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	<title>Comments on: Why being a &#8220;hit&#8221; on iTunes doesn&#8217;t matter yet</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-62993</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting article, yet you assume that the advertising format of tv will remain the same.  Doesn&#039;t this 32 commercials per hour of content have to change, especially as more and more people aren&#039;t watching commercials and speed right through them?  God forbid there are more overlay ads during the program, but aren&#039;t more advertisers going to be more demanding of networks?  Or is the sheer scale of reach still that much higher, and when paired with the fact that every household in the country has a tv set, that tv is still the preferred way of advertising?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting article, yet you assume that the advertising format of tv will remain the same.  Doesn&#8217;t this 32 commercials per hour of content have to change, especially as more and more people aren&#8217;t watching commercials and speed right through them?  God forbid there are more overlay ads during the program, but aren&#8217;t more advertisers going to be more demanding of networks?  Or is the sheer scale of reach still that much higher, and when paired with the fact that every household in the country has a tv set, that tv is still the preferred way of advertising?</p>
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		<title>By: Is Hulu Driving People Back to Piracy?&#160;&#124;&#160;Viral Video Maker</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51798</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Hulu Driving People Back to Piracy?&#160;&#124;&#160;Viral Video Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back then, because hardly anyone watched TV shows via iTunes. (In fact, some argue that iTunes still doesn&#8217;t really count.) Licensing-based blackouts like the recent move by Hulu to disable content on TV.com, on the other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back then, because hardly anyone watched TV shows via iTunes. (In fact, some argue that iTunes still doesn&#8217;t really count.) Licensing-based blackouts like the recent move by Hulu to disable content on TV.com, on the other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is Hulu Driving People Back to Piracy? &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51795</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Hulu Driving People Back to Piracy? &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back then, because hardly anyone watched TV shows via iTunes. (In fact, some argue that iTunes still doesn&#8217;t really count.) Licensing-based blackouts like the recent move by Hulu to disable content on TV.com, on the other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back then, because hardly anyone watched TV shows via iTunes. (In fact, some argue that iTunes still doesn&#8217;t really count.) Licensing-based blackouts like the recent move by Hulu to disable content on TV.com, on the other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Heresy: Debunking New Media Utopianism</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51483</link>
		<dc:creator>Heresy: Debunking New Media Utopianism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up, TV by the Numbers explains why being the number one download on iTunes doesn&#8217;t matter in the decision about whether or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: B-Side - The audience is never wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Being a hit on iTunes doesn&#8217;t matter - yet.</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51366</link>
		<dc:creator>B-Side - The audience is never wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Being a hit on iTunes doesn&#8217;t matter - yet.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the entire article on TV by the Numbers. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51355</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Nick - but when you think that that extra million viewers, for an entire season, doesn&#039;t cover the cost of a single episode you have to say that the medium is not ripe yet.  Sure the money is appreciated but the industry is having real challenges when it comes to monetizing online viewership.  Let&#039;s take the numbers from above and combine it with yours, so with 10 million viewers they still can&#039;t cover their negative costs for the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Nick &#8211; but when you think that that extra million viewers, for an entire season, doesn&#8217;t cover the cost of a single episode you have to say that the medium is not ripe yet.  Sure the money is appreciated but the industry is having real challenges when it comes to monetizing online viewership.  Let&#8217;s take the numbers from above and combine it with yours, so with 10 million viewers they still can&#8217;t cover their negative costs for the season.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51325</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noah, that might be but Hulu has some TV shows that get watched fully by more than 1M viewers.  Those TV shows are getting the full $60 CPM.  So a show like HEROES is making an extra $180,000 per episode just from Hulu.  While that isn&#039;t &quot;great,&quot; money it&#039;s not bad money either.  

