We’ve got a professionally written script, a professionally written score, loads of talented and experienced actors, whatever the latest doo-hickey bing-bong HD cameras folks are shootin’ with now-a-days… I think it’s called a RED or something ;^) etc etc. YouTube here we DON’T come.

Be sure to snag a DVD when it comes out. You may like it!

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They could easily bring back a popular character (Wash & Book) even though they were killed off.

Just take a look at how they resurrected Paul McGillon on Stargate Atlantis, in fact that’s how I found Firefly, I was reading about how he was killed off and replaced by Jewel Staite and there was a mention of Firefly and the rest is history…

Please bring back this show or a direct to DVD version… The following is there and people are ready to buy the DVD’s. I just purchased the series and movie on Blue Ray!

I look at some of the crap on TV and wonder why someone isn’t striving to bring a show of this caliber back to the screen.

Since the original post never said anything about certainty – and I’m fairly sure none of my posts did, since I’m not someone who believes in certainty – except for the concept that made for TV movies then released on DVDs would sell well – which I think is more than likely given the existing DVD sales of Firefly – I don’t really see any place where massive skepticism is warranted.

Nick’s entire post was hypothetical – IF you pitched a Firefly TV movie project to execs at Fox and IF it was done right, it would likely pull a 3.0 and IF sold on DVD would likely sell well.

Nothing terribly certain about any of that, except for those who wanted to make it so, so they could denounce the whole thing and thus attempt to appear better informed than Nick. It was the nay-sayers who came up with a whole bunch of “certainties”, claiming the Firefly DVD sales were unproven, the actors couldn’t be gotten together, nobody but a handful of Whedon fans liked it and no one else ever would, yada, yada.

Bottom line: I have to conclude that a bunch of people simply wanted to step on Nick C’s toes. I’ve had my disagreements with Nick before, but when he’s right – or at least reasonably speculating – he’s right. I don’t carry over my disagreements with people from discussion to discussion, unless I’ve determined that they’re always wrong because they’re in the business of being wrong (like Bill Kristol, for instance.)

AO, that comment posted on June 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 am shows that you can’t read correctly, you’re a hypocrite and that you aren’t too bright either. All I said was I curious about how many Firefly dvds have been sold and that there was no proof available(publicly). I never stated that it didn’t sell well or the lack of available numbers was proof that it didn’t.

You talk about how “DVD sales numbers ARE. NOT. RELEASED.” and that the absence of unavailable DVD numbers are not proof of something. You previously suggested “How about we turn the question around and ask for “proof” that it doesn’t sell well?” For someone to prove that it doesn’t sell well they would would need to see DVD sales numbers and we all know that “DVD sales numbers ARE. NOT. RELEASED.” So you can’t have it both ways. You can just read what you wrote in that comment and that is almost the perfect argument against yourself/your suggestion.

So if the DVD sales numbers aren’t available, how could the fans constantly state the Firefly DVDs sell so well? Is it safe for people to assume that they know Firefly DVD sales are good because:

1. The show is so awsome they just know.
2. Every Firefly fan is in the business or works at FOX.
3. Hey it’s Joss. How could it not be selling zillons of copies.
4. Every Firefly fan spends a ridiculous amount of money on a subscription to Soundscan just to follow Firefly DVD sales.
5. Dude you know he created Buffy right?
6. They believe every little scrap of information posted online as long as it’s something positive about Firefly.
7. Dude you know he created Angel too right?
8. They believe everyone that says that they are in the business or knows someone in the business as long as it’s something positive about Firefly.

So which one is it? Probably a little bit of 6&8.

Another thing about the prove that it doesn’t sell well BS. That’s what some loser fanboy comes up with when they have no real point to argue with. Everyone that makes a statement as fact needs to be able to back it up if they want to be taken seriously. You mean to tell me that because you happen to be a fanboy of the show it some how justifies the opposite? So in your little fantasy world does this apply to every fanboy and every show or just you and this show? It’s really sad how delusional some people are.

I have no problem with Firefly or it’s fans. I do have a problem with delusional fanboys in general. They make regular fans look bad.

Someone should create a petition to revive it!

Bit harsh criticising a spoiler. The film is 4 years old!

My beef is more general- words like “definitely” and “without a doubt” and “evidence” and “data” and “proof” are bandided about when “according to estimates” and “possibly” and “worth considering” would be more accurate.

I have seen solid “evidence” that a Jericho feature film is in the works. As a Jericho nut, nothing would make me happier. But I’ll believe the “evidence” when I see the movie trailer. Same situation here. Sure, it’s possible that these movies may one day exist, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

They killed Wash and Wash wasn’t even funny in the movie. He was hillarious in the show. Didn’t Book die as well?

