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	<title>Comments on: Thursday Ratings: ABC Fawcett Tribute Wins Duel of Specials, But Fox Wins Night</title>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one in the world that doesn&#039;t get SYTYCD?   It&#039;s sooo bad and sooo lame.  Judges cackling, Judges with big ugly chicklet teeth, &quot;dance for your life&quot;.  I don&#039;t get it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one in the world that doesn&#8217;t get SYTYCD?   It&#8217;s sooo bad and sooo lame.  Judges cackling, Judges with big ugly chicklet teeth, &#8220;dance for your life&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t get it</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything for Royal Pains yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything for Royal Pains yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris the TV Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris the TV Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay, this is what this site does everyday. You expect them to change based on what you find to be &quot;crass&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay, this is what this site does everyday. You expect them to change based on what you find to be &#8220;crass&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s rather crass to compare which obituary tribute got the most viewers, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s rather crass to compare which obituary tribute got the most viewers, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: NMW</title>
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		<dc:creator>NMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about ready to cancel my cable and buy books. TV is not what it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about ready to cancel my cable and buy books. TV is not what it used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: A Sensible America Endures &#171; The Rhetorican</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Sensible America Endures &#171; The Rhetorican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Uncategorized.  Tags: Entertainment, News, The Arts, TV trackback  Duel of the TV Requiems. Whew!  I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t watched network tv in years, even my local news channels, I get my news from Fox and local stuff from the web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t watched network tv in years, even my local news channels, I get my news from Fox and local stuff from the web</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can probably get rid of that question mark after mentalist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can probably get rid of that question mark after mentalist</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samantha Who should have never been cancelled, and Burn Notice, always was great, but DVR most all last night to watch Micheal Jackson tribute, still hard to believe and still brings a tear to my eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha Who should have never been cancelled, and Burn Notice, always was great, but DVR most all last night to watch Micheal Jackson tribute, still hard to believe and still brings a tear to my eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that more people watched a repeat of CSI than watch the specials on Michael Jackson on the 9pm hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that more people watched a repeat of CSI than watch the specials on Michael Jackson on the 9pm hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian, my guess is that MTV doesn&#039;t release a press release with those numbers, but I&#039;ll look for them on Tuesday&#039;s weekly report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, my guess is that MTV doesn&#8217;t release a press release with those numbers, but I&#8217;ll look for them on Tuesday&#8217;s weekly report.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we get ratings for the speials on MTV is going to do and how they are doing with the Michael Jackson videos all day? Same with VH1 and BET. The best tribute you can give the King of Pop, one of the greatest of all time is play his music non-stop on TV and Radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get ratings for the speials on MTV is going to do and how they are doing with the Michael Jackson videos all day? Same with VH1 and BET. The best tribute you can give the King of Pop, one of the greatest of all time is play his music non-stop on TV and Radio.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTO, D&#039;oh! My subconscious controls all! Tastefully modified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTO, D&#8217;oh! My subconscious controls all! Tastefully modified.</p>
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		<title>By: Shem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CW did better than last time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CW did better than last time.</p>
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		<title>By: BTO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BTO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dead even?&quot; Really, you elected to use that phrase?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dead even?&#8221; Really, you elected to use that phrase?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange to watch the specials about M.J.  Maybe it&#039;s just me but it feels like he&#039;s been gone for a long time, the entertainer anyway.  The last decade or so he&#039;s really been nothing more than a pop culture oddity.  When he was in his prime, before all the scandals, his talent was unmatched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange to watch the specials about M.J.  Maybe it&#8217;s just me but it feels like he&#8217;s been gone for a long time, the entertainer anyway.  The last decade or so he&#8217;s really been nothing more than a pop culture oddity.  When he was in his prime, before all the scandals, his talent was unmatched.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam

