Comments on: Renewal Likely Now For Chuck, Prison Break and Ugly Betty http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623 Nielsen TV Show Ratings, Data and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:07:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Alex http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-41508 Alex Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:04:37 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-41508 What I find really unfortunate about PB's situation is that I think the 3rd season stinked, plain and simple. I was not a fan of them being chucked back in jail for the season to break some random guy we didn't know about out. I got the feeling from looking at figures a lot of people agreed and switched off. The 4th season however is BRILLIANT, and easily second best over all behind only the first season which will never be beaten as far as I'm concerned. What reassures me is that people consider PB a solid performer, despite its drop in ratings. What I did notice whilst watching the most recent episode online - channel 7 is behind and screening at something like 10:30 at night - was that it's consistently the most downloaded show. Surely ratings should begin to encompass statistics like this in future? It shows that the show is popular, just that it is being watched in another medium. And surely the statistics for most downloaded television show will become a more accurate gauge of ratings in general anyway? Just my thoughts. Hopefully Prison Break gets the same decency that Lost has been given and the writers get told 2 or 3 seasons in advance that they have to wrap it up. Nothing I hate more than an abrupt rush to finish a show a la OC. What I find really unfortunate about PB’s situation is that I think the 3rd season stinked, plain and simple. I was not a fan of them being chucked back in jail for the season to break some random guy we didn’t know about out. I got the feeling from looking at figures a lot of people agreed and switched off. The 4th season however is BRILLIANT, and easily second best over all behind only the first season which will never be beaten as far as I’m concerned.

What reassures me is that people consider PB a solid performer, despite its drop in ratings. What I did notice whilst watching the most recent episode online – channel 7 is behind and screening at something like 10:30 at night – was that it’s consistently the most downloaded show. Surely ratings should begin to encompass statistics like this in future? It shows that the show is popular, just that it is being watched in another medium.

And surely the statistics for most downloaded television show will become a more accurate gauge of ratings in general anyway?

Just my thoughts.

Hopefully Prison Break gets the same decency that Lost has been given and the writers get told 2 or 3 seasons in advance that they have to wrap it up. Nothing I hate more than an abrupt rush to finish a show a la OC.

]]> By: Julia http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-41233 Julia Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:20:39 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-41233 JP, there will not be an answer to your question until around May. Bill and Robert can ask all the insiders they want, but no one will tell them (or possibly even know) anything until May. JP, there will not be an answer to your question until around May. Bill and Robert can ask all the insiders they want, but no one will tell them (or possibly even know) anything until May.

]]> By: JP http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-41226 JP Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:49:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-41226 So.... whe have Pb sez5 or not??? please ask sombody to my question... So…. whe have Pb sez5 or not??? please ask sombody to my question…

]]> By: Tyson http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-40069 Tyson Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:14:48 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-40069 I don't understand why they try to bring back shows (Knight Rider) yeah it was cool for about 2 episodes. Also 'Terminator' ....come one....Arnold Schwarzenegger is awesome, we all know that, now he's governor, but I won't watch the show for the pure and simple fact that The Terminator was awesome- don't ruin it for me.. I don’t understand why they try to bring back shows (Knight Rider) yeah it was cool for about 2 episodes. Also ‘Terminator’ ….come one….Arnold Schwarzenegger is awesome, we all know that, now he’s governor, but I won’t watch the show for the pure and simple fact that The Terminator was awesome- don’t ruin it for me..

]]> By: kayla http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29996 kayla Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:40:23 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29996 i love pushing daisies :( i work wednesday nights, but i watch it online at abc.com everyyyy thursday. i will cry if it gets cancelled. it's one of the only cleverly written shows with amazing cinematography. i love pushing daisies :( i work wednesday nights, but i watch it online at abc.com everyyyy thursday. i will cry if it gets cancelled. it’s one of the only cleverly written shows with amazing cinematography.

]]> By: Iz http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29891 Iz Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:38:57 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29891 I really love Easy Money and Valentine, They have pretty good storylines, but they got stuck with a major bad night. Other established shows have a better chance with Sunday. But new shows have a tough time breaking in. I hope they get a chance :(! I really love Easy Money and Valentine, They have pretty good storylines, but they got stuck with a major bad night. Other established shows have a better chance with Sunday. But new shows have a tough time breaking in.

I hope they get a chance :( !

]]> By: Chelsea http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29807 Chelsea Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:20:56 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29807 Not gonna lie, I would probably shed a few tears for "Chuck." I hope it stays on the "likely to be renewed list!!" Not gonna lie, I would probably shed a few tears for “Chuck.”

I hope it stays on the “likely to be renewed list!!”

]]> By: Stefanie http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29746 Stefanie Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:12:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29746 Um... 30-something with "above average" income here and I LOVE PUSHING DAISIES!!! Unfortunately, I understand it is not mainstream. It is a shame that a show with such talent can't find pick up speed. I agree with other posters that the advertising was minimal at best. We can only pray that it picks up more viewers. Begging the tv exec's will not help. Get people to watch the show... talk it up at meetings and lunch dates. Word of mouth is the best weapon. Um… 30-something with “above average” income here and I LOVE PUSHING DAISIES!!! Unfortunately, I understand it is not mainstream. It is a shame that a show with such talent can’t find pick up speed. I agree with other posters that the advertising was minimal at best. We can only pray that it picks up more viewers. Begging the tv exec’s will not help. Get people to watch the show… talk it up at meetings and lunch dates. Word of mouth is the best weapon.

