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	<title>Comments on: NBC Hands Jay Leno 23% of Primetime</title>
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		<title>By: R.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC - THE NEW CW - ENJOY EACH OTHER...</description>
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		<title>By: Johnthemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnthemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RR Ryan

They already tried programming Friday and that didn&#039;t work out so well.</description>
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<p>They already tried programming Friday and that didn&#8217;t work out so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnthemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnthemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Holly. I think this will work well enough while NBC develops some new shows. I don&#039;t think it will last beyond the 2009-2010 season, I don&#039;t think it will have to. This is actually a pretty clever move.

NBC was going to have to cancel more shows then it had new ones in production. If Kings, Merlin, and the Philanthopist all fail, they&#039;ll be even happier with this. I&#039;m not saying they will. Plus Medium is pretty much on the bubble and likely to be ended. If all this happens, they&#039;res no way NBC could fill all it&#039;s time. Eliminating the 10:00 hour on weeknights makes it possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Holly. I think this will work well enough while NBC develops some new shows. I don&#8217;t think it will last beyond the 2009-2010 season, I don&#8217;t think it will have to. This is actually a pretty clever move.</p>
<p>NBC was going to have to cancel more shows then it had new ones in production. If Kings, Merlin, and the Philanthopist all fail, they&#8217;ll be even happier with this. I&#8217;m not saying they will. Plus Medium is pretty much on the bubble and likely to be ended. If all this happens, they&#8217;res no way NBC could fill all it&#8217;s time. Eliminating the 10:00 hour on weeknights makes it possible.</p>
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		<title>By: the128boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>the128boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Kings, the philanthropist, and the amy poehler show work, this could be an interesting lineup.

Mon:
Heroes
Kings

Tue:
The Biggest Loser
The Biggest Loser

Wed:
The Philanthropist
Law &amp; Order: SVU

Thu:
My Name Is Earl
Amy Poehler
The Office
30 Rock

Fri:
Chuck
Law &amp; Order

They could save Dateline, The Apprentice, and new shows for Midseason once football is over.  A whole bunch of new shows in the fall would be too big a risk considering that leno&#039;s performance is still a question mark.

The best thing about this is that Friday doesn&#039;t have to be a throwaway night anymore.  They have enough programming now to at least *try* on Fridays.

I think this spells the end for
Knight Rider
Kath &amp; Kim
Friday Night Lights
Deal Or No Deal (now that they have enough to air on Fridays, even NBC doesn&#039;t have to settle for 5 mil and a 1.3 in the demo)

I also seriously doubt that Howie Do It, Momma&#039;s Boys, or Superstars of Dance will do well enough for a return.  Much less a fall berth... if they do well enough they can be filler for repeating shows or midseason replacements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Kings, the philanthropist, and the amy poehler show work, this could be an interesting lineup.</p>
<p>Mon:<br />
Heroes<br />
Kings</p>
<p>Tue:<br />
The Biggest Loser<br />
The Biggest Loser</p>
<p>Wed:<br />
The Philanthropist<br />
Law &amp; Order: SVU</p>
<p>Thu:<br />
My Name Is Earl<br />
Amy Poehler<br />
The Office<br />
30 Rock</p>
<p>Fri:<br />
Chuck<br />
Law &amp; Order</p>
<p>They could save Dateline, The Apprentice, and new shows for Midseason once football is over.  A whole bunch of new shows in the fall would be too big a risk considering that leno&#8217;s performance is still a question mark.</p>
<p>The best thing about this is that Friday doesn&#8217;t have to be a throwaway night anymore.  They have enough programming now to at least *try* on Fridays.</p>
<p>I think this spells the end for<br />
Knight Rider<br />
Kath &amp; Kim<br />
Friday Night Lights<br />
Deal Or No Deal (now that they have enough to air on Fridays, even NBC doesn&#8217;t have to settle for 5 mil and a 1.3 in the demo)</p>
<p>I also seriously doubt that Howie Do It, Momma&#8217;s Boys, or Superstars of Dance will do well enough for a return.  Much less a fall berth&#8230; if they do well enough they can be filler for repeating shows or midseason replacements.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments from Les Moonves: http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6621431.html

