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| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 | 5.2/14 | 2.9/8 | 2.6/7 | 1.9/5 | 1.3/4 | 1.2/3 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-34 | 4.2/12 | 1.9/6 | 2.4/7 | 2.0/6 | 1.6/5 | 0.9/3 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 15.43 | 11.02 | 6.52 | 4.46 | 2.85 | 4.86 |
FOX won the night with an hour of American Idol pulling a 7.9/20 (rating/share) with adults 18-49 and 22.44 million viewers. Earlier in the night, Lie to Me won the 8pm hour with a modest 2.5/8 adults 18-49 rating and 8.42 million viewers.
Lost pulled a record low for new episodes, at least in the 18-49 demographic where it entered the sub-4.0 range with a 3.7/9 and only 8.29 million viewers. This can’t be chalked up to being hit harder by Idol than last week, because Idol was down from last week too. And it can’t really be chalked up to the 8pm comedy block lead-in because that was pretty much on par with last week (even though the 18-49 numbers for both Scrubs and Better Off Ted were likely series lows for original airings).
The primary difference is that last week Criminal Minds was a repeat and this week it was new. Some will ascribe this to lower HUT/PUT levels (number of people watching TV). But I don’t think so. While there were fewer 18-49 year olds watching at 9pm, it was only down ~1.2% versus last week, but Lost was down in the demo over 10%.
Speaking of the 8pm comedy blocks, CBS’ fared better in terms of adults 18-49 and total viewers, while ABC’s block performed better with adults 18-34.
The Unusuals looked rather usual from a ratings perspective. While it outperformed last week’s Life on Mars finale (2.1), it only barely did so. The Unusuals’ 2.2 adults 18-49 rating couldn’t be what ABC was hoping for, especially with a premiere, since lately typically things only go down from the premiere. CSI: NY easily won the hour with a 3.3/9.
NBC wrapped the season (and surely, series) finale of Life around repeats of Law & Order and for the night the peacocks came in dead last, trailing even the CW in adults 18-49. The CW ran with America’s Next Top Model at 8p, and an ANTM recap show at 9pm. ANTM won the 8-9pm hour with women 18-34 (2.7/9) and ranked second with adults 18-34 (1.9/6), just 0.1 behind Lie To Me.
Previous Wednesday overnight reports are available for comparison.
Full details:
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating/Share | 18-34 Rating/Share | Viewers (Millons)2 |
| 8:00 | FOX | Lie to Me | 2.5/8 | 2.0/7 | 8.42 |
| CBS | The New Adventures of Old Christine | 2.1/7 | 1.3/5 | 7.30 | |
| ABC | Scrubs | 1.8/6 | 1.9/7 | 4.66 | |
| CW | America’s Next Top Model | 1.7/5 | 1.9/7 | 3.70 | |
| NBC | Law & Order: (R) | 1.2/3 | 0.8/3 | 5.41 | |
| 8:30 | CBS | Gary Unmarried | 2.2/7 | 1.3/4 | 7.30 |
| ABC | Better of Ted | 1.7/5 | 1.6/5 | 4.21 | |
| 9:00 | FOX | American Idol | 7.8/20 | 6.3/17 | 22.44 |
| ABC | Lost | 3.7/9 | 3.6/10 | 8.29 | |
| CBS | Criminal Minds | 3.2/8 | 2.0/5 | 13.25 | |
| NBC | Life (season finale) | 1.3/3 | 1.0/3 | 4.50 | |
| CW | America’s Next Top Model (Recap) | 0.9/2 | 1.2/3 | 2.01 | |
| 10:00 | CBS | CSI: NY | 3.3/9 | 2.3/7 | 12.52 |
| ABC | The Unusuals (season premiere) | 2.2/6 | 1.8/5 | 6.84 | |
| NBC | Law & Order (R) | 1.2/3 | 0.8/2 | 4.68 |
Shows are sorted by Adults 18-49 rating in each time slot.
Nielsen TV Ratings: ©2009 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
Definitions:
Fast Affiliate Ratings: These first national ratings, including demographics, are available at approximately 11 AM (ET) the day after telecast, and are released to subscribing customers daily. These data, from the National People Meter sample, are strictly time-period information, based on the normal broadcast network feed, and include all programming on the affiliated stations, sometimes including network programming, sometimes not. The figures may include stations that did not air the entire network feed, as well as local news breaks or cutaways for local coverage or other programming. Fast Affiliate ratings are not as useful for live programs and are likely to differ significantly from the final results, because the data reflect normal broadcast feed patterns. For example, with a World Series game, Fast Affiliate Ratings would include whatever aired from 8-11PM on affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone, following the live football game, but not game coverage that begins at 5PM PT. The same would be true of Presidential debates as well as live award shows and breaking news reports.
Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.
Share (of Audience): The percent of households (or persons) using television who are tuned to a specific program, station or network in a specific area at a specific time. (See also, Rating, which represents tuning or viewing as a percent of the entire population being measured.)
Time Shifted Viewing – Program ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.
For more information see Numbers 101.
lie to me must be cancelled its awfull
Eh, poor ABC! Every new show is a flop!
Lie to Me is in trouble, but FOX will still probably pick it up for 13 episodes in the fall. But, it’s insane that a 2.5 can win an hour on a Wednesday. Something is rotten in the state of TV.
WEll, so much for ABC’s spring premieres…They better have a lot of pilots ready or we’ll be seeing 5 hours of Dancing every week.
My mother is convinced that the networks must be anti-Semitic- why else would they be starting all their new shows on Passover?
hmm, losts drop is weird. im sure it will bounce back, last night’s episode was fantastic.
better off ted was so funny last night. i dont understand why the numbers are so low. i mean theres nothing else good on at that time. i mean i think American Idol is the stupidest show ever!
LOST was still the second highest Demo behind IDOL and number one among scripted shows.
Robert, there’s a discrepancy between the prose and the chart. Was The Unusuals 2.2 or 2.3?
Why the heck would last night’s episode of LOST be the lowest ever!?!?! It was definitely the best episode of the whole season! When will people learn that TV that makes you think and gets your brain to turn is not the devil? It makes me so mad that people refuse to watch shows that might actually make you think. God forbid that would ever happen!
