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TV Ratings: House down, still tops; Trauma’s explosions lead to ratings implosion

Posted on 29 September 2009 by Robert Seidman

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Scoreboard FOX CBS ABC NBC Uni CW
Adults 18-49: Rating/Share 4.3/11 4.1/11 3.2/8 2.2/6 1.7/4 1.2/3
Adults 18-34: Rating/Share 4.0/11 2.9/8 2.0/6 1.9/5 1.8/5 1.7/5
Total Viewers (million) 11.08 11.73 14.30 6.13 4.22 2.47

Fox won the night with adults 18-49, and ABC won with viewers.  CBS was in second place both with viewers and adults 18-49.

The premiere of Trauma was not so good for NBC with only a 2.3/6 rating/share with adults 18-49.  House was tops for the night with a 5.7/15, followed by The Big Bang Theory and its 5.1/12.

Trauma did worse than Heroes (2.5/6) with adults 18-49, and it was Heroes’ lowest-ever 18-49 rating for an original episode.

Retentionistas will have a field day with the premiere of Lie to Me, which only pulled a 2.9/7 adults 18-49 rating/share out of House.

The Big Bang Theory is now overshadowing Two and a Half Men in 18-49 (5.1 vs. 4.7) but Men held a narrow edge with total viewers (13.64 vs. 13.02).  TBBT also had a healthy lead over Men with adults 18-34 (3.6 vs. 2.9)  Here are the CBS blurbs about TBBT:

At 9:30PM, THE BIG BANG THEORY was first in adults 25-54 (6.0/13), adults 18-49 (5.1/12), adults 18-34 (3.6/12) and second in both households (7.8/12) and viewers (13.02m).  THE BIG BANG THEORY was up +3% in adults 25-54 (from 5.8/12), +9% in adults 18-49 (from 4.7/11), +20% in adults 18-34 (from 3.0/08) and added +60,000 viewers (from 12.96m) from last week’s premiere.

This was THE BIG BANG THEORY’s best delivery in viewers, adults 25-54, adults 18-49 and adults 18-34.  This is the second straight broadcast THE BIG BANG THEORY posted series highs in viewers, adults 25-54 and adults 18-49.  THE BIG BANG THEORY built on its TWO AND A HALF MEN lead-in by +4% in adults 25-54, +9% in adults 18-49 and +24% in adults 18-34.

The good news for Castle fans is it again beat The Jay Leno Show (2.3 vs. 1.8), but some Dancing With the Stars overrun is probably included, which would be stripped out in the finals.  As it stands, Castle had a 2.5/6 with adults 18-49 from 10-10:30p, and a 2.1/6 from 10:30-11p.

Since it’s been a crazy day for us, I’m posting in “Holly’s” comments from the comment section:

CBS did well. AOP dropped slightly from last week, but no more than would be expected from a premiere (maybe less, since it only lost 0.1 in the demo). TBBT hit another high and actually beats Men in the demo. Looks like CBS made a good choice in moving that to 9:30. Miami didn’t lose much from last week either, so all in all, a very good Monday for them.

House took the expected fall from last week, but still did really well. It’s still slightly above what it was doing last fall. I don’t think FOX is breaking out the champagne for Lie To Me’s performance, but they can’t be upset about it either. If it can stay close to a 3.0, it will be just fine regardless of what House gets.

ABC might not be as happy. Dancing is down quite a bit from last year. It’s still OK, but not nearly as strong as it had been. Castle stayed steady from last week, so no complaints there.

NBC…well…ouch. Heroes can’t pull a 3 and is probably more of a liability than an asset. I suppose Trauma premiered about as well as could be expected given the state of NBC, but it was still bad.

