Finally. Friday the 13th is here and so is Dollhouse, tonight at 9pm ET. By Saturday morning we’ll finally get a glimpse of ratings for Dollhouse (as well as Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Ghost Whisperer, Flashpoint and Numb3rs, Wife Swap, etc). But to tide you over until then, here’s a roundup of a few more reviews of Dollhouse:
To say there has been anticipatory buzz surrounding Joss Whedon’s return to television with Fox’s “Dollhouse” is like saying octo-mom has gotten some media attention. The moment Whedon announced the project, fans of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” and “Firefly” began their internal countdown. When bad things began to happen — the network wanted so many changes in the pilot that Whedon chucked it and began again from scratch — the buzz only got louder. – Joss Whedon’s ‘Dollhouse’ Seems Too Empty by Mary McNamara, Los Angeles Times
Slices of mumbo don’t come much more jumbo than this new entry from producer Joss Whedon; it’s enough to make one long for the days when TV dramas were criticized for being too pat, too predictable, too much like one another. Whedon, who directed the pilot, certainly dressed it up stylishly, but I’ll take simple coherence over fancy-pants trappings any day. After all, this is television, not an art-house cinema in Greenwich Village. – ‘Dollhouse’ Deserves To Be Condemned – by Tom Shales, The Washington Post
Unfortunately, he’s expending his considerable talents on an empty-vessel premise that probably couldn’t support a series even were it more adroitly cast, or didn’t resemble the already dismissed My Own Worst Enemy. The result is a show that his most devoted fans will debate and embrace, and a mass audience just won’t get. – Fox’s ‘Dollhouse’ is its own worst enemy by Robert Bianco, USA Today
Viewers may also have trouble maintaining interest in the perils of Echo, even if Agent Ballard can help salvage some of her memory banks. “Dollhouse” has an amusing premise, but the universe it inhabits in the early episodes is thin and bland. The sinister corporation behind the Dollhouse is ill-defined, and the show’s main characters are one-dimensional, including the real-life dolls. The plot lacks the metaphoric allusions and richly imagined contexts that enliven other science-fiction series like “Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles” and “Battlestar Galactica.” – Directions: Brainwash, Rinse, Repeat by Alessandra Stanley, The New York Times
Unfortunately, it’s a disappointment. It lacks the humor and vivid characters of Buffy and Firefly, which might be OK if the plots were more compelling, but that hasn’t been the case in the three episodes sent for review. The show has a good premise but wastes it with derivative storytelling, the kind of stuff Whedon avoided when Buffy and Firefly simultaneously tweaked and respected their genres. – ‘Dollhouse’ lacks the teeth of producer’s earlier series – Robert Philpot, Star-Telegram
I know this now because I just watched Fox’s new, much-hyped show “Dollhouse,” from the guy who brought you “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” and “Angel.” And unlike the aforementioned ideal date that went south, I’m not in love, but I am intrigued. – Dream ‘Doll’, ‘Buffy’ Creator Back With Mind-Erasing Fun Linda Stasi, New York Post (she gave it three out of four stars)
If you want more, here’s a link to a Google News search that should sate you. Personally, I’d love to see the show get 12 million and a 4.0 rating in the 18-49 demo. All hell would break loose and that would be kind of fun. But so would Gisele Bundchen randomly showing up at my doorstep and that isn’t going to happen either.
My prediction: 6.3 million and a 2.3 rating among 18-49 year olds for Friday’s premiere.
id say 6-7m viewers. and 2-2.5 in the demo.
but i wouldnt be suprised if it did worse.
the reviews are disappointing.
i predict 5 million viewers and 1.7-1.8 in the demo. yeah, im pessimistic..
Are FOX going to air the back door Prison Break spinoff on Friday night or will they give it another ime slot? (they’re currently casting for episode 23 / 24 set a womens Prison with Jodi Lyn O’Keefe’s Gretchen Morgan back)
who cares about what dollhouse gets i just hope and pray Terminator improves.
i hope dollhouse gets good ratings along with terminator. i like eliza dushku so i hope the series for her is a success
Ghost Whisperer didn’t (and still doesn’t for most part) get the greatest reviews when it came out either. With all the promotion both TSCC & DollHouse are getting, at least 5-6 million for the premier episodes with a 1.8 in the demos that matter is my prediction.
