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	<title>Comments on: Cable Beats Broadcast = Man Bites Dog?</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I didn&#039;t say I thought FNC would do 8 million, that&#039;s unlikely. What I do think is likely is they beat NBC, CBS and ABC for the 10-11pm hour on Thursday and possibly Wednesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I didn&#8217;t say I thought FNC would do 8 million, that&#8217;s unlikely. What I do think is likely is they beat NBC, CBS and ABC for the 10-11pm hour on Thursday and possibly Wednesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not as sure.  I get the success of CNN last week: big news, big event, turn on CNN for news. The branding is very effective in terms of a big event or some kind of disaster, but all the other days of the year it doesn&#039;t work out for them. FNC doesn&#039;t seem in that category. Obviously its ratings will be much higher than normal, but if you&#039;re willing to bet on the over/under 8 million for FNC on Thursday 10p-11p, I&#039;ll take the under...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not as sure.  I get the success of CNN last week: big news, big event, turn on CNN for news. The branding is very effective in terms of a big event or some kind of disaster, but all the other days of the year it doesn&#8217;t work out for them. FNC doesn&#8217;t seem in that category. Obviously its ratings will be much higher than normal, but if you&#8217;re willing to bet on the over/under 8 million for FNC on Thursday 10p-11p, I&#8217;ll take the under&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outlander,

I think it&#039;s likely that Fox News beats the broadcast nets for the 10-11pm hour on Thursday, and maybe on Wednesday. We&#039;ll just have to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlander,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s likely that Fox News beats the broadcast nets for the 10-11pm hour on Thursday, and maybe on Wednesday. We&#8217;ll just have to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Outlander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone care to make any predictions as to the ratings performance of Wednesday and Thursday nights of the Republican convention vs. the Democratic convention?

I&#039;m talking two factors here:

1.  The relative performance of Fox News vs. other cable and broadcast networks airing RNC coverage in the 10-11pm timeslots; and

2.  Overall ratings performance of the RNC in the 10-11pm timeslot.

I&#039;ll go on record as predicting that the Republicans will get about 50% of the overall coverage (point 2) as the Democrats, but that Fox News will probably beat out the other cable nets and may beat NBC or CBS&#039;s ratings, too.  I think The Republicans will not get as much coverage because there are new seasons of shows starting up, which will draw viewers away, and because the media as a whole has pushed Obama&#039;s campaign significantly more than McCain&#039;s.  I think the reasons for Fox performing well in a Republican convention are obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone care to make any predictions as to the ratings performance of Wednesday and Thursday nights of the Republican convention vs. the Democratic convention?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking two factors here:</p>
<p>1.  The relative performance of Fox News vs. other cable and broadcast networks airing RNC coverage in the 10-11pm timeslots; and</p>
<p>2.  Overall ratings performance of the RNC in the 10-11pm timeslot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go on record as predicting that the Republicans will get about 50% of the overall coverage (point 2) as the Democrats, but that Fox News will probably beat out the other cable nets and may beat NBC or CBS&#8217;s ratings, too.  I think The Republicans will not get as much coverage because there are new seasons of shows starting up, which will draw viewers away, and because the media as a whole has pushed Obama&#8217;s campaign significantly more than McCain&#8217;s.  I think the reasons for Fox performing well in a Republican convention are obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the reason cable is doing better has nothing to do with who is the &quot;man&quot; or &quot;dog&quot;, but simply that people crave information, and preferably unbiased information.  When NBC got out of the news business and into the dramatic soundbite business, it was that sound &quot;bite&quot; that bit the dog.  Try giving us information, drop your political bias, do some real reporting, (leave the office and find out what is happening, rather than parroting what you glean from the other media).  This endless Obama BS is really tiring.....did you ever question whether he has ANY qualifications?  Did you ever question whether his fascination with wealth redistribution is so close to communism that you can&#039;t tell the difference?   Did you even wonder whether Bill Ayers, who tried to blow up the Pentagon is going to be sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom, or maybe appointed to a high post?  You might be able to get this guy into the Whitehouse and then bear the responsibility for ruining our country.  If you really reported facts, the public might know what you are selling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the reason cable is doing better has nothing to do with who is the &#8220;man&#8221; or &#8220;dog&#8221;, but simply that people crave information, and preferably unbiased information.  When NBC got out of the news business and into the dramatic soundbite business, it was that sound &#8220;bite&#8221; that bit the dog.  Try giving us information, drop your political bias, do some real reporting, (leave the office and find out what is happening, rather than parroting what you glean from the other media).  This endless Obama BS is really tiring&#8230;..did you ever question whether he has ANY qualifications?  Did you ever question whether his fascination with wealth redistribution is so close to communism that you can&#8217;t tell the difference?   Did you even wonder whether Bill Ayers, who tried to blow up the Pentagon is going to be sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom, or maybe appointed to a high post?  You might be able to get this guy into the Whitehouse and then bear the responsibility for ruining our country.  If you really reported facts, the public might know what you are selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but clearly the &quot;big fact&quot; here is that the broadcast channels were airing the same program</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but clearly the &#8220;big fact&#8221; here is that the broadcast channels were airing the same program</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not too much of a stretch to imagine a first run dramatic cable show beating all broadcast competition (mostly rerun, of course) on a given night in the summer.

This summer The Closer has come close to being the top watched prime-time show on a few Mondays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not too much of a stretch to imagine a first run dramatic cable show beating all broadcast competition (mostly rerun, of course) on a given night in the summer.</p>
<p>This summer The Closer has come close to being the top watched prime-time show on a few Mondays.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High School Musical 2 had 17 million plus in its initial airing in August &#039;07. The *combined* big 5 broadcast networks for that Friday night was about 22 million.  So less Friday  Night Smackdown, it did almost as good as the big four combined.  It outperformed each of the broadcast nets that night by a wide margin. That feels like more of a man bites dog situation to me.

There are perhaps many times when a cable show bests *some* of the broadcast net but bettering all of the broadcast seems much rarer.  Aside from MNF and HSM 2,  and now CNN nothing comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High School Musical 2 had 17 million plus in its initial airing in August &#8216;07. The *combined* big 5 broadcast networks for that Friday night was about 22 million.  So less Friday  Night Smackdown, it did almost as good as the big four combined.  It outperformed each of the broadcast nets that night by a wide margin. That feels like more of a man bites dog situation to me.</p>
<p>There are perhaps many times when a cable show bests *some* of the broadcast net but bettering all of the broadcast seems much rarer.  Aside from MNF and HSM 2,  and now CNN nothing comes to mind.</p>
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