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	<title>Comments on: Thursday Ratings: Barbara Walters is still a hit with the &#8220;youth&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I think what I am really cranky about is that there no longer seems to be, for the most part, any independent entertainment press. And no marketplace of differing opinions. Because of conglomerates, they end up all being owned by the same companies. JMHO.&quot;

What are we? Chopped Liver? ;)

Edit: Indeed, closer to chopped liver than not perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, I think what I am really cranky about is that there no longer seems to be, for the most part, any independent entertainment press. And no marketplace of differing opinions. Because of conglomerates, they end up all being owned by the same companies. JMHO.&#8221;</p>
<p>What are we? Chopped Liver? <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Edit: Indeed, closer to chopped liver than not perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: However, the idea that people can become viewers of a show because it was somehow &quot;forced&quot; on them is just plain silly.

Yes, I see your point. And, sorry, I was being more than a little clumsy in trying to make mine.

But isn&#039;t that what the principles of advertising are all about? Especially surround-sound advertising? &quot;Persuasion,&quot; to use the euphemism.

Keep repeating the same message over and over until people start believing it. And granted, &quot;people like what they like and watch what they like,&quot; but a statistically significant portion of the population apparently also cares about sitting at the cool-kids table in the cafeteria.

So that if the network marketing and the entertainment press cooperate to create a momentum of &quot;buzz,&quot; they hope that enough viewers will jump on to ride the wave.

However, I think what I am really cranky about is that there no longer seems to be, for the most part, any independent entertainment press. And no marketplace of differing opinions. Because of conglomerates, they end up all being owned by the same companies. JMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: However, the idea that people can become viewers of a show because it was somehow &#8220;forced&#8221; on them is just plain silly.</p>
<p>Yes, I see your point. And, sorry, I was being more than a little clumsy in trying to make mine.</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t that what the principles of advertising are all about? Especially surround-sound advertising? &#8220;Persuasion,&#8221; to use the euphemism.</p>
<p>Keep repeating the same message over and over until people start believing it. And granted, &#8220;people like what they like and watch what they like,&#8221; but a statistically significant portion of the population apparently also cares about sitting at the cool-kids table in the cafeteria.</p>
<p>So that if the network marketing and the entertainment press cooperate to create a momentum of &#8220;buzz,&#8221; they hope that enough viewers will jump on to ride the wave.</p>
<p>However, I think what I am really cranky about is that there no longer seems to be, for the most part, any independent entertainment press. And no marketplace of differing opinions. Because of conglomerates, they end up all being owned by the same companies. JMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alicia, Robert and I rarely deal with the &quot;quality&quot; of the shows. That&#039;s entirely subjective and you (and everybody else) are entitled to your opinion. However, the idea that people can become viewers of a show because it was somehow &quot;forced&quot; on them is just plain silly. First of all, very few viewers (on a % basis) of these shows ever read any kind of review from the entertainment media. Second, and most important, is that people like what they like and watch what they like, simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alicia, Robert and I rarely deal with the &#8220;quality&#8221; of the shows. That&#8217;s entirely subjective and you (and everybody else) are entitled to your opinion. However, the idea that people can become viewers of a show because it was somehow &#8220;forced&#8221; on them is just plain silly. First of all, very few viewers (on a % basis) of these shows ever read any kind of review from the entertainment media. Second, and most important, is that people like what they like and watch what they like, simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that bothers me about 30 Rock is that there seems to be a mission in the entertainment press to ram it down people&#039;s throats. 

When it first started, it was my favorite show. The very obvious decline in the quality of its writing would have made me root for it to be great again. Except that all of my good will is being drained away by press reports not only describing The Naked Emporer&#039;s outfits but actually labeling them in florid detail as couture.

I resent the spin. The first episode of this season was awful. Why didn&#039;t the press say so. Isn&#039;t that their job? They are not supposed to be publicity hacks.

The episode with Jennifer Aniston was 3rd lowest in the ratings for the night. Even after all of the endless hype. Granted, it was a well-written episode, but the obvious story was that Movie-star Aniston could not pull in the numbers. But I think you had to go to India Press to read that. 

Tina Fey is a talented performer, and seems to be a genuinely nice person. But as a writer, for me at least she falls short. SNL was mostly awful during her reign as head writer. 