Full details:

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating/Share Viewers (Millons)
8:00 FOX House 5.7/15 14.44
CBS How I Met Your Mother 3.6/10 8.73
ABC Dancing With the Stars 3.5/9 16.52
NBC Heroes 2.5/6 5.82
CW One Tree Hill 1.2/3 2.61
8:30 CBS Accidentally on Purpose 3.1/8 8.07
9:00 CBS Two and a Half Men 4.7/11 13.64
ABC Dancing With the Stars 3.8/9 16.82
FOX Lie to Me (season premiere) 2.9/7 7.72
NBC Trauma (season premiere) 2.3/6 6.93
CW Gossip Girl 1.2/3 2.33
9:30 CBS The Big Bang Theory 5.1/12 13.02
10:00 CBS CSI: Miami 4.1/11 13.46
ABC Castle 2.3/6 9.56
NBC The Jay Leno Show 1.8/5 5.64

You can see TV ratings from other recent Overnight ratings reports here.

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All numbers are Live+SD.

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  • Anonymous

    Trauma was really, really, REALLY bad…..it’s certainly going to plummet next week, that’s for sure.

  • Anonymous

    Trauma was really, really, REALLY bad…..it’s certainly going to plummet next week, that’s for sure.

  • tal

    Argh! I’m desperately waiting to see how Castle did this week, such a fun episode!

  • Julia

    For those who are not retentionistas, Lie to Me was a nice improvement on the timeslot from last year. Prison Break was at 2.0 in the overnights on 9/29/09.

  • tal

    Argh! I’m desperately waiting to see how Castle did this week, such a fun episode!

  • http://remotecontrolsyou.com Julia

    For those who are not retentionistas, Lie to Me was a nice improvement on the timeslot from last year. Prison Break was at 2.0 in the overnights on 9/29/09.

  • Charles

    I’m not usually happy to see a show to bad, but yay for Trauma!! I was forced to watch the damn stupid promo every time I went to the theater.

  • Someone

    The wait is killing me, i will have to get a beer earlier then usual to calm down lol :P

  • Charles

    I’m not usually happy to see a show to bad, but yay for Trauma!! I was forced to watch the damn stupid promo every time I went to the theater.

  • Someone

    The wait is killing me, i will have to get a beer earlier then usual to calm down lol :P

  • Anonymous

    ^I think Lie to Me did fairly well for it’s premiere (up from what it got airing Wednesdays at 8), but you do have to acknowledge that House’s lead-in support for Lie To Me was a lot better than what Prison Break got out of TSCC. I don’t think retention percentages mean a whole lot, but a strong lead-in does help a show’s numbers.

  • Andrea

    NBC is the new Friday night death slot. Heh.

    “Retentionistas will have a field day with the premiere of Lie to Me, which only pulled a 2.9/7 adults 18-49 rating/share out of House.”– Retentionistas would be right. LTM should be pulling better numbers for a premiere with House as a lead-out.

  • Holly

    ^I think Lie to Me did fairly well for it’s premiere (up from what it got airing Wednesdays at 8), but you do have to acknowledge that House’s lead-in support for Lie To Me was a lot better than what Prison Break got out of TSCC. I don’t think retention percentages mean a whole lot, but a strong lead-in does help a show’s numbers.

  • Andrea

    NBC is the new Friday night death slot. Heh.

    “Retentionistas will have a field day with the premiere of Lie to Me, which only pulled a 2.9/7 adults 18-49 rating/share out of House.”– Retentionistas would be right. LTM should be pulling better numbers for a premiere with House as a lead-out.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Robert Seidman

    Full data table now posted above. Castle had huge drops on the half hour (2.5->2.1 and 10.399 million > 8.73 million

  • MichaelJA

    Castle was great fun this week! I loved it! Trama sucked. I wonder why NBC even allowed the dhow to go to be produced.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Full data table now posted above. Castle had huge drops on the half hour (2.5->2.1 and 10.399 million > 8.73 million

  • MichaelJA

    Castle was great fun this week! I loved it! Trama sucked. I wonder why NBC even allowed the dhow to go to be produced.

  • Anonymous

    Castle had huge drops on the half hour (2.5->2.1 and 10.399 million > 8.73 million

    Probably due to a Dancing overrun.

