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| Total Viewers (million) | 14.39 | 11.39 | 7.80 | 6.87 | 2.72 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 | 4.1/11 | 4.4/12 | 2.3/6 | 3.0/8 | 1.3/3 |
An all-original Thursday night was back to kick off the May Sweeps. No repeats! But the thing with sweeps is this is just more legacy television 1980s thinking. Change does not come easy to these folks and the reality these days seems to be that trying to win the sweeps is about as important as trying to win the NFL Pro Bowl.
As is typically the case in a no repeats Thursday, CBS wins the most viewers but ABC wins the 18-49 demographic. NBC was fourth overall but third in the demo.
That might have been the BEST LOST EVER! I could have done without seeing Ben puke in crystal clear high definition, but loved it otherwise from beginning to end. LOST actually improved over its 9pm performance one month ago when it had 11.46m viewers and a 4.6 in the demo. Last night it had 12.33m and a 4.8/13 in the demo. I can’t remember if Grey’s Anatomy carried over into the 10pm hour by a couple of minutes though, and if so, LOST’s final numbers will be down a little from those reported here. Update 11:15AM PDT: Medialife Magazine is reporting LOST had a 5.5 rating in the 18-49 demo and I tend to think this is the more accurate number. I’ll do another update when I see the finals later.
Update: 11:26AM PDT: Travis Yanan confirms that LOST did indeed pull a 5.5 in the 18-49 demo in the overnights and notes that it picked up men 18-49 as it went along and didn’t lose much in the second half hour. He suggests that when the couple of minutes of Grey’s overrun is filtered out in the finals that it may have actually grown in key demos in the second half hour. I enjoyed this episode so much I may have to go back and watch it again!
The Office didn’t do as well as it did last week when there was no Grey’s Anatomy, and a repeat of CSI. It still pulled a 3.9 in the 18-49 demo, but that’s more than 20% off last week’s demo performance.
Grey’s lost out to CSI in terms of total viewers, but as typical kicked CSI’s butt in the demo — though CSI itself had very good demo numbers too, Grey’s demo performance was about 36% better. Marc Berman notes that the numbers for Grey’s and CSI are both off significantly versus last year’s comparable airings. CSI was down 16% overall and 22% in the demo, and Grey’s was off 20% overall and 25% in the demo. Ouch. Some of this will however be made up for with live plus seven day DVR viewing. And OK, I’ll say it – Internet viewing. Both the legal and the illegal variety.
But our friend Berman also says “One look at Scrubs and there is absolutely no reason for ABC to potentially be putting this on its schedule next season.” All it takes is one look at this, to know Marc is wrong and that if ABC put it on somewhere besides Thursday night’s (perhaps as a replacement for According to Jim) it’s still capable of pulling really good 18-49 demo numbers. Out of six shows airing from 8pm-9pm it was still third in the 18-49 demo. I’d say that merits a look!
Berman is also a total flip-flopper on The Office. He goes from “it will never be a break out hit” to “I loved last night’s episode” to “this show’s problem is it has no likable characters” to “I really enjoyed last night’s episode.”
Marc, don’t you realize there are people who actually see your comments in their overall context and that your writing isn’t viewed as just “point in time”? Speaking of which, I may yet wind up flip-flopping in a major way concerning the Gossip Girl and that will be way more painful for me than reading Marc’s analysis.
The ratings for our pals “Sam & Dean” on Supernatural…languished.
Thursday night’s details:
| Time | Network | Show | Viewers (Millons) | 18-49 Rating/Share | HH Rating |
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| 8:00 | CBS | Survivor: Micronesia | 12.98 | 4.2/13 | 6.9 |
| FOX | Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader | 8.32 | 2.1/6 | 5.3 | |
| ABC | Ugly Betty | 8.52 | 2.5/8 | 6.4 | |
| NBC | My Name is Earl | 6.06 | 2.3/7 | 4.3 | |
| CW | Smallville | 3.56 | 1.4/4 | 2.7 | |
| 8:30 | NBC | Scrubs | 5.3 | 2.4/7 | 3.7 |
| 9:00 | CBS | CSI | 16.74 | 4.6/11 | 11.4 |
| FOX | Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader | 8.95 | 2.5/6 | 5.5 | |
| ABC | Greys Anatomy | 16.02 | 6.3/16 | 10.3 | |
| NBC | The Office | 7.56 | 3.9/10 | 4.8 | |
| CW | Supernatural | 2.27 | 1.0/2 | 1.8 | |
| 9:30 | NBC | 30 Rock | 5.54 | 2.8/7 | 3.8 |
| 10:00 | CBS | Without a Trace | 13.5 | 3.3/9 | 9.6 |
| ABC | LOST | 12.33 | 4.8/13 | 7.4 | |
| NBC | ER | 7.35 | 2.9/8 | 5.7 |
Nielsen Ratings Source: Nielsen Media Research. Full night’s results available via Marc Berman/Mediaweek.
