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	<title>Comments on: More Number Noodling On CBS&#8217; &#8216;Flashpoint&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/01/more-number-noodling-on-cbs-flashpoint/4580#comment-22556</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flashpoint has been renewed in Canada, but CBS hasn&#039;t said either way yet. It might depend on how these last two episodes do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flashpoint has been renewed in Canada, but CBS hasn&#8217;t said either way yet. It might depend on how these last two episodes do.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All..   I am curious if the show Flashpoint is coming back on.  Does anyone whether it made back to next season.  I hope they decided to give it a chance to explore its stories.  Please, let me know.  Thanks, TT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All..   I am curious if the show Flashpoint is coming back on.  Does anyone whether it made back to next season.  I hope they decided to give it a chance to explore its stories.  Please, let me know.  Thanks, TT!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you, Holly, though most of the biggest scripted cable shows air exclusively in the summer, seemingly deliberately capitalizing on the vast wasteland of summer fare on the broadcast nets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m with you, Holly, though most of the biggest scripted cable shows air exclusively in the summer, seemingly deliberately capitalizing on the vast wasteland of summer fare on the broadcast nets.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you could argue that pretty much all &quot;reality&quot; TV is scripted, but that&#039;s a whole other discussion ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Summer on broadcast TV is a wasteland of repeats and cheesy reality shows, but it doesn&#039;t have to be. New shows that were aired in the summer were generally burn-offs of shows they didn&#039;t think would make it during the regular season. The cable nets have proven that it is possible to air quality (watchable) scripted series in the summer. The broadcast nets need to follow suit, even if it means starting with a show that gets only &quot;neutral&quot; ratings. If I were CBS, I would keep Flashpoint as a summer-only show and add one or two new shows each summer. Instead of making big announcements about year-round scheduling that turns out to be more reality shows (yes, I&#039;m looking at you NBC), just start premiering a couple of shows a year during the summer, and resist the temptation to move them to the regular season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you could argue that pretty much all &#8220;reality&#8221; TV is scripted, but that&#39;s a whole other discussion <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Summer on broadcast TV is a wasteland of repeats and cheesy reality shows, but it doesn&#39;t have to be. New shows that were aired in the summer were generally burn-offs of shows they didn&#39;t think would make it during the regular season. The cable nets have proven that it is possible to air quality (watchable) scripted series in the summer. The broadcast nets need to follow suit, even if it means starting with a show that gets only &#8220;neutral&#8221; ratings. If I were CBS, I would keep Flashpoint as a summer-only show and add one or two new shows each summer. Instead of making big announcements about year-round scheduling that turns out to be more reality shows (yes, I&#39;m looking at you NBC), just start premiering a couple of shows a year during the summer, and resist the temptation to move them to the regular season.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t tell you the last successful summer show that wasn&#039;t a reality show that made the transition to the regular season.  I suppose one could argue that Hell&#039;s Kitchen is scripted though ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#39;t tell you the last successful summer show that wasn&#39;t a reality show that made the transition to the regular season.  I suppose one could argue that Hell&#39;s Kitchen is scripted though <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought new scripted shows in the summer were extinct on the broadcast nets. When was the last successful summer show on a broadcast net? I see this more as an attempt at starting something new rather than the tail end of something old. Maybe that&#039;s why I&#039;m more forgiving of the lower numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought new scripted shows in the summer were extinct on the broadcast nets. When was the last successful summer show on a broadcast net? I see this more as an attempt at starting something new rather than the tail end of something old. Maybe that&#39;s why I&#39;m more forgiving of the lower numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, again, I don&#039;t think Flashpoints numbers are &quot;bad&quot;, I think it&#039;s neutral, but I think neutral isn&#039;t great.  Though I would concede the total viewer numbers were pretty impressive, if holding the lead-in of a repeat of CSI is something that impresses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as AI vs. DH, I&#039;d knock no show that got a 3.0 or better rating in the 18-49 demo during the regular season.  For the summer, I&#039;d set the bar at 2.0.  You and CBS may both set that bar lower than I.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For CBS, outside of some of its lineup of Monday night repeats (which perform admirably), Big Brother is the only thing that performs well in the demo.  I brought up the scripted vs. unscripted because it seems like *new* scripted shows airing in the summer will be extinct soon on all the broadcast nets unless the bar gets set lower than a 2.0 in the demo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, again, I don&#39;t think Flashpoints numbers are &#8220;bad&#8221;, I think it&#39;s neutral, but I think neutral isn&#39;t great.  Though I would concede the total viewer numbers were pretty impressive, if holding the lead-in of a repeat of CSI is something that impresses.</p>
<p>As far as AI vs. DH, I&#39;d knock no show that got a 3.0 or better rating in the 18-49 demo during the regular season.  For the summer, I&#39;d set the bar at 2.0.  You and CBS may both set that bar lower than I.</p>
<p>For CBS, outside of some of its lineup of Monday night repeats (which perform admirably), Big Brother is the only thing that performs well in the demo.  I brought up the scripted vs. unscripted because it seems like *new* scripted shows airing in the summer will be extinct soon on all the broadcast nets unless the bar gets set lower than a 2.0 in the demo.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/01/more-number-noodling-on-cbs-flashpoint/4580#comment-14954</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t think Flashpoint is doing great, I don&#039;t think its performance is as bad as you seem to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t really see why the fact that the shows that beat it in the demo were reality shows matters. Do you knock Desperate Housewives because American Idol gets better numbers? While I would be quite pleased if the vast majority of &quot;reality&quot; shows got horrible ratings and were canceled (the exceptions mainly being on Discovery), the fact is, they get good ratings, particularly in the demo.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Especially given that this is a co-production (making it significantly cheaper for CBS) and how well it is apparently doing in Canada, I could see this coming back next summer (if it maintains these numbers). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Unless I&#039;m missing a show somewhere, only 3 scripted shows premiered on broadcast networks this summer. Fear Itself never got off the ground. Swingtown has officially bombed (only holding the 1.3 demo from its repeat lead-in last night). Flashpoint has gotten respectable (though not spectacular) ratings so far. If CBS wants to provide real, year-round scheduling, then they need to start somewhere. Flashpoint could work as that starting point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#39;t think Flashpoint is doing great, I don&#39;t think its performance is as bad as you seem to.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t really see why the fact that the shows that beat it in the demo were reality shows matters. Do you knock Desperate Housewives because American Idol gets better numbers? While I would be quite pleased if the vast majority of &#8220;reality&#8221; shows got horrible ratings and were canceled (the exceptions mainly being on Discovery), the fact is, they get good ratings, particularly in the demo.</p>
<p>Especially given that this is a co-production (making it significantly cheaper for CBS) and how well it is apparently doing in Canada, I could see this coming back next summer (if it maintains these numbers). </p>
<p> Unless I&#39;m missing a show somewhere, only 3 scripted shows premiered on broadcast networks this summer. Fear Itself never got off the ground. Swingtown has officially bombed (only holding the 1.3 demo from its repeat lead-in last night). Flashpoint has gotten respectable (though not spectacular) ratings so far. If CBS wants to provide real, year-round scheduling, then they need to start somewhere. Flashpoint could work as that starting point.</p>
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		<title>By: Em</title>
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		<dc:creator>Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I always time shift it too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I always time shift it too!</p>
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