  • Holly

    Castle had huge drops on the half hour (2.5->2.1 and 10.399 million > 8.73 million

    Probably due to a Dancing overrun.

  • Evil

    Actually, it was the same last week with Castle, too. 2.5 first half hour, 2.1 second half hour..

  • Evil

    Actually, it was the same last week with Castle, too. 2.5 first half hour, 2.1 second half hour..

  • Ethan

    Trauma was definitely one of the worst written shows I’ve ever seen. Mercy, while still mediocre, was miles better. I hope that one survives over Trauma… a lot.

  • Pas

    That can’t be good for Trauma to premiere lower than Heroes (whose numbers aren’t as horrible as your “early” article made me think).

  • Ethan

    Trauma was definitely one of the worst written shows I’ve ever seen. Mercy, while still mediocre, was miles better. I hope that one survives over Trauma… a lot.

  • Pas

    That can’t be good for Trauma to premiere lower than Heroes (whose numbers aren’t as horrible as your “early” article made me think).

  • j

    If you don’t want to look at lead-ins/retention, well Lie to Me & Fringe are both well down from their avg seasonal #’s from last year.

    And if you do, both shows lose signif audience from their current lead-ins.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Robert Seidman

    PAS, a 2.5 is plenty horrible for Heroes, but at least a good % of its viewers are 18-49. 2.3 for Trauma is…worse. :-)

  • j

    If you don’t want to look at lead-ins/retention, well Lie to Me & Fringe are both well down from their avg seasonal #’s from last year.

    And if you do, both shows lose signif audience from their current lead-ins.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    PAS, a 2.5 is plenty horrible for Heroes, but at least a good % of its viewers are 18-49. 2.3 for Trauma is…worse. :-)

  • tal

    Ahh, Castle holding steady but I was hoping it had improved on last week.

  • Dan Scott

    Way to go OTH!

  • rick

    the big band theory did amazing in the demo

  • CSM

    Regardless of the whole retention debate, a 2.9 would have been below average based on Fox’s 18-49 average from last week, might not be this week so probably ok and FOX definitely will want to give the show several weeks to try and settle in and find an audience so I don’t think it’s in any danger.

    Nice fact there Julia, but wasn’t Prison Break airing after Terminator, not House or am I wrong about that?? I never understood why Fox didn’t leave Lie airing after Idol so it would have had awhile to try and find its audience. I guess better late than never though, airing after House hopefully will help the show stand on its own.

  • tal

    Ahh, Castle holding steady but I was hoping it had improved on last week.

  • Dan Scott

    Way to go OTH!

  • rick

    the big band theory did amazing in the demo

  • CSM

    Regardless of the whole retention debate, a 2.9 would have been below average based on Fox’s 18-49 average from last week, might not be this week so probably ok and FOX definitely will want to give the show several weeks to try and settle in and find an audience so I don’t think it’s in any danger.

    Nice fact there Julia, but wasn’t Prison Break airing after Terminator, not House or am I wrong about that?? I never understood why Fox didn’t leave Lie airing after Idol so it would have had awhile to try and find its audience. I guess better late than never though, airing after House hopefully will help the show stand on its own.

  • Julia

    True, Holly. But if Fox claims to be happy with Fringe because the timeslot has shown growth, I imagine they will feel the same way about Lie to Me. Still too early to know for sure how the season will go for either of them, though.

  • Ike

    Wow, appalling results for Trauma. Plus, it looks very expensive to produce. It’s not my kind of show but I think it could appeal to a big audience… if it were on another network. I can’t imagine a much more mainstream drama, although there are much BETTER dramas.

    If this doesn’t work for NBC in this slot, what will? Should they just give up and air Dateline or cheap reality crap on Mondays?

    This doesn’t bode well for other upcoming NBC shows like the very intriguing-sounding Persons Unknown. Maybe that would get better results if they had left it to the Sci-Fi Channel (as originally planned?), or put it on USA!

  • http://remotecontrolsyou.com Julia

    True, Holly. But if Fox claims to be happy with Fringe because the timeslot has shown growth, I imagine they will feel the same way about Lie to Me. Still too early to know for sure how the season will go for either of them, though.