I’ve seen better reviews elsewhere (IGN) And for the ratings, I think it’s gonna be better than we expect. When everyone is talking about something, they will at least drop by and check the first episode!
I can’t decide if this will be a surprise hit or a huge flop.
At least the nutters can’t whine that FOX never promoted the show.
Well, they WILL, but they have no factual basis to do so.
(Yes, I’m watching it. )
“Everyone” isn’t talking about Dollhouse. Whedonites and people posting on sites like this, maybe.
If it gets over 5 million viewers, I’d be shocked. I’m expecting 4 million.
FOX needs to take note of the reviews and possibly learn to leave the showrunning to the guy they hired to do it instead of trying to convince themselves they are one of those “creative types”.
Joss keeps imploring people to stick with it and seems to hint that it will get better, but, for the most part, critics aren’t going to re-review the show in their papers/magazine when episode 8 hits. First impressions are everything.
I have liked Whedon’s stuff, but never to the extent that his more ardent fans have. I was a Johnny Come lately to Firefly, which I regret.
This premise just doesn’t interest me.
Ouch those reviews suggest a real mess.
all the reviews are so disheartening. give the show some time to flesh itself out. joss says he has five seasons of story/character growth mapped out. i’m not going to drop it after not being immediately satisfied. joss has always come through before.
my guess is 8-9 million (i am somewhat of an optimist)
if terminator can get at least 6.5 million, it’ll be doing great! i really love that show (summer glau) and hope it survives for another season.
It seems this horse has been declared dead even before it has ever made it to a race. I am an optimist so my DVR has already been programed to record the entire series (ever how long it may last). I generally rely on my own enjoyment regardless of what the previewers say. Sometimes the creator’s original vision for a project is more knowable than the suits that control programing. Fox was smarter than NBC when they took House from them and maybe they will win with this one. Friday nights time slots are filling up with some very good shows because the suits will take a chance on a show on this normally weak programing night. What seems to be overlooked is DVRs are changing viewing patterns and to me when a show is available no longer matters if the viewer has enough tuners to record the program to view later. The only drawback is as I understand it for ratings the earlier viewed the better for ratings. I have 10 tuners available so I can record 10 programs at any given time and be watching a 11th one at the same time. I miss very few programs I want to watch and do not have to choose between competing shows, because of this, the networks should take first and second choice ratings into consideration before cancellation a program.
Even though i am a huge fan of Whedons work i just can’t exited about this show. It might get great numbers tonight, but after that it will fall like a rock
I’ll take the under on a 2.0 in the demo
I was a huge fan of Buffy (seasons 1-5, anyway) and Angel, but never got into Firefly. I enjoyed acts 1 & 2 of Dr. Horrible, but then, as Joss always does, he screwed over the characters for the sake of “drama”.
He may have things mapped out for five seasons of Dollhouse, but I don’t feel like investing the time into characters that are just going to be hurt over and over. Much better ways to spend my time, honestly.
That, coupled with the numerous pans, and the fact that the premise of this show is just not that interesting – yeah, I won’t be watching Dollhouse.
On the other hand, WOO!! Terminator is back!! I hope that all the hype over Dollhouse results in a lift for TSCC.
I’ll go with it.
Predictions?
8 million and a 2.8 rating among 18-49 year olds
The big thing is the most read source for news for its target demo rated it a 7.5/10. More people in their target demo read IGN than all the above sources for Robert combined.
7 million will be lucky, with the crappy Terminator lead in overall ratings could go down. I’d say 6 mill.
I could see as many as 7 million with a 2.5 for the premiere.
On the other hand, I see the show losing 40% or more of that within four weeks, in guaranteed cancellation territory by the end of March sweeps.
hell, these reviews make me think this is one for the masses. You know, joe blow and his friends. A desperate housewives for men. Maybe, who knows?