I think NBC has decided that 30 Rock is the new Seinfeld and is determined to make people believe it. The heck with the quality of the writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that bothers me about 30 Rock is that there seems to be a mission in the entertainment press to ram it down people&#8217;s throats. </p>
<p>When it first started, it was my favorite show. The very obvious decline in the quality of its writing would have made me root for it to be great again. Except that all of my good will is being drained away by press reports not only describing The Naked Emporer&#8217;s outfits but actually labeling them in florid detail as couture.</p>
<p>I resent the spin. The first episode of this season was awful. Why didn&#8217;t the press say so. Isn&#8217;t that their job? They are not supposed to be publicity hacks.</p>
<p>The episode with Jennifer Aniston was 3rd lowest in the ratings for the night. Even after all of the endless hype. Granted, it was a well-written episode, but the obvious story was that Movie-star Aniston could not pull in the numbers. But I think you had to go to India Press to read that. </p>
<p>Tina Fey is a talented performer, and seems to be a genuinely nice person. But as a writer, for me at least she falls short. SNL was mostly awful during her reign as head writer. </p>
<p>I think NBC has decided that 30 Rock is the new Seinfeld and is determined to make people believe it. The heck with the quality of the writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Pats5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pats5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the new ratings for Friday&#039;s shows like ghost whisperer. :(</description>
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		<title>By: revolutioninthehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>revolutioninthehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alicia: And yet you continue to watch a show suffering a &#039;steep decline in quality?&#039; ... And you accuse others of &#039;drinking the kool-aid?&#039; ;) 


@ Bill Gorman: Wahoowa indeed! Go Hoos! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alicia: And yet you continue to watch a show suffering a &#8217;steep decline in quality?&#8217; &#8230; And you accuse others of &#8216;drinking the kool-aid?&#8217; <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@ Bill Gorman: Wahoowa indeed! Go Hoos! <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A) I don&#039;t think the youths much cared about Barbara Walters. I&#039;m pretty sure they were tuning in to see Tina Fey, Will Smith, and Barack Obama. Maybe Sarah Palin too.

B) It&#039;s going to be so nice not to have to worry anymore about 30 Rock getting renewed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) I don&#8217;t think the youths much cared about Barbara Walters. I&#8217;m pretty sure they were tuning in to see Tina Fey, Will Smith, and Barack Obama. Maybe Sarah Palin too.</p>
<p>B) It&#8217;s going to be so nice not to have to worry anymore about 30 Rock getting renewed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSI getting boring? You should have noticed that after the third ep of the first season when you realize it&#039;s a reset-show. It resets itself after every episode making every episode the same. Like way too many shows on tv right now. It&#039;s like going back to the dark ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSI getting boring? You should have noticed that after the third ep of the first season when you realize it&#8217;s a reset-show. It resets itself after every episode making every episode the same. Like way too many shows on tv right now. It&#8217;s like going back to the dark ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/05/thursday-ratings-barbara-walters-is-still-a-hit-with-the-youth/9208#comment-38853</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/04/nbc-kicks-off-a-post-super-bowl-primetime-schedule-with-new-mid-season-series-premieres-popular-series-returns-the-er-series-finale-and-an-original-movie-event/9160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Medium returns February 2.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/04/nbc-kicks-off-a-post-super-bowl-primetime-schedule-with-new-mid-season-series-premieres-popular-series-returns-the-er-series-finale-and-an-original-movie-event/9160" rel="nofollow">Medium returns February 2.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSI is getting boring. I think its starting to fade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSI is getting boring. I think its starting to fade.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when is medium going to return to help out the dying network?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when is medium going to return to help out the dying network?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kyle, ABC has so many other problems that Ugly Betty is a success for them right now. This show will be around for 2 more seasons at least.&quot;

