network respect this. Also it's comes on Thursday in arguably the hardest timeslots on TV. In this timeslot it still pulls in 3.2 and that number is raising. They know there nothing else they can put there to due better because it has a hardcore following that is growing.. but most there viewers are all 18-34 and watch a lot from downloads.
CBS is lucky to have a CULT following TV show and should keep it around even as a filler mid season replacement of 10-15 episodes even until catches on more and more then can become a regular (this is a worse case scenario)
Hey,
Just to say my piece, we need to remember a few things when talking about cancellations. First Jericho ratings at 6.9 before Tivo isn’t bad. Espically since the first 3 episodes have been watched long ago. Now if Jericho has a big online following then thats a lot more viewers and can really catapult CBS online viewing section if needed. Remember in 3 years writers getting money for online content (so that is coming soon). Secondly, CBS knows Jericho has a Cult following meaning number will not go down and can only grow this is huge reason x-files stayed around til it caught on because number steady out just grew and they new they always count on it, and when you think about it that way guaranteed 7 million + more due to tivo better then trying a new rushed show because of the strike. Also Jericho took a massive budget cut so viewers don’t need to be as high to get profit from the show. I think next week show is huge basically the midway point and hasn’t been leaked (yet)
Regards,
Follow-up
look at Supernatural on CW (sure CW is a weak network so numbers we talk about are different). The online following is probably bigger then there normal TV viewing and network respect this. Also it’s comes on Thursday in arguably the hardest timeslots on TV. In this timeslot it still pulls in 3.2 and that number is raising. They know there nothing else they can put there to due better because it has a hardcore following that is growing.. but most there viewers are all 18-34 and watch a lot from downloads.
CBS is lucky to have a CULT following TV show and should keep it around even as a filler mid season replacement of 10-15 episodes even until catches on more and more then can become a regular (this is a worse case scenario)
Jericho is a great show and the new episodes have super fast-paced action. I can't wait for the next four! This is the best hour-long drama I've seen on TV in ages. It has great sci-fi, futuristic and dramatic appeal. Plus all the “what if” real life scenario ty-ins are great!
The reason the first three episodes have lower ratings is because of the episode leak. I bet many people haven'y watched so far because they already downloaded and watched them.
Steven, et all. OK — if Jericho next week has 9 million or 10 million viewers we'll be able to (somewhat reasonably) conclude, “Gosh, 2-3 million people did watch the episodes early.”
On the other hand, if it's still only around 7m viewers, what will you conclude?
I don't think the leaking of episodes online had a signficant effect on ratings. We'll see next week.
Jericho is a great show and the new episodes have super fast-paced action. I can’t wait for the next four! This is the best hour-long drama I’ve seen on TV in ages. It has great sci-fi, futuristic and dramatic appeal. Plus all the “what if” real life scenario ty-ins are great!
The reason the first three episodes have lower ratings is because of the episode leak. I bet many people haven’y watched so far because they already downloaded and watched them.
Steven, et all. OK — if Jericho next week has 9 million or 10 million viewers we’ll be able to (somewhat reasonably) conclude, “Gosh, 2-3 million people did watch the episodes early.”
On the other hand, if it’s still only around 7m viewers, what will you conclude?
Does anyone know how many DVDs that Jericho sold for the first season?
I don’t think the leaking of episodes online had a signficant effect on ratings. We’ll see next week.
Tim, other than knowing it didn't sell as well as say the third season of Lost (which sold over a million units), no.
There's a nice site called http://www.the-numbers.com (no relation) that reports top 30 DVD sales each week. Jericho has been out on DVD since the beginning of October and never made one of these lists. That doesn't mean anything other than it never had a week where it sold even 40K units or so.
By comparison in October Hannah Montana – Life's What You Make it was selling over 60K units a week and had over 175,000 units after 3 weeks. Lost, in late December after 3 weeks was selling 133K units a week and had over a million units sold within that time. After 6 weeks on the charts, Lost had sold 1.16 million units (so it seems to be front loaded). In its 7th week on the chart Lost season 3 was still selling 40K+ units a week and had gone over 1.2 million units.
Does anyone know how many DVDs that Jericho sold for the first season?
Tim, other than knowing it didn’t sell as well as say the third season of Lost (which sold over a million units), no.
There’s a nice site called http://www.the-numbers.com (no relation) that reports top 30 DVD sales each week. Jericho has been out on DVD since the beginning of October and never made one of these lists. That doesn’t mean anything other than it never had a week where it sold even 40K units or so.
By comparison in October Hannah Montana – Life’s What You Make it was selling over 60K units a week and had over 175,000 units after 3 weeks. Lost, in late December after 3 weeks was selling 133K units a week and had over a million units sold within that time. After 6 weeks on the charts, Lost had sold 1.16 million units (so it seems to be front loaded). In its 7th week on the chart Lost season 3 was still selling 40K+ units a week and had gone over 1.2 million units.
Since '2bits' is the first real net-to-TV experiment, seems to me that NBC (and all of the other networks) will prob stick with it and tweak until they get the info they want/need.
I would expect that they made a commit to stick with it for X amnt of eps, regardless of numbers (I'm sure they were hoping for better).
Don't write this off too soon… they really didn't promote it on the TV side a great deal. I would try different methods before I cancelled – just to get a read.
It's a new frontier… trial and error.
Jon, Quarterlife isn't the new frontier. Quarterlife was MADE FOR TV, and rejected. Then cut up into six minute segments and put online. Then, reassembled back to its original state for TV.
The first instinct to reject it was the correct one. I don't need more data, but if you need a few more weeks of data first, I won't fault you for giving it more of a chance than I am giving it.
Either way though, no chance. Right?