Prediction Week 1: 2.5 in the demo
Week 2: 2.3
Week 3: 2.3
I just cannot believe some of you who are predicting in the 7-8 million range. You’re talking this thing being an ENORMOUS hit for Fox (come on – 7-8 million on a Friday night?) and probably it’s biggest hit on Friday in almost EVER.
This thing IS DOA. Fox and Joss can BARELY even promote it without qualifiers. When you have to keep saying “give it time… give it time…” while promoting it, you’re in trouble. It’s great Joss has a 5 year plan, but he SHOULD be looking at a 13 episode plan, because that is all he’s getting. He can go ahead and see if Universal is interetested in doing a Dollhouse movie to wrap up the series right now if he’s somehow under the delusion that this thing is gonna go another year…
At the same time, he is calling Terminator a “ridiculously good” show, so I’m not sure Joss is in a good place right now.
But, Friday is where Fox sends shows to die. There is a huge track record of that being the case, so I am not sure how anyone can be optimistic. If Fox wanted to put some effort into this show, it would’ve kept it’s original timeslot.
I will be extremely happy to be wrong, though, if some miracle happens. At least, for Joss’ sake since he has yet to do something I haven’t loved.
Its going to take over Idol and be the best ever show!! The next Cheer, or Seinfeld!!! Yea way!
5.2 mil
I think the first show will have a semi-good viwer rating of about 9 million but the next week it will drop off sharply. I say this because the public sometimes has an original interest in things that are said to be awful, just to see how bad it really is. Like “Snakes On A Plane”…
Sadly I’m only expecting about 5 million for Terminator.
9.5 million viewers and 3.1 ratings yes i know i’m pessimistic…
Well if the reviews say it sucks then the show will be a huge hit!
I say 6.2m tops, with next couple getting around a 4.2-4.6m. It will be replaced with repeats of House by the 5th episode.
4.16 million
A18-49: 1.8
yes ann you’re really pessimistic. i don’t know people will enjoy the show in the next weeks, but series premiere will have more than 10 million and 3.5 in the ratings. terminator will have 6.7 million and 2.7 in the ratings. last year over 18 million saw the series premiere and know that the show is in a new slot, and there’s no possibility to see it again next year, maybe some old fan will get it tonight to save it
6.7 million 2.3 18-49
Even though I’m not interested in the show myself, I hope it does well if only to make the Whedonites lose their persecution complex.
5.5 million, 2.0 demo!
I’ll be watching, but I’m getting overwhelmed with my Friday night shows. I watch, Psych, FNL, TSCC, Numb3rs, BSG and now Dollhouse.
Just want to say “on the floor LMAO” from the newspaper critics reviews.
Gotta watch for curiosity sake now…to see how bad is it. LMAO
Week 1 5.5m, 2.0
Week 2 4.4m, 1.6
Week 3 3.8m, 1.3
Week 4 CANCELLED!!!!!!!!
Joss sucks and so do his shows!
7.17 million viewers; A18-49: 2.6
How did predicting 9.5 million possibly fall under “pessimistic” ??
Chris, i think the pessimism in that case was sarcasm aimed at one of the very first comments to the post. but i could be wrong.
6.5M viewers,2.4 in the demo for the first week, with 8M/2.8 in the first half hour, going down to 5M/2.0 in second half. People will tune in, and if it is has bad has it is panned they will tune out.
Look, the X Files survived Friday Nights. Also, Fox is not under the same management as it was during Firefly. At NBC, Kevin Reilly had a history of renewing shows despite poor ratings. Who do you think stuck behind FNL? That was Kevin Reilly. I see no reason why he would treat Dollhouse or Terminator (other than the fact that he doesn’t like the Terminator show) differently!
With that said I’m predicting somewhere in between 6-8 million viewers and a 2.5 in the demos. However, what if it got 4 million and a 2.5 to 3.0 in the demos?
Interestingly, METACRITIC is showing that Robert found the worst reviews to quote from! It’s currently set in the “mixed to average,” reviews. Which is about what I said the pilot was.
I’m curious about the show, but not excited. I’m a huge Joss fan and the fact that he’s done so well in the past will probably draw in tons of viewers for tonight.
5.8 million, 2.2 demo. Growth of about 5% at 9:30.