It&#039;s definitely not an outlet yet for Indies, but it can make a reasonable extra amount for the Networks.  You&#039;re talking about an extra $4M for a season of HEROES for example.  While no where near great, it&#039;s a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah, that might be but Hulu has some TV shows that get watched fully by more than 1M viewers.  Those TV shows are getting the full $60 CPM.  So a show like HEROES is making an extra $180,000 per episode just from Hulu.  While that isn&#8217;t &#8220;great,&#8221; money it&#8217;s not bad money either.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely not an outlet yet for Indies, but it can make a reasonable extra amount for the Networks.  You&#8217;re talking about an extra $4M for a season of HEROES for example.  While no where near great, it&#8217;s a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51323</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - Thanks for this piece.  It&#039;s well done.  As for Hulu, I posted a detailed breakdown of how the revenue from Hulu flows back to filmmakers for features in an article this summer on the Filmmaker Magazine blog (http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/blog/2008/08/pennies-and-eyeballs.php).  A 90-minute feature film on Hulu, watched in its entirety by 100,000 users could yield the content provider as little as $8,000 or $.08/viewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; Thanks for this piece.  It&#8217;s well done.  As for Hulu, I posted a detailed breakdown of how the revenue from Hulu flows back to filmmakers for features in an article this summer on the Filmmaker Magazine blog (<a href="http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/blog/2008/08/pennies-and-eyeballs.php)" rel="nofollow">http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/blog/2008/08/pennies-and-eyeballs.php)</a>.  A 90-minute feature film on Hulu, watched in its entirety by 100,000 users could yield the content provider as little as $8,000 or $.08/viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: iTunes and Hulu Bring Digital Pennies &#124; Movies On iTunes</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51320</link>
		<dc:creator>iTunes and Hulu Bring Digital Pennies &#124; Movies On iTunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robert Seidman at tvbythenumbers, using high level number crunching, without simplifying too much, argues that there is not much money in Internet distribution. Let’s say that a traditional TV broadcast network strives to have a $25 CPM for its commercial spots in prime time.  In other words, it wants to sell its advertising at a rate of $25 per 1,000 people.  Obviously scale matters, so in this 50,000 foot view example, if 10 million people watch a show, that means the network can sell each commercial spot  for $250,000. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Robert Seidman at tvbythenumbers, using high level number crunching, without simplifying too much, argues that there is not much money in Internet distribution. Let’s say that a traditional TV broadcast network strives to have a $25 CPM for its commercial spots in prime time.  In other words, it wants to sell its advertising at a rate of $25 per 1,000 people.  Obviously scale matters, so in this 50,000 foot view example, if 10 million people watch a show, that means the network can sell each commercial spot  for $250,000. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: idizzle</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51232</link>
		<dc:creator>idizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing CBS said pretty outright in the midst of the Jericho renewal was &#039;okay, we accept the premise that there is some significant yet untapped audience for Jericho as shown by internet popularity etc, but you absolutely have to get them watching the live broadcast or we really don&#039;t give a shit about them.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing CBS said pretty outright in the midst of the Jericho renewal was &#8216;okay, we accept the premise that there is some significant yet untapped audience for Jericho as shown by internet popularity etc, but you absolutely have to get them watching the live broadcast or we really don&#8217;t give a shit about them.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good stuff. I posted on the other article that I thought online popularity(and of course the expected DVD popularity) could help Dollhouse. It may be insignificant in terms of Revenue, but for a show on the bubble anything could help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good stuff. I posted on the other article that I thought online popularity(and of course the expected DVD popularity) could help Dollhouse. It may be insignificant in terms of Revenue, but for a show on the bubble anything could help.</p>
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		<title>By: Vid-Biz: iTunes, Watchmen, Adidas.tv &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51164</link>
		<dc:creator>Vid-Biz: iTunes, Watchmen, Adidas.tv &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vid-Biz: iTunes, Watchmen,&#160;Adidas.tv  Why Being a Hit on iTunes Isn&#8217;t So Great; Robert Seidman looks at the economics of being number one at Apple&#8217;s download store and find there just isn&#8217;t enough there yet. (TVbytheNumbers) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vid-Biz: iTunes, Watchmen,&nbsp;Adidas.tv  Why Being a Hit on iTunes Isn&#8217;t So Great; Robert Seidman looks at the economics of being number one at Apple&#8217;s download store and find there just isn&#8217;t enough there yet. (TVbytheNumbers) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christy0405</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51163</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy0405</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for my english but maybe, in the future, it wont matter because of the commercial &quot;inside&quot; the tv show like90210 with sidekick mobile ou Dr Pepper...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for my english but maybe, in the future, it wont matter because of the commercial &#8220;inside&#8221; the tv show like90210 with sidekick mobile ou Dr Pepper&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51144</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cosimoto, because NBC provides such a rich amount of data, we can. And it still doesn&#039;t matter yet. Not for Heroes (NBC&#039;s #1 downloaded show) and not for The Office.  But those shows definitely do get more downloads than 25,000, but typically, after a week, Heroes has less than 50,000 downloads (but people keep downloading them for weeks). The Dollhouse example was 25,000 but that was after less than 3 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cosimoto, because NBC provides such a rich amount of data, we can. And it still doesn&#8217;t matter yet. Not for Heroes (NBC&#8217;s #1 downloaded show) and not for The Office.  But those shows definitely do get more downloads than 25,000, but typically, after a week, Heroes has less than 50,000 downloads (but people keep downloading them for weeks). The Dollhouse example was 25,000 but that was after less than 3 days.</p>
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		<title>By: cosimoto</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51118</link>
		<dc:creator>cosimoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure Dollhouse with one episode under it&#039;s belt it the best test case for this theory. The vast majority of views don&#039;t even know about, even on the Internet where Whedon and Dusku&#039;s fans primarily live. Run the numbers on a more established show like &quot;The Office&quot; and you&#039;ll see a much more viable business. Certainly not ready to give the b&#039;cast networks a run for their money, but then again *that* business model is fairly broken itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure Dollhouse with one episode under it&#8217;s belt it the best test case for this theory. The vast majority of views don&#8217;t even know about, even on the Internet where Whedon and Dusku&#8217;s fans primarily live. Run the numbers on a more established show like &#8220;The Office&#8221; and you&#8217;ll see a much more viable business. Certainly not ready to give the b&#8217;cast networks a run for their money, but then again *that* business model is fairly broken itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Dollhouse - Page 6 - Fires of Heaven Guild Message Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dollhouse - Page 6 - Fires of Heaven Guild Message Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How&#039;s this for topical: napkin math that shows why iTunes is irrelevant (and remember, the network is actually getting some money there, unlike torrents): Why being a &#8220;hit&#8221; on iTunes doesn&#8217;t matter yet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How&#8217;s this for topical: napkin math that shows why iTunes is irrelevant (and remember, the network is actually getting some money there, unlike torrents): Why being a &#8220;hit&#8221; on iTunes doesn&#8217;t matter yet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fin</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/why-being-a-hit-on-itunes-doesnt-matter-yet/12989#comment-51069</link>
		<dc:creator>Fin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree but didn&#039;t last season the CW use itunes as an excuse to push Gossip Girl into a second season? Although it did score a 1.05 on the index: i&#039;m guessing it didn&#039;t make much money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree but didn&#8217;t last season the CW use itunes as an excuse to push Gossip Girl into a second season? Although it did score a 1.05 on the index: i&#8217;m guessing it didn&#8217;t make much money.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. About internet advertising: you&#039;re numbers are correct and the broadcasters need to be proactive to change things a little IMHO. 