Predicable CHUCK fan statement: I gotta believe that Chuck would do better on Wed vs Monday. Under current programming, it would be competing against Lie to Me (which I have tried to watch and just can’t get into it), Christine and whatever ABC tries to throw out there. Am I wrong about this? The networks must run do research in this area.
2.2 — i got new data, will fix.
Julia, I completely agree. Lie To Me is really starting to slip. These are the kind of numbers I was expecting immediately when it left Idol’s shadow. Looks like it just took a few weeks.
I also agree that Wednesday’s are weak, weak, WEAK. This is still the prime night to aggressively schedule. It’s really up for grabs right now.
The Unusuals appears DOA along the lines of Cupid. It dropped from a 2.5 to a 1.9 between half-hours.
Castle’s fate looks brighter and brighter. A 13 episode renewal seems likely unless it really dips between now and upfronts.
A few things:
- Lie to Me is definitely on the bubble for Fox since I was sent a survey regarding my viewership of the show by Fox just this morning. That only happens with Fox shows right on the bubble.
- Lost is still doing fine. A 3.7 in the 18-49 is nothing to complain about in this day and age.
- I knew The Unusuals would flop by them tying it so heavily to Lost in the ads for the show leading up to its premiere. Why? Because ABC still hasn’t figured out that an enormous amount of Lost fans don’t want to watch more TV right after Lost, they want to go online to talk about what they just saw. I think that was especially true after last night’s final scene in Lost (which I won’t spoil if someone hasn’t seen it yet). Lost is NOT the show you want to launch new shows with. They might want to stick *it* at 10pm next season.
Berman provided a 1/2 hour breakdown for The Unusuals
10:00 p.m. – Viewers: 7.44 million, A18-49: 2.5/ 7
10:30 p.m. – Viewers: 6.25 million, A18-49: 1.9/ 5
sure, losts numbers are still relatively strong, but it dropped significantly compared to last week, which makes no sense. Oh well.
good news for castle, i honestly think if it stays at a 2.4 with over 9 million viewers, its got a decent shot at getting a mid season order
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I am so happy that ABC is going down. Those losers will go downhill to failure.
The list of failed shows premiering after Lost runs long:
- Invasion
- Eli Stone
- Life on Mars
- The Unusuals
I’m sure there have been other ones as well that I’m forgetting. The post-Lost timeslot should have its own graveyard.
Tim, Castle already dropped to 2.3. If it goes back up to 2.4, I agree, it probably has a shot, but I don’t think it does at 2.3.
Lie To Me is conceptually flawed and reeks of psychobabble. It’s really hard to connect to. That said, the actors have all done a great job, I think.
I’m surprised at how strong Fringe is. Its numbers are holding up really well, and it’s even harder to conceptualize than Lie TO me. In fact, the guy who plays the FBI director dude on Fringe appeared on Fox News’ Red Eye recently and basically admitted that nobody can figure out how to describe the show.
Do you guys have the 1/2 hour breakdown for CSI:NY? Thanks.
I agree: Fox will likely pull an ABC and order 13 more episodes of Lie To Me to bolster their fall schedule – perhaps they move it to the Monday night deathmatch. But if even one of their pilots is a relative hit, Lie probably won’t get a back order.
And yes, that a 2.5 show wins its slot, even at 8pm, should have the networks quaking in their boots at how they can remain profitable even five years out from now.
And no, I don’t think the live Lost numbers are an aberration. The show is steadily losing live viewers, either because the history is getting too complicated for all but the devoted to remember or because of the more blatant sci-fi themes are causing the few casual fans to watch it only on DVR once they get a chance. I suspect that once DVR numbers are added, the show is near last year’s numbers, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is as profitable as it was last year.
Julie: Lie To Me is not in trouble and will be picked up for a full season next year.
“- I knew The Unusuals would flop by them tying it so heavily to Lost in the ads for the show leading up to its premiere. Why? Because ABC still hasn’t figured out that an enormous amount of Lost fans don’t want to watch more TV right after Lost, they want to go online to talk about what they just saw. I think that was especially true after last night’s final scene in Lost (which I won’t spoil if someone hasn’t seen it yet). Lost is NOT the show you want to launch new shows with. They might want to stick *it* at 10pm next season”
-Perhaps LOST fans should find something new to do.
When will ABC finally realize that Lost can’t compete with American Idol?
When Lost airs with no competition, it gets like a 5.0 18-49, with American Idol, it gets numbers like this. The answer is simple, switch the night it airs! Yes, I know Lost ratings “don’t matter” but it’s such a shame that as Lost is getting better, it’s getting less and less viewers
i love how everyone is criticizing ABC but like at look at NBC. ABC actually has better shows than CBS. All CBS has is stupid crime dramas. like how many of those are really needed? and their comedies arent even funny!
ABC should stick with Castle and the Unusuals, they are the freshest offerings
from that network this TV season
Outlander, Fringe’s numbers are a result of its piggybacking off of AI. Take it away from AI and House and let’s see what it does (but of course that will never happen).
Andrea, Lie to Me is my favorite new show of the year. I certainly hope you are right, but a drop like this can never be good.
Lie to Me is starting to slip but it’s winning its timeslot so i expect FOX will renew it for at least 13 episodes.
As for The Unusuals, we’ll have to wait and see but I think at this moment, only Castle looks like it has a shot of coming back. Surely ABC can’t cancel all their new shows?
I really think ABC should move Lost to 8:00, nothing that came on at 8 got above a 2.5 in the demos. But I guess my moving Lost to 8, they would have to put the comedies on at 9 and then their numbers would be even more pathetic. But still that is a pretty huge drop, is this the biggest drop all season? I guess CM really hurts Lost’s ratings. Oh well, it’s renewed for next season and we will still get to see the series finale, that is the only thing that should matter do fans.
Why did Fox switch the time-slot for A.I. and Lie to Me? I know the 9pm time-slot has more viewers but A.I. does well enough on Tues at 8pm. What was Fox expecting from Lie to Me without the A.I. lead-in? Why not move A.I. to 9pm on Tues and see how Fringe holds up on its own—-or is Fringe a show that can’t be aired at 8pm?