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LOST was amazing last night. Ouch for Grey’s, CSI and 30 Rock.
I don’t usually watch CSI and Grey’s but i love 30 Rock and Tina Fey.
LOST was amazing last night. Ouch for Grey's, CSI and 30 Rock.
I don't usually watch CSI and Grey's but i love 30 Rock and Tina Fey.
I absolutely love Supernatural, but I’m surprised that last nights episode had as many viewers as it did. That episode wasn’t worthy of the actors or the fans. (Note to the CW, leave it off the DVD’s and pretend it never happened.)
I wonder how many viewers bailed at the half-hour mark? Any chance of finding out?
I absolutely love Supernatural, but I'm surprised that last nights episode had as many viewers as it did. That episode wasn't worthy of the actors or the fans. (Note to the CW, leave it off the DVD's and pretend it never happened.)
I wonder how many viewers bailed at the half-hour mark? Any chance of finding out?
Hey Robert Seidman,
Why do u always post the Survivor ratings wrong?. The ratings for last night’s episode is 7.9 and NOT 6.9…and i always see every week the ratings for SURVIVOR is always lower than what it should be.
No offence, I suppose you are NOT a fan of Survivor or just a miscalculation.
BTW, another BIG blindside at yersterday’s episode of SURVIVOR.
Hey Robert Seidman,
Why do u always post the Survivor ratings wrong?. The ratings for last night's episode is 7.9 and NOT 6.9…and i always see every week the ratings for SURVIVOR is always lower than what it should be.
No offence, I suppose you are NOT a fan of Survivor or just a miscalculation.
BTW, another BIG blindside at yersterday's episode of SURVIVOR.
Polly, I’ll see if I can dig anything up…
Polly, I'll see if I can dig anything up…
Jessie, I do not post them wrong, I just post from the data source (a daily e-mail from Berman). I got my numbers here:
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp
it’s still showing a 6.9/12 one of the problems is that there are a couple of variations of the overnights, and I am just posting the first one I see and it’s easier for me to use Berman’s numbers because if a show is 90 minutes, I can get the 90 minute HH rating, on Zap2it and other services I can’t.
Jessie, I do not post them wrong, I just post from the data source (a daily e-mail from Berman). I got my numbers here:
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/progins...
it's still showing a 6.9/12 one of the problems is that there are a couple of variations of the overnights, and I am just posting the first one I see and it's easier for me to use Berman's numbers because if a show is 90 minutes, I can get the 90 minute HH rating, on Zap2it and other services I can't.
Hey Robert Seidman,
I also look at mediaweek and only the Survivor ratings are always posted lower than what it should be.
No offence, do you notice that when the weekly ratings are out at every tuesday by Nielsen Media…The Survivor Ratings are always higher than what the numbers you put up at the overnight nielsen ratings section.
I look at zap2it and nielsen media research…They posted the Survivor ratings as 7.9…and i think that mediaweek is not exactly accurate…
Why don’t we see next tuesday and wait for the weekly ratings by nielsen and see the ratings for last night SURVIVOR episode?…
Hey Robert Seidman,
I also look at mediaweek and only the Survivor ratings are always posted lower than what it should be.
No offence, do you notice that when the weekly ratings are out at every tuesday by Nielsen Media…The Survivor Ratings are always higher than what the numbers you put up at the overnight nielsen ratings section.