The advertisements on the internet are different and have much more potential. Web is a two way street. Viewers can submit feedback, network, etc. And some networks try to take advantage of it, make their viewing platforms more youtube-like. What&#039;s amazing to me is that they neglect all of this when it comes to advertising. 

I&#039;m a 26 year old guy. By the industry standards, I&#039;m one of the people hardest to reach by ads, and it&#039;s true. I&#039;ve spent 2 days configuring my self-made media center to automatically skip all ads. I&#039;ve watched a total of maybe 120 seconds of advertising since the Superbowl. I just looked up that the system is set to record about 50 TV shows (out of which around 30 are primetime broadcast shows). I&#039;m addicted to TV, and I watch almost no ads. I may not make much (yet), but I have no serious expenses either. No house, no wife, no children. The above description doesn&#039;t make me unique in any way, for a person of my age. There are advertisers out there who should want to reach me and, more importantly, by whom I ACTUALLY WANT TO BE reached. But I&#039;m not willing to suffer through hours of irrelevant commercials to see the ones that I&#039;d actually like to see. 

There&#039;s so much potential in interactivity in advertising that&#039;s just not used that I cannot understand. Couple of ideas, in case I&#039;m not being clear here:
(the following are written as if I was addressing, e.g. ABC, which I&#039;m obviously not, but you get the point)
- Let us tell you who we are (if we want to): where do we live?, what do we drive?, do we have dogs?, what kind of movies do we enjoy?, what kind of music?, are we single, married, divorced? age, gender? [Result: Ad showing new CD of your favorite artist. Trailer for a romantic comedy (which you love)]
- I will see 8 ads, but if I let you look at past 50 of my google searches in an anonymous manner, you&#039;ll show me only 4? Wow, OK. [Result: A link to an ebay auction selling an aquarium stand? Great! (and % of the sale goes to the network)]
- I&#039;m online. Let me use that fact. I just saw a trailer for a movie I want to see. I want a link to a page with local showtimes. I want a link to get a ticket. [% of that sale goes to the network] On the same note: ads for music must have links to amazon and itunes. [Again % of sales goes to the network] For crying out loud, if I can spend the 30 sec I have to watch the ad in a productive manner (like, say, spending money you&#039;ll get part of, make it easy for me)
- Let me rate ads. There are some I like. There are genres of ads; add &quot;show me more ads like that&quot; button. Let me share the ads I like with friends, while I discuss the show. Heard of virus advertising? If I really hate the ad, let me get rid off it forever. 
- That&#039;s a nice car. Cool, there&#039;s a link to a 3d interactive tour inside it. And you can do a test-drive online. Awesome. Plus there&#039;s link to schedule a ride in the real life, local dealers? Nice. Oh, and btw, let me use the feedback feature: next time show me more fuel-efficient cars made by American producers, in this price range. Used cars are fine, sure. 