Seems like ABC and NBC can’t launch any new shows. At least NBC has a somewhat plausible excuse with its overall weak lineup; but ABC has several strong shows to lead-out from: DWTS, Grey’s, Lost…
Julia,
With all the flops on ABC, i think even a 2.3 wood have a shot at coming back. ABC has to bring back something! Unless they just wanna run 10 hours of DWTS a week
Why did Fox stupidly move Lie To Me to 8pm? The show was getting 10/12 million viewers at 9pm and holding steady against Lost. They constantly preempt the show for unnecessary 2 hour extensions of AI. They’re not giving it a fighing chance. What a way to waste a good show. Fox decisions makes no sense.
With Tim Roth LTM needs to be on HBO anyway so he can really let loose.
Julia,
I’m much more cynical that you. It’s a new show that has happened to stay a 2.5/8 million without piggybacking. That’s a success in today’s climate.
The Unusuals is DOA. Not surprised. It doesn’t matter if the show is good or bad, I now expect every new scripted network drama to bomb. Every single one.
Get used to news reality series like that one on FOX making a game out of firing real people–because that’s what’s happening in real life.
Sad about Lie To Me numbers (+ Castle’s), The Unusuals joins the file that shows that ABC is going to become the new NBC, as it only has its few hits and no new ones. Once LOST goes next year, it will only have DH and GA, with Private Practise and Brothers & Sisters only hits with their lead-ins: poor ABC.
Looks like the only networks for new shows are FOX or CBS. And even FOX is starting to struggle.
Uthe Unusuals flopped becuase we have too many damn cop shows!
John: ABC can’t cancel all their new shows?
Why not?
the only reason why FOX even does well is because of American Idol. Without it, FOX would be doing as horrible as NBC
KC, I’m glad FOX moved the show to 8pm. Fox needs to make new shows that can stand on their own not weak shows that get piggybacked off of Idol and House.
The problem is scheduling, as you mentioned. And, alas, LTM is again preempted next week
Geez, you guys sure are reactionary. 2.5 won the 8:00 slot tonight. What does that tell you? Answer: Nobody was watching TV! Lie to Me is a ratings winner despite Fox’s inability to show more than two or so episodes in a row (it’s very frustrating) and is almost guaranteed to be renewed, barring some precipitous dropoff.
The numbers being down across the board does not reflect poorly on the individual show. Even Idol was down 1.3 mill viewers and .3 from last week. I don’t know what people were doing last night, but it wasn’t watching TV!
“The Unusuals flopped becuase we have too many damn cop shows!”
Well, you’ll be right if Southland flops tonight.
The Unusuals flopped becuase we have too many damn cop shows!”
Corrected:
The Unusuals flopped because it wasn’t on CBS!”
I suspect LOST will either remain pretty steady or go a little further downhill until the finale, which will see a bit of a spike in the ratings.
yea i wanna know why everyone only watches CBS. like there are other networks! how stupid are people!
CBS cancelled all new shows last season apart from a 1/2 hour comedy i could see ABC just keeping Suburbia (if it doesnt drop too much)
Oh and I forgot about The Nine. Another show buried in the post-Lost timeslot.
Andrea, Fox has higher standards than the other nets. A 2.5 is middling for them.
Re “Lie to Me” – a dip is a dip, but one can hardly thumb their nose at 8.42 million viewers and a 8 share. That’s a hellova lot higher than other shows in this climate. Although, I too am a little confused why they moved it before the Idol results show, rather than after. New shows usually take Idol’s shadow for better numbers on FOX.
I happen to really like “Lie to Me” – and it took me a couple of episodes to get into it.
I expect FOX to renew it. With the numbers it’s other scripted shows are getting, they’d be stupid not to bring LtM back next fall.
I think Lie to Me is safe at this level. The numbers are not THAT bad.
I didn’t like The Unusuals. Most of the reviews I saw were positive, but I thought the show was a bore and the characters were mostly either annoying or dull.
Predictions tonight:
Harper`s Island: 11M e 3.0/8
Southland : 10.5 e 4.0/10
Castle fans should be happy with the numbers for The Unusuals. The post-Lost timeslot is becoming the graveyard that the post-Grey’s timeslot was before ABC stuck Private Practice there. I really think Lost would work better at the 10 pm hour.
Is it possible Fox will switch Idol and Lie to Me again? A 2.5 may very well be winning the 8PM block but its not a confidence building number and isn’t it a point down on what Lie to Me was doing post-Idol? To me it looks as if they’d get a better average for the night (and likely a bigger win) with Idol back at 8 and Lie to Me back at 9.
Of course that’s all about the Idol lead-in though because when a show performs much better against Lost and Criminal Minds than it does against the failing CBS and ABC comedy blocks and an NBC repeat something is wrong. Maybe the switch was just made too early? Regardless though that has to be food for thought for Fox.
Also… bye, bye Life. I’ll miss you even if 99% of the network audience won’t.
And I know its childish and everything but Lost dropping below a 4.0 makes me smile. But ABC has much bigger worries than Lost dropping right now…
Chief is right! The Unusuals join the graveyard. I watched the last half hour of the Unusuals and found it terrible! I wouldn’t blame it on too many cop shows, it was trying to throw out so many subplots they could develop in future shows that it didn’t make you want to find out more about any of them.
“Lost” was so good last night. All the dots are starting to connect as we finally learn more and more about the mystery of the island. Why viewers are fleeing this season is beyond me. I don’t care about the ratings at this point, because next year is the last and those of us remaining will finally get to see the end of the long strange trip that has been “Lost”. It will be well worth the wait I’m sure.
However, thinking about how low “Lost” has fallan has made me think about all the other shows that are achieving series-low ratings in recent months (e.g. CSI, Heroes, Grey’s, DH, and just about everything else not called AI or DWTS). The super sharp declines in viewers has me scratching my head.
Has anybody here wondered about the accruacy of Neilson’s numbers? I’ve read that Nielson is in the process of increasing sample sizes, so perhaps the fact that we’re seeing lower and lower numbers correlates to the increase in sample sizes. However, with the economy in a recession and unemployment so high, I would expect that the viewership figures increase somewhat. Yet they aren’t. Just makes me wonder how accurate Neilson really is.
Alex, I also think the switch was perhaps premature. And I also agree the night’s averages would be higher if they were switched back. Lie To Me would increase more going an hour later (behind Idol) than what Idol would drop by going an hour earlier.
