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Celebrating Two Years of TV by the Numbers!

Posted on 04 September 2009 by Robert Seidman

Happy 2nd Birthday!

Two years of “Please don’t cancel [show name] it’s the only show I watch on [network name], if you cancel [show name], I’ll never watch [network name] again.

Two years of “The average person isn’t smart enough to handle the subtle brilliance of [lowly-rated show name].”

Two years of  will it be renewed or will it be canceled?

Two years of all that, and so much more.

It has been a blast.

We don’t have an official anniversary really.  We had the site up and running by the end of August 2007, and we had a more formal launch in the middle of September, but  Bill and I have been at it for over two years now, and today is just as good of a day as any to celebrate it.

An idea that came up over lunch has turned into  being a  lot of fun for both of us.  For the first year really, things didn’t look so great from the perspective of traffic.   I would tell Bill I was obsessed with getting to a million page views and he’d look at me like I was nuts.  In our best 30 day period last season we had over 3 million page views.  Bill still looks at me like I’m nuts, but at least now it’s for different reasons.

I’ve had the tremendous good fortune to take an endeavor like this on with someone like Bill Gorman.  We both can be stubborn as mules, and both have the occasional short fuse.  Especially during some of our web hosting crises  last season (all cleared up now!) there were times we wanted to strangle each other.  But we never stay mad at each other or wind up taking anything personally.  And we always seem to be able to come to agreement or compromise.

Some shout outs of thanks:

  • First and foremost: our readers and commenters.  Thank you!
  • Julia, who helps out with fixing apostrophe abuse sometimes, and will do an occasional post herself
  • “Holly” who is a long-time reader and participator in the comments.  She’s very helpful at answering questions and usually is faster than Bill and I at it!
  • Pretty much anyone and everyone involved with making the TV shows that we track, whether they perform well in the ratings or not.
  • All of the networks, especially the people at the various networks who have been very helpful to us
  • The TV journalist/blogging community, there are way too many to name, but many of them are in our blogroll on the lower right hand side of our site.
  • To Matt Drudge for the “TV Ratings” link on Drudge Report
  • Rackspace Cloud web hosting: they don’t sponsor us and I’m not being paid to say this, and I hope this doesn’t put the jinx on, but switching to them was a great move. They helped us solve some problems when we first switched and the service was great.   We’ve had a few high traffic events since then and the site has run flawlessly.
  • And of course Nielsen.  Despite some issues, they have been helpful.  Plus there’s no doubt, the impetus that led to the lunchtime discussion that birthed this site was Nielsen data.
  • Update: need to add Bravo — through a relationship we had with Bravo/Television Without Pity for the game it used to run on the Web (TV Bigshot) we found a lot of our readers (including Julia mentioned above!)

I’m sure I missed many shout outs, please don’t take it personally, and thank you too for two great years!

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72 Responses to “Celebrating Two Years of TV by the Numbers!”

  1. Kathy B. says:

    Congratulations! Thanks for doing such a great job. I’m addicted to this web site.

  2. Tdot says:

    So say we all!

  3. Junior G. says:

    Congratulations! Last year I used to not even look up ratings, and now the first website I stop by in the morning is TVbytheNumbers. It’s such a great and informative site and even though people watch TV now less than ever before, I still love television and this website gives me the good news and the bad news everyday. Thank you so much.

  4. elliott says:

    i second what junior said

  5. Thank you two for having such a great website! I’ve loved seeing TV ratings for years, and when I discovered this site in late-2007, I fell in love with it! Now, I don’t check ANYWHERE else for TV ratings info! Just here! :)

  6. thanks everyone (who is up very early!). And Junior G., people are watching MORE TV than ever before, just not on the broadcast networks in prime time…

  7. Jalen People says:

    Congrats!!! u run a really good website here!

  8. Dario says:

    Congrats!
    Well, it’s 2PM here,Robert :)

  9. aboleyn24 says:

    Congratulations! I found this site while trying to explain ratings and demo’s effect on decisions to cancel a show and that it wasn’t all about the networks being evil. It rapidly became an addiction and now its in my daily favorites list and I visit everyday (sometimes more than once).

  10. Andy says:

    You forgot that giant Drudge for that great big link he gives you.

    BTW:Happy B-day. I enjoy the info you guys do so well!!!

  11. maddhatter24d says:

    Congrats guys…you do a great job in supporting a crazy niche group like us!

  12. shelly says:

    I haven’t been around here as long as some others, but happy birthday! May the site run forever! May you get many million more viewers! And may Joss’s Biggest Fan continue to entertain you (and us all) for many more years to come! And all that other good stuff. ;)

  13. Andy, I did not forget Drudge, he is in the shout outs!

    Shelly: JBF has been absent for a couple of weeks now. I hope just resting up for the big season premiere event in a few weeks!

  14. Mega64 says:

    Congrats! Definitely one of my favorite sites, as you and Bill bring commentary and your own analysis on shows and networks in addition to the numbers.

    Keep up the good work!

  15. Drew says:

    Congrats, guys. I love the cable ratings (True Blood True Blood), the renew/cancel index (ooh, that show’s a goner), and the DVD sales (TB Wow).