I think it&#039;s pretty clear where I&#039;m going with this. I like TV and I have nothing against reasonable advertising. There are a few ads out there I like. I look at the sponsored links in google. What I don&#039;t like is the &#039;throw mud at them and see what sticks&#039; method of advertising which seems to be prevalent. The new generation, the one that grows up on internet, the Web 2.0 generation, won&#039;t stand for it. We want choice and we want it now. And if we have it, we can take an awesome product made by little company to new heights, with TV networks sharing (possible big part of) the profits. And we won&#039;t mind that either, since they&#039;re making this awesome show.

What&#039;s the point of researching &quot;who watches show X?&quot; if (some) viewers are willing to tell you what they want to be told about in terms of advertising?

This post got way out of hand, sorry about that. Hopefully it was somewhat of an interesting read. Hope it doesn&#039;t seem like a rant. It certainly seems a quite off topic, sorry about that too.

--Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. About internet advertising: you&#8217;re numbers are correct and the broadcasters need to be proactive to change things a little IMHO. </p>
<p>The advertisements on the internet are different and have much more potential. Web is a two way street. Viewers can submit feedback, network, etc. And some networks try to take advantage of it, make their viewing platforms more youtube-like. What&#8217;s amazing to me is that they neglect all of this when it comes to advertising. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 26 year old guy. By the industry standards, I&#8217;m one of the people hardest to reach by ads, and it&#8217;s true. I&#8217;ve spent 2 days configuring my self-made media center to automatically skip all ads. I&#8217;ve watched a total of maybe 120 seconds of advertising since the Superbowl. I just looked up that the system is set to record about 50 TV shows (out of which around 30 are primetime broadcast shows). I&#8217;m addicted to TV, and I watch almost no ads. I may not make much (yet), but I have no serious expenses either. No house, no wife, no children. The above description doesn&#8217;t make me unique in any way, for a person of my age. There are advertisers out there who should want to reach me and, more importantly, by whom I ACTUALLY WANT TO BE reached. But I&#8217;m not willing to suffer through hours of irrelevant commercials to see the ones that I&#8217;d actually like to see. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s so much potential in interactivity in advertising that&#8217;s just not used that I cannot understand. Couple of ideas, in case I&#8217;m not being clear here:<br />
(the following are written as if I was addressing, e.g. ABC, which I&#8217;m obviously not, but you get the point)<br />
- Let us tell you who we are (if we want to): where do we live?, what do we drive?, do we have dogs?, what kind of movies do we enjoy?, what kind of music?, are we single, married, divorced? age, gender? [Result: Ad showing new CD of your favorite artist. Trailer for a romantic comedy (which you love)]<br />
- I will see 8 ads, but if I let you look at past 50 of my google searches in an anonymous manner, you&#8217;ll show me only 4? Wow, OK. [Result: A link to an ebay auction selling an aquarium stand? Great! (and % of the sale goes to the network)]<br />
- I&#8217;m online. Let me use that fact. I just saw a trailer for a movie I want to see. I want a link to a page with local showtimes. I want a link to get a ticket. [% of that sale goes to the network] On the same note: ads for music must have links to amazon and itunes. [Again % of sales goes to the network] For crying out loud, if I can spend the 30 sec I have to watch the ad in a productive manner (like, say, spending money you&#8217;ll get part of, make it easy for me)<br />
- Let me rate ads. There are some I like. There are genres of ads; add &#8220;show me more ads like that&#8221; button. Let me share the ads I like with friends, while I discuss the show. Heard of virus advertising? If I really hate the ad, let me get rid off it forever.<br />
- That&#8217;s a nice car. Cool, there&#8217;s a link to a 3d interactive tour inside it. And you can do a test-drive online. Awesome. Plus there&#8217;s link to schedule a ride in the real life, local dealers? Nice. Oh, and btw, let me use the feedback feature: next time show me more fuel-efficient cars made by American producers, in this price range. Used cars are fine, sure. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear where I&#8217;m going with this. I like TV and I have nothing against reasonable advertising. There are a few ads out there I like. I look at the sponsored links in google. What I don&#8217;t like is the &#8216;throw mud at them and see what sticks&#8217; method of advertising which seems to be prevalent. The new generation, the one that grows up on internet, the Web 2.0 generation, won&#8217;t stand for it. We want choice and we want it now. And if we have it, we can take an awesome product made by little company to new heights, with TV networks sharing (possible big part of) the profits. And we won&#8217;t mind that either, since they&#8217;re making this awesome show.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of researching &#8220;who watches show X?&#8221; if (some) viewers are willing to tell you what they want to be told about in terms of advertising?</p>
<p>This post got way out of hand, sorry about that. Hopefully it was somewhat of an interesting read. Hope it doesn&#8217;t seem like a rant. It certainly seems a quite off topic, sorry about that too.</p>
<p>&#8211;Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Léo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Léo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, I liked it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, I liked it <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, I was deliberately not being precise. Although I should probably have been more precise with the allocation of national commercial spots in an hour show. 