I also wonder why they switched Lie To Me/Idol, but didn’t switch Idol/Fringe.
What is up with that?
I wonder if it is perhaps just to weaken Lost. Or perhaps that was at least a factor. Sacrifice a few tenths in Lie To Me’s demo, in order to inflict potentially severe damage on Lost.
10.5 million and a 4.0 for Southland?
It’s on NBC. They’ll be lucky to get 7.5 and a 3.0.
Harper’s Island has me curious. Could be a hit.
PREDICTIONS:
SouthLAnd-9 mil….4.0demo
Harpers Island- 7mil….2.6 demo
It would be interesting to know how much Lost was a factor in switching Lie to Me and Idol. I’m not however sure Fox really needed to weaken Lost at this point but that’s just me.
Can I also say that I would be amazed if Southland does a 4.0 tonight.
I’d go with a mid-3 for Southland.
Wow, a lot of stupid comments… like : Those shows sucks!! kill it!!! Those show owns!!!!
Or : What lost down? That was the best episode ever of the world!!!!!!
Well first of all, I don’t give a damn about wether you like or hate this show…
Then after, because you liked this episode, does not mean it’s gonna be good rating wise… And the people who didn’t watch it, they can’t know this was “THE BEST EPISODE EVER”
God, why do 50% of the comment are : This show sucks, I like this show bla bla bla. This is so empty talk…
Well, whatever… Shouldn’t pay attention to them…
Well, Lie to me is still going down a little more… don’t know why though… Competition is absent. Fox will probably just put it back at 9, behind AI.
The unusuals ratings are really bad. How many new show succeded this year? 2? Fringe, the mentalist?
My prediction for southland? well, 7-8 millions maybe. Probably less.
Harper’s island. CBS show… 12 millions
The Wednesday comedies on CBS are looking uneasy but I think we’ll have to see how Rules of Engagement and Old Christine combo does in a few weeks but I think CBS would do better to put a drama in the 8pm slot.
Alex, it is fascinating to consider, though isn’t it?
Most of the time, fans and critics think about shows and schedules in terms of “what schedule is best in order to get the most out of our shows?”
But I think that some nets, especially when they have monster hits like Idol, Grey’s, House, etc., additionally ask the question “where can we do the most damage with this thing?”
Look at the effect Idol has had on Tuesdays and Wednesdays over the past several years. The opposing nets always begin quaking in their boots when looking at their springtime Tue/Wed schedules because of the impending Idol onslaught. This basically renders them immobile until Fall, at which point they feel “forced” to schedule stuff that can be moved out of Idol’s path later, or that will do “ok” up against the behemoth.
When Grey’s went to Thursdays a few seasons ago, it not only helped it’s own position by instantly being ABC’s hero on thursdays, but by detrimentally affecting both CBS and NBC – the two previous kings of the night.
I’m not saying that destroying other lineups is the primary concern when deciding what shows go where. Obviously you have to look out for the health of your show first, or you compromise it’s health from the start. Also, you arn’t gonna be able to hurt anything by throwing Knight Rider against it. However, with these large shows you can seriously damage other shows, or even whole nights (if a certain show — Lost perhaps — anchors it). I’m guessing networks do factor this in to an extent.
I created a home for the SOUTHLAND and PARKS & RECREATION predictions here:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/09/make-your-southland-and-parks-recreation-nielsen-ratings-predictions-here/
Gee, where did the demos go at 10? South Park maybe?
I didn’t know The Unusuals was on last night until just before it started because my new TV Guide ran an article about it and it indicated the show started next week. I don’t watch ABC. I checked it out because of Amber Tamblyn. Lost ran a minute or two over.
i’ve said since the beginning, Lie to Me is going to follow the bones pattern. They’re going to keep it around, have it on after house next seasons until the spring and then have it in front of AI again. Remember bones were getting the exact same just a few seasons ago.
Im not surprised by ABC’s numbers for the Unusuals… They need to get something more normal! Like a CSI type show!! Stop trying to be different with shows like Cupid and Castle!! THEY DONT WORK ANYMORE!!
Tom says:
“I suspect that once DVR numbers are added, the show is near last year’s numbers, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is as profitable as it was last year”
Actually, I think there is a chance that the DVR numbers don’t even get above 10 mil. Because I have no life, I’m trying to predicted Lost DVR numbers based on the % increase from the first few episodes. My prediction for the last DVR #, was only off by 1%
Wow, Unusuals scored lower 18-34 than Scrubs.
Tom, I suspect that once DVR numbers are added, the show is near last year’s numbers
You’d only be kind of right. If you compare the Live+7 numbers this year to Live+SD numbers last year, they are about the same, but it’s an apples-and-oranges comparison.
Lie to Me will be OK. Last night’s episode was odd in that it was only really one big story, rather than the two consecutive ones they usually do. Lie to Me has a lot going for it: a great lead actor in Tim Roth, a good supporting cast and a kicking theme tune from Ryan Star. I’m confident it’ll get renewed for at least a second season of 13 episodes, especially considering that Fox have tentatively commissioned Bones for next year, notwithstanding yesterday’s announcement that a certain legendary sci-fi actor, who debuts in the season 1 finale, will be around for season 2.
As for CBS, with their announcement a few weeks ago that they’ve already renewed Two and a Half Men for 3 years and The Big Bang Theory for 2 years, I guess they’ve put all their eggs and money in the same, but very safe, basket. Two and a Half Men is guaranteed ratings and The Big Bang Theory isn’t too far behind.
Season 1 finale of Fringe… oops!!!
After using Hurley and Miles to make fun of how freaking oblique the plot is this season, LOST deserved a smack-down – too bad it was on one of the best episodes of the season. While we’re speculating though, how about this: the freaking commercials drive ya nuts! I don’t know if it is actually a high saturation, or if the pacing of LOST is just THAT effective, but lot’s of “Hey! Who pulled the carpet out from underneath me” moments with this show. I know a lot of fans have stopped watching live just so they can fast forward through the commercials.
I too am curious of Harper’s Island….Hmmm – I think it will do well tonight – if the acting is good – then for 13 weeks into summer – CBS will have a hit…
I think more networks need to do this —come up with “1 season” mysteries or adventure stories like a mini “24″ or “LOST”… that way both the viewer and the network know what their in for and their commitments to the show(s).