Nice to see that somebody out there still believes in the traditional model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments from Les Moonves: <a href="http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6621431.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6621431.html</a></p>
<p>Nice to see that somebody out there still believes in the traditional model.</p>
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		<title>By: Thecolours</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thecolours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How screwed will NBC be if this dosen&#039;t work out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How screwed will NBC be if this dosen&#8217;t work out?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conan is by far better than Leno.   Leno just isn&#039;t funny.  People write his entire show.  Atleast Conan has alot of input with his.  NBC didn&#039;t want to let Leno out because of a competition to there Late Night series.  Not to mention it was a 20 million payout to Conan if they cancelled his contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conan is by far better than Leno.   Leno just isn&#8217;t funny.  People write his entire show.  Atleast Conan has alot of input with his.  NBC didn&#8217;t want to let Leno out because of a competition to there Late Night series.  Not to mention it was a 20 million payout to Conan if they cancelled his contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Riff Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riff Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More great knowledge from the Times: 

&quot;No broadcast network has ever before offered the same show in prime time five nights a week.&quot;

Warren Littlefield would beg to differ, since his solution to all of NBC&#039;s problems was 5 editions of &quot;Dateline&quot; a week. (That and 20 &quot;upscale&quot; multi-cam sitcoms set in New York City with sassy white chicks working for newspapers, magazines, tabloids, promotions agencies and/or lingerie companies.) 

Not to mention that DuMont had a 5-night-a-week prime time show all the way back in 1947, with the kiddie program, &quot;Small Fry Club.&quot; CBS followed with &quot;Face the Music&quot; in 1948.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More great knowledge from the Times: </p>
<p>&#8220;No broadcast network has ever before offered the same show in prime time five nights a week.&#8221;</p>
<p>Warren Littlefield would beg to differ, since his solution to all of NBC&#8217;s problems was 5 editions of &#8220;Dateline&#8221; a week. (That and 20 &#8220;upscale&#8221; multi-cam sitcoms set in New York City with sassy white chicks working for newspapers, magazines, tabloids, promotions agencies and/or lingerie companies.) </p>
<p>Not to mention that DuMont had a 5-night-a-week prime time show all the way back in 1947, with the kiddie program, &#8220;Small Fry Club.&#8221; CBS followed with &#8220;Face the Music&#8221; in 1948.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with NBCs plan to put Leno on 5 days a week but I do like that they are willing to try something diffrent. I just wish it was with someone who appeals to a younger demo. Leno needed to go away gracefully.  

David- &quot;The Leno-less Tonight Show with Conan OBrien will fail because he is not as personable and fun to watch as Leno.&quot;

Conan appeals to a younger crowd. No one at my university ever comes to class talking about something that Leno did but they do talk about how funny Conan was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with NBCs plan to put Leno on 5 days a week but I do like that they are willing to try something diffrent. I just wish it was with someone who appeals to a younger demo. Leno needed to go away gracefully.  </p>
<p>David- &#8220;The Leno-less Tonight Show with Conan OBrien will fail because he is not as personable and fun to watch as Leno.&#8221;</p>
<p>Conan appeals to a younger crowd. No one at my university ever comes to class talking about something that Leno did but they do talk about how funny Conan was.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely Holly.....precisely.  If you are going blow the ship up, blow the ship up.  L&amp;O has to go!!! Hey Hey Ho Ho!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely Holly&#8230;..precisely.  If you are going blow the ship up, blow the ship up.  L&amp;O has to go!!! Hey Hey Ho Ho!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. O&#039;Leary: L&amp;O only did that well last week because CSI: NY wasn&#039;t on. When it is, L&amp;O gets 7 million and a 2.2 in the demo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. O&#8217;Leary: L&amp;O only did that well last week because CSI: NY wasn&#8217;t on. When it is, L&amp;O gets 7 million and a 2.2 in the demo.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs O'Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Law &amp; Order was NBC&#039;s 2nd highest rated show,Dec 1-7, just behind Sunday Football and 1 Million more than L&amp;O SVU. 
It was also one of NBC&#039;s two shows in the top twenty at number 17.

Canceling Law &amp; Order would be big mistake for NBC.