I know that for most networks and most shows $25 CPM is fantasy.  For me, the better number is the average cost of a 30 seconds spot across the entire lineup (and I&#039;d guess FOX is doing at least $250,000 right now) but getting into that explanation wasn&#039;t something I wanted to do.  Even this limited usage of numbers probably made more reader&#039;s heads pop off than I was aiming for :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, I was deliberately not being precise. Although I should probably have been more precise with the allocation of national commercial spots in an hour show. </p>
<p>I know that for most networks and most shows $25 CPM is fantasy.  For me, the better number is the average cost of a 30 seconds spot across the entire lineup (and I&#8217;d guess FOX is doing at least $250,000 right now) but getting into that explanation wasn&#8217;t something I wanted to do.  Even this limited usage of numbers probably made more reader&#8217;s heads pop off than I was aiming for <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jeffrey t. spalding</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffrey t. spalding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two key suppositions are wrong.

A typical hour of network primetime contains about 22 30-second national commercials. The rest of the non-program time is filled mostly with promos and local time.

The $25.00 CPM is way too high. That would be a ballpark Household cpm these days. A persons 2+ CPM would be in the area of $12-15. That&#039;s just for primetime, other dayparts are generally much lower.

Additionally, unit prices and CPMs quoted by the industry for network television are &quot;gross&quot; numbers. Ad agencies take commision on these gross dollars, meaning the networks&#039; actual take is actually about 15% lower.

Your thesis that itunes viewing doesn&#039;t amount to a hill of beans still holds, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two key suppositions are wrong.</p>
<p>A typical hour of network primetime contains about 22 30-second national commercials. The rest of the non-program time is filled mostly with promos and local time.</p>
<p>The $25.00 CPM is way too high. That would be a ballpark Household cpm these days. A persons 2+ CPM would be in the area of $12-15. That&#8217;s just for primetime, other dayparts are generally much lower.</p>
<p>Additionally, unit prices and CPMs quoted by the industry for network television are &#8220;gross&#8221; numbers. Ad agencies take commision on these gross dollars, meaning the networks&#8217; actual take is actually about 15% lower.</p>
<p>Your thesis that itunes viewing doesn&#8217;t amount to a hill of beans still holds, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only asset that internet viewing has for advertisers over television is the fact you can&#039;t skip internet ads to continue watching the episode while on tv you can channel surf for about 2 and a half minutes while they are running commercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only asset that internet viewing has for advertisers over television is the fact you can&#8217;t skip internet ads to continue watching the episode while on tv you can channel surf for about 2 and a half minutes while they are running commercials.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very insightful, good to get a general sense of how unprofitable the Internet currently is for broadcast TV (although I personally get a lot of my broadcast content viewing done online)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very insightful, good to get a general sense of how unprofitable the Internet currently is for broadcast TV (although I personally get a lot of my broadcast content viewing done online)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John/Randy, thanks. Randy, things were delayed by a day due to Monday&#039;s President&#039;s Day holiday.  Top 20 lists should hopefully be up by tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon pacific time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John/Randy, thanks. Randy, things were delayed by a day due to Monday&#8217;s President&#8217;s Day holiday.  Top 20 lists should hopefully be up by tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon pacific time.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thoughtful.

When will last weeks top 20 broadcast shows be up?</description>
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<p>When will last weeks top 20 broadcast shows be up?</p>
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