Bummer for Lie to Me that its ratings aren’t holding the benchmark of, roughly, 10MM total viewers and something closer to 3.0 in the 18-49 demo. I guess the silver lining to this cloud is that the measly 2.5 demo still won the hour. Seriously – where is everybody at 8 p.m.? Daylight savings time factor? Sports factor? Something big on cable? I’m very curious indeed.
DocArtz, “watching live”? What is this “watching live” that you speak of?
Seriously though, the data indicates almost 2/3rds of Lost’s viewers *are* actually watching live. That’s still a very high percentage of DVR viewing though. Based on the most recent data, as a percentage of viewers who watched on DVR, Lost was fifth, trailing only The Office, Gossip Girl, Terminator: TSCC and Dollhouse.
Tjdchill says:
April 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Predicable CHUCK fan statement: I gotta believe that Chuck would do better on Wed vs Monday.
Well, let’s check, shall we?
8:00 PM
FOX Lie to Me 2.5/8 2.0/7 8.42
CBS The New Adventures of Old Christine 2.1/7 1.3/5 7.30
ABC Scrubs 1.8/6 1.9/7 4.66
CW America’s Next Top Model 1.7/5 1.9/7 3.70
NBC Chuck 2.0/6 1.6/5 6,030
8:30
CBS Gary Unmarried 2.2/7 1.3/4 7.30
ABC Better of Ted 1.7/5 1.6/5 4.21
NBC Chuck 2.1/5 1.6/5 5,994
The key here is that CBS’ New Adventures of Old Christine is an older-skewing show, predominantly late-Baby Boomer/early-GenX Seinfeld fans. Gary Unmarried seems to skew even older than that. To be fair, Chuck’s numbers didn’t have to compete against new episodes of Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother this week. However, I seriously doubt it could be worse than
NBC Law & Order: (R) 1.2/3 0.8/3 5.41, which is actually an IMPROVMENT over The Chopping Block. Actually, Chuck gets close to Lie to Me, at least a helluva lot closer than it gets to House. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if House goes back to Wednesdays while 24 is not on.
There’s only certain nights that can be won, but Wednesdays is one of them when Idol isn’t on. There are other nights where NBC can take 2nd. But on Monday nights, NBC has no shot whatsoever while the other networks stand pat with their programming that night. Granted, if you kept the Chuck/Heroes combo together, Heroes would get KILLED by Lost. Maybe NBC has a new show it can pair with Heroes (Day One is subbing in for Heroes, so they won’t be paired), I don’t know.
all the shows suck ! in the last 3-4 years there hasnt been a new hot show… for me only the big bang theory i cool from the “new” shows…
Last night’s episode of Lost was one of the most captivating and enlightening episodes of the season, which further confuses me as to how Lost continues to lose so much viewers. The only thing I can say that I haven’t already said about Lost, is that television viewers will surely regret not having Lost on television anymore, after it ends next year.
Alex says:
April 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
It would be interesting to know how much Lost was a factor in switching Lie to Me and Idol. I’m not however sure Fox really needed to weaken Lost at this point but that’s just me.
I’d say it had everything to do with the Idol/Lie switch. However, I don’t think Fox was trying to weaken Lost so much as to protect Lie to Me. Fox does have an advantage, though, in that ABC has to retool that entire night, given that Scrubs is gone, Better off Ted won’t survive, and they can’t program 10PM to save their lives. I’m wondering if ABC wouldn’t consider pushing lost back to 10PM next season and try to retool the earlier part of the evening instead. Lost’s only competition would be with CSI: NY, which has a much older-skewing crowd. (Leno would take viewers, if any, from CSI and not Lost.)
I’m not surprised the Unusuals bombed. The ads were stupid. A few weeks ago they were constantly running that ad where a guy dressed in a hotdog suit asks for a phone call and the female officer responds “Who are you gonna call? The Hamburgler?” That joke was so lame and stupid that I knew right then and there that the show wasn’t worth giving a second of my time. The joke doesn’t even make sense? The Hamburgler steals hamburgers, not hotdogs, so why the hell would a hotdog want to call The Hamburgler? Besides, South Park is on at the same time and I’m sick of staying up till midnight to watch the repeat of South Park.
Good news for Castle.
people dont watch lost because it is a stupd show that is taking too long to tell us anything and i only watch tv..i watch one show and dont tape or tivo….and american idol is heads above lost in terms of a fulfilling hour of fun tv….lost has wasted so much time and really pisses me off that they expect people to hang around like hungry dogs at an empty bowl in the hopes of getting some interesting scraps…i have better things to do with my life than be strung along…i started watching this season after missing a couple of seasons but it is just about unwatchable….this show should have been a 2 week miniseries..i am so glad it is ending soon…
if you dont watch it, what do you care? go watch your american idol, goober.
Patrick, you could say that but you’d be at least partially wrong. LOST has gone head-to-head with American Idol several times already this season, last night was Lost’s worst performance (and it wasn’t Idol’s best). This is not to say that LOST doesn’t lose more viewers airing against Idol than Lie To Me, the history shows that is true. But it doesn’t explain why last night was worse than last week. It seems more likely to me that Passover (and at least versus last week,) a new Criminal Minds explain the *additional* losses.
What i said last week? Lost is not a good show to launch new shows after…
The unusuals after dancing on tuesdays, instead Cupid, could make similar rating to castle.
the unusuals only lost 2 millions viewers… with a better lead-in it coud improve a little more. ( i don’t watch the show… i only spak with numbers analisis, and not show quality, etc.)
Robert Seidman says:
April 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Patrick, you could say that but you’d be at least partially wrong. LOST has gone head-to-head with American Idol several times already this season, last night was Lost’s worst performance (and it wasn’t Idol’s best). This is not to say that LOST doesn’t lose more viewers airing against Idol than Lie To Me, the history shows that is true. But it doesn’t explain why last night was worse than last week. It seems more likely to me that Passover (and at least versus last week,) a new Criminal Minds explain the *additional* losses.
