Comments on: Nielsen Ratings Thur, April 10: American Idol Back on Top With Surprise Boot

By: mjo

mjo — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:57:58 +0000

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By: mjo

mjo — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:57:58 +0000

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By: mjo

mjo — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:57:58 +0000

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By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:20:57 +0000

rather than write an 800 word comment, I just did a post instead, including the final Thursday numbers. Off to watch BSG on the DVR...

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:20:57 +0000

rather than write an 800 word comment, I just did a post instead, including the final Thursday numbers.

Off to watch BSG on the DVR...

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:20:57 +0000

rather than write an 800 word comment, I just did a post instead, including the final Thursday numbers.

Off to watch BSG on the DVR...

By: Akira

Akira — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:02:36 +0000

After getting far from the UK-version plot, The Office is much much better. I love CSI but I never watch any episodes twice. When it’s done it’s done. The Office, I never watch any episode less than twice. I think that’s the difference.

By: Akira

Akira — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:02:36 +0000

After getting far from the UK-version plot, The Office is much much better. I love CSI but I never watch any episodes twice. When it's done it's done. The Office, I never watch any episode less than twice. I think that's the difference.

By: Akira

Akira — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 06:02:36 +0000

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:28:34 +0000

I think just the fact that we’re comparing The Office to CSI proves what a success The Office is. Once DVR numbers are factored in, The Office will probably get another boost. And it’s even more impressive considering this is a show that had no business even getting renewed for a 2nd season. (It was pulling a 2.5 in the demo, and about 5 million viewers overall in the first season, excluding the pilot.)

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:28:34 +0000

I think just the fact that we're comparing The Office to CSI proves what a success The Office is. Once DVR numbers are factored in, The Office will probably get another boost. And it's even more impressive considering this is a show that had no business even getting renewed for a 2nd season. (It was pulling a 2.5 in the demo, and about 5 million viewers overall in the first season, excluding the pilot.)

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:28:34 +0000

By: Daniel C

Daniel C — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:48:14 +0000

Yes, yes Robert, we all know how you feel about CBS. I forgive you your narrow minded view of The Office.

While the Office puts in a decent half hour once a week, CSI puts in twice that on Thursdays so CBS can sell its “slightly” higher demo for twice as long.

Furthermore, while The Peacock tries to toss in a few “extended” Office hours throughout the season, CSI has franchised 2 additional hours each week which also rake in the bucks.

While there is no denying that the 18-49s are the most important advertising, total eyes aren’t chopped liver. The Office would have to get like a 20 in the demo to match the CSIs each week.

A hollow victory, indeed.

By: Daniel C

Daniel C — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:48:14 +0000

Yes, yes Robert, we all know how you feel about CBS. I forgive you your narrow minded view of The Office.

While the Office puts in a decent half hour once a week, CSI puts in twice that on Thursdays so CBS can sell its "slightly" higher demo for twice as long.

Furthermore, while The Peacock tries to toss in a few "extended" Office hours throughout the season, CSI has franchised 2 additional hours each week which also rake in the bucks.

While there is no denying that the 18-49s are the most important advertising, total eyes aren't chopped liver. The Office would have to get like a 20 in the demo to match the CSIs each week.

A hollow victory, indeed.

By: Daniel C

Daniel C — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:48:14 +0000

By: Jon V

Jon V — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:27:31 +0000

And Robert, one of your other little favorite handicapping tools (or is it one of mine)… Office is a LOT cheaper to make.

By: Jon V

Jon V — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:27:31 +0000

And Robert, one of your other little favorite handicapping tools (or is it one of mine)… Office is a LOT cheaper to make.

By: Jon V

Jon V — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:27:31 +0000

And Robert, one of your other little favorite handicapping tools (or is it one of mine)… Office is a LOT cheaper to make.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:20:59 +0000

Daniel, The Office *is* a huge success, the people who don’t understand this are…simply people who don’t understand it. I forgive you.

Think of it this way, even though CSI had MORE THAN 100% more viewers overall (116% more viewers, if you want to get technical) in the 18-49 demographic, which really, really is important no matter how much Les Moonves wishes it wasn’t. 14% of all 18-49 year olds watching TV were tuned into CSI and 12% of all of them were tuned into The Office, to make the 18-49 spread so very close with 116% less viewers is pretty HUGE.

Said another way, although The Office trailed CSI in total viewers by 116%, it only trailed in the demo by 18.8%. It’s not just huge, but amazing really.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:20:59 +0000

Daniel, The Office *is* a huge success, the people who don't understand this are...simply people who don't understand it. I forgive you.

Think of it this way, even though CSI had MORE THAN 100% more viewers overall (116% more viewers, if you want to get technical) in the 18-49 demographic, which really, really is important no matter how much Les Moonves wishes it wasn't. 14% of all 18-49 year olds watching TV were tuned into CSI and 12% of all of them were tuned into The Office, to make the 18-49 spread so very close with 116% less viewers is pretty HUGE.

Said another way, although The Office trailed CSI in total viewers by 116%, it only trailed in the demo by 18.8%. It's not just huge, but amazing really.

By: Robert Seidman

Robert Seidman — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:20:59 +0000

By: Daniel C

Daniel C — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:43:20 +0000

I LIKE Eli Stone. Some cute fantasy scenes against a Kelley-esque courtroom drama. I think it would fair well with the Pushing Daisies crowd (a much better show).

ABC is obviously trying very hard to find an audience for this show and I hope it does…but I’m not holding my breath.

Meanwhile NBC fans are again getting desperate if they see The Office as a “huge” success while finishing 3rd overall and 2nd in the demo to a true hit in CSI. For NBC, demos are enough to cheer for their only prime time success.

By: Daniel C

Daniel C — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:43:20 +0000

I LIKE Eli Stone. Some cute fantasy scenes against a Kelley-esque courtroom drama. I think it would fair well with the Pushing Daisies crowd (a much better show).

ABC is obviously trying very hard to find an audience for this show and I hope it does…but I'm not holding my breath.

By: Daniel C

Daniel C — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:43:20 +0000

I LIKE Eli Stone. Some cute fantasy scenes against a Kelley-esque courtroom drama. I think it would fair well with the Pushing Daisies crowd (a much better show).

ABC is obviously trying very hard to find an audience for this show and I hope it does…but I'm not holding my breath.

By: Jon V

Jon V — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:31:30 +0000

I LOVE Eli Stone… meant a so-so episode (gay monkeys not the best topic for a show on the bubble).

Up against return of established ER and WOT… really not bad numbers. Bad slot.

This Sunday should be the breakthrough with a NEW Eathquake ep following a NEW ep of the Teri Hatcher Show (DWH).

Looking for Eli to go forward (and seeing that ABC is giving it it’s No.1 hit as a lead-in) makes me think it will be back as one of those sleeper hits that really comes into its own in season 2.

It’s already there for me