  • Ike

    Wow, appalling results for Trauma. Plus, it looks very expensive to produce. It’s not my kind of show but I think it could appeal to a big audience… if it were on another network. I can’t imagine a much more mainstream drama, although there are much BETTER dramas.

    If this doesn’t work for NBC in this slot, what will? Should they just give up and air Dateline or cheap reality crap on Mondays?

    This doesn’t bode well for other upcoming NBC shows like the very intriguing-sounding Persons Unknown. Maybe that would get better results if they had left it to the Sci-Fi Channel (as originally planned?), or put it on USA!

  • Pas

    Yeah I know how horrible it is ^^ But I was waiting for something around/below 2.0 because of all the fuss lol :)
    And I was indeed talking about the 18-49 :)

    Since I don’t live in the US, I just watch the numbers you post out of curiosity though :) .

  • Vamp Mom

    If I’m reading the numbers correctly, Lie To Me lost half of House’s audience. That can’t be good. I watched the LTM premiere and the only concern I have is the Lightman character. I used to watch House and just reached a point where I couldn’t take the abrasiveness of the House character anymore. I’m afraid the same thing may happen with Lightman. He’s losing the endearing quality that made him so much fun last year. If the writers keep it up, he’ll be just another one dimensional a**hole like House. Thank goodness Castle follows at 10 pm. At’s nice to have some fun just before bed.

  • Pas

    Yeah I know how horrible it is ^^ But I was waiting for something around/below 2.0 because of all the fuss lol :)
    And I was indeed talking about the 18-49 :)

    Since I don’t live in the US, I just watch the numbers you post out of curiosity though :) .

  • Vamp Mom

    If I’m reading the numbers correctly, Lie To Me lost half of House’s audience. That can’t be good. I watched the LTM premiere and the only concern I have is the Lightman character. I used to watch House and just reached a point where I couldn’t take the abrasiveness of the House character anymore. I’m afraid the same thing may happen with Lightman. He’s losing the endearing quality that made him so much fun last year. If the writers keep it up, he’ll be just another one dimensional a**hole like House. Thank goodness Castle follows at 10 pm. At’s nice to have some fun just before bed.

  • Dan

    Mother and Purpose dipped, Lie to Me on kly retained half of Heroes. And I dont see Trauma as disastourous. It built on the low rated Heroes by a little.

  • Dan

    I meant Lie to Me retained half of House

  • Dan

    Mother and Purpose dipped, Lie to Me on kly retained half of Heroes. And I dont see Trauma as disastourous. It built on the low rated Heroes by a little.

  • Dan

    I meant Lie to Me retained half of House

  • Hudson

    Soooo….. even though Heroes ratings are pretty horrible, it’s still NBC’s top drama in the demos?

  • Hudson

    Soooo….. even though Heroes ratings are pretty horrible, it’s still NBC’s top drama in the demos?

  • Shreve

    I enjoyed castle last night and it seems the viewership is pretty steady when compared to last week. I was really hoping that it would go up though since I figured others like me missed the premire.

    I am a recovering heros addict. I watched everything up untill this season, I simply gave up the hope that it would ever get back to it’s former glory.

  • Shreve

    I enjoyed castle last night and it seems the viewership is pretty steady when compared to last week. I was really hoping that it would go up though since I figured others like me missed the premire.

    I am a recovering heros addict. I watched everything up untill this season, I simply gave up the hope that it would ever get back to it’s former glory.

  • Anonymous

    @Julia, FOX will claim they’re happy no matter what ;)

    On the other hand, I think Fringe is doing as well as most shows could be expected to do in that slot. I’m not as sure that’s true for Lie To Me. I don’t think it’s in any trouble, but FOX could have realistically been expecting a bit better.

  • Holly

    @Julia, FOX will claim they’re happy no matter what ;)

    On the other hand, I think Fringe is doing as well as most shows could be expected to do in that slot. I’m not as sure that’s true for Lie To Me. I don’t think it’s in any trouble, but FOX could have realistically been expecting a bit better.