No, you’re right. Actually, I wasn’t really talking about last night vs. last week, since I didn’t really know last week’s numbers until you just told me. I was just thinking that Lie to Me competes better in the 8PM hour than the 9PM hour. I was looking at it from Fox’s angle, since I doubt ABC plans to move Lost up to 8PM. (although I have seen stranger things happen)
alan: “… i started watching this season after missing a couple of seasons but it is just about unwatchable …”
There’s your problem right there, alan, you just can’t get away doing that with LOST. It’s no wonder you found it “unwatchable” if you missed several seasons. How can you expect to properly follow a story when you’ve missed a huge chunk of it? And there’s really no excuse for missing any of it, as you can stream all the episodes for free on ABC.com, or of course rent the DVDs (or Blu-rays soon) to catch up.
Why do people really care about Lost ratings?
It’s already going to end next year and for the fans that’s all that should matter. Ratings will probably pickup near the finale next year because I’m sure a lot of prior fans will want to see how it comes to an end. Last nights episode was great by the way.
Lie to Me is probably safe unless if just starts to freefall. It could, but I think FOX is going to bring it back and pair it with House in the fall. It’s ratings could boost then and it might come back for a full second season.
Remember Fox gave TSCC a full second season when ratings were pretty poor. I could see them pulling something like that with Lie to Me.
I’m not sure if I’m convinced by the idea that Fox were trying to protect Lie to Me from Lost when they switched it to 8. I’d be more inclined to believe that if Lie To Me were sinking at 9 but from what I remember whilst Lost had a clear margin it was still competitive with Criminal Minds and holding onto a decent sized audience. Of course if Fox did move Lie to Me to protect it from Lost its backfired.
Whatever the reason for the move was though I think the time might have come to switch them back because for whatever reason Lie to Me is sinking at 8, which is a shame because its really growing on me. On a related note I like the idea of a House/Lie To Me combo next year – I think that’s a much better fit than House/Fringe or House/24. Of course I’m not convinced we’re going to see House/Lie To Me next year for various reasons but I like it none the less. Although as it stands what Fox does with House next year (in terms of what it leads into) is one of the more interesting things about their schedule. I’m also wondering if they’ll keep it Monday’s at 8 where its now beating Dancing with the Stars head-to-head.
As far as the Lost drop goes who knows what drops that. I suspect Criminal Minds being an original episode probably played a small part in it plus the fact that everything was seemingly down last night. It’ll be interesting to see if it’ll rebound next week or not or whether it stays below a 4. It’s probably worth pointing out that Lost has lost more than a point from its demo vs. where it was at the start of March. That’s a worrying drop for ABC if the numbers don’t go back up.
On the plus side Lost dropping means that for the retionistas of this world The Unusuals didn’t do as badly as it could have.
@Patrick Murphy:
Yes, yet again, NBC could move Chuck/Heroes to Wednesday…. if they wanted to torpedo the ratings on the expensive SVU by having to move that in return to Monday. And there is no guarantee that Heroes would even benefit going against Lost + sometimes AI, now that all the 18-34 are abandoning Heroes.
So your master plan is to ruin the ratings on one show NBC produces (SVU), probably drag down the ratings on another show NBC produces (Heroes), all to raise the chances of some other show NBC doesn’t produce (Chuck). You do realize that the networks actually prefer to be profitable, right?
@Andrea: “Lie To Me is not in trouble and will be picked up for a full season next year”
Why? Why would Fox commit to that now? Take a look at Fox’s current spring M-R schedule: what (aside from possibly LTM) won’t be back next spring? Why would Fox commit to a whole season of a 2.5 rating show when they can order 13 episodes for Fall, see if any of their other new Fall shows are a hit (they will be scheduling at least 2 new hour longs, possibly 3 or more if they don’t go with a ‘Til Death/Earl-other comedy hour to start out with) and go from there?
Simply put, Fox’s 2010 M-R Spring lineup is already set except for one slot: LTM’s. Why commit to the weakest link now? (Yes, House could be moved from Monday to some other night, like Wednesday next year. But it will still air sometime between M-R in the spring.)
Life on Mars premiered with 11.3 million viewers. So I wouldn’t call 6.84 million for a premier episode of The Unusuals an impovement. After the curiosity factor wears off, it’s only downhill from there. I sure wasn’t planning to watch it. After the cancellation of LOM, I’ve gone back to ignoring ABC as “usual”. If I watch any new cop show, it will be Southland which I’ve already seen the premiere of and it should be a hit except for the fact that no one watches NBC anymore either.
And too bad about Life. Another great show bites the dust, leaving more free time for me. The finale was especially good and they did seem to wrap everything up in case it has to be the end.
“It seems more likely to me that Passover (and at least versus last week,) a new Criminal Minds explain the *additional* losses.”
Pesach strikes me as a very odd candidate to advance over, say, the first week of the new baseball season.
Wow at (as you said) ANTM being 0.1 away from being on top of 18-34. And Lie to Me is failing; yay. I’m surprised Lost fell below a 4 too, but it’s still kicking ass and it has a set end date so it doesn’t really matter.
I think RJ might be right; I know that right after I see a show I’m obsessed about, I want to see the responses online and only stick around if the next show is as exciting as that…which it isn’t most of the time.
“ABC is going to become the new NBC, as it only has its few hits and no new ones.”
Well, aside from its tentpole dramas, it still has Dancing with the Stars and Bachelor(/ette), and perhaps the latter will continue to try to keep up ratings by recycling past losers.
“Geez, you guys sure are reactionary. 2.5 won the 8:00 slot tonight. What does that tell you? Answer: Nobody was watching TV!”
Well, adding up the 8 o clock shares = about 30. Meaning everyone was watching cable, not nothing.
Hmm, people seem pretty psyched about possibilities for the two new shows tonight. No mid-season show has made a hit, right? Well, unless you count the now-2.5 LTM. Oh, reading downthread, I forgot that the Poehler show is premiering too. Oh. Exciting.
Although I don’t think any steadily 4.0+ hits have been made in the last four seasons (I’m not counting shows that only get these ratings when directly after, say, Idol.).
fine, blame Bud Selig. I blame him for many, many things
Tom says:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
@Patrick Murphy:
Yes, yet again, NBC could move Chuck/Heroes to Wednesday…. if they wanted to torpedo the ratings on the expensive SVU by having to move that in return to Monday. And there is no guarantee that Heroes would even benefit going against Lost + sometimes AI, now that all the 18-34 are abandoning Heroes.