Nick, I’d say that’s difficult to be caused by random sampling, I call selection bias!
Well, Eliza Dushku is Yahoo’s #1 search today, if that indicates anything.
I can’t believe it… only 3 more hours til Friday night (on the East coast, at least) begins!!
4.7 million
chuck
Bill, you don’t say
Metacritic uses Red (bad), yellow (average), and Green (good) to color code their findings. They have DOLLHOUSE in the yellow, where this report would make it seem like it would be in the red.
It’s not great, but it doesn’t suck, and it gets better.
Still it’s pointless we all know I’ve been saying 4.3M for weeks now. After all the promos though, it may break 5.5M … but I’m sticking with the 4.3M. Call me an optimist.
EW.com
“As far as Dollhouse goes, it gets a B- from me in the new issue of — what else? — Entertainment Weekly. But the more I think about it, and the more negative reviews I read of the show, the more it brings out the protective side of me. I want Whedon to succeed as much as possible, because he’s been so endlessly inventive in the past, from Buffy to Dr. Horrible. But is that a reason to give a higher grade to a show I think has more weaknesses than his earlier work? No. I have to be honest in my opinion. That’s what’s only fair to you, in trying to help guide you to the best stuff.
But I really want you to check out Dollhouse. And I wonder about my main worry about the show — that, as I put it in my review, if star Eliza Dushku, as Echo, portrays a different character every week, “we have to start from scratch with each installment and buy into Echo’s new personality. The result: no consistent hero to root for with each edition.”
I’m having second thoughts about that complaint. Maybe it sells you, the audience, short. The concept kept me from getting fully invested in Dollhouse, but as I watched more episodes that Fox sent, the less it bothered me. So that’s a good sign. Bottom line: I’m letting you in on one of the not-so-secret secrets of being a critic: Sometimes we doubt our original judgments. Maybe Dollhouse deserves a solid B.”
I guess critics are having second thoughts. And if it gets better…
I predict 23.8 million and a 9.5 in the demo…….and the pope is Jewish.
i don’t give a crap about Dollhouse i’m just anxious to see what terminator gets
I will be watching Dollhouse but at 2 AM due to me working an extra shift tonight. Dollhouse is one of the new shows this season I have been wanting to see and I don’t get excited over new shows easily.
JT, are you kidding? Nothing gets 23 million on Friday Nights.
Nick, lol, but you’re full of crap! There definitely was some selection bias, but it boiled down to a.) mainstream media (which I would agree doesn’t hit Whedon’s non Joe Blow target, and that something like IGN does), and b.) recency, I didn’t include things that were days and weeks old.
But via complete randomness, I actually wound up with a somewhat well balanced distribution of reviews by the Metacritic color coding standards. Of the six reviews excerpted above, two were green, two were yellow and two were red according to Metacritic.
So to say that I found the worst reviews to quote from is BS. I did find two of the worst reviews to quote from, but the other four out of the six were not among the worst reviews.
Y, JT: 23.8 million on Friday Night for Seinfeld? He’s coming back?!
“Exclusive – Seinfeld is coming back to television on Friday nights!”
Yeah – doesn’t NBC wish!
Robert, Bill – be sure to give Y the credit for the exclusive when Michael Ausiello prints this “exclusive” in EW next week…
…and JT – I didn’t know Mel Brooks was the Pope
Robert, I don’t know what you used for your selection process. I know 3 of your 6 were 3 of the worst 6 reviews out of the 27 reviews that Metacritic has up. One of your 6 which was green didnt even have a good quote from it.
Nick, again, two green, two yellow and two red. That the the two red reviews from the LA Times and Washington Post happen to be two reviews from publications I regular read and were extremely recent at the time I did the post AND two of the worst reviews is coincidental.
I know you’re not happy because regardless of the reviews the results won’t change the JJ > Joss balance of power, but you’ll survive (and so will Joss!)
5.5 million, 1.9, and a big drop next week.