How can they make something even nearly as good as this brilliant original series? I have faith that Joss can do it but HOW?

2 votes here for giving it a shot anyway.

Mr. Whedon, please take your time with writing the dialogue.

My sources WERE cited in my posts. USA Today and The Numbers. Learn to read. Your complaint about The Numbers was noted and dismissed as being sour grapes that you didn’t have any better figures to discredit them with, so you came up with their disclaimer that it was an estimate only – which everybody with a brain – except you, apparently – already knows.

Viper: Who says the show has to deal with the time period after the Serenity movie. You could do TV movies and an entire series set BEFORE the Serenity movie. There’s nothing in the canon that says Serenity happens five minutes after the last aired episode of Firefly. So that whole point is totally moot.

Scheduling conflicts? EVERY MOVIE has scheduling conflicts. EVERY MOVIE has multiple people whose schedules have to coincide. What part of that don’t you get? You think the Ocean’s movies were easy to schedule?

This is more ruminant evacuation. Some haters don’t like Firefly, so they have to make up reasons why it’s “impossible” to do a Firefly TV movie. It’s ridiculous.

Nobody said there weren’t a lot of ifs involved, JUST LIKE VERY OTHER PROJECT. What part of that don’t you people get? It’s amazing to me that ANY movie or TV show gets made. This nonsense about stupid problems that might occur – and DO occur on EVERY project – is just that: nonsense. It’s completely irrelevant to the issue of whether Firefly could conceivably do better than it did the first time around.

The fact is: nobody knows! But the evidence from the DVD sales is that it could have done better had it stayed around instead of being canceled. And that evidence is perfectly adequate to suggest that a rebooted version could do well today, especially if the ground were laid for a return by one or more properly promoted and properly scheduled TV movies.

However, as Nick points out, a TV movie had better be properly promoted and properly scheduled, or it might not do any better than any other TV movie outside of the Whedon fans. How hard is that to comprehend?

viper, would I put my money into that project? Sure. FOX promises after the NFC Championship game (immediately after) I’d be all over it. I’d dump up to $8M into it without blinking. Figure FOX will pay $4.5M to $6M, and make the rest up by selling 2nd syndication rights to SCI-FI (another $1M or so) and the final returns on DVD. It’s a safe investment.

You can always tell when someone is down for the count and totally defeated, they resort to your tactics. Try to be a little more original next time huh?

If is a mighty big word. If it is scheduled after an NFL game. If the advertisers will go for it. If the cast, crew, writers etc can be lined up. If a network comes up with the cash to pay for all this. If the president doesn’t decide to announce yet another industry takeover and preempts the premere. If, if, if.

Will the resulting movie match the expectations of the cadre of hard corp fans? You know the ones that get irate when a buckle is unfastened in one scene then seconds later is buckled in the next. And would enough new viewers take the time and effort to get to know the story and characters? No one can answer that, it’s anyone’s guess. But based on the last outing the answer was a resounding no. See my earlier comment about expecting different results from the same actions.

Even if there are as you say tons of dvd sets flying off the shelves(and I have no reason to doubt your word) that doesn’t mean there is enough general interest(I refer to nonWhedonite fanatics) to justify such an enormous outlay. Fox isn’t really hurting for scripted shows with ratings draw, but NBC is in deep trouble. Why would either of them bet on a horse that has already broken two legs and just hope it doesn’t break another. Especially one that you yourself admit will need special scheduling help to be even remotely successful? The series failed,(broken leg 1) the movie failed(broken leg 2). Dvd sales may make up some of the production cost shortfall but it still looks like a sucker bet to me. And just between us, if a movie or show needs special kid glove handling to survive, does it really deserve to?

It’s been fun speculating about it however. Take care.

And Nick C, I think I’m seeing how some of this debate may be a result of misinterpretations and unclear statements. You state regarding interest in reviving Firefly: “under the right circumstances, definitely.” The funny thing about your statement is that it can be interpreted several ways: the common use of the word “definitely” is to mean certain, or indisputable. “Definitely” can have no qualifiers in that sense, so “under the right circumstances” totally negates the word “definitely. If you had written, “under the right cirmstances, it’s possible,” or even “under the right circumstances, yes,” then I’d be more likely to take your writing seriously. However, “definite” can also mean a distinct set of limits. So what you could have meant was that there are certain, definite circumstances under which FOX would be interested in a Firefly TV Movie. Taking the latter meaning under consideration, then I see your point. In theory, with the stars aligned just right, some people might give Firefly some serious thought.