Actually, I don’t necessarily advocate keeping Chuck and Heroes together. I would say move Chuck on its own and pairing with with Legally Mad might be the better move, as I would expect Chuck’s and Legally Mad’s audiences to be in a similar age group (though not necessarily similar in gender). Chuck and Heroes have slightly different age brackets in their audiences.
The big question is whether SVU can play an hour earlier. Judging by Tuesday night’s ratings, it wouldn’t matter if 9PM had SVU or the 2nd hour of Biggest Loser: NBC still took fourth place last night.
“The big question is whether SVU can play an hour earlier. Judging by Tuesday night’s ratings, it wouldn’t matter if 9PM had SVU or the 2nd hour of Biggest Loser: NBC still took fourth place last night.”
I correct myself. 4th in the overalls, but 2nd in the demos. That is a difference, although SVU’s numbers compared favorably in the demos to BL. But again, SVU is a 10PM show that has to be put into a 9PM slot somehow, just like Southland if it’s successful.
I know the Office episode at 8 pm is a new episode, but is the second office episode on 9 pm also a new episode?
there’s like a zillion online TV guides and program guides on the Internet. Not to mention schedule information directly available from NBC.com, but NooOoOoOooo…that’s too hard. They are both new episodes.
Patrick I’m not sure I buy this SVU/Southland can’t air at 10 theory that’s thrown around a lot. Admittedly I haven’t seen the Southland pilot yet nor am I a regular viewer of SVU but I’m not convinced that in an age where House is on at 8 and CSI delivers fairly gruesome corpses at 9 (repeatedly and from different angles and speeds) I’m not sure how well the argument pans out. Are they going to have to alter some aspects of the shows? Maybe but I don’t think it’s the huge challenge many make it out to be.
Lost’s numbers bother me, because it’s such an awesome show, but not too much.
Everyone I know (other than me) either DVR’s Lost or watches full seasons in one go on DVD.
Many people I know are ardent Lost fans, but refuse to watch only 1 episode at once, and watch the whole season on DVD.
So Lost’s numbers are very skewed I think compared to its actual influence.
Alex I totally agree. NBC will put these wherever they work on the schedule.
I don’t understand why people keep insisting Fringe only survives because of its lead-in.
Since when are people going to sit staring at the tube for another hour of a show they don’t understand just because they watched the lead-in?
Fringe numbers are good because the show is interesting and entertaining, the plots are unusual, and the characters are likable – even the frosty DHS dude is interesting since he looks like an alien himself!
Anna Torv is completely likable, more so than any other cop on TV – in fact, the only oddity is how she could ever actually be an FBI agent acting that nice to everybody. John Noble is hilarious, Joshua Jackson is likable – and the villains are excellent as well.
But the real plus are the plots. How many shows have plots like a kid found sealed underground for 80 years? Or a missile comes up from the ground years ago, then returns today – then disappears again after assassins run around trying to grab it and some weird bald dude knows all about it? Or a giant cold virus crawls out a guys mouth after killing him? Or a guy morphs into a monster on an passenger jet? You see this on CSI, Law and Order, even Life? Maybe Chuck?
Some people would watch this stuff simply to say, “Damn, never saw anything like that before!” Especially if the idiot was just watching American Idol…
That explains Fringe numbers to me.
Oh, dear Life. Life is the best show on tv. I didn’t even realize it was the season (series finale). It’s like NBC has given up on everything. Why do people not watch the best show on tv just because it’s on NBC? Save Life! Renew Life! Watch Life episodes on nbc.com. Smart & quirky. There’s only a few such shows – House, Bones, & Life. People want to watch reality drivel these days. I don’t get it.
That was the best Lost of this season, and one of the best of any season – how weird that it was so low.
I agree with Richard Steven Hack. He’s absolutely right. Besides, would people be complaining if Fox gave Dollhouse the same timeslot following Idol? Probably not.
I like Lie to Me and I hope it doesn’t go away. And why should it? so it dropped – most 8p shows dropped in the spring. Its numbers right now are similar to Bones’ numbers in previous years. Fox kept Bones, why won’t it keep Lie to Me?
As for the Unusuals – ouch. I thought it’s a rather intriguing show. Drama with a touch of comedy and hilarity, since the characters are so out there. Not to mention two (!!) actors from “Oz”. I’ll come back next week for sure (especially since L&O isn’t on).
Ouch, Lost. Ouch.
“The Unusuals flopped becuase we have too many damn cop shows!”
That didn’t bother the 16+ million people who watch The mentalist.
theFutoncritic.com reports that Lie to Me will get aired in repeats along with House on Mondays this summer starting May 25.
Bones will air in repeats on Thursdays leading into So You Think You can Dance. Futon Critic suggests (and I agree) that these are positive indicators of renewal for next season for both shows.
It’s more like Ouch, viewers, ouch! IMHO the viewers only hurt themselves if the missed Lost last night. Micheal Emerson gave another Emmy winning performance, in his latest Ben centric episode. He was absolutely wonderful, as was Terry O’Quinn and the rest of the cast. Lots of back story to fill in some important answers and some unexpected turns as well.
Richard (to a degree) I think Fringe has some Idol inflation just as any show that follows Idol gets some degree of benefit from it. I do however agree with the general idea that its flawed to think people will watch Fringe just because its on after Idol (or House) – they have to be getting some kind of entertainment out of it.
The question for Fringe is do the people that discovered it and stick with it because its on after Idol like it and enjoy it enough to stick with it if it moves somewhere else? That was the same question Lie To Me faced and apparently the answer there was not really.
Of course the other question a lot of people seem to love asking is, would Fringe have found an audience without a House/Idol lead-in? And that’s a bit of a backwards question because you can apply that to countless shows that were built on the back of a strong lead-in – House springs to mind as an obvious example. Its a big hit now but would it have done that without Idol?
On another, whilst the numbers aren’t good I thought The Unusuals was ok.
The problem with the pilot is that they tried to do too much in too short a period of time. Too many characters and too many plots. It doesn’t help that none of the characters really feel natural at this point. Just ‘quirky’ ideas packaged together.
NBC is in dead last? What a shame for the former #1 network…
Good points, Alex. However, I’d be inclined to think Fringe would do reasonably well after ANY lead-in for the reasons I cited – it’s just too unusual not to attract attention, and the characters are so likable people won’t mind watching something that unusual (unless they’re really hide-bound as to their viewing preferences.)