Nick, are you really accusing Robert of trying to sabatoge the show’s ratings by sticking all the bad reviews from metacritic up? Seriously? You’re coming off as a gigantic Joss fanboy. I’d guarantee if this was about the first few episodes of a new JJ Abrams series, we wouldn’t be hearing from you at all or you’d be giving us an “I told you so” speech. Put a sock in it, and if you like the show, then watch it. Nobody’s stopping you.
Wow, not much good reviews for Dollhouse. Now I’m intrigued to find what’s this all about.
Robert is master of his domain, Vader – he could sabotage the ratings of any show that Nick likes, just for fits and giggles…
…five minutes to Terminator, sixty-five to Dollhouse – last call for alcohol
HA! If I could manipulate the ratings CHUCK would be top 10 show, LIFE would be a demo powerhouse and SUPERNATURAL would best GREY’S ANATOMY!
Hmm, no mention of wanting Dollhouse to succeed. Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.
Good thing for everyone here that I’m not you – my avatar is a clue as to my very favorite show, which would probably unite everyone here into throwing their tv’s out of their windows – or me…
…as far as I am concerned, a Ronco infomercial could best Grey’s Anatomy, and that would be fine by me – mind you, I don’t watch anything at that hour, between Ugly Betty and ER, so it doesn’t matter much to me
Vader, nope. I was just suggesting that the data displayed wasn’t a fair assessment of how reviews were going.
Robert, still it’s 3 of the worst 6 reviews according to metacritic. I’m not blaming you of anything, I’m just pointing it out that you have randomly selected a group of reviews that sheds more poor light on the subject matter.
I could care less about whether Whedon does better than JJ. I think 60% of Whedon’s body of work is total crap. ALIEN RESSURECTION? crap. BUFFY (the movie)? crap. BUFFY Seasons 1,4+ crap, ANGEL the season run by him… saved by Ben Edlund. FIREFLY is the only work of his I was really impressed with, and that wasn’t all perfect either.
I just have a problem with this idea that FOX doesn’t care, wants it to die, hates it, and people burying it before it airs. It will most definitely fail, but I think it will have little to do with the quality. I think it will have more to do with wrong place, wrong time, and not good enough from the starting block.
Robert, I’d also like to see both TSCC and DOLLHOUSE do well just to prove that Friday shouldn’t be a wasteland of crap to choose from on TV. I think that is the REAL underlying factor of my interest in all this. I very much would like networks to quit being idiots about certain nights. To me, there is no “bad night,” but I remember when ABC and CBS both had Friday Nights that were amazing (for ratings).
Nick, I remember when Saturday nights were contenders, too. It’s hard to say whether the networks gave up or the audience left.
Julia, the networks gave up. Heck, I’d like to say good tv is good tv and the audiences will flock to find it, but the old ABC lineup on Fridays (their TGIF lineup) was total crap. I don’t know why people watched that stuff. CBS doing well with DUKES OF HAZZARD isn’t much of an example of good tv either.
I’d say 4 million mid range. Not even close to five million. Then next week dropping sharply. The show won’t last. Its not a mainstream show, so it won’t get above 5 million. It might on the first week, but definitely not after that.
7-8 million as my prediction.
I’m not expecting much from the show. I’m sure it will be confusing.
Okay, I’ve seen the first episode and it SUCKED. Based on that one, the show doesn’t deseve to make it. I was really hoping for it to be good, too. Buffy and Angel were among my favorite programs.
Now I see why Fox buried this dog on Friday night. It’s simply awful.
I watched terminator for the first time tonight…..I was really lost but thought it was a ok show!I also watched dollhouse and was sorta lost at the story arc of it??? I thought it found some mojo near the last 30 mins ….the first 30 mins were confusing and not much content for me!!!
Dollhouse was good. I liked how the personas Echo is implanted with have flaws, and that they carry over into the engagement. It makes things more intersting.
Julia and Nick, regarding Friday and Saturday “wasteland” concerns: It’s more complicated than Point A (audience went away) versus Point B (networks gave up). There’s also Point C- recording devices became affordable and usable for the majority of average Joe Viewers. There’s Point D – Nielsen has moved from diaries to People Meters in most major markets. It was a lot easier for Joe Nielsenviewer to write “oh yeah, I forget, but I probably watched the Dukes of Hazzard” in a diary than it is for him to fake out a meter. The counting – dare I say it as an anti-Nielsen conspiracy theorist?!? – is probably more accurate now than ever before. Let’s not forget Point E – cable TV, including movies. And Point F – renting movies to watch at home. In the years that Friday and Saturday have drifted, it’s not entirely because networks gave up. Like any business, they must focus their investments in areas of greatest potential gain.