Hell, it even beat it&#039;s lead in, Life, by 3 Million!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Law &amp; Order was NBC&#8217;s 2nd highest rated show,Dec 1-7, just behind Sunday Football and 1 Million more than L&amp;O SVU.<br />
It was also one of NBC&#8217;s two shows in the top twenty at number 17.</p>
<p>Canceling Law &amp; Order would be big mistake for NBC.</p>
<p>Hell, it even beat it&#8217;s lead in, Life, by 3 Million!</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, why would a show on a broadcast network beating a show on a cable net be big news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, why would a show on a broadcast network beating a show on a cable net be big news?</p>
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		<title>By: RR Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>RR Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn&#039;t NBC try something so old it would seem new: program Saturday night. I grew up with CBS&#039;s Saturday night block.  I actually watched most of it before I went out at night when I was a kid.  Give me Law and Order and something compatible or some reasonably adult comedies(again, the old CBS block) and I&#039;ll watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t NBC try something so old it would seem new: program Saturday night. I grew up with CBS&#8217;s Saturday night block.  I actually watched most of it before I went out at night when I was a kid.  Give me Law and Order and something compatible or some reasonably adult comedies(again, the old CBS block) and I&#8217;ll watch.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a move. If it works - and i&#039;ll let the numbers gurus define the parameters of success - somebody at NBC is a genius. If not ... I haven&#039;t watched Leno or any of them since 1993, but my gut likes this move, and Leno is bulletproof regarding kibitzers. He&#039;s at the point now I don&#039;t think he even hears the critics, which us a good thing for a seasoned performer. Good luck, Jay Leno. More power to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a move. If it works &#8211; and i&#8217;ll let the numbers gurus define the parameters of success &#8211; somebody at NBC is a genius. If not &#8230; I haven&#8217;t watched Leno or any of them since 1993, but my gut likes this move, and Leno is bulletproof regarding kibitzers. He&#8217;s at the point now I don&#8217;t think he even hears the critics, which us a good thing for a seasoned performer. Good luck, Jay Leno. More power to you.</p>
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		<title>By: keith brewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith brewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so when r they going to replace o&#039;lberman on msnbc when LENO kicks his - - - ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so when r they going to replace o&#8217;lberman on msnbc when LENO kicks his &#8211; - &#8211; ???</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LouisC, I think you have a good idea about going with some of the British panel type comedy/news shows. I mean, we&#039;re already stealing every slightly successful scripted show from BBC, might as well take the successful cheap shows as well. (Personally, I&#039;d like to see Have I Got News For You.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LouisC, I think you have a good idea about going with some of the British panel type comedy/news shows. I mean, we&#8217;re already stealing every slightly successful scripted show from BBC, might as well take the successful cheap shows as well. (Personally, I&#8217;d like to see Have I Got News For You.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck would actually pair nicely with Reaper on CW if NBC did not want to pick it up for next season.  

As for the claims that Chuck is treading water, it is the only show to increase its viewship from the start of the year to date for NBC -- up a total of one million with a peak up of 1.25 million.  It comes just shy of 7 million this week and it holds its demo week-in, week-out.  In the new world order of NBC, that is a success.  

The following shows should be retired:

Earl -- has gone one season too far -- the tornado episode this year was a train wreck.  Jason Lee is phoning it in too.
L&amp;O -- time to bury the old dog, she just won&#039;t hunt no more.
Knight Rider -- honestly, I think we can all agree on this one.
Life -- I love it, I really do, but its demo numbers are not good at all.
K&amp;K -- the single worst comedy in the last 5 years to air on TV, in my opinion.

Shows already retiring or retired:

ER -- going out properly and with some dignity. A procedural never gets that.
My Own Worst Enemy -- good concept; bad execution.
Lipstick Jungle -- unappealling then, unappealing now.
Deal or No Deal -- when it came back as a special; nowhere near what it once was.

Shows to be modified or used differently:

Biggest Loser -- cut it to one hour; use two hour special for opener and closer.  Move to Sunday opposite Extreme Home Makeover at 8pm after football in winter.  
Medium -- keep as mid-season show with 13 show run -- Sundays after Biggest Loser.  

Just my thoughts, but if NBC really is going to cut and run.  I&#039;d:
1) Try to program a real Friday, like CBS -- target an audience and get it -- if that means Biggest Loser and some other reality show great. I won&#039;t watch, but I know my mom and sister-in-laws will.
2) Plan a real Sunday for after football -- men watch football; target men with something-like Chuck, Kings, Burn Notice, etc. and advertise the hell out of it during football season.  Again, target an audience and go out and get it.
3) Put your stars on Leno at 10pm; Put your stars in the hosting role of SNL.  