I look at zap2it and nielsen media research…They posted the Survivor ratings as 7.9…and i think that mediaweek is not exactly accurate…
Why don't we see next tuesday and wait for the weekly ratings by nielsen and see the ratings for last night SURVIVOR episode?…
Jessie, you’re getting all the ratings info you need then. Again, I do not know that the numbers are always incorrect, but think rather that they’re always lower in the fast affiliate report. We post the weekly numbers (correctly) and the “final” numbers will be available before Tuesday.
If MediaWeek WHICH IS OWNED BY NIELSEN doesn’t feel obliged to update the fast affiliate numbers with the more updated overnight numbers in its report, nor do I. It’s not a slam on Survivor, but I’m not going to change the way the reports are produced.
Jessie, you're getting all the ratings info you need then. Again, I do not know that the numbers are always incorrect, but think rather that they're always lower in the fast affiliate report. We post the weekly numbers (correctly) and the “final” numbers will be available before Tuesday.
If MediaWeek WHICH IS OWNED BY NIELSEN doesn't feel obliged to update the fast affiliate numbers with the more updated overnight numbers in its report, nor do I. It's not a slam on Survivor, but I'm not going to change the way the reports are produced.
Robert Seidman, I am grateful for the reports that you take time to post them…Thanks.
Robert Seidman, I am grateful for the reports that you take time to post them…Thanks.
Robert – Thanks! Was WAT down from last year as well?
Oh and once again Supernatural was awful last night! Thanks writers, apparently that strike was put to good use in the creativity department.
Robert – Thanks! Was WAT down from last year as well?
Oh and once again Supernatural was awful last night! Thanks writers, apparently that strike was put to good use in the creativity department.
Jessie, you’re welcome and thank you.
Polly, WAT wasn’t in the Thursday night lineup on 4/26/07. Would you believe it if I told you SHARK was, and had 14.1 million viewers and 5.03m 18-49 year olds?
I can’t believe it myself — but it really happened!
Jessie, you're welcome and thank you.
Polly, WAT wasn't in the Thursday night lineup on 4/26/07. Would you believe it if I told you SHARK was, and had 14.1 million viewers and 5.03m 18-49 year olds?
I can't believe it myself — but it really happened!
I absolutely LOVED last night’s episode, but I already new that the numbers would be iffy even before it aired. Kripke warned the fans that you would either hate it or love it, and I ABSOLUTELY loved it, while others did not. Though, it seems as if the numbers for other shows were low as well…maybe people don’t know their favorite shows have returned?
I absolutely LOVED last night's episode, but I already new that the numbers would be iffy even before it aired. Kripke warned the fans that you would either hate it or love it, and I ABSOLUTELY loved it, while others did not. Though, it seems as if the numbers for other shows were low as well…maybe people don't know their favorite shows have returned?
futon critic has lost with a 5.5 in the demo, holding 87% of grey’s lead-in. dont know which numbers are more acurate.
they also have csi at a 10.5, not at 11.4. so i guess we’ll have to wait and see the official numbers later on.
but for 30 rock (which was incredibly funny last night) it got a 3rd season so lets not even worry about these numbers this year.
futon critic has lost with a 5.5 in the demo, holding 87% of grey's lead-in. dont know which numbers are more acurate.
they also have csi at a 10.5, not at 11.4. so i guess we'll have to wait and see the official numbers later on.
but for 30 rock (which was incredibly funny last night) it got a 3rd season so lets not even worry about these numbers this year.
I know how to fix this problem. I’m going to stop reporting HH Rating info in the overnight reports. Problem solved!
But the thing with LOST’s numbers in the 18-49 is disconcerting…Medialife Magazine (which I’m sure the FutonCritic got his data from — though I didn’t look at his site) is also reporting a 5.5 in the demo for LOST. I’m guessing that *is* the more accurate number but I’ll see for sure later when finals are produced.
I know how to fix this problem. I'm going to stop reporting HH Rating info in the overnight reports. Problem solved!
But the thing with LOST's numbers in the 18-49 is disconcerting…Medialife Magazine (which I'm sure the FutonCritic got his data from — though I didn't look at his site) is also reporting a 5.5 in the demo for LOST. I'm guessing that *is* the more accurate number but I'll see for sure later when finals are produced.