  • Rob

    The jokes on you GG, OTH still beats this overpromoted show

  • witheringrose

    Wow! Big Bang Theory has really exploded – topping 2 Half Men in the demos and nearly matching their total viewers. I guess CBS has finally found their comedy to anchor Monday nights after 2 Half Men ends in 3 years or so.

    HIMYM was hilarious last night and IMO a funnier show than BBT. But I guess BBT is a more accessible show —4 nerds and a hot girl —easy enough concept to grasp.

    Heroes will most likely drop below the 2.0 plateau by mid-season. NBC should really consider moving it to Friday nights and cutting short its episode order.

  • Pat

    NBC won’t stick with Trauma very long as it is so expensive

  • Rob

    The jokes on you GG, OTH still beats this overpromoted show

  • witheringrose

    Wow! Big Bang Theory has really exploded – topping 2 Half Men in the demos and nearly matching their total viewers. I guess CBS has finally found their comedy to anchor Monday nights after 2 Half Men ends in 3 years or so.

    HIMYM was hilarious last night and IMO a funnier show than BBT. But I guess BBT is a more accessible show —4 nerds and a hot girl —easy enough concept to grasp.

    Heroes will most likely drop below the 2.0 plateau by mid-season. NBC should really consider moving it to Friday nights and cutting short its episode order.

  • Pat

    NBC won’t stick with Trauma very long as it is so expensive

  • Dario

    Heroes did better than Trauma, that’s most important. + it did better than Castle :)

  • thirdsaint

    I still think Fringe would be better behind House and Lie To Me is better suited behind Bones as far as audiences go. I’m glad House pulled in those strong numbers though. I hope for at least a few more seasons of it.

  • MC

    Looks like Trauma and Heroes are heading for cancellation….along with Mercy. L&O is in what is probably it’s last year and SVU’s ratings are way down. Southland will bomb horribly on Friday while P&R and Community are already in the dumps.

    Does NBC have anything you could actually call a success right now?

  • Dario

    Heroes did better than Trauma, that’s most important. + it did better than Castle :)

  • thirdsaint

    I still think Fringe would be better behind House and Lie To Me is better suited behind Bones as far as audiences go. I’m glad House pulled in those strong numbers though. I hope for at least a few more seasons of it.

  • MC

    Looks like Trauma and Heroes are heading for cancellation….along with Mercy. L&O is in what is probably it’s last year and SVU’s ratings are way down. Southland will bomb horribly on Friday while P&R and Community are already in the dumps.

    Does NBC have anything you could actually call a success right now?

  • timm w

    so heroes is going to die. Well, the new season is not that good, to be quiet honest it sucks. I mean a “no hiro” episode? beside the matt/sylar arc NOTHING has happened this week.

    I mean in the first season there was a common theme, save the cheerleader save the world. no it is like “uhh?”

    i really like the samuel charakter but he gets not enough air time but claire is ALL OVER THE PLACE. why? she is as boring as hell and there is NO development in her charakter.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Robert Seidman

    GG had a good night with women 18-34, where it did better than OTH, but GG didn’t have to go up against House

  • timm w

    so heroes is going to die. Well, the new season is not that good, to be quiet honest it sucks. I mean a “no hiro” episode? beside the matt/sylar arc NOTHING has happened this week.

    I mean in the first season there was a common theme, save the cheerleader save the world. no it is like “uhh?”

    i really like the samuel charakter but he gets not enough air time but claire is ALL OVER THE PLACE. why? she is as boring as hell and there is NO development in her charakter.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    GG had a good night with women 18-34, where it did better than OTH, but GG didn’t have to go up against House

  • MC

    Also: Wow, BBT over a FIVE?! Congrats to them, it’s a great show.

  • Yisascry

    Great numbers for Gossip Girl!! I expected that Hilary duff make them grew up next monday!! Please!! at least 1.5 in 18-49 Demo!!

