Comments on: Top Time-Shifted Broadcast Shows, February 11-17 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820 Nielsen TV Show Ratings, Data and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:18:30 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Matt http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5788 Matt Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:15:01 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5788 Jericho!!! is the best show ever!!! cant wait for season 3!!! and if we have to we will send more nuts!!! Jericho!!! is the best show ever!!! cant wait for season 3!!! and if we have to we will send more nuts!!!

]]> By: Matt http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17659 Matt Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:15:01 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17659 Jericho!!! is the best show ever!!! cant wait for season 3!!! and if we have to we will send more nuts!!! Jericho!!! is the best show ever!!! cant wait for season 3!!! and if we have to we will send more nuts!!!

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5786 Robert Seidman Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:15:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5786 Karen, I share your pain to some extent but I realize that for the most part the shows I actually am going to want to watch probably don't usually belong on broadcast networks during primetime (save perhaps the CW). There's plenty of TV I love regardless, though a lot of it is on ESPN, the SciFi Channel, USA, HBO and Showtime. My opinion is that the economics probably don't really support a show like Jericho with the numbers it has being on a broadcast network during primetime (save perhaps the CW). That doesn't mean it shouldn't be on TV at all and be profitable by any means. You'd have to imagine Jericho would be the biggest show on the CW! But whether the producers/actors/etc would want to take the haircut $ wise associated with the difference between being on CBS and the CW I have no idea. I don't completely agree with your viewpoint that a show like American Idol is purlely for zombies. I know many well educated, fairly well off people who enjoy the show for a variety of reasons. It's not my cup of tea, but I am a believer in the law of large numbers and Idol's numbers ARE LARGE. So it stands to reason that they have the most <b>everything</b>: -smart people -stupid people -rich people -poor people -people who buy a lot of books -people who never read -etc. Karen, I share your pain to some extent but I realize that for the most part the shows I actually am going to want to watch probably don’t usually belong on broadcast networks during primetime (save perhaps the CW).

There’s plenty of TV I love regardless, though a lot of it is on ESPN, the SciFi Channel, USA, HBO and Showtime.

My opinion is that the economics probably don’t really support a show like Jericho with the numbers it has being on a broadcast network during primetime (save perhaps the CW). That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be on TV at all and be profitable by any means.

You’d have to imagine Jericho would be the biggest show on the CW! But whether the producers/actors/etc would want to take the haircut $ wise associated with the difference between being on CBS and the CW I have no idea.

I don’t completely agree with your viewpoint that a show like American Idol is purlely for zombies. I know many well educated, fairly well off people who enjoy the show for a variety of reasons. It’s not my cup of tea, but I am a believer in the law of large numbers and Idol’s numbers ARE LARGE. So it stands to reason that they have the most everything:

-smart people
-stupid people
-rich people
-poor people
-people who buy a lot of books
-people who never read
-etc.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5784 Bill Gorman Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:24:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5784 Karen, make no mistake that paying Nielsen customers likely are able to purchase significant demographic data on viewing habits for shows that we do not have access to. Some of that may explain decisions that seem wacky without that detailed data. Karen, make no mistake that paying Nielsen customers likely are able to purchase significant demographic data on viewing habits for shows that we do not have access to.

Some of that may explain decisions that seem wacky without that detailed data.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17658 Robert Seidman Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:15:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17658 Karen, I share your pain to some extent but I realize that for the most part the shows I actually am going to want to watch probably don't usually belong on broadcast networks during primetime (save perhaps the CW).<br><br>There's plenty of TV I love regardless, though a lot of it is on ESPN, the SciFi Channel, USA, HBO and Showtime. <br><br>My opinion is that the economics probably don't really support a show like Jericho with the numbers it has being on a broadcast network during primetime (save perhaps the CW). That doesn't mean it shouldn't be on TV at all and be profitable by any means. <br><br>You'd have to imagine Jericho would be the biggest show on the CW! But whether the producers/actors/etc would want to take the haircut $ wise associated with the difference between being on CBS and the CW I have no idea.<br><br>I don't completely agree with your viewpoint that a show like American Idol is purlely for zombies. I know many well educated, fairly well off people who enjoy the show for a variety of reasons. It's not my cup of tea, but I am a believer in the law of large numbers and Idol's numbers ARE LARGE. So it stands to reason that they have the most <b>everything</b>:<br><br>-smart people<br>-stupid people<br>-rich people<br>-poor people<br>-people who buy a lot of books<br>-people who never read<br>-etc. Karen, I share your pain to some extent but I realize that for the most part the shows I actually am going to want to watch probably don't usually belong on broadcast networks during primetime (save perhaps the CW).

