| Scoreboard for Tue. April 8, 2008 |  |
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| Total Viewers (million) | 17.85 | 10.75 | 8.91 | 8.26 | 1.77 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 | 7.2/18 | 2.5/6 | 3.4/9 | 2.3/6 | 0.7/2 |
American Idol was on and FOX won the night across the board. American Idol is off its former glory but still commanding 24 million viewers and a 8.9/24 in the 18-49 demographic. Later on FOX was Hell’s Kitchen which had less than half the viewers as Idol, but retained more than 50% of the 18-49 demographic. The 11.63 million viewers and the 5.4/13 rating/share in the demo may be adjusted downward in the finals as again, according to my DVR, Idol ran into the 9pm hour a little bit. But Gordon Ramsay is an 18-49 demo force, with almost five million fewer viewers than Dancing With the Stars, HK still won the age demographic.
Chef must know his status, he just does whatever he wants on the show – including ejecting someone who was not nominated for ejection. Nonetheless, I find that I cannot “get out of Hell’s Kitchen.”
Over on ABC the aforementioned DWTS results show pulled in 16.54 million with a 3.5/9 demo rating/share, obviously its biggest show of the night, and significantly bigger in viewers and the demo than the hours worth of Just for Laughs (season finale) that came before it. At 10pm Boston Legal was back and won the hour with 10.16 million viewers. But it was beaten by a repeat of Law & Order: SVU in the 18-49 demographic. BL’s numbers will likely be adjusted down as well since DWTS ran a couple of minutes into the 10pm hour.
Over on CBS, NCIS raked in 13.88 million, but trailed both The Biggest Loser and of course Idol in the 18-49 demographic. Big Brother gave another consistent Tuesday night performance (consistently under 6.5 million viewers). But the verdict is in, not that many people want to watch Star Trek’s Sulu (George Takei) sing country I guess. Only 4.61 million tuned in for Secret Talents of the Stars, with a 1.5/4 in the demographic. And yes, that is significantly worse than Jericho performed in the same timeslot.
Over on NBC The Biggest Loser has to get a little love. Two hours worth averaged 9.05 million viewers and a 3.7/9, leading NBC to second place for the night in the age demographic, despite the third place finish overall. And a 3.0/8 in the demo for the Law & Order: SVU repeat was not shabby either.
Things are rough for the CW. A repeat of Reaper did just about as well as a new installment of Beauty and the Geek. Neither did very well at all.
See the night’s full details:
| Time | Network | Show | Viewers (Millons) | 18-49 Rating/Share | HH Rating |
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| 8:00 | FOX | American Idol 8p-9p | 24.00 | 8.9/24 | 14.4 |
| CBS | NCIS | 13.88 | 2.9/8 | 8.8 | |
| NBC | The Biggest Loser (8p-10p) | 9.05 | 3.7/9 | 5.5 | |
| ABC | Just for Laughs | 5.46 | 1.4/4 | 1.5 | |
| CW | Beauty and the Geek | 1.80 | 0.8/2 | ||
| 8:30 | ABC | Just for Laughs | 5.64 | 1.5/4 | 3.4 |
| 9:00 | CBS | Big Brother 9 | 6.30 | 2.4/6 | 3.6 |
| ABC | Dancing With the Stars | 16.54 | 3.5/9 | 11.4 | |
| FOX | Hells Kitchen | 11.63 | 5.4/13 | 7.0 | |
| CW | Reaper (Repeat) | 1.74 | 0.6/2 | 1.2 | |
| 10:00 | CBS | Secret Talents pf the Stars | 4.61 | 1.5/4 | 2.9 |
| NBC | Law & Order: SVU (Repeat) | 8.62 | 3.0/8 | 6.6 | |
| ABC | Boston Legal | 10.16 | 2.5/7 | 6.6 |
Nielsen Ratings Source: Nielsen Media Research. Full night’s results available via Marc Berman/Mediaweek.
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LOL! Secret Talents of the Stars did worse than Jericho in that time slot. CBS would be better off airing a CSI Miami rerun. Some would say why not Jericho reruns, but the few times CBS did air Jericho reruns they were lucky to get 1 million viewers. Plus CBS simply wants nothing more to do with Jericho other than selling it to someone else. Of course, I suspect it could remain there for its brief scheduled run just because its dirt cheap to make. Really, how much did they pay Mr. Sulu to sing like a cowboy? 100 bucks?