Wow that was fun to get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck would actually pair nicely with Reaper on CW if NBC did not want to pick it up for next season.  </p>
<p>As for the claims that Chuck is treading water, it is the only show to increase its viewship from the start of the year to date for NBC &#8212; up a total of one million with a peak up of 1.25 million.  It comes just shy of 7 million this week and it holds its demo week-in, week-out.  In the new world order of NBC, that is a success.  </p>
<p>The following shows should be retired:</p>
<p>Earl &#8212; has gone one season too far &#8212; the tornado episode this year was a train wreck.  Jason Lee is phoning it in too.<br />
L&amp;O &#8212; time to bury the old dog, she just won&#8217;t hunt no more.<br />
Knight Rider &#8212; honestly, I think we can all agree on this one.<br />
Life &#8212; I love it, I really do, but its demo numbers are not good at all.<br />
K&amp;K &#8212; the single worst comedy in the last 5 years to air on TV, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Shows already retiring or retired:</p>
<p>ER &#8212; going out properly and with some dignity. A procedural never gets that.<br />
My Own Worst Enemy &#8212; good concept; bad execution.<br />
Lipstick Jungle &#8212; unappealling then, unappealing now.<br />
Deal or No Deal &#8212; when it came back as a special; nowhere near what it once was.</p>
<p>Shows to be modified or used differently:</p>
<p>Biggest Loser &#8212; cut it to one hour; use two hour special for opener and closer.  Move to Sunday opposite Extreme Home Makeover at 8pm after football in winter.<br />
Medium &#8212; keep as mid-season show with 13 show run &#8212; Sundays after Biggest Loser.  </p>
<p>Just my thoughts, but if NBC really is going to cut and run.  I&#8217;d:<br />
1) Try to program a real Friday, like CBS &#8212; target an audience and get it &#8212; if that means Biggest Loser and some other reality show great. I won&#8217;t watch, but I know my mom and sister-in-laws will.<br />
2) Plan a real Sunday for after football &#8212; men watch football; target men with something-like Chuck, Kings, Burn Notice, etc. and advertise the hell out of it during football season.  Again, target an audience and go out and get it.<br />
3) Put your stars on Leno at 10pm; Put your stars in the hosting role of SNL.  </p>
<p>Wow that was fun to get out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understad why NBC would&#039;nt be able to get the hour back from the affiliates?
If they will not want to give it back just steal CW, Univision and My Network TV affiliates. A station would want to be affiliated with a network who will bring them more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understad why NBC would&#8217;nt be able to get the hour back from the affiliates?<br />
If they will not want to give it back just steal CW, Univision and My Network TV affiliates. A station would want to be affiliated with a network who will bring them more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will fail miserably and then the network will have to come up with five shows to replace the five hours of Leno.</description>
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		<title>By: LouisC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LouisC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saturday night used to feature some of the top-rated shows on television: Mary Tyler Moore, All in the Family, Carol Burnett, Bob Newhart. Now the networks have given up on Saturday night. So, if it&#039;s expendible, why not try the risky. What about faux-news like Jon Stewart and Colbert. Second City stuff. British programs in the original language. What about Keith Olbermann and/or Rachel Maddow with a That Was The Week That Was format? 

You don&#039;t need huge ratings to be a hit on Saturday night. You need to be exciting. Don&#039;t bury the audience before its dead. Is Cops the most entertaining program we can come up with on Saturday? CBS has Craig Ferguson who is one of the best talk show hosts on any network. Why not give him an hour or two on Saturday night? Who knows what might develop?