]]> By: JP http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29548 JP Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:32:01 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29548 Thakns allot Bill! Thakns allot Bill!

]]> By: Tarin http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29400 Tarin Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:26:00 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29400 I hope you are right about Chuck! I would be so depressed without it. Chuck is my favourite show of all time by far. I hope you are right about Chuck! I would be so depressed without it. Chuck is my favourite show of all time by far.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29318 Bill Gorman Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:50:24 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29318 JP, STD = Season to Date If you meant, what are the actual numbers?, go to this link, updated weekly: http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/nielsen-network-tv-ratings-season-to-date JP, STD = Season to Date

If you meant, what are the actual numbers?, go to this link, updated weekly:

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/nielsen-network-tv-ratings-season-to-date

]]> By: Nancy http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29315 Nancy Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:39:49 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29315 I enjoy Pushing Daisies very much, but the writing is on the wall. I think this show would have a better chance of success on cable. Perhaps airing on the ABC Family Channel or Lifetime, where the ratings pressures aren't as great. As for New Adventures of Old Christine, I have never liked that show. I consider that character a weaker version of Elaine Benis. I do wonder if one of the reasons that it will probably be sticking around for a while is because it is a half hour show. If it were canceled, then that would mean that hour long CBS comedy block would have to be canceled and replaced with an hour long show, or CBS would have to come up with another half hour sitcom to replace it. That being said, at this point, there just aren't any good sitcoms on anymore. I enjoy Pushing Daisies very much, but the writing is on the wall. I think this show would have a better chance of success on cable. Perhaps airing on the ABC Family Channel or Lifetime, where the ratings pressures aren’t as great.

As for New Adventures of Old Christine, I have never liked that show. I consider that character a weaker version of Elaine Benis. I do wonder if one of the reasons that it will probably be sticking around for a while is because it is a half hour show. If it were canceled, then that would mean that hour long CBS comedy block would have to be canceled and replaced with an hour long show, or CBS would have to come up with another half hour sitcom to replace it. That being said, at this point, there just aren’t any good sitcoms on anymore.

]]> By: JP http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29309 JP Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:17:32 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29309 Julia, How what are the Fox's S-T-D numbers? Julia,
How what are the Fox’s S-T-D numbers?

]]> By: Katie http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29293 Katie Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:38:50 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29293 Im sorry I didnt mean that Pushing Daisies and The Office/30 Rock have the same ratings what I meant was that there not heavy ratings getters but they do get nominated for Emmys look at My Name Is Earl for example not a heavy ratings getter compared to Law and Order but it has charm and some Emmy wins. Pushing Daisies is not for everyone but I think ABC needs to try a little harder with it. Today I read that NBC is moving Life to Wednesday to try and boost its ratings why cant ABC move Pushing Daisies somewhere. Im sorry I didnt mean that Pushing Daisies and The Office/30 Rock have the same ratings what I meant was that there not heavy ratings getters but they do get nominated for Emmys look at My Name Is Earl for example not a heavy ratings getter compared to Law and Order but it has charm and some Emmy wins. Pushing Daisies is not for everyone but I think ABC needs to try a little harder with it. Today I read that NBC is moving Life to Wednesday to try and boost its ratings why cant ABC move Pushing Daisies somewhere.

]]> By: Rachel P http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29269 Rachel P Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:25:10 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29269 @FrankJ: Yeah, sounds good to me! Thankfully though, that Summer rule seems to be working pretty well for now. :P @FrankJ:

Yeah, sounds good to me! Thankfully though, that Summer rule seems to be working pretty well for now. :P

]]> By: Ben http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29267 Ben Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:46:17 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29267 With dollhouse and 24 on monday, perhaps they will move prison break to thursday in january. Ramsay and hole in the wall ratings are just awful that night. With dollhouse and 24 on monday, perhaps they will move prison break to thursday in january. Ramsay and hole in the wall ratings are just awful that night.

]]> By: Julia http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29266 Julia Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:43 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29266 Thanks for the input on Prison Break, Bill. As far as I know, FOX also produces PB. So I don't think the cost is too high for production and such. Also, Nick Santora, who is one of the writers, answers questions on one of the PB forums rather frequently. It sounds like the writers want to keep making PB if FOX renews it for season five. He says that as long as the network wants the show, that's how long they all will keep making it. What I am worried about is when American Idol comes back. Wouldn't that skew all the shows? At least in the demos/ratings wise? As of right now, PB is looking solid. However, once 24 and American Idol come back, I wonder how FOX network will look like as a whole. Do you think PB will still have a chance at season five? Thanks for the input on Prison Break, Bill. As far as I know, FOX also produces PB. So I don’t think the cost is too high for production and such. Also, Nick Santora, who is one of the writers, answers questions on one of the PB forums rather frequently. It sounds like the writers want to keep making PB if FOX renews it for season five. He says that as long as the network wants the show, that’s how long they all will keep making it.