“Seidman” are you intentionally trying to make Berman-Verman look smart? “Scrubs” placed NBC “third” in the demo? Sounds like a winner if you are “The CW” not the once mighty NBC…whose goal is to be a number one network again…at least thats what they tell G.E. stockholders…time to put Scrubs to bed along with Jim Belushi’s crud, etc. Now if you cant develop great new scripted dramas and sitcoms then sure…keep rehashing “Scrubs”…so maybe you’re right…ABC sounds like a perfect fit for Zack “Mr. Ed – horse face” Braff and company.
“Seidman” are you intentionally trying to make Berman-Verman look smart? “Scrubs” placed NBC “third” in the demo? Sounds like a winner if you are “The CW” not the once mighty NBC…whose goal is to be a number one network again…at least thats what they tell G.E. stockholders…time to put Scrubs to bed along with Jim Belushi's crud, etc. Now if you cant develop great new scripted dramas and sitcoms then sure…keep rehashing “Scrubs”…so maybe you're right…ABC sounds like a perfect fit for Zack “Mr. Ed – horse face” Braff and company.
LOST was outstanding last night. Season 3 was a bit uneven, but this season they seemed to have gotten it right again. 12 million viewers at 10pm is pretty darn good.
ER should be put out to pasture – LOST may end up crushing the remaining life out of that show. ER jumped the shark years ago when Noah Wiley phoned it in from Darfur.
LOST was outstanding last night. Season 3 was a bit uneven, but this season they seemed to have gotten it right again. 12 million viewers at 10pm is pretty darn good.
ER should be put out to pasture – LOST may end up crushing the remaining life out of that show. ER jumped the shark years ago when Noah Wiley phoned it in from Darfur.
The Truth, up against lesser competition last week Scrubs was 13th out of 250ish shows in the 18-49 demo. If it’s not expensive to make and can pull over a 3 in the demo in a different slot, I’d absolutely think about it.
Scrubs’ overall numbers were indeed bleh, but it outperformed My Name is Earl in the 18-49 demo with fewer total viewers against tougher competition than Earl faced. And NBC is keeping Earl.
If this makes me look stupid in your eyes, I will have to let the sun reflect off my bald head and blind you with glare to distract you
The Truth, up against lesser competition last week Scrubs was 13th out of 250ish shows in the 18-49 demo. If it's not expensive to make and can pull over a 3 in the demo in a different slot, I'd absolutely think about it.
Scrubs' overall numbers were indeed bleh, but it outperformed My Name is Earl in the 18-49 demo with fewer total viewers against tougher competition than Earl faced. And NBC is keeping Earl.
If this makes me look stupid in your eyes, I will have to let the sun reflect off my bald head and blind you with glare to distract you
Poly: here are the half hourly breakouts for Supernatural (thanks to Travis Yanan, again!):
9pm
- 2.473 million viewers
- 1.6/2 HH
- 1.0/3 A18-49
- 1.0/3 A18-34
9:30pm
- 2.069 million viewers
- 1.3/2 HH
- 0.9/2 A18-49
- 0.8/2 A18-34
So about 16% bailed.
Poly: here are the half hourly breakouts for Supernatural (thanks to Travis Yanan, again!):
9pm
- 2.473 million viewers
- 1.6/2 HH
- 1.0/3 A18-49
- 1.0/3 A18-34
9:30pm
- 2.069 million viewers
- 1.3/2 HH
- 0.9/2 A18-49
- 0.8/2 A18-34
So about 16% bailed.
Robert – Please don’t throw out the baby with the bath water.
The HH numbers are very important to me (that’s how and why I started coming here in the first place).
Just make people aware that they are subject to change (unless we can figure out exactly how they come up with the HH – in which case just ‘divulge’ the equation and I’ll crunch my own numbers).
I do see where the HH’s for Lost and WOT seem way out of whack considering the 18/49 and share numbers.
Is it based on advertising dollars per minute in certain age groups or do the networks and sponsors get together to decide what they think a show is worth?
Robert – Please don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
The HH numbers are very important to me (that's how and why I started coming here in the first place).
Just make people aware that they are subject to change (unless we can figure out exactly how they come up with the HH – in which case just 'divulge' the equation and I'll crunch my own numbers).
I do see where the HH's for Lost and WOT seem way out of whack considering the 18/49 and share numbers.