There's plenty of TV I love regardless, though a lot of it is on ESPN, the SciFi Channel, USA, HBO and Showtime.

My opinion is that the economics probably don't really support a show like Jericho with the numbers it has being on a broadcast network during primetime (save perhaps the CW). That doesn't mean it shouldn't be on TV at all and be profitable by any means.

You'd have to imagine Jericho would be the biggest show on the CW! But whether the producers/actors/etc would want to take the haircut $ wise associated with the difference between being on CBS and the CW I have no idea.

I don't completely agree with your viewpoint that a show like American Idol is purlely for zombies. I know many well educated, fairly well off people who enjoy the show for a variety of reasons. It's not my cup of tea, but I am a believer in the law of large numbers and Idol's numbers ARE LARGE. So it stands to reason that they have the most everything:

-smart people
-stupid people
-rich people
-poor people
-people who buy a lot of books
-people who never read
-etc.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17657 Bill Gorman Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:24:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17657 Karen, make no mistake that paying Nielsen customers likely are able to purchase significant demographic data on viewing habits for shows that we do not have access to.<br><br>Some of that may explain decisions that seem wacky without that detailed data. Karen, make no mistake that paying Nielsen customers likely are able to purchase significant demographic data on viewing habits for shows that we do not have access to.

Some of that may explain decisions that seem wacky without that detailed data.

]]> By: Multi http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5778 Multi Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:09:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5778 Thanks so much for your responses and I saw your post at NYTimes Bill G. nice job. Thanks so much for your responses and I saw your post at NYTimes Bill G. nice job.

]]> By: Multi http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17656 Multi Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:09:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17656 Thanks so much for your responses and I saw your post at NYTimes Bill G. nice job. Thanks so much for your responses and I saw your post at NYTimes Bill G. nice job.

]]> By: Karen http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5775 Karen Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:46:27 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5775 Or, maybe we are adequately represented but an audience which the advertisers simply do not care to point themselves at. We are small, smaller than the masses that want zombie TV. It would, IMO, be way more interesting to see who had more disposable income and what type of things we purchase. However, we are also the type that balk at too much of our habits being known and the information used. So perhaps it is like the old "break up" line "It's not you, it's me". I agree it is totally frustrating. Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 because he was afraid TV would destroy book reading. Honestly, I don't think that has been a valid concern until recently. There is certainly a chance that someone who likes Jericho will pick up Alas, Babylon (and must because recently while in Barnes and Noble there was an entire stack of that novel on a center aisle table), but what are the watchers of American Idol going to go read? Or, maybe we are adequately represented but an audience which the advertisers simply do not care to point themselves at. We are small, smaller than the masses that want zombie TV. It would, IMO, be way more interesting to see who had more disposable income and what type of things we purchase. However, we are also the type that balk at too much of our habits being known and the information used. So perhaps it is like the old “break up” line “It’s not you, it’s me”.

I agree it is totally frustrating. Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 because he was afraid TV would destroy book reading. Honestly, I don’t think that has been a valid concern until recently. There is certainly a chance that someone who likes Jericho will pick up Alas, Babylon (and must because recently while in Barnes and Noble there was an entire stack of that novel on a center aisle table), but what are the watchers of American Idol going to go read?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5770 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:53:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5770 Kayarn, why do you think one of the companies Nielsen recently bought was a biometric research company? One of its primary objectives I'm sure will be to document how the advertising, even when it's viewed via fast forwarding is still effective. These sorts of studies so far have shown that especially the commercial right before the show comes back on receives a lot of focus during fast forwarding as users are focused to figure out when to stop. If I were an advertiser I wouldn't want to pay for any of the DVR users fast-forwarding unless I was the last spot, and even then, I wouldn't want to pay as much as I would for people who aren't watching via DVR. I think Nielsen will spend a bit of money trying to convince the advertisers its still effective. The only way I see it not happening that way is if the advertisers start paying Nielsen more than the broadcast networks do and I don't see that happening. Kayarn, why do you think one of the companies Nielsen recently bought was a biometric research company? One of its primary objectives I’m sure will be to document how the advertising, even when it’s viewed via fast forwarding is still effective.