What I am worried about is when American Idol comes back. Wouldn’t that skew all the shows? At least in the demos/ratings wise? As of right now, PB is looking solid. However, once 24 and American Idol come back, I wonder how FOX network will look like as a whole. Do you think PB will still have a chance at season five?

]]> By: Nick C http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29264 Nick C Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:35:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29264 Where do rumors start that Pushing Daisies is doing as well as 30 Rock or The Office? I've read this on sites like Aint It Cool and here by posters. That just isn't true at all. 30 Rock does better in demos, and most importantly (the reason it's still on the air) is it's a top 5 show for people in the $100k+ demo (number 4 actually). Pushing Daisies doesn't compare at all. It is doing poorly in the 18-49, and in the rich category too. It seems it's watched by a lot of old poor people. Where do rumors start that Pushing Daisies is doing as well as 30 Rock or The Office? I’ve read this on sites like Aint It Cool and here by posters. That just isn’t true at all. 30 Rock does better in demos, and most importantly (the reason it’s still on the air) is it’s a top 5 show for people in the $100k+ demo (number 4 actually). Pushing Daisies doesn’t compare at all. It is doing poorly in the 18-49, and in the rich category too. It seems it’s watched by a lot of old poor people.

]]> By: Katie http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29241 Katie Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:39:21 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29241 Its such a sad world when a show that has such a great cast cant stay on the air I keep hoping that Pushing Daisies will be like the NBC comedies and get to stay on the air because of Emmy love. The cast isn't that famous so it cant cost that much money to pay them why do I feel like its Moonlight all over again :( Its such a sad world when a show that has such a great cast cant stay on the air I keep hoping that Pushing Daisies will be like the NBC comedies and get to stay on the air because of Emmy love. The cast isn’t that famous so it cant cost that much money to pay them why do I feel like its Moonlight all over again :(

]]> By: Julia http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29142 Julia Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:59:35 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29142 Katie, be that as it may, Pushing Daisies is not going to be around much longer. This upsets me greatly, because it is one of my favorite shows on air right now, but at most it's going to air its 13 and that's all. Katie, be that as it may, Pushing Daisies is not going to be around much longer. This upsets me greatly, because it is one of my favorite shows on air right now, but at most it’s going to air its 13 and that’s all.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29141 Bill Gorman Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:54:40 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29141 Julia, absent contractual/production issues I know nothing about, Prison Break is looking pretty good for another season currently. Julia, absent contractual/production issues I know nothing about, Prison Break is looking pretty good for another season currently.

]]> By: Julia http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29139 Julia Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:50:34 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29139 Bill, Prison Break is one of my favorite shows! So the chances are good for a season five? What kind of ratings/demos does Prison Break need to keep getting in order to get a season five? PB is an amazing show! Bill, Prison Break is one of my favorite shows! So the chances are good for a season five? What kind of ratings/demos does Prison Break need to keep getting in order to get a season five? PB is an amazing show!

]]> By: Katie http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29088 Katie Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:10:28 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29088 ABC would be crazy to cancel Pushing Daisies it might not be a huge ratings winner but it scored more Emmy nominations than any ABC show that includes there big hits like Lost and Greys Anatomy. They need to give the show a lead in for heavens sake having Pushing Daisies a basically brand new show lead in to Private Practice and Dirty Sexy Money isn't really fair. The lady that won an Emmy for Samantha Who was right she thanked ABC for there wonderful time slot and lead in if it weren't for those two things Samantha Who would be in the same predicament that Pushing Daisies is and she knew that. ABC would be crazy to cancel Pushing Daisies it might not be a huge ratings winner but it scored more Emmy nominations than any ABC show that includes there big hits like Lost and Greys Anatomy. They need to give the show a lead in for heavens sake having Pushing Daisies a basically brand new show lead in to Private Practice and Dirty Sexy Money isn’t really fair. The lady that won an Emmy for Samantha Who was right she thanked ABC for there wonderful time slot and lead in if it weren’t for those two things Samantha Who would be in the same predicament that Pushing Daisies is and she knew that.

]]> By: Bill Gorman http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29070 Bill Gorman Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:39:59 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29070 Mike G, the shows like Without A Trace, in the .80-.92 range, still have plenty of time and not that far to go to move themselves into the range where they'll get renewed. This list is presented as what would happen if the season ended today, sort of like looking at the potential baseball playoff teams on September 1. Mike G, the shows like Without A Trace, in the .80-.92 range, still have plenty of time and not that far to go to move themselves into the range where they’ll get renewed. This list is presented as what would happen if the season ended today, sort of like looking at the potential baseball playoff teams on September 1.

]]> By: Johnthemon http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/22/renewal-likely-now-for-chuck-prison-break-and-ugly-betty/6623#comment-29069 Johnthemon Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:37:35 +0000 http://tvbythenumbers.com/?p=6623#comment-29069 Yay for Chuck! Stay strong! Yay for Chuck! Stay strong!

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