Is it based on advertising dollars per minute in certain age groups or do the networks and sponsors get together to decide what they think a show is worth?
Robert – Thanks again! Wow, how did Shark go from that to being “on the bubble” for pick up? If I were the networks I would be concerned about the fact that they seem to be bleeding viewers. Maybe if they would quite picking up their favorites that no one is watching (Lipstick Jungle anyone?, etc.) they might be able to slow it down a little.
Nessa – I think the reason I hated it besides the completely stupid plot was that the writers wrote that episode for themselves not the fans. If you want to play on someone else’s dime then do it when you have a full season, not when you are coming back from a strike with only four shows to go. It also played into all the critics gripes about the show. (Okay, rant over back to the numbers!)
Robert – Thanks again! Wow, how did Shark go from that to being “on the bubble” for pick up? If I were the networks I would be concerned about the fact that they seem to be bleeding viewers. Maybe if they would quite picking up their favorites that no one is watching (Lipstick Jungle anyone?, etc.) they might be able to slow it down a little.
Nessa – I think the reason I hated it besides the completely stupid plot was that the writers wrote that episode for themselves not the fans. If you want to play on someone else's dime then do it when you have a full season, not when you are coming back from a strike with only four shows to go. It also played into all the critics gripes about the show. (Okay, rant over back to the numbers!)
p.s. – (***EARL & SCRUBS SPOILERS***)
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Earl came out of his coma at the end of last night’s show which should return a number of alienated viewers.
Dr. Kelso said good-bye to the show last night and it appears that Dr. Cox will become the new Chief of Medicine – don’t know if that’s good or bad for the show. Most of us liked ‘Coxie’ right where he was.
p.s. – (***EARL & SCRUBS SPOILERS***)
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Earl came out of his coma at the end of last night's show which should return a number of alienated viewers.
Dr. Kelso said good-bye to the show last night and it appears that Dr. Cox will become the new Chief of Medicine – don't know if that's good or bad for the show. Most of us liked 'Coxie' right where he was.
Jon V, the 18-49 numbers (even though today’s were incorrect for LOST) are also from data that comes out later than the fast affiliate. Marc could post the updated HH info along with those, but he does not. I think what he’s trying to do with his morning newsletter is get the early number out there.
As for the HH info — admit it, you’re still going to Zap2it anyway, right? I am not trying to be first, but if I wait until the viewer and 18-49 numbers AND the Zap HH data is published, I will be publishing later than I already am. I don’t see the upside.
I see 95% of the value of these posts being putting the #s in a table that’s very easy to scan and 5% on the analysis — and that may even be giving myself too much credit.
The HH ratings numbers reported here being subject to change would be one thing — but they ALWAYS change. Usually not by much, but they do always change. Given that, do you really see value in including them here?
Jon V, the 18-49 numbers (even though today's were incorrect for LOST) are also from data that comes out later than the fast affiliate. Marc could post the updated HH info along with those, but he does not. I think what he's trying to do with his morning newsletter is get the early number out there.
As for the HH info — admit it, you're still going to Zap2it anyway, right? I am not trying to be first, but if I wait until the viewer and 18-49 numbers AND the Zap HH data is published, I will be publishing later than I already am. I don't see the upside.
I see 95% of the value of these posts being putting the #s in a table that's very easy to scan and 5% on the analysis — and that may even be giving myself too much credit.
The HH ratings numbers reported here being subject to change would be one thing — but they ALWAYS change. Usually not by much, but they do always change. Given that, do you really see value in including them here?
Robert – Didn’t see the Supernatural numbers before my previous post. Thanks! I’m surprised it was only 16%. Hopefully next week will be better.
Thetruthhurts – Could we please stop with the personal attacks? If you disagree with their opinions fine, but pointing out your observations on their appearance doesn’t help your argument. (Saying this in the nicest possible way and with all due respect.)
Robert – Didn't see the Supernatural numbers before my previous post. Thanks! I'm surprised it was only 16%. Hopefully next week will be better.
Thetruthhurts – Could we please stop with the personal attacks? If you disagree with their opinions fine, but pointing out your observations on their appearance doesn't help your argument. (Saying this in the nicest possible way and with all due respect.)
Polly, if I were the networks I would be really concerned too!!