Leno won&#039;t be the last talk show to make it to primetime. This is just the beginning. Over 50 years ago, Pat Weaver saved network radio with an audacious experiment called Monitor, 40 hours a weekend, a show that broke the rules, a show that had no format. It lasted 20 years. He joked that it was a &quot;kaleidoscopic phantasmagoria,&quot; news, comedy, music, all together in one program. Network television needs its own kaleidoscopic phantasmagorias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday night used to feature some of the top-rated shows on television: Mary Tyler Moore, All in the Family, Carol Burnett, Bob Newhart. Now the networks have given up on Saturday night. So, if it&#8217;s expendible, why not try the risky. What about faux-news like Jon Stewart and Colbert. Second City stuff. British programs in the original language. What about Keith Olbermann and/or Rachel Maddow with a That Was The Week That Was format? </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need huge ratings to be a hit on Saturday night. You need to be exciting. Don&#8217;t bury the audience before its dead. Is Cops the most entertaining program we can come up with on Saturday? CBS has Craig Ferguson who is one of the best talk show hosts on any network. Why not give him an hour or two on Saturday night? Who knows what might develop?</p>
<p>Leno won&#8217;t be the last talk show to make it to primetime. This is just the beginning. Over 50 years ago, Pat Weaver saved network radio with an audacious experiment called Monitor, 40 hours a weekend, a show that broke the rules, a show that had no format. It lasted 20 years. He joked that it was a &#8220;kaleidoscopic phantasmagoria,&#8221; news, comedy, music, all together in one program. Network television needs its own kaleidoscopic phantasmagorias.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a bad move born of desperation and failure. HOWEVER, I do think it is much better than turning that extra hour over to the affiliates. Doing that would be very final. Once the affiliates took over, NBC would never get that hour back (kind of like FOX). At least this way NBC retains ownership of the 10:00 hour, so this could work as a short term solution, giving them something to air while they revamp their development department and try to get some shows that people will actually watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a bad move born of desperation and failure. HOWEVER, I do think it is much better than turning that extra hour over to the affiliates. Doing that would be very final. Once the affiliates took over, NBC would never get that hour back (kind of like FOX). At least this way NBC retains ownership of the 10:00 hour, so this could work as a short term solution, giving them something to air while they revamp their development department and try to get some shows that people will actually watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to point out that CBS aired Big Brother in 2000 six nights a week and NBC is not the first to offer the same show in prime time five nights a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to point out that CBS aired Big Brother in 2000 six nights a week and NBC is not the first to offer the same show in prime time five nights a week.</p>
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		<title>By: RViewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>RViewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oups that should have read &quot; don’t think it will work. Leno will go against some of CBS and ABC big shows&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oups that should have read &#8221; don’t think it will work. Leno will go against some of CBS and ABC big shows&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RViewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>RViewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,

I don&#039;t think it will work. Leno will go against some of CBS big shows. I don&#039;t think Leno will beat CSI:Miami, CSI:NY, Without a Trace, Private Pratice, Numbe3s even 11th hour would do good against Leno.

Then you will have shows like L&amp;O:SUV and L&amp;O that will go against The Mentalist on Monday and Criminal Minds and Lost on Wednesday or CSI and Grey on Thursday, they can try for Sunday but that is where we will find Cold Case and DH. So what is left for NBC Friday and Saturday nights. Not a lot of choices.

What NBC should have done was to fire both Zucker and Silverman, hire someone that will give the audience what it does want like CBS did with The Mentalist.
The Mentalist is a huge success for CBS because CBS gave its audience what it wanted, some may not like The Mentalist (I don&#039;t like it) but it is a success.

Instead of trying to get the next big hit NBC is going for cheap, easy solution that may work in the short run but not in the long run. I see this move as working maybe a month or two but not a season. Plus the real loser in this apart from the viewers who like scripted shows, is Conan O&#039;Brien. After an hour of Leno, who I am sure most guests will want to appear on his show since he will be in primetime, who will want to stay up, wait for the news so they can watch Conan? Not me unless he&#039;s got guests that I really want to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it will work. Leno will go against some of CBS big shows. I don&#8217;t think Leno will beat CSI:Miami, CSI:NY, Without a Trace, Private Pratice, Numbe3s even 11th hour would do good against Leno.</p>
<p>Then you will have shows like L&amp;O:SUV and L&amp;O that will go against The Mentalist on Monday and Criminal Minds and Lost on Wednesday or CSI and Grey on Thursday, they can try for Sunday but that is where we will find Cold Case and DH. So what is left for NBC Friday and Saturday nights. Not a lot of choices.</p>
<p>What NBC should have done was to fire both Zucker and Silverman, hire someone that will give the audience what it does want like CBS did with The Mentalist.<br />
The Mentalist is a huge success for CBS because CBS gave its audience what it wanted, some may not like The Mentalist (I don&#8217;t like it) but it is a success.</p>
<p>Instead of trying to get the next big hit NBC is going for cheap, easy solution that may work in the short run but not in the long run. I see this move as working maybe a month or two but not a season. Plus the real loser in this apart from the viewers who like scripted shows, is Conan O&#8217;Brien. After an hour of Leno, who I am sure most guests will want to appear on his show since he will be in primetime, who will want to stay up, wait for the news so they can watch Conan? Not me unless he&#8217;s got guests that I really want to see.</p>
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