A year ago, I never believed I could make the following statement, but now I stand corrected: Kudos to CBS for finding a way to keep Friday nights a reasonably-rated, profitable venture for scripted dramas. Flashpoint really seems to be working (unless tonight’s ratings took a dive). That completes a 10-million-plus viewer average for new episodes on Fridays, in the main three-hour prime time block. I don’t know critics’ opinions on GW, Flashpoint, or Numb3rs. But the ratings are holding up well now.
I just woke up from the pilot… that was a good nap.
How can’t people understand the show? It’s extremely easy to follow.
@Clutz
I did the diary thing once, and it was very recently, so they still use those somewhat. I live in a small market though. They gave me one for all like, 5 TVs in my house. So, as any compulsive liar who’s totally dedicated to his favorite TV shows would do, I wrote down the same shows that I love in all 5 diaries. And I wrote that everyone in my family watched them, even though I was the only one that I did.
I want Chuck renewed. Sue me.
oh my, that was an incredibly weak pilot.
Hey Terry, cool that you checked out Terminator! Try to stay tuned to it.
Ok, having surfed to several websites, I’m going to predict that DH opens huge (for a Friday) with a major dropoff at the the 1/2 hour.
This will be Friday’s Bionic Woman.
The pilot for Dollhouse was not bad. It was fairly promising and very easy to understand. As with all other Whedon programs, I expect it to improve significantly in the coming weeks. Neither Firefly nor Buffy started off extremely well. Unfortunately, buried in this timeslot, I doubt the pilot exceeded a 2.0 rating in the demo.
Linking to any review by Tom Shales makes the baby Jesus cry. Tom Shales hates all sci-fi. And he doesn’t understand anything even remotely complex. He calls sci-fi shows too complicated, too outlandish, and/or too ridiculous. His review says the show lacks “simple coherence” — a code phrase translating to “understandable for morons like Tom Shales.”
He also snarks about all the money spent on the Dollhouse set. If I remember correctly, Shales was a big fan of trash like the original 90210 and/or Melrose Place. I don’t think he complained about “money spent on interior decorating” in those programs.
The Washington Post is largely an excellent paper and deserves a better TV critic — one who is intelligent enough to understand the very basic concepts in a show like Dollhouse, and one who doesn’t long for “predictable” and “pat” programs.
The Dollhouse pilot certainly had its problems, such as a pointless and poorly-done motorcycle chase at the beginning of the episode, and maybe a lack of humor in the dialogue. The characters needed more development as well, but there wasn’t time for that (as I hope there will be in future episodes).
Shales dismisses the idea that TV can be “arthouse,” meaning that his tastes are absurdly pedestrian and bland. If TV can’t be “arthouse” then what the heck was The Wire, for frakking out loud? Not that I think Dollhouse is anything like The Wire, or anywhere near as good and arty and grandly inaccessible.
Well, that was good. And the people’s critics looks pretty good to. So I’m gonna stay tuned. Andd hope it does well.
the critics are very mixed.
I liked it.
@Jesse, some folks in my market still do diaries too, though I never have. Nielsen is more reliant on meters now than in “Dukes of Hazzard” times, but the diaries still exist. The diaries probably still get filled out a lot like yours
. Who’s to stop a panelist from writing down the things he or she likes for every possible viewer he or she can claim? Good luck with Chuck 
I missed the pilot, so I cannot or critique it. Seeing as I missed it because I was at a Monster Truck Rally, I’m sure I would have been too stupid to understand it anyway
The ratings we see everyday do not include diaries, since you don’t send them in daily. They are still used for local market ratings in many markets, even some of the bigger ones. (Orlando just switched to LPMs last month.) They also still use them for sweeps, when they increase the sample size exponentially.