    Here’s to a long long run for this site. Perhaps we’ll even outlast American Idol.

  16. Eric (Ohio) says:

    Best Website Ever.
    ’nuff said.

  17. gbd says:

    I visit every day. Great Web Site! Thanks for all your work.

  18. Billy Vick says:

    I, too, visit the site at least once a day. It is the best resource fo the SOAP OPERA ratings and break downs anywhere. You material is presented in a format that is so easy to understand, and like the many others, I appreciate the time and devotion you put into making this information available. Are there ways (like some sites allow PAYPAL) that we can send you some small thank you’s – especially in celebration of the second anniversary? I believe the second anniversary is cash contributions if I remember correctly!

  19. GEORGE 11 says:

    congatulations!!!!!!!!!!your site is great!!!!!!
    i just hope that you will bring back the rating tables!!!i really miss them!!!!!!! :( :( :(

  20. Thanks again, everyone.

    Billy, the Soap Opera Ratings are actually from the Soap Opera Network forums, we link back to them, but they do are the ones doing the nice formatting!

    As for Paypal, we really appreciate the offer, thank you, but don’t want to go with a “tip jar” approach, at least for now. But again, it is appreciated!

    George: We miss them too.

  21. Andy says:

    Sorry Robert….I admit I cant read. You are 100% correct! Again: Congrats.

  22. Jared says:

    Last november I ran a Google search looking for how the latest season of Heroes was doing in the ratings. The 1st, or maybe 2nd, thing that popped up was this sight. And while there wasn’t much good news in Heroes’ ratings, I found an awesome new website to frequent. Way to go guys! Tvbythenumbers is one of the top sights I go to when I don’t want to do classwork

  23. Number Cruncher says:

    Congratulations!

  24. Fin says:

    Congrats, its a great website! Found this website when looking for Heroes season three ratings! Now I come everyday! Well done and happy bday tvbythenumbers

  25. zzzoe says:

    I also visit every day. This is the best ratings site out there – great articles and analysis, and the commenters are smart and insightful. Thanks!

  26. NYC says:

    Congratulations on your anniversary and thank you for a great site!

  27. Julia says:

    I’d like to thank TVBigShot for pointing me in the direction of TVBTN.

    Also, Nick C. who has apparently completely disappeared this summer.

    And maybe it’s time to start merchandising TVBTN. :D I’m thinking a t-shirt that says something like:

    Your favorite show’s ratings suck
    != Your favorite show sucks
    != You suck

  28. Holly says:

    Happy Anniversary!

  29. Eric says:

    Congrats on two great years … here’s to 20 more

  30. JPNS says:

    As I found out this summer, you have a strong group of loyal supporters in Canada, who would be absolutely overjoyed if you would tackle viewership ‘up there’ one day.
    As one of my dear friends put it, ” there is nothing as professional and encompassing available here that handles viewership so professionally.” High praise and well deserved ! Congratulations and Happy Birthday.

  31. Grace W. says:

    Robert and Bill,
    I’m thrilled that you guys still think this is fun after two years. I think it’s fun reading the site, but I’m not sure how much fun I would have compiling all this data! Thank you for giving us non-insiders an intelligent, clear, unbiased view of how the television ratings industry really works. Here’s hoping you all have many more great years, and all your favorite shows get renewed next spring! :-)

  32. Anonymous says:

    Woo-hoo…congrats TBTN!

    I started visiting this place right when it started up (the first post I read was something about TiVo subs for a research project)….. I was hooked! Granted, back then it was pretty empty around here with many line/bar/bubble graphs and white…lots of white! But you guys have grown up so fast…*sniff*

  33. Dennis says:

    Congratulations! This is BY FAR the best ratings site on the net.

  34. victor hugo says:

    Congratulations!

  35. forg says:

    Happy Anniversary! I’m just a newbie here, came around July. I really love this site! I discovered your site through wikipedia actually because there are many articles there that uses this site as reference.

    Great job guys. Keep it up! This is a ratings geek heaven :)

  36. Kalena says:

    Happy Anniversay! This has been one of my go-to sites for the last year. I love looking up last night’s ratings but now I love your news and discussions too. Keep up the great work!

  37. LAD says:

    Congratulations! This is a great site.

  38. Bruce says:

    Congratulations!

    I found this site about a year ago in an attempt to keep up with the ratings of my favorite programs. Since then, a lot of those shows have gone by the wayside (Terminator: TSSC, Eli Stone, Pushing Daisies, Life On Mars, Life, Eleventh Hour, etc.) but TVBTN has become someplace I visit on a daily basis even when I’m not looking for any specific data.

    Thanks for all your time and effort.

    (and thanks for glossing over my ignorance of correct comma usage)

  39. Sharon says:

    Happy Birthday guys.

  40. evah says:

    I don’t post everyday….but I’m out here everyday.

    “HAPPY BIRTHDAY”

  41. Grady says:

    Congratulations on two years! If I could get a couple hundred visitors a day, I’d be more than happy! But your testimony is great to hear- I have faith that one day, if I keep providing useful content, my blog will be a success as well! You all are absolutely amazing. This is probably my favorite site on the net.