These sorts of studies so far have shown that especially the commercial right before the show comes back on receives a lot of focus during fast forwarding as users are focused to figure out when to stop.

If I were an advertiser I wouldn’t want to pay for any of the DVR users fast-forwarding unless I was the last spot, and even then, I wouldn’t want to pay as much as I would for people who aren’t watching via DVR. I think Nielsen will spend a bit of money trying to convince the advertisers its still effective. The only way I see it not happening that way is if the advertisers start paying Nielsen more than the broadcast networks do and I don’t see that happening.

]]> By: Karen http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17655 Karen Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:46:27 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17655 Or, maybe we are adequately represented but an audience which the advertisers simply do not care to point themselves at. We are small, smaller than the masses that want zombie TV. It would, IMO, be way more interesting to see who had more disposable income and what type of things we purchase. However, we are also the type that balk at too much of our habits being known and the information used. So perhaps it is like the old "break up" line "It's not you, it's me". <br><br>I agree it is totally frustrating. Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 because he was afraid TV would destroy book reading. Honestly, I don't think that has been a valid concern until recently. There is certainly a chance that someone who likes Jericho will pick up Alas, Babylon (and must because recently while in Barnes and Noble there was an entire stack of that novel on a center aisle table), but what are the watchers of American Idol going to go read? Or, maybe we are adequately represented but an audience which the advertisers simply do not care to point themselves at. We are small, smaller than the masses that want zombie TV. It would, IMO, be way more interesting to see who had more disposable income and what type of things we purchase. However, we are also the type that balk at too much of our habits being known and the information used. So perhaps it is like the old “break up” line “It's not you, it's me”.

I agree it is totally frustrating. Ray Bradbury wrote Fahrenheit 451 because he was afraid TV would destroy book reading. Honestly, I don't think that has been a valid concern until recently. There is certainly a chance that someone who likes Jericho will pick up Alas, Babylon (and must because recently while in Barnes and Noble there was an entire stack of that novel on a center aisle table), but what are the watchers of American Idol going to go read?

]]> By: kayarn http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5765 kayarn Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:28:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5765 yea but how much are advertisers willing to pay for that kind of viewership where people can essentially fast-forward through the commercials. and subsequently, how highly do networks factor in dvr numbers when they look to pick up shows. some presumed bubble shows like friday night lights add over 1 million people L+7. i guess that can only help them, but how much? yea but how much are advertisers willing to pay for that kind of viewership where people can essentially fast-forward through the commercials. and subsequently, how highly do networks factor in dvr numbers when they look to pick up shows.

some presumed bubble shows like friday night lights add over 1 million people L+7. i guess that can only help them, but how much?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17654 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:53:58 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17654 Kayarn, why do you think one of the companies Nielsen recently bought was a biometric research company? One of its primary objectives I'm sure will be to document how the advertising, even when it's viewed via fast forwarding is still effective.<br><br>These sorts of studies so far have shown that especially the commercial right before the show comes back on receives a lot of focus during fast forwarding as users are focused to figure out when to stop.<br><br>If I were an advertiser I wouldn't want to pay for any of the DVR users fast-forwarding unless I was the last spot, and even then, I wouldn't want to pay as much as I would for people who aren't watching via DVR. I think Nielsen will spend a bit of money trying to convince the advertisers its still effective. The only way I see it not happening that way is if the advertisers start paying Nielsen more than the broadcast networks do and I don't see that happening. Kayarn, why do you think one of the companies Nielsen recently bought was a biometric research company? One of its primary objectives I'm sure will be to document how the advertising, even when it's viewed via fast forwarding is still effective.

These sorts of studies so far have shown that especially the commercial right before the show comes back on receives a lot of focus during fast forwarding as users are focused to figure out when to stop.