Can u tell me the ratings of PBS, do they fare more than CW? and how does Ellen do in daytime???
dearme, we don’t see any PBS ratings. My guess is that it’s because they are not ad supported, because we do see information on all other broadcast primetime shows.
We do have weekly Syndicated ratings, I don’t recall Ellen ever appearing in the list.
PBS numbers do exist, but I’ve never seen them unless they are running a special show or miniseries and they publish the ratings.
I don’t think “Secret Talents of the Stars” will have a second season. CBS would have better luck having an edition of “Celebrity Big Brother” and have it last 25 days like in the UK.
Also I think BB deserves some props because its premier episode had around 7m viewers and all other episodes have around 5 to 6m viewers.
@Josh it has been very stable with its viewership and up until the return of new scripted shows, it was often the only CBS show on Tuesday nights with a 2.0 or better rating in the demo.
I believe the NCIS was a new one and not a repeat accounting for its high ratings.
that’s a bad edit on my part, thanks for catching, NCIS was definitely a new episode. i generally use the week before’s table as a template when the shows are very similar. Thanks for spotting it. Fixed!
cbs sucks like crap………….i hope they get shut down………….. set of crappy and boring crime shows………….so shitting negative!!!
@Steve, the odds of you having a heart attack over getting angry at at a television network are so much greater than the odds of CBS getting shut down that there’s no way to scale it to produce a readable chart.
You don’t like “boring crime shows”, but millions of people do. While I have no problem that you don’t like CBS, I’d at least encourage you to try to explain it like a reasonable person instead of acting like a raving madman here. Thanks.
anyone notice NO promos for BL but 2 for eli during dancing last night? unless i missed something… seems like abc is going out of there way to push BL as low as possible without completely pissing off d. kelley. after being off the air for a month maybe a promo would have been nice. yet it still managed 10 mill and it always goes up well in dvr numbrs which is all younger skewing. good episode too.
I’ll second Steve’s opinion in a reasonable manner: crime shows suck. It is like the television equivalent of all those average-minded suckers out there who have made Tom Clancy a millionaire – average people, with average sized brains, reading average books.
Average is how bestsellers and ratings giants are born.
haha, take that. GO JERICHO! haha, people do watch jericho by the way, if 9 million people sent nuts, and only 6 million are watching the show… ratings flawed. It’s the NUMBER 1 watched show on iTunes, DVD sales, internet sites, and DVR/VHS… Jericho should be kept dammit… boooooo secret talents of the stars
if you think even 900,000 mailed nuts…
LaZD, Gossip Girl was also #1 on iTunes for awhile. Not sure what that says . . .
I think people who like shows other people aren’t watching just need to accept it and not blame ratings, time changes, or competition. As a fan of many genre shows (BSG, Farscape, Supernatural), I know it’s hard. But kf someone wants to watch a show, they will. Lost is a good example. It has shed ratings, yes, but a significant number of people have followed it through time changes and different airings.
Angie, if we had a “voice of reason” award, I would surely award today’s to you. I think for some it’s just easier to get mad at Nielsen and the networks.
The main reason the Nielsen’s are flawed is that the owners of the Nielsen boxes, demographically, do not represent the MAJORITY of people. Demographically, Nielsen owners are older, have less $$$$ — when you think about all the trouble one has to go through to record what you watch etc for Nielsen, just to cash in the $5 they pay you, who’s gonna agree to that? Old people on fixed incomes who NEED the cash. Jericho fans are far more educated and probably have more financial resources and CBS should be catering to them really. At least, the advertisers should be. 1 Jericho fan equals about 3 CSI fans.
Cancel CSI, see how many of the old farts that watch that will get off their plastic covered couches to send in blood splattered sheets to resurrect their show.
That’s just silly, Smarty. Nielsen bases its panel entirely on the estimates of how many people in each age, sex, financial, education, etc there are so that it mirrors the actual population.
I’m sure it’s not a perfect mirror, but I’m equally sure that a.) the advertisers also know yout or they wouldn’t pay advertising based on that data and b.) 1 Jericho fan does not equal 3 CSI fans.
And by the way, CSI in outrageous fashion has more 18-49 year olds watching than Jericho even reruns of CSI have more “young” viewers. Look it up!