  42. mjblaser says:

    happy birthday, i have been on this site for a year, great job

  43. shelly says:

    Julia, the weird thing is that Nick C. isn’t even updating his own blog lately. I wonder what’s going on?

  44. Julia says:

    Shelly, I know he’s been really busy this summer. Hopefully his schedule will clear up soon.

  45. 5506 says:

    I Agree with Kathy B. at the Very Top of the Comments List :mrgreen:

  46. 5506 says:

    If it wasn’t for this Site then i wouldn’t know anything about the ratings, finding out about with show would or wouldn’t come next season and all that.

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY and Congratulations.

    Peace… ;)

  47. the128boy says:

    Congrats to making it two years! This is my absolute favorite tv website, and after a long and busy summer I am excited to think of fall tv returning… and of course all the discussion it will spark :)

  48. Congrats! This is great news and we are happy to have you hosted with us. Wishing you many more years of success.

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  49. AZTop says:

    Congratulations. I found you guys from Bravo when they ran that program a network contest two years ago. Give them a small shout out.

    This is my late morning read almost every day. Thanks for keeping me ratings obsessed.

    Please give Survivor a bit more respect even if it is almost as acient as I am. ;)

  50. Chuck Collins says:

    Congratulations!!! Here’s to many more years to come with my favorite website about Chuck. :)

  51. Aztop — Bravo now shouted out above! I respect Survivor so much I watched the Gabon edition and loved it!

    Chuck still seems so far off into the future. Because it is :(

  52. John says:

    Congrats! I look forward to seeing how the site will evolve as we move forward.

  53. Shem says:

    Congrats- hope you guys bring back the network weekly top 20

  54. AZTop says:

    Robert:

    Glad you caught the Survivor bug. I’m wondering we are now 9 full years and 18 editions into Survivor. How does Surivior’s ratings compare to other one hour shows, scripted or otherwise (well I guess don’t include 60 minutes) at the 9 year mark?

    Shows I can think of off hand are Law & Order, Law & Order SVU (?), ER, going back Murder She Wrote, going way way back, Gunsmoke! (Just kidding on these two)

    American Idol is I think about the same age, but not as many editions.

  55. AzTop, I’d love it if we had some sort of easy way to do those comparisons. Unfortunately we lack the data to do it any justice.

  56. RJ says:

    CONGRATS ON TWO YEARS!
    This is one of my favorite sites to go to.

  57. Nightstar says:

    Well, Robert, you could still talk about Chuck… for example, Superman (Brandon Routh) is going to fly in to teach Chuck about some spy stuff… and apparently Lana Lang (Kristen Kreuk) shows up as well.

    Might make it worth the wait :lol:

    Either way, congrats on 2 years! May you have 23 more to reach your own silver age!

  58. Ben says:

    Nice work! May there be many more years to come.

  59. Scott Jensen says:

    Robert and Bill,

    Just curious. Do you guys make a full-time living off of this blog yet? If so, how? I don’t see any ads. And if you don’t make a full-time living off of this, what do you do to pay for the bills and are you hoping to eventually make a living off of this? If so, how?

  60. Scott Jensen says:

    And CONGRATS on turning TWO! :-)

  61. Liban A says:

    Happy Birthday!!

  62. forg says:

    Scott Jensen: They have ads, I’m seeing Fantasy Football ads as I type this

  63. forg says:

    By the way this statement is so spot on haha

    Two years of “Please don’t cancel [show name] it’s the only show I watch on [network name], if you cancel [show name], I’ll never watch [network name] again.

  64. DB says:

    Congratulations on your 2nd birthday. It is a great site. Hope you have many more anniversaries.

  65. AniMatsuri says:

    Congradulations for lasting this long and the growing trafic too!

    Got here via a link from Drudge last year. Between this and boxofficemojo(also linked at Drudge), I’ve got 2/3rds(haven’t found one for radio yet) of my media numbers obsessions covered.

    If this site is still here for the 5th aniversary, we should all treat Robert and Bill to lunch somewhere(Hell’s Kitchen maybe?).

  66. Diane says:

    Congratulations! You guys are great and show the patience of Job even when the discussions in the comments get a little heated or off-track! Here’s hoping for many more years of a truly fabulous site.

  67. Roddenberry says:

    Great site. Congratulations

  68. Jay says:

    “The average person isn’t smart enough to handle the subtle brilliance of VERONICA MARS!”

    I wish I had been around for those discussions. Congrats on two years!

  69. K.H. says:

    I don’t post often, but there isn’t too many sites on the internet better than this one. I found this site earlier this year wanting to know how Heroes was doing. Now, there isn’t a day where I don’t visit at least one. Not only do you report ratings, but you give your readers insight about the television business that goes beyond the numbers. I personally thank you and keep up the good work.

  70. anonymous says:

    Congrats! Especially to my beloved Robert! :D

  71. Julia says:

    Jay, VM had already been canceled by the time TVBTN launched. So we all missed those discussions. ;)

  72. Josh.L says:

    Congrats numbers dudes!


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