Right you are… I'm not a watcher and I don't think it will work out (for this show and at this time).
I was thinking more in terms of the 'experimental' results and the networks seeing if they can somehow find a crossover method that works. For that reason, I would continue the 'trial' and see if there is some information that can be gleaned for future reference.
Not me, I'd slap another airing of Deal or No Deal on quicker than you can say 2 bits!
OR just keep rerunning the Knight Rider movie until it dips below four million…
I'm surprised that with corporate groups of broadcast and cable networks now being the norm that shows & networks are not treated more like the ballplayers and the Major Leagues and the Minors in terms of call ups and send downs.
Wayne Friedman at Mediapost had a nice piece on that recently.
Me too, Bill! My sense is that the entities have largely been run as stand-alone. I believe it will come to that sort of thing, but the network heads aren't as good as some of the GM's in baseball (though as a SF Giants fan, I'd take Zucker or Moonves over Sabean any day!)
Let's face it, the repurposed Law & Order: CI more than doubled Quarterlife's showing, and in a much more competitive timeslot (though admittedly, a time slot with more viewer) at that. Dexter has done OK on CBS and I imagine Monk will significantly outperform Quarterlife on NBC.
Bob/Bill -
When you guys get to be my age [sheesh - did I actually type that], you'll understand the wisdom of long-term thinking. The writer's strike is the perfect excuse to screw around with some off-the-wall stuff and see if it has a future.
The 'Alphabets' have already conceded the season to FOX, so, to use Bill's bring-up-some-minor-leaguers analogy, let's throw them some curveballs and see if they can hit.
They've got until September before they're in another pennant race.
Since ‘2bits’ is the first real net-to-TV experiment, seems to me that NBC (and all of the other networks) will prob stick with it and tweak until they get the info they want/need.
I would expect that they made a commit to stick with it for X amnt of eps, regardless of numbers (I’m sure they were hoping for better).
Don’t write this off too soon… they really didn’t promote it on the TV side a great deal. I would try different methods before I cancelled – just to get a read.
It’s a new frontier… trial and error.
sorry Jon to me that's like saying someday all broadcast shows will be under 5 million might as well just accept it now.
Your logic is completely lost on me. Be thinking about the long-term, yes,but maximize the short-term. Fox seems to be the only network doing that. Meanwhile CBS/CW crow about what a hit on the web Gossip Girl is. To that end I applaud the peacocks for axing Quarterlife immediately.
Jon, Quarterlife isn’t the new frontier. Quarterlife was MADE FOR TV, and rejected. Then cut up into six minute segments and put online. Then, reassembled back to its original state for TV.
The first instinct to reject it was the correct one. I don’t need more data, but if you need a few more weeks of data first, I won’t fault you for giving it more of a chance than I am giving it.
Either way though, no chance. Right?
Right you are… I’m not a watcher and I don’t think it will work out (for this show and at this time).
I was thinking more in terms of the ‘experimental’ results and the networks seeing if they can somehow find a crossover method that works. For that reason, I would continue the ‘trial’ and see if there is some information that can be gleaned for future reference.
Not me, I’d slap another airing of Deal or No Deal on quicker than you can say 2 bits!
OR just keep rerunning the Knight Rider movie until it dips below four million…
I’m surprised that with corporate groups of broadcast and cable networks now being the norm that shows & networks are not treated more like the ballplayers and the Major Leagues and the Minors in terms of call ups and send downs.
Wayne Friedman at Mediapost had a nice piece on that recently.
Jon, You're maybe 5 years older than I am
I don't buy that anyone has ceded anything to Fox, and if they have they're idiots.
Who “wins” the season matters only for bragging rights.
Relative ratings, including specific age groups, likely correlate pretty well to absolute revenue potential, so doing better is *always* better than doing worse.
Being #1, #2, etc. is for folks like us to chat about, working to get the marginal viewer is what the networks should always be doing.
Me too, Bill! My sense is that the entities have largely been run as stand-alone. I believe it will come to that sort of thing, but the network heads aren’t as good as some of the GM’s in baseball (though as a SF Giants fan, I’d take Zucker or Moonves over Sabean any day!)
Let’s face it, the repurposed Law & Order: CI more than doubled Quarterlife’s showing, and in a much more competitive timeslot (though admittedly, a time slot with more viewer) at that. Dexter has done OK on CBS and I imagine Monk will significantly outperform Quarterlife on NBC.
Bob/Bill -
When you guys get to be my age [sheesh - did I actually type that], you’ll understand the wisdom of long-term thinking. The writer’s strike is the perfect excuse to screw around with some off-the-wall stuff and see if it has a future.
The ‘Alphabets’ have already conceded the season to FOX, so, to use Bill’s bring-up-some-minor-leaguers analogy, let’s throw them some curveballs and see if they can hit.
They’ve got until September before they’re in another pennant race.
sorry Jon to me that’s like saying someday all broadcast shows will be under 5 million might as well just accept it now.
Your logic is completely lost on me. Be thinking about the long-term, yes,but maximize the short-term. Fox seems to be the only network doing that. Meanwhile CBS/CW crow about what a hit on the web Gossip Girl is. To that end I applaud the peacocks for axing Quarterlife immediately.
Jon, You’re maybe 5 years older than I am
I don’t buy that anyone has ceded anything to Fox, and if they have they’re idiots.
Who “wins” the season matters only for bragging rights.
Relative ratings, including specific age groups, likely correlate pretty well to absolute revenue potential, so doing better is *always* better than doing worse.
Being #1, #2, etc. is for folks like us to chat about, working to get the marginal viewer is what the networks should always be doing.
Jericho For the Win, what a great show!
Jericho For the Win, what a great show!