  • Kathy B.

    Were both Lie to Me and Castle renewed for only 13 episodes?

  • timm w

    @MC: Sad as it is, but it seems that jay is NBCs success this season. (moneywise)

  • MC

    Also: Wow, BBT over a FIVE?! Congrats to them, it’s a great show.

  • Yisascry

    Great numbers for Gossip Girl!! I expected that Hilary duff make them grew up next monday!! Please!! at least 1.5 in 18-49 Demo!!

  • Kathy B.

    Were both Lie to Me and Castle renewed for only 13 episodes?

  • timm w

    @MC: Sad as it is, but it seems that jay is NBCs success this season. (moneywise)

  • Tom

    Not a whole lot of surprises, frankly:

    Heroes is down to the die-hards and the sci-fi junkies. The quality would really have to decrease before this drops into the low 2s. NBC should still pull the plug and schedule the series finale during Feb sweeps (their likely plan all along).

    Trauma had harsh reviews. Again, all episodes will air (do Heroes & Trauma swap slots?), but what NBC airs between Trauma & Olympics is the question.

    House will be back below 5.0 soon, as they slow go back to the status quo.

    Retentionistas be damned, Lie to Me was up from its late spring average. House bump (as well as good reviews) takes credit. The question being just what this can climb to, and what Fox does with it in Winter (it doesn’t have a timeslot nor a backorder). Fringe did better than this after House after all, and look at how they now do on Thursday.

    No real surprises with CBS. AoP may or may not get more episodes to cover until RoE takes over.

    No real surprises with ABC either. I still think Castle gets pre-empted as ABC tries other shows (like Forgotten) there.. and still ends up with a backorder (barring a miraculous mid-season find).

    No real surprises with CW either. Witness what Damn hath wroth…

  • Tom

    Not a whole lot of surprises, frankly:

    Heroes is down to the die-hards and the sci-fi junkies. The quality would really have to decrease before this drops into the low 2s. NBC should still pull the plug and schedule the series finale during Feb sweeps (their likely plan all along).

    Trauma had harsh reviews. Again, all episodes will air (do Heroes & Trauma swap slots?), but what NBC airs between Trauma & Olympics is the question.

    House will be back below 5.0 soon, as they slow go back to the status quo.

    Retentionistas be damned, Lie to Me was up from its late spring average. House bump (as well as good reviews) takes credit. The question being just what this can climb to, and what Fox does with it in Winter (it doesn’t have a timeslot nor a backorder). Fringe did better than this after House after all, and look at how they now do on Thursday.

    No real surprises with CBS. AoP may or may not get more episodes to cover until RoE takes over.

    No real surprises with ABC either. I still think Castle gets pre-empted as ABC tries other shows (like Forgotten) there.. and still ends up with a backorder (barring a miraculous mid-season find).

    No real surprises with CW either. Witness what Damn hath wroth…

  • Tom

    Witness what Dawn hath wrought, even. I should proofread.

  • Anonymous

    @MC, Biggest Loser?

  • Tom

    Witness what Dawn hath wrought, even. I should proofread.

  • Holly

    @MC, Biggest Loser?

  • Dan

    MC – so basically every NBC show is done after this season except L&O SVU, Office, and 30 Rock. NBC is in trouble.

    Trauma rose above Heroes but its premiere is still OK. While Lie to Me is an improvement over Prison Break, it still lost a lot of House.

    I guess well have to look at how the three newer series do in the upcoming weeks, until we make a guess on their future.
    Lie to Me
    Trauma
    Accidentally on Purpose

  • Dan

    MC – so basically every NBC show is done after this season except L&O SVU, Office, and 30 Rock. NBC is in trouble.

    Trauma rose above Heroes but its premiere is still OK. While Lie to Me is an improvement over Prison Break, it still lost a lot of House.

    I guess well have to look at how the three newer series do in the upcoming weeks, until we make a guess on their future.
    Lie to Me
    Trauma
    Accidentally on Purpose

  • mannoia

    good bye lie to me, i will never miss you..
    taruma or trauma is the same..

