Comments on: 2008-9 Broadcast Season Off to A Slow Start http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/30/univision-fox-cw-gain-vs-last-season-nbc-cbs-fall-abc-mixed/5380 Nielsen TV Show Ratings, Data and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:47:18 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Johnthemon http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/30/univision-fox-cw-gain-vs-last-season-nbc-cbs-fall-abc-mixed/5380#comment-25377 Johnthemon Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:00:05 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=5380#comment-25377 wow, CBS is plunging among 18-34 year olds. ABC is really steady looking. Uni and CW are way up, oddly enough. Fox keeps moving up in the world, good for it! I"m really disappointed with NBC's downturn. :( It deserves better. wow, CBS is plunging among 18-34 year olds. ABC is really steady looking. Uni and CW are way up, oddly enough. Fox keeps moving up in the world, good for it! I”m really disappointed with NBC’s downturn. :( It deserves better.

]]> By: jay http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/30/univision-fox-cw-gain-vs-last-season-nbc-cbs-fall-abc-mixed/5380#comment-25168 jay Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:42:45 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=5380#comment-25168 Good point DD. Where I live the dish people will not let me get Fox news, Fox sports, FX, MSNBC, Turner Classic, BET, etc. When they threw three free weeks of Hallmark and Turner Classic ( sequentially, not concurrently) I watched those channels often. But the ratings game is just that - a game. It has rules and a set of parameters which make sense only within the context of the game. Advertisers know it, networks know it, media journalists know it. The shadow on the wall is the game. What luminous source casts the shadow? Ad rates per minute. The customer is not the viewer, but the sponsor - Geiko, Smiling Bob, Obama, McCain, whomever. They, not us, control the rules. Good point DD. Where I live the dish people will not let me get Fox news, Fox sports, FX, MSNBC, Turner Classic, BET, etc. When they threw three free weeks of Hallmark and Turner Classic ( sequentially, not concurrently) I watched those channels often. But the ratings game is just that – a game. It has rules and a set of parameters which make sense only within the context of the game. Advertisers know it, networks know it, media journalists know it. The shadow on the wall is the game. What luminous source casts the shadow? Ad rates per minute. The customer is not the viewer, but the sponsor – Geiko, Smiling Bob, Obama, McCain, whomever. They, not us, control the rules.

]]> By: DD. http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/30/univision-fox-cw-gain-vs-last-season-nbc-cbs-fall-abc-mixed/5380#comment-24871 DD. Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:03:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=5380#comment-24871 You know what? TV has changed. People have changed. The world i ever changing. More people watch cable/dish television. Some areas, if you don't have Cable/Dish can only get certain channels. I know I became a BIG fan of NBC over years for simple fact that until cable came out with such great package deals, I REFUSED to pay the outrageous prices for cable & I'm not a big fan of the dish. In the area I lived I could only really get 1 network channel, that was NBC. I got the local PBS channel & a local access channel and that was pretty much it. If that's what it was like for me, what's the rest of America dealing with? Now, I actually like some of the Cable network shows. Plus with Cable/dish there a fewer commercials. I DVR my soap, Yes, Days of our Lives, and it amazes me how many commercials there are. Luckily, I can fast forward them so it's not so bad. AND, I understand that that's the best time to generate revenue for the network. I love the crossover of of HBO & NBC "advertising" on each other's channels. That's ingenius!! Great Job BENJI! lol You know what? TV has changed. People have changed. The world i ever changing. More people watch cable/dish television. Some areas, if you don’t have Cable/Dish can only get certain channels. I know I became a BIG fan of NBC over years for simple fact that until cable came out with such great package deals, I REFUSED to pay the outrageous prices for cable & I’m not a big fan of the dish. In the area I lived I could only really get 1 network channel, that was NBC. I got the local PBS channel & a local access channel and that was pretty much it. If that’s what it was like for me, what’s the rest of America dealing with? Now, I actually like some of the Cable network shows. Plus with Cable/dish there a fewer commercials. I DVR my soap, Yes, Days of our Lives, and it amazes me how many commercials there are. Luckily, I can fast forward them so it’s not so bad. AND, I understand that that’s the best time to generate revenue for the network.

I love the crossover of of HBO & NBC “advertising” on each other’s channels. That’s ingenius!! Great Job BENJI! lol

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