And I wonder especially among 12-34 year olds whether there isn’t actually a whole lot more Internet viewing going on that doesn’t get captured by ANYONE because it’s happening OUTSIDE of the network’s own web sites and iTunes and cannot be measured. I always knew this would be a problem, but I am beginning to wonder if it is already more pervasive than we thought.
One key piece of data I don’t have is the PUT last night at 9pm vs. the same night a year ago. If the number of people watching television was the same, we can then fairly attribute all of the bleed of broadcast network television to cable networks. But if it’s smaller, we’d have to attribute at least some of it to…something else.
Polly, if I were the networks I would be really concerned too!!
And I wonder especially among 12-34 year olds whether there isn't actually a whole lot more Internet viewing going on that doesn't get captured by ANYONE because it's happening OUTSIDE of the network's own web sites and iTunes and cannot be measured. I always knew this would be a problem, but I am beginning to wonder if it is already more pervasive than we thought.
One key piece of data I don't have is the PUT last night at 9pm vs. the same night a year ago. If the number of people watching television was the same, we can then fairly attribute all of the bleed of broadcast network television to cable networks. But if it's smaller, we'd have to attribute at least some of it to…something else.
Robert – I don’t know if it is just limited to the 12-34 demo. I know that this year I’ve started viewing a lot more TV online than I ever had. It is just a lot more convenient and less commercials. (you would think they would pay attention to the hits on youtube for their shows as an indicator of interest though)
(Not to be picky, but you’ve dropped one of the l’s in my name, makes me think of an icky fabric now.)
Robert – I don't know if it is just limited to the 12-34 demo. I know that this year I've started viewing a lot more TV online than I ever had. It is just a lot more convenient and less commercials. (you would think they would pay attention to the hits on youtube for their shows as an indicator of interest though)
(Not to be picky, but you've dropped one of the l's in my name, makes me think of an icky fabric now.)
Polly, when it comes to YOUR name, you may be as picky as you want. I am fairly picky about my preference for Robert to Bob, and my brother Steve is fairly picky about being called Steve instead of Steven.
I don’t find it incredibly picky! I gave you your extra L back!
Polly, when it comes to YOUR name, you may be as picky as you want. I am fairly picky about my preference for Robert to Bob, and my brother Steve is fairly picky about being called Steve instead of Steven.
I don't find it incredibly picky! I gave you your extra L back!
I also loved last night’s episode of SUPERNATURAL. It once again proved its the most versatile show on tv. One week it’s hilarious. Another week terrifying. Then an episode that’s heart wrenching. Many times its a combination of all three. And it does each genre really well. I give them an A+ for keeping the show fresh and completely original.
I also loved last night's episode of SUPERNATURAL. It once again proved its the most versatile show on tv. One week it's hilarious. Another week terrifying. Then an episode that's heart wrenching. Many times its a combination of all three. And it does each genre really well. I give them an A+ for keeping the show fresh and completely original.
I liked the concept of last nights Supernatural. A mix between the Blair Witch/Cloverfield and the Office. However everything is explained at the end which I didn’t like unlike BW and Cloverfield.
I liked the concept of last nights Supernatural. A mix between the Blair Witch/Cloverfield and the Office. However everything is explained at the end which I didn't like unlike BW and Cloverfield.
Robert – Thanks for the correction.
Robert – Thanks for the correction.
Polly: I understand where you’re coming from, I just don’t think that’s what they were trying to do. They were honestly making it a show that took all those lame stereotypes about reality shows, the Blair Witch Project, Ghost Hunters, and expectations of SN and making it ridiculous in a funny way that people could tell it was a spoof. But I get that people don’t like that type of thing, and you’re either in or your out. Personally, I never cared for the episode Tall Tales in season 2, but after a while, I realized it was pretty good, just an aquired feeling.
Matt: See, that’s what I think of last night’s show. It was nice to have something fresh and original that they haven’t done before, and when you watch the entire season 3 as a whole, you can also see that it’s a much needed comedic break.
Polly: I understand where you're coming from, I just don't think that's what they were trying to do. They were honestly making it a show that took all those lame stereotypes about reality shows, the Blair Witch Project, Ghost Hunters, and expectations of SN and making it ridiculous in a funny way that people could tell it was a spoof. But I get that people don't like that type of thing, and you're either in or your out. Personally, I never cared for the episode Tall Tales in season 2, but after a while, I realized it was pretty good, just an aquired feeling.