That&#039;s because it was non-stop Jackson on the cable news, and Farrah was pushed aside there.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s because it was non-stop Jackson on the cable news, and Farrah was pushed aside there.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a little odd that all the prime time Farrah coverage got more viewers than Jackson RIP both</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a little odd that all the prime time Farrah coverage got more viewers than Jackson RIP both</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, The Mentalist was on at 8pm.  I watched a bit of it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, The Mentalist was on at 8pm.  I watched a bit of it. <img src='http://tvbythenumbers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ihate2fly</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihate2fly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird TV night.  I ended up DVRing USA&#039;s BN and RP.  The cable news ratings are probably up and the non-music cable ratings are probably down.  I see MTV, VH1 Classic, BET, and Fuse are all-MJ-videos-all-the-time today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird TV night.  I ended up DVRing USA&#8217;s BN and RP.  The cable news ratings are probably up and the non-music cable ratings are probably down.  I see MTV, VH1 Classic, BET, and Fuse are all-MJ-videos-all-the-time today.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS special was called &quot;The Life and Death of Michael Jackson&quot;. It was all about him, with a very brief brief segment on Farrah.

thefutoncritic confirms mentalist aired at 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS special was called &#8220;The Life and Death of Michael Jackson&#8221;. It was all about him, with a very brief brief segment on Farrah.</p>
<p>thefutoncritic confirms mentalist aired at 8</p>
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		<title>By: R.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX will be re-airing American Idol Top 13 ...The tribute performances of the  Michael Jackson songs they did early in the season...it re-airs this Monday Nite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX will be re-airing American Idol Top 13 &#8230;The tribute performances of the  Michael Jackson songs they did early in the season&#8230;it re-airs this Monday Nite</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samantha Who? and In the Motherhood were very funny as usual!  I&#039;m sad they got canceled.  At least I still have Better Off Ted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha Who? and In the Motherhood were very funny as usual!  I&#8217;m sad they got canceled.  At least I still have Better Off Ted.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just noticed.  CBS actually ran The Mentalist in the first hour at 8.  I&#039;m Central time so it was 7 for us.  Weird TV night to be sure. 

On and off I watched a lot of Keith Olberman on MSNBC.  He was on live from  7 Eastern replacing Chris Mathews show, his own show, and Rachel Maddow&#039;s too, and his and Rachel&#039;s repeats, until 11 Eastern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just noticed.  CBS actually ran The Mentalist in the first hour at 8.  I&#8217;m Central time so it was 7 for us.  Weird TV night to be sure. </p>
<p>On and off I watched a lot of Keith Olberman on MSNBC.  He was on live from  7 Eastern replacing Chris Mathews show, his own show, and Rachel Maddow&#8217;s too, and his and Rachel&#8217;s repeats, until 11 Eastern.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
		<link>http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/06/26/thursday-ratings-abc-wins-duel-of-jackson-fawcett-specials-but-fox-wins-night/21487#comment-100640</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS had a tribute to Farrah Fawcett in the middle of their Michael Jackson tribute.

Nigel gave a nice acknowledgment to Ed McMahon (for Star Search finds and for The Tonight Show), Farrah, and a larger one to Michael Jackson (for his contribution to dance and music) on So You Think You Can Dance.  You could tell that they were all a bit subdued on that show since it was live.  Cat, who usually does not look like she is reading her cue cards, was very obviously doing so.  And the elimination was a bit rushed.  They mentioned that FOX apparently is rerunning some special Jackson show on Monday night but I am not sure of the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS had a tribute to Farrah Fawcett in the middle of their Michael Jackson tribute.</p>
<p>Nigel gave a nice acknowledgment to Ed McMahon (for Star Search finds and for The Tonight Show), Farrah, and a larger one to Michael Jackson (for his contribution to dance and music) on So You Think You Can Dance.  You could tell that they were all a bit subdued on that show since it was live.  Cat, who usually does not look like she is reading her cue cards, was very obviously doing so.  And the elimination was a bit rushed.  They mentioned that FOX apparently is rerunning some special Jackson show on Monday night but I am not sure of the details.</p>
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