Agreed!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kyle, ABC has so many other problems that Ugly Betty is a success for them right now. This show will be around for 2 more seasons at least.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed!!!</p>
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		<title>By: idizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator>idizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So without a lead in SW? would do what? Pushing Daisies demo numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So without a lead in SW? would do what? Pushing Daisies demo numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/05/thursday-ratings-barbara-walters-is-still-a-hit-with-the-youth/9208#comment-38834</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SW? got ATJ demo numbers even with a lead-in this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SW? got ATJ demo numbers even with a lead-in this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If SW? led off a night it would get According to Jim numbers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If SW? led off a night it would get According to Jim numbers</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bri, even though Samantha Who? has slightly better season to date ratings for adults 18-49 I&#039;d agree that Ugly Betty is ABC&#039;s strongest (ratings) comedy. No way would SW? do Ugly Betty&#039;s numbers if their time slots were reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bri, even though Samantha Who? has slightly better season to date ratings for adults 18-49 I&#8217;d agree that Ugly Betty is ABC&#8217;s strongest (ratings) comedy. No way would SW? do Ugly Betty&#8217;s numbers if their time slots were reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugly Betty is the ONLY comedy that does well on ABC.  Not to mention it has a very loyal audience and this season is amazing now that Sylvia Horta is running it again.  It has at least another 2 seasons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugly Betty is the ONLY comedy that does well on ABC.  Not to mention it has a very loyal audience and this season is amazing now that Sylvia Horta is running it again.  It has at least another 2 seasons!</p>
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		<title>By: maahem</title>
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		<dc:creator>maahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle,
I think Ugly Betty has a chance...It&#039;s in the middle range of all ABC shows. Its not too low or crazy high but a good medium. I really hope it stays for another season. ABC has already axed 3 primetime shows...I dont know what else they might do but Ugly Betty must stay. The writing and message of the show is immpecable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle,<br />
I think Ugly Betty has a chance&#8230;It&#8217;s in the middle range of all ABC shows. Its not too low or crazy high but a good medium. I really hope it stays for another season. ABC has already axed 3 primetime shows&#8230;I dont know what else they might do but Ugly Betty must stay. The writing and message of the show is immpecable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am impressed that 30 Rock is holding steady with these numbers, and hopefully they remain firm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am impressed that 30 Rock is holding steady with these numbers, and hopefully they remain firm.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robert, for explaining the demos to me!</description>
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		<title>By: Matt... 3?  (Lots of Matts here)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt... 3?  (Lots of Matts here)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alicia,
I think it&#039;s because nobody expects a show airing at 9:30 to build on it&#039;s lead in.  Networks put their strongest shows in the first half hour.  Nobody expects 30 Rock to build on The Office. That will never happen.  Holding 85% of the viewers is pretty great (especially compared to past shows that held that spot.)

Also to consider, look at the lead out retention of other networks top shows:
Life on Mars after Greys Anatomy: 52%
Bros &amp; Sis after Housewives: 64%
Fringe after House: 73%
Worst Week after TAHM: 67%

So yeah 85% is significant.

And to the fact that it didn&#039;t take much to improve.  You&#039;re right.  But you could say the same to any other show on NBC right now.  The fact is 30 Rock&#039;s average this season is 2 million above last season&#039;s.  That&#039;s 132% of last years audience.  And considering every other returning show on NBC besides ER are down this season: huge.  (What&#039;s ER&#039;s lead in?  (Just kidding, I know it&#039;s &#039;last season hype&#039; or whatever))

Gaining 2 million viewers on a network that&#039;s falling fast?  Kudos are in order.

Also, NBC has spent way more money on promoting The Office.  Maybe not during October/November.  But overall.  Remember the big Olympic campaign?  Just wait till you see the post-Superbowl campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alicia,<br />
I think it&#8217;s because nobody expects a show airing at 9:30 to build on it&#8217;s lead in.  Networks put their strongest shows in the first half hour.  Nobody expects 30 Rock to build on The Office. That will never happen.  Holding 85% of the viewers is pretty great (especially compared to past shows that held that spot.)</p>
<p>Also to consider, look at the lead out retention of other networks top shows:<br />
Life on Mars after Greys Anatomy: 52%<br />
Bros &amp; Sis after Housewives: 64%<br />
Fringe after House: 73%<br />
Worst Week after TAHM: 67%</p>
<p>So yeah 85% is significant.</p>
<p>And to the fact that it didn&#8217;t take much to improve.  You&#8217;re right.  But you could say the same to any other show on NBC right now.  The fact is 30 Rock&#8217;s average this season is 2 million above last season&#8217;s.  That&#8217;s 132% of last years audience.  And considering every other returning show on NBC besides ER are down this season: huge.  (What&#8217;s ER&#8217;s lead in?  (Just kidding, I know it&#8217;s &#8216;last season hype&#8217; or whatever))</p>
<p>Gaining 2 million viewers on a network that&#8217;s falling fast?  Kudos are in order.</p>
<p>Also, NBC has spent way more money on promoting The Office.  Maybe not during October/November.  But overall.  Remember the big Olympic campaign?  Just wait till you see the post-Superbowl campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Kath and Kim........not as much as The Office, but it&#039;s really good.  I realize it probably won&#039;t last after this season though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Kath and Kim&#8230;&#8230;..not as much as The Office, but it&#8217;s really good.  I realize it probably won&#8217;t last after this season though.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m stunned CSI was so low this week. It seemed to me to be an all out attack on and slam against American Idol. You could not help but come to that conclusion based upon all the things they were saying. The evidence consisted of; one sleezy executive producer, three finalist contestants, one a white male, the other a black female, and the third was a kid named Anjaya (priceless- lol). Along with the show title, Overnight Sensation, and accusations of the show purposefully humiliating people for ratings, there was no way to not know where they were going with this episode. The CSI gang really hit that one out of the park and they seemed to delight in it. Give that episode a golden ticket. It was both brazen and hilarious!