  • mannoia

    good bye lie to me, i will never miss you..
    taruma or trauma is the same..

  • Tar

    next week GG gets Hillary Duff joining for at least 7 episodes + Tyra Banks + Kelly Rutherford (who plays the character they were going to spinoff) returns from her maternity leave = Ratings go UP

    week after Hillary Duff still on, episode is the wedding of two series regulars (Lily + Rufus) where they probably discover they 20 year old son is still alive and the conclusion of two major recurring roles (Georgina and Bree) = Ratings UP even more

  • Tar

    next week GG gets Hillary Duff joining for at least 7 episodes + Tyra Banks + Kelly Rutherford (who plays the character they were going to spinoff) returns from her maternity leave = Ratings go UP

    week after Hillary Duff still on, episode is the wedding of two series regulars (Lily + Rufus) where they probably discover they 20 year old son is still alive and the conclusion of two major recurring roles (Georgina and Bree) = Ratings UP even more

  • Tar

    My personal predictions that no one will agree with Dollhouse will get a back 9 Lie to Me will not

  • Bryan

    omg look at ´two and a half men and the big bang theory, wow, pretty amazing !! :O

  • Tar

    My personal predictions that no one will agree with Dollhouse will get a back 9 Lie to Me will not

  • Bryan

    omg look at ´two and a half men and the big bang theory, wow, pretty amazing !! :O

  • Dan Scott

    lol @ Tar

    GG isn’t going up. They could have Obama guest-star and it’ll still feel the wrath of OTH.

    CW is finished. GG is finished.

    Supernatural, OTH and Smallville (the WB originals) will live on forever.

  • Dan Scott

    lol @ Tar

    GG isn’t going up. They could have Obama guest-star and it’ll still feel the wrath of OTH.

    CW is finished. GG is finished.

    Supernatural, OTH and Smallville (the WB originals) will live on forever.

  • timm w

    the lorre block would eat heroes alive thats why nbc put heroes in the 8 slot and trauma in the 9.

  • timm w

    the lorre block would eat heroes alive thats why nbc put heroes in the 8 slot and trauma in the 9.

  • emily24

    Hiya Billy,

    ABC the “procedurally challenged network”:

    I hate “Castle” and was not surprised to see it show its true colors…a demo in the 2′s and a huge drop in demo and audience at the half hour.

    NBC development…nice job again with “Trauma”…the revolving door of development execs have once again proved they are so out of touch with viewers wants! How Jeff Zucker keeps his job is beyond me..he must be like J. Edgar Hoover who had “dirt” files on his enemies as well as his friends. Zucker is like those execs who ran General Motors into the ground but kept getting raises and cashing bonus checks.

    At Fox..the “cartoon network”…”Lie to Me” numbers were terrible…you get a “House” lead-in and that’s the best you do? Stick to making Friday night cartoons and “High School Musical” ripoff shows. Stay away from airing new scripted dramas and sitcoms.

    At CBS..a 4.7 for my main man Charlie Sheen…I love the show…its about Charlie and how he sleeps with as many pretty ladies as he can and then dumps them…the women are all depicted as ditzy bimbo mattresses…its a miracle “Two and a Half Men” got greenlit considering development is primarily controlled by humorless, uptight, moody, backstabbing FEMINIST development execs…

    Love,

    Emily

    PS- Can’t wait for “Glee” to drop into the 2′s

    PSS- Loved those awful, embarrassing “Brothers”, “Dollhouse”, “Fringe” numbers…FOX development chose “Brothers” over “Modern Family”…nice move!

  • Pas

    +1 to Tom.
    - Heroes is down to the hooked eople that will hardly let go (well they hang on a whole year already so now that it is actually better than before, they might as well go until the end…).
    - House down a bit if it’s heading to the status quo.

