Nick C you may not like Heroes and you certainly are entitled to your opinion (and it IS an opinion), but it is uncalled for to tell a poster that if they liked the episode they “have problems”.

I too liked Monday’s episode. But then I am not watching it so hell bent picking it apart and I actually get what is going on with the storyline! Sylar did not open Elle’s skull to gete her power…the moment was purely symbolic as a means to show the viewer that Sylar would never change.

While I would agree Heroes has it’s problems, the fact that there are those of us who are able to watch for the enjoyment it brings does not mean we have problems. We only see it from a different prospective than you do.

I realize you are going to come at me with a zillion reasons why you think Heroes sucks and I have no problem with that. Again…opinions vary. But to outwardly demean Fin in that manner was just insulting.

Terminator on the other hand is one of the most innovative shows I’ve seen in a long while. I hope it will live on because it’s that good. Easily the same category as Firefly, Carnivale, Freaks and Geeks, Dexter and Twin Peaks.

About Chuck, I’ve seen so many shows like that, nothing new. I actually began watching Terminator because of Mr Seidman’s recommendation. Since he stepped over to Chuck I thought it would be great too. Watched the entire first season and I wish I could have those hours back. Ah well, to each his or her own.

TSCC could see at least a small bump in the ratings when moved away from Mondays & Chuck.

From ABCmedianet for week Nov 24th:
“Samantha Who?” Beats CBS’ “Worst Week” in Total Viewers and Adults 18-34 and Wins its Half-hour in Women 18-49 and Women 25-54 for the 6th Time in 7 Telecasts ”

Samantha Who? won 7 weeks straight and then the first week without DWTS, SW is beaten by a repeat of WW.

Ouch.

I agree with Vader – Olivia Dunham is the female lead of Fringe. She’s not a pawned-off version thereof. I agree with Julia on some point soo. For instance, when a female “lead” equates to “love interest” in the story arc, the story becomes a bore. It ruined GA and it’s ruining House to write the lead (and key supporting) female characters this way.

I would say that Anna Torv has finally started to flesh out the Olivia Dunham character quite well. Sure, some “love interest” aspects remain from the premiere episode, but Dunham’s emotional attachment to John Scott has served as a springboard to more interesting paranomal themes. Olivia’s not spending much time sitting around pining for her lost love – she’s literally using John’s memories to help solve cases. Not memories OF John, but actual scenes that played in his head. Dunham and Peter Bishop have got a really good rapport going now…so long as the writers can keep the relationship platonic, Fringe will continue to improve IMHO. Writers are walking to very fine lines here though: Create chemistry between Bishop and Dunham without resorting to sex; and keep “The Pattern” theme running without getting too serialized, too confusing or just too weird for weird’s sake. (LOST fell victim to confusing weirdness, IMHO, and I quit watching halfway through last season).

Also, I watched Terminator last night and will need to watch it again as I was pretty confused. Of course, watching it at one in the morning and having to fight to keep my eyes open at the end of it didn’t help me, but I did like the creativity of the episode.

So give me shows centered around a strong female, and I’ll be happy. But don’t try to pawn shows like Fringe off on me as a strong female lead.

TSCC should hopefully do better again next week, the preview looks pretty good.

One of the reasons I like “Fringe” so much is that two good female FBI agents share the load with the male leads. The show still has work to do in this department, IMHO – Anna Torv has some room to grow as an actor, and they are starting to write more complexity in her character. The character of Astrid deserves a bit more screen time too. She did stand up to Dr. Bishop last night though, with humor, which is a good sign. The worst thing that could happen, is if the female agents are written off as “relationship” fodder, catering to the male fantasies. I stopped wathcing “Gray’s Anatomy” for that reason – the female leads were reduced to lovesick puppies, and medical careers were lost in the shuffle.

Speaking of “relationship” fodder, I think that House is destroying a strong female supporting character in Dr. Cuddy. The only reason she’s so mean to House’s a-hole ways is that she’s got a crush on him? And that she’s so depressed she couldn’t conceive or adopt a child? Come on! A gifted doctor and hospital administrator can’t be written as female without catering to the “all women want is to mate with the bad boys and have babies” mentality. Grrr…

To the TVBTN board team – rant over. I’ll go back on topic next time I visit

As for CBS repeat, well, no surprise, people who watch CBS usually never change their channel even when it’s repeat. I know this for a fact because that’s how my grandpa operate, although he doesn’t watch HIMYM though, it’s too hip for him.