Equally outstanding was the entire lineup on ABC last night.  Ugly Betty doesn&#039;t get the Grey&#039;s Anatomy and Desperate Housewives ratings for some reason, but when it comes down to great writing they are right up there with the best scripted shows. With its incessant wittiness and intrigue, at times UB beats Desperate Housewives writing, and in the dramedy category that is asking for the impossible.  Last night was a showcase of cleverness in the areas of plot and humor. I still believe that if the overall tone of Pushing Daises hadn&#039;t been so abstract, it would have been able to pull Ugly Betty type numbers and won the 8pm time slot on Wednesdays. Nonetheless, on a highly competitive night, Ugly Betty is still one of the highest rated shows and I can&#039;t imagine that ABC would even be considering getting rid of it. 

Finally, I&#039;m starting to realize ABC might strike gold with Private Practice after Grey&#039;s.  Barbara Walters pulled one of the biggest audiences that hour has seen all season on any network.  If Private Practice can develop into the solid drama that GA is, obviously the viewers are there and waiting for something to motivate them to want to watch tv at 10pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m stunned CSI was so low this week. It seemed to me to be an all out attack on and slam against American Idol. You could not help but come to that conclusion based upon all the things they were saying. The evidence consisted of; one sleezy executive producer, three finalist contestants, one a white male, the other a black female, and the third was a kid named Anjaya (priceless- lol). Along with the show title, Overnight Sensation, and accusations of the show purposefully humiliating people for ratings, there was no way to not know where they were going with this episode. The CSI gang really hit that one out of the park and they seemed to delight in it. Give that episode a golden ticket. It was both brazen and hilarious!</p>
<p>Equally outstanding was the entire lineup on ABC last night.  Ugly Betty doesn&#8217;t get the Grey&#8217;s Anatomy and Desperate Housewives ratings for some reason, but when it comes down to great writing they are right up there with the best scripted shows. With its incessant wittiness and intrigue, at times UB beats Desperate Housewives writing, and in the dramedy category that is asking for the impossible.  Last night was a showcase of cleverness in the areas of plot and humor. I still believe that if the overall tone of Pushing Daises hadn&#8217;t been so abstract, it would have been able to pull Ugly Betty type numbers and won the 8pm time slot on Wednesdays. Nonetheless, on a highly competitive night, Ugly Betty is still one of the highest rated shows and I can&#8217;t imagine that ABC would even be considering getting rid of it. </p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;m starting to realize ABC might strike gold with Private Practice after Grey&#8217;s.  Barbara Walters pulled one of the biggest audiences that hour has seen all season on any network.  If Private Practice can develop into the solid drama that GA is, obviously the viewers are there and waiting for something to motivate them to want to watch tv at 10pm.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps less likely than Berman sisterhood, but could it be that Alicia is a closet Hokie evidencing some college rivalry hatred vs. Tina Fey (Virginia &#039;92)?

Wahoowa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps less likely than Berman sisterhood, but could it be that Alicia is a closet Hokie evidencing some college rivalry hatred vs. Tina Fey (Virginia &#8216;92)?</p>
<p>Wahoowa!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alicia, I couldn&#039;t disagree with you more both on the ratings and the quality of 30 Rock. No, the show doesn&#039;t get higher ratings than The Office. Was it ever expected to? The key was that the show needed to improve its ratings to where it was at least a solid performer, and it has done that. For the network its on, 30 Rock is doing very well this season. 

As far as the quality is concerned, you&#039;re certainly entitled to your opinion. I don&#039;t agree with you at all. The show has only improved since Season 1, and it&#039;s definitely one of the funniest shows on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alicia, I couldn&#8217;t disagree with you more both on the ratings and the quality of 30 Rock. No, the show doesn&#8217;t get higher ratings than The Office. Was it ever expected to? The key was that the show needed to improve its ratings to where it was at least a solid performer, and it has done that. For the network its on, 30 Rock is doing very well this season. </p>
<p>As far as the quality is concerned, you&#8217;re certainly entitled to your opinion. I don&#8217;t agree with you at all. The show has only improved since Season 1, and it&#8217;s definitely one of the funniest shows on TV.</p>
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