So if Fringe was moved, I suspect some viewers would drop off, but then some other viewers of whatever lead-in the new slot had would start watching. Whether that would result in significant bleeding of viewers I don’t know, but it would seem quite a few shows would be subject to that same phenomena. Only a really, really compelling show is likely to drag ALL its current viewers to some other night and then pick up new ones as well.
I don’t know if anyone has ever statistically studied the effects of the night of the week on viewing habits. Do some people only watch on certain nights REGARDLESS of what’s on? Because of work or whatever? To what degree are people just resistant to shows moving and thus disrupting their settled-on viewing schedule? There’s a lot of questions one could ask and I suspect the answers aren’t around.
I hate AI and DWTS, god can’t people see these shows are dumb. I can’t take the loss of viewers for good shows because people don’t understand the concept of watching good shows.
I have a theory:
Damon Lindelof is a Nielsen viewer. It makes sense! He’s always going on about how he watches Criminal Minds instead of Lost at in their podcasts, and he’s smart enough to know the difference between rerun and original eps. It explains EVERYTHING!!!!!!111
[sarcasm]
Richard I would imagine that there are some people who only watch television on select nights because of their schedule whether it be work or social commitments. However as internet, on demand and DVR viewing increases that’s obviously going to become less of a problem for fans at least if not the networks. What the percentage of people who can only watch on x night(s) I don’t know but I would imagine someone, somewhere has conducted some kind of study on it.
As far as Fringe goes I agree with you, I think it would hold up relatively well without Idol assuming it stays a 9. I don’t know if I’d be as confident if it were for some reason to move to 8. I’m not sure if at this stage at least Fringe is a show that pulls large numbers of people to the network off the bat.
And Andrew remember, quality is subjective.
So sorry about Life’s ratings….Damian Lewis is great on the show. Not really sure why NBC was not successful with it; it seems like it has a lot going for it.
“Life” – that was a great send off. Real class act all the way through.
go and give LOST a 10 out of 10 in the last epoised
in tv.com !!
Yasser, why? That rating means nothing.
lol, its already rated 9.6 there… i dont see the reason you should ask people to rate something. nobody benefits from it, especially not the show.
yes, last nights episode was incredibly great, critics loved it, fans loved it, but unfortunately the quality of the show has very little to do with the nielsen ratings.
I personally don’t understand why it would be the case that a significant portion of viewship would be linked to what comes on before or after any given show. I hope that the majority of TV viewers aren’t brain dead zombies that can’t deal with the complexities of changing the channel. Granted, I’m not much of a TV watcher but I’ve never missed an episode of Fringe, Life, Terminator, or Life on Mars. As a fan of those shows I know when they are scheduled to air (or were, in the case of LOM) and watch them. I have no idea what shows precede or follow any of those shows I watch. As far as I’m concerned it wouldn’t make any difference whatsoever …
Larry, I watch King of the Hill even though I don’t like it because it comes on after the Simpsons. I also watch How I Met Your Mother even though I hate it because it comes on after The Big Bang Theory.
Can I get any love for “Life” on here. Its so underrated; the cast is terrific, and yes I’m talking about the addition of Donal Logue as well, he is not a great actor but he works well with Damian Lewis, who by the way is the best actor on T. V. in my opinion. Life is the best show on and its a travesty that NBC would cancel them. The writing is spot on, occasionally the acting leaves something to be desired, but the character Charlie Crews is the best character on T.V. That’s attributed to Damian Lewis
Dan, I’ve loved on Life often! I’m a big fan of the show. But though it might be a shame that the ratings are so low, it’d be impossible for a reasonable person to fault NBC if it pulls the plug. The ratings were horrible. I wish they weren’t, but, they were. I really enjoyed the season finale though.
Writing shows vby committee, with what passes for the old standards and practices ( now don’t offend groups x, y and z ) and expecting them to have the mainstream appeal of CSI when it started or the mentalist has got to be something like medieval alchemy. Or do they dance around beheaded chickens? I agree with the post which called out a sour grapes post. Nobody wants new cop shows? The old style sitcom is dead? Reality shows are dead – all these bland platitudes are true until they aren’t. The fact is, writing for the networks has got to be one of the most thankless tasksw imaginable, and cable with its niche audiences with almost prefabricated tastes is makinhg it well-nigh impossible. As for Holly, re ABC’s six hours of dancing shows – how about six hours of Barabara Walters?
Lost’s numbers this time around are about what Heroes was getting last fall.
I will always hold dearest to my heart my love for my little Timmy Roth. He is my very favorite and I will always love him so, and I no longer care what anyone else thinks because it must be said. I will always love you, my Timmy. Your dearest, Angus.
Ok, I feel as though American Idol will never die. Even when their ratings fluctuate, they always bounce back. I love it though, so it keeps me happy. If anyone else out there is a huge AI fan, you MUST check out the iPhone app they have available. A lite version just came out this week, so if you want to try it out you can do just that for free: phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=310915760
Lost sucks. That episode stunk. Dead is dead.
I think that there is just an overall drop in American IQ. Seriously…if you honestly consider a show like “Lie to Me,” which I do enjoy, to complex for mainstream tv, then you need to turn off the TV and open a book! I will agree that Fox’s Bones is a bit more technical, but they essentially translate everything Bones says by having Booth ask questions. (I’m a pre-med student, so I understand much of what Bones is saying. My husband is an engineer, so he gets a bit lost, but Booth’s questions are enough for him to catch up.) The same thin can be said for Fox’s House.
Regardless, I think it says a lot that shows like AI get high marks, but shows that actually require the viewer to engage their brains don’t see positive ratings.
On a less analytical note…I don’t like Southland. I want to like it, the premise is good, but it comes off as a little overly scripted to me. It has a few good minutes followed by a few crappy ones. (I’m not to fond of a lot of the character’s personal stories…they just detract from the rest of the plot.)
Hopefully they up the ante and it gets better.
… Fox’s lie to me is NOT horrible !
its awesome .
(8:00 FOX Lie to Me 2.5/8 2.0/7 8.42)
& clearly, many other people agree with me,
if you look at the numbers up there ^