Matt: See, that's what I think of last night's show. It was nice to have something fresh and original that they haven't done before, and when you watch the entire season 3 as a whole, you can also see that it's a much needed comedic break.
Nessa – I understand the spoof idea (and what they were spoofing), I just think that they wasted an opportunity to win over viewers that might have started watching during the strike. (I also think that as far as spoofs go, this was a bad one.) In case anyone wonders I think Supernatural is great (just not last night and 16% of the viewers seemed to agree. Unfortunately for the CW they need all the viewers they can get and this didn’t help.)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Nessa – I understand the spoof idea (and what they were spoofing), I just think that they wasted an opportunity to win over viewers that might have started watching during the strike. (I also think that as far as spoofs go, this was a bad one.) In case anyone wonders I think Supernatural is great (just not last night and 16% of the viewers seemed to agree. Unfortunately for the CW they need all the viewers they can get and this didn't help.)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Supernatural’s ratings were down because it really wasn’t a “Supernatural” episode. It was more like an introduction to another show called Ghostfacers, compliments of Supernatural. If you didn’t know better, just watching the first half hour- was like; they put something else on! where is Supernatural? then finally we see Dean and Sam, for about 15 minutes after the half hour it was Supernatural-like, then we get Ghostfacers again. Then two more minutes of Dean and Sam at the end. So we wait one more week to see an actual episode of Supernatural. Three more eps. is not as good as four but that’s ok. Man what were they thinking, we wanted to watch Supernatural, not Ghostfacers. For new people who saw this episode, please watch next week, this is not a typical example of Supernatural.
Supernatural's ratings were down because it really wasn't a “Supernatural” episode. It was more like an introduction to another show called Ghostfacers, compliments of Supernatural. If you didn't know better, just watching the first half hour- was like; they put something else on! where is Supernatural? then finally we see Dean and Sam, for about 15 minutes after the half hour it was Supernatural-like, then we get Ghostfacers again. Then two more minutes of Dean and Sam at the end. So we wait one more week to see an actual episode of Supernatural. Three more eps. is not as good as four but that's ok. Man what were they thinking, we wanted to watch Supernatural, not Ghostfacers. For new people who saw this episode, please watch next week, this is not a typical example of Supernatural.
Personally, I liked the Supernatural episode last night just fine – I thought it was quirky and fun and a nice little light episode before what I’m sure is going to be three gut-twisting episodes for the rest of this season (jut like Hollywood Babylon last year, if y’all will recall…) – and I’m shocked at these ratings.
Could the fact that the CW programming was pre-empted in Chicago due to the White Sox game be to blame for part of it? And is there any way to find out if it was pre-empted on other major affiliates? I know that pre-emption can’t be to blame for how badly it performed by itself – that there were other factors, including know doubt confusion over “wtf is this and where are Sam and Dean?” by some viewers and disinterest in others – but still I’d like to know how great an impact pre-emptions had on the numbers.
Personally, I liked the Supernatural episode last night just fine – I thought it was quirky and fun and a nice little light episode before what I'm sure is going to be three gut-twisting episodes for the rest of this season (jut like Hollywood Babylon last year, if y'all will recall…) – and I'm shocked at these ratings.
Could the fact that the CW programming was pre-empted in Chicago due to the White Sox game be to blame for part of it? And is there any way to find out if it was pre-empted on other major affiliates? I know that pre-emption can't be to blame for how badly it performed by itself – that there were other factors, including know doubt confusion over “wtf is this and where are Sam and Dean?” by some viewers and disinterest in others – but still I'd like to know how great an impact pre-emptions had on the numbers.
I was really glad to go on Variety.com and see that LOST’s 18-49 was actually a 5.5. Which is higher than the last two episodes it had at 9 O’Clock. As long as it has a good lead in like Grey’s it should do fine at 10. And I guess it really doesn’t matter what it does during the finale since it will fall out of the Nielsen season and May sweeps.