FOX needs to take back all the money they threw at Joss Whedon and give it to the set designer and the DP. They’re the only talent evident here. There was certainly none evident from Joss. Well, maybe a little evident from Fran Kranz, whom I’m sure will find a better project when this gets cancelled.
Whatever viewers it got last night, I predict it’s twice as many as it gets next week.
Riff, I’m sure Whedon did the best he could with that pilot under the circumstances. The question is does Whedon do his normal thing of improving the show through writing and production? The set design is amazing.
its unbearable waiting for the ratings of this and TSCC.
The problem is that they didn’t use the original pilot Whedon wrote. This rush job was essentially Dollhouse’s “Train Job”, if you will, even if Joss keeps saying he agreed with them.
This show will be canceled after 4 shows. And it should have never made it to air. Joss is phoning it in maybe its payback to Fox for how he was treated with other shows. You had your chance to grab me with the first show but you failed to deliver. I heard they rewritten the show 5 times… maybe six times would have worked.
I think it will last the full season, but its definitely not gonna get a second season, Terminator won’t get a third.
Mike, well it did well enough to show that it likely will get renewed if it can keep similar numbers for the season or even slightly lower numbers.
Horrible opening episode – talk about fostering females-as-victims stereotypes. Not one good moment in the entire show.
It’s interesting, Nick. Your first comment this morning about the ratings was that 2.0 was right where it starts to get interesting for FOX and where they will have a tough choice to make. Now 2.0 is definitely renewable and even lower would still be good.
I don’t know why anyone listens to the critics. Critics Jobs are to make everything look bad except for the stuff that is bad, then they give those good reviews. I cannot stand to here people deciding if they want to watch a show based on the reviews of anothers. Come on people have your own opinion and stop listening to these idiots who write these crappy reviews. I saw Dollhouse and I am very happy with the pilot. I really like the show alot, and If I would have read these reviews before hand, I still would have watched. Not everyone has the same opinion so thats why I think critics are pointless and they need to cheer-up and get a real job.
tvmegafan, as a mega fan, I’m sure you’ve seen the episode of The Simpsons where Homer becomes a food critic. The entire town becomes obese because he gives everything great reviews. Do you really want that to happen in real life? Critics are saving our lives!
I love to watch Eliza Dushku-I absolutely loved her in Tru Calling. However the limits of her acting ability are laid bare in this one episode. It was ass-poorly edited, and required multiple viewing to make sense. I really dont care about the characters at all, I was bored by it quite quickly. So it is thumbs down from the sloth monster, I hope that Fox can come up with a series that can grab my imagination, I sure wont be wasting another moment watching this. Joss- make another series like Firefly, this was excellent TV from the get-go. Cancel this turd.
Sadly, it doesn’t make any difference about anything but ratings. This is 2009 and pulling barely 4 million [the television mendoza line] isn’t going to do it, I don’t care who wrote it or how many times it was rewritten. Running it on Friday simply means Fox could care less, and is already looking past it. To me the show looks like a cross between “Alias” and “It’s own worst Enemy” without the humor, intrigue, or sexiness of the aforementioned shows. As to the acting, most of the regulars are phoning it in [be honest] and the lead, while sexy as always, has limited emotions once again [as always] and is constantly getting beaten up or used as a prostitute. Add to that there is no running storyline [except that she has a different personality each week, where she has flashbacks that almost kill her]. If you consider that with the current Network TV status Josh’s Firefly wouldn’t last 3 episodes, I’ll hope for 4 episodes actually shot before Fox tosses this one out with the bathwater. No way this show televises 6 episodes, maybe we will be able to buy the DVD in 6 months and see how the first year ends.
i really loved the show
i’m from m,exico and i reaaly loved the pilot, dushku and the hole history
it was awesome, unfortunatlely will be cancelled i know that
on fryday’s night c’monmondays are perfect c’mon fox give joss and gorgeous dushku a chance it will be a great show
Im just wondering about the people who actually LIKE this show! this is not good. its bad acting as usual out of Eliza Dushku, and it never once had me so gripped i wanted to know what would happen next. its lame. i had to force myself to watch it, and i wouldnt make that mistake again!