If I were an advertiser I wouldn't want to pay for any of the DVR users fast-forwarding unless I was the last spot, and even then, I wouldn't want to pay as much as I would for people who aren't watching via DVR. I think Nielsen will spend a bit of money trying to convince the advertisers its still effective. The only way I see it not happening that way is if the advertisers start paying Nielsen more than the broadcast networks do and I don't see that happening.

]]> By: kayarn http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17653 kayarn Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:28:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17653 yea but how much are advertisers willing to pay for that kind of viewership where people can essentially fast-forward through the commercials. and subsequently, how highly do networks factor in dvr numbers when they look to pick up shows.<br><br>some presumed bubble shows like friday night lights add over 1 million people L+7. i guess that can only help them, but how much? yea but how much are advertisers willing to pay for that kind of viewership where people can essentially fast-forward through the commercials. and subsequently, how highly do networks factor in dvr numbers when they look to pick up shows.

some presumed bubble shows like friday night lights add over 1 million people L+7. i guess that can only help them, but how much?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5760 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:21:15 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5760 Multi most of the analysis I've seen over about the last year suggest that regardless of what night, most of the DVR viewing was front loaded (most of the viewing happend within 72 hours). I've seen studies that suggest that's getting pushed further out. We can do only a tiny little bit of analysis with what we have. For the LOST episode above it was 11.99 million LIVE, 13.76m LIVE+SD and 15.64 LIVE+7. So almost half (48.3%) of the LOST DVR viewership for the week above happened within 6 hours of when it broadcast (the cut off is 3am). So 48% happening with the first 6 hours suggests to me things are definitely still front loaded, at least in the case of Lost. Multi most of the analysis I’ve seen over about the last year suggest that regardless of what night, most of the DVR viewing was front loaded (most of the viewing happend within 72 hours). I’ve seen studies that suggest that’s getting pushed further out.

We can do only a tiny little bit of analysis with what we have. For the LOST episode above it was 11.99 million LIVE, 13.76m LIVE+SD and 15.64 LIVE+7. So almost half (48.3%) of the LOST DVR viewership for the week above happened within 6 hours of when it broadcast (the cut off is 3am).

So 48% happening with the first 6 hours suggests to me things are definitely still front loaded, at least in the case of Lost.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5758 Bill Gorman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:49:53 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5758 Multi, we have almost no data on C+3 and we have no data on the particular days of the week that people watch their DVR'd shows, so it's just a guess, but I'd think that there are so many factors that influence when a show gets watched on DVR that it would be tough to isolate just one of them. With the level of data we see, it would be impossible. Multi, we have almost no data on C+3 and we have no data on the particular days of the week that people watch their DVR’d shows, so it’s just a guess, but I’d think that there are so many factors that influence when a show gets watched on DVR that it would be tough to isolate just one of them. With the level of data we see, it would be impossible.

]]> By: Multi http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5756 Multi Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:39:07 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5756 Thanks for the info, and here's the follow up? Might live+3 for a show that airs on Thurs, Fri, or Sat track more closely to Live+7 since I'm guessing most people catch up on DVR recorded shows on the weekend? Thanks for the info, and here’s the follow up? Might live+3 for a show that airs on Thurs, Fri, or Sat track more closely to Live+7 since I’m guessing most people catch up on DVR recorded shows on the weekend?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17652 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:21:15 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17652 Multi most of the analysis I've seen over about the last year suggest that regardless of what night, most of the DVR viewing was front loaded (most of the viewing happend within 72 hours). I've seen studies that suggest that's getting pushed further out. <br><br>We can do only a tiny little bit of analysis with what we have. For the LOST episode above it was 11.99 million LIVE, 13.76m LIVE+SD and 15.64 LIVE+7. So almost half (48.3%) of the LOST DVR viewership for the week above happened within 6 hours of when it broadcast (the cut off is 3am).<br><br>So 48% happening with the first 6 hours suggests to me things are definitely still front loaded, at least in the case of Lost. Multi most of the analysis I've seen over about the last year suggest that regardless of what night, most of the DVR viewing was front loaded (most of the viewing happend within 72 hours). I've seen studies that suggest that's getting pushed further out.