CBS does skew older though, but that’s not Nielsen’s fault.
I take it you still think Nielsen’s works. We have only their word for it, and any word they give isn’t going to put themselves in a bad light. Nielsen’s is a monopoly not unlike Microsoft was back in the day, and the suits there have orchestrated contracts and such so that no one else can get in. The crux of the matter is this: do the suits at Nielsen have integrity? I have my doubts. But then, with Nielsen, long before I ever heard of Jericho, I always had my doubts about Nielsen. They can “say” whatever they want about who watched what, but whether it’s the truth is anyone’s guess.
I agree Nielsen is a de facto monopoly. I believe what I believe doesn’t matter to the market any more than what you believe. I already spoke my piece/peace on this subject here.
well, I guess I’m not getting at our “beliefs”, it’s more in the words you use. That we use. We say “such and such a show had so many viewers”. Well, actually we have no idea. Nielsen told us that. It should be, “Nielsen says that there are 5.9 million viewers 18-49″. Who cares about what you believe? All that matters is what Nielsen says. Your whole operation is based on what Nielsen “says”.
Which means, of course, that your whole operation is quite possibly based on lies, and in the end is a web site about the misinformation Nielsen puts out to keep the dough coming in. To report Nielsen’s “ratings” as though Nielsen is beyond reproach is ludicrous.
Basically your web site and Nielsen’s work together to give us the internet version of WWF Wrestling. Looks real but it isn’t. But it’s entertaining. Nobody has any idea at all how many people watch anything. Nielsen pretends they do, and it’s lucrative, so they want to keep that facade going as long as they can. They’ve climbed into bed with the networks and everyone has a tacit agreement to admire the emperor’s new clothes because there’s a LOT of money to be made. The whole thing is a farce really.
David, I’m certainly not a Nielsen apologist, and I’d love to see a true competitor that measured the whole television universe (rather than merely portions of it). If you have better data to provide, please point me to it. What’s that you say? It doesn’t exist? oh well.
If nobody has any idea of how many people watch anything, then neither do you. But unlike you, I’m involved in a blog reporting on television metrics, so what would you have me do, not comment on the Nielsen ratings?? Would you have the USA Today and the New York Times not do that either?
What’s the worst case scenario? Shows that don’t have enough viewers according to Nielsen don’t get brought back by the networks buying the Nielsen data? And something that people get for free…goes away?
David, you’re not even close to the first Nielsen conspiracy theorist to visit, but I’d say you’re the most entertaining to have visited recently.
What’s more likely:
1. Nielsen has a measurement system that while imperfect is the generally agreed upon metric that the TV networks [sellers] and advertisers [buyers] have agreed to use until something better comes along.
2. Nielsen, the networks, the advertisers [against their will or unknowingly?] are part of a huge carefully planned conspiracy to fool who into doing what? to take who’s money? to defraud who?
Each other? So, they’re all both criminally clever and stupid at the same time?
The public? When was the last time Nielsen asked you for money? Or NBC? ABC? CBS?
Please readjust your tinfoil hat, it seems to be blocking your vision.
To Angie (from wayyyyyy above)and Robert Seidmen
Fine, Angie, you have a voice of reason, and Robert, you said i’m just a guy who complains… WELL I’M NOT DAMMIT… Jericho was the best show ever (in my opinion) and i’m doing what I can to support it. I try to find the loopholes to maybe give Jericho a very tiny chance of coming back. But at the same time, I
can also enjoy other shows. I never said I think
the ratings are flawed now did I? (although maybe… ya just doing that thing again, dont mind it) But nobody knows what they really are?
So don’t go calling me an idiotic complainer, i’m kust trying to help a show, and you can think what you want, you can think that gossip girl is the light of the tunnel, or CSI, or nielsen for that matter, but don’t go calling me a baby whiner, if there is a problem, i deal with it, don’t go crying like a baby, like alot of you people.
Regarding Secret Talents of the Stars– does anybody know where I can get the AQH (Average Quarterly Hour) ratings?
Just wanted to confirm my theory that although it was abysmal from the get-go, G.Takei ran it into the ground..
What hath Sulu wrought…
nad1, you might try posting on Marc Berman’s site at:
http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451
and see if he, Travis or anyone else has it..
The ratings system is so outdated and worthless. I download 90% of the television I watch. None of those views are counted.