I was really glad to go on Variety.com and see that LOST's 18-49 was actually a 5.5. Which is higher than the last two episodes it had at 9 O'Clock. As long as it has a good lead in like Grey's it should do fine at 10. And I guess it really doesn't matter what it does during the finale since it will fall out of the Nielsen season and May sweeps.
30 ROCK IS THE WORST SHOW EVER.ANYONE WHO THINKS ITS GOOD IS A IDIOT.
30 ROCK IS THE WORST SHOW EVER.ANYONE WHO THINKS ITS GOOD IS A IDIOT.
NBC IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT STATION EVER.
NBC IS THE BIGGEST IDIOT STATION EVER.
Well, I like 30 Rock and think it’s a good show, so i guess that makes me an idiot.
At least I’m an idiot who knows how to turn off caps lock on my keyboard.
Well, I like 30 Rock and think it's a good show, so i guess that makes me an idiot.
At least I'm an idiot who knows how to turn off caps lock on my keyboard.
lol at Tony.
+ 1 to Jack.
Anyway, I agree with Polly. Supernatural last night was disappointing. I think it’s time Ben Edlund (who wrote Ghostfacers, and also created Bela) needs to start writing a LOT less. He’s simply not as talented as writers like Jeremy Carver (who wrote Mystery Spot).
I’m actually somewhat glad that only 2.27 tuned in. It’s a clear indication to the writers that episodes like this aren’t as appreciated as episodes like Mystery Spot, or Dream a Little Dream of Me, etc.
Next week the ratings should go up, Long Distance Caller looks superb. And Edlund didn’t write it.
lol at Tony.
+ 1 to Jack.
Anyway, I agree with Polly. Supernatural last night was disappointing. I think it's time Ben Edlund (who wrote Ghostfacers, and also created Bela) needs to start writing a LOT less. He's simply not as talented as writers like Jeremy Carver (who wrote Mystery Spot).
I'm actually somewhat glad that only 2.27 tuned in. It's a clear indication to the writers that episodes like this aren't as appreciated as episodes like Mystery Spot, or Dream a Little Dream of Me, etc.
Next week the ratings should go up, Long Distance Caller looks superb. And Edlund didn't write it.
I loved Thursday night’s episode of “Supernatural”. It was quirky with lots of laugh out loud moments. Sure the first 10-15 minutes with no Sam or Dean was torture, but after they showed up, things were great. The ghost was appropriately spooky, icky, and nasty. As Dean said–visiting Morton House was their Grand Canyon.
Sad to see the lower ratings.
I loved Thursday night's episode of “Supernatural”. It was quirky with lots of laugh out loud moments. Sure the first 10-15 minutes with no Sam or Dean was torture, but after they showed up, things were great. The ghost was appropriately spooky, icky, and nasty. As Dean said–visiting Morton House was their Grand Canyon.
Sad to see the lower ratings.
I agree with VSgroi. I liked Ghostfacers (GF). I understand why people might not like it because of its timing in the shortened season, but it was funny and creepy (think Sammy in the birthday hat!).
Andy, I disagree about Ben Edlund. I do like Jeremy Carver’s stuff, but Ben Edlund’s previous episodes have been good. In addition to GF, he wrote Malleus Maleficarum, Bad Day at Black Rock (great physical comedy in this one), Hollywood Babylon, Nightshifter (an AWESOME episode which introduced Agent Henricksen), and Simon Said.
I agree with VSgroi. I liked Ghostfacers (GF). I understand why people might not like it because of its timing in the shortened season, but it was funny and creepy (think Sammy in the birthday hat!).
Andy, I disagree about Ben Edlund. I do like Jeremy Carver's stuff, but Ben Edlund's previous episodes have been good. In addition to GF, he wrote Malleus Maleficarum, Bad Day at Black Rock (great physical comedy in this one), Hollywood Babylon, Nightshifter (an AWESOME episode which introduced Agent Henricksen), and Simon Said.
Oh Supernatural *sigh* I know last weeks episode wasn’t made of gold but still–the ratings are so disappointing.
Oh Supernatural *sigh* I know last weeks episode wasn't made of gold but still–the ratings are so disappointing.
Andy – Hope you’re right about the ratings going up tonite for Supernatural. Tomorrow will tell the tale.
Andy – Hope you're right about the ratings going up tonite for Supernatural. Tomorrow will tell the tale.