We can do only a tiny little bit of analysis with what we have. For the LOST episode above it was 11.99 million LIVE, 13.76m LIVE+SD and 15.64 LIVE+7. So almost half (48.3%) of the LOST DVR viewership for the week above happened within 6 hours of when it broadcast (the cut off is 3am).

So 48% happening with the first 6 hours suggests to me things are definitely still front loaded, at least in the case of Lost.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17651 Bill Gorman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:49:53 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17651 Multi, we have almost no data on C+3 and we have no data on the particular days of the week that people watch their DVR'd shows, so it's just a guess, but I'd think that there are so many factors that influence when a show gets watched on DVR that it would be tough to isolate just one of them. With the level of data we see, it would be impossible. Multi, we have almost no data on C+3 and we have no data on the particular days of the week that people watch their DVR'd shows, so it's just a guess, but I'd think that there are so many factors that influence when a show gets watched on DVR that it would be tough to isolate just one of them. With the level of data we see, it would be impossible.

]]> By: Multi http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17650 Multi Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:39:07 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17650 Thanks for the info, and here's the follow up? Might live+3 for a show that airs on Thurs, Fri, or Sat track more closely to Live+7 since I'm guessing most people catch up on DVR recorded shows on the weekend? Thanks for the info, and here's the follow up? Might live+3 for a show that airs on Thurs, Fri, or Sat track more closely to Live+7 since I'm guessing most people catch up on DVR recorded shows on the weekend?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5732 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:44:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5732 They say what really counts are the C+3 ratings which are the commercial ratings with 3 days of DVR usage. We do not get the commercial ratings. Everything we've seen so far leads me to believe that C+3 tracks so closely with LIVE+SD numbers, that because the LIVE+SD (same day) come out soooo much sooner, my guess is those and the demo numbers are the numbers that count. They say what really counts are the C+3 ratings which are the commercial ratings with 3 days of DVR usage. We do not get the commercial ratings.

Everything we’ve seen so far leads me to believe that C+3 tracks so closely with LIVE+SD numbers, that because the LIVE+SD (same day) come out soooo much sooner, my guess is those and the demo numbers are the numbers that count.

]]> By: Multi http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5731 Multi Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:37:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5731 Hi! Thanks for posting the DVR numbers it's always interesting to see how my favorite shows fare . As far as setting ad rates, what numbers are being used. I've heard Live, Live+SD, Live+3 and Live+7 being tossed around this year - which one actually counts in the end? Hi! Thanks for posting the DVR numbers it’s always interesting to see how my favorite shows fare . As far as setting ad rates, what numbers are being used. I’ve heard Live, Live+SD, Live+3 and Live+7 being tossed around this year – which one actually counts in the end?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17649 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:44:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17649 They say what really counts are the C+3 ratings which are the commercial ratings with 3 days of DVR usage. We do not get the commercial ratings.<br><br>Everything we've seen so far leads me to believe that C+3 tracks so closely with LIVE+SD numbers, that because the LIVE+SD (same day) come out soooo much sooner, my guess is those and the demo numbers are the numbers that count. They say what really counts are the C+3 ratings which are the commercial ratings with 3 days of DVR usage. We do not get the commercial ratings.

Everything we've seen so far leads me to believe that C+3 tracks so closely with LIVE+SD numbers, that because the LIVE+SD (same day) come out soooo much sooner, my guess is those and the demo numbers are the numbers that count.

]]> By: Multi http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17648 Multi Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:37:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-17648 Hi! Thanks for posting the DVR numbers it's always interesting to see how my favorite shows fare . As far as setting ad rates, what numbers are being used. I've heard Live, Live+SD, Live+3 and Live+7 being tossed around this year - which one actually counts in the end? Hi! Thanks for posting the DVR numbers it's always interesting to see how my favorite shows fare . As far as setting ad rates, what numbers are being used. I've heard Live, Live+SD, Live+3 and Live+7 being tossed around this year – which one actually counts in the end?

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5724 Robert Seidman Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:23:22 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/03/top-timeshifted-broadcast-shows-february-11-17/2820#comment-5724 Frank, <a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/04/nielsen-ratings-for-mon-march-3-another-abc-monday/2830" rel="nofollow">yep.</a> Frank, yep.

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