    A move to Friday for Heroes wouldn’t shock me but is there anything that could do significantly better ? That would be another problem to solve…

  • Dan

    Tar – If that happens I would be shocked. It would beg the question why would FOX give a renewal to a series that only draws 2 million viewers, and cancel a series that does OK. Dollhouse will be gone, but depending on how the series performs or if FOX wants to keep it will determine what will happen to Lie to Me.

  • emily24

    Hiya Billy,

    ABC the “procedurally challenged network”:

    I hate “Castle” and was not surprised to see it show its true colors…a demo in the 2′s and a huge drop in demo and audience at the half hour.

    NBC development…nice job again with “Trauma”…the revolving door of development execs have once again proved they are so out of touch with viewers wants! How Jeff Zucker keeps his job is beyond me..he must be like J. Edgar Hoover who had “dirt” files on his enemies as well as his friends. Zucker is like those execs who ran General Motors into the ground but kept getting raises and cashing bonus checks.

    At Fox..the “cartoon network”…”Lie to Me” numbers were terrible…you get a “House” lead-in and that’s the best you do? Stick to making Friday night cartoons and “High School Musical” ripoff shows. Stay away from airing new scripted dramas and sitcoms.

    At CBS..a 4.7 for my main man Charlie Sheen…I love the show…its about Charlie and how he sleeps with as many pretty ladies as he can and then dumps them…the women are all depicted as ditzy bimbo mattresses…its a miracle “Two and a Half Men” got greenlit considering development is primarily controlled by humorless, uptight, moody, backstabbing FEMINIST development execs…

    Love,

    Emily

    PS- Can’t wait for “Glee” to drop into the 2′s

    PSS- Loved those awful, embarrassing “Brothers”, “Dollhouse”, “Fringe” numbers…FOX development chose “Brothers” over “Modern Family”…nice move!

  • Pas

    +1 to Tom.
    - Heroes is down to the hooked eople that will hardly let go (well they hang on a whole year already so now that it is actually better than before, they might as well go until the end…).
    - House down a bit if it’s heading to the status quo.

    A move to Friday for Heroes wouldn’t shock me but is there anything that could do significantly better ? That would be another problem to solve…

  • Dan

    Tar – If that happens I would be shocked. It would beg the question why would FOX give a renewal to a series that only draws 2 million viewers, and cancel a series that does OK. Dollhouse will be gone, but depending on how the series performs or if FOX wants to keep it will determine what will happen to Lie to Me.

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  • Fin

    So basically Heroes in a harder timeslot, is beating the series premiere’s of both Trauma and Mercy, and the same as the season premiere of Law & Order: SVU (which is in a massively easier timeslot). Plus I have to note that Trauma did increase in veiwers from Heroes but fell in 18-49. OUCH! Plus if L&O: SVU and Mercy don’t exceed a 2.5 that will make HEROES NBC’s biggest drama in the 18-49! Which is sad really for NBC.
    NBC must be hoping for a miracle when Day One, Parenthood premiere. Also I think Chuck will most likely be a small hit for NBC now, seeing as it will be just under or above Heroes, and beating almost all other drama’s.
    On another note Leno seems for now to be doing better than expected and just as well for NBC seeing as Trauma and Mercy have bombed I think NBC dogded a bullet with 10pm drama as that would have bombed for NBC.

  • Jaye

    Castle (59 minutes)
    - 9.265 million viewers
    - 6.1/10 HH
    - 2.3/6 A18-49
    (last wk numbers)

    at least Castle got more total viewers, otherwise its maintaining… but will it be enough is the question. if it could last until the Oscars, it could get a boost but who knows… it was a great episode last nite tho

    HIMYM certainly dropped. guess a lot of the viewership was from NPH hosting the Emmys or from ppl watching promos of it on CBS. had a 5.5/8 HH (3.6/10 A18-49) and 9.085 million viewers last wk

  • Tar

    @Dan Scott
    we’ll see next week Hillary Duff + Tyra Banks have power with GG’s audience though Robert Pattison would probably be even better if they recast their upcoming vampire role with him

  • Fin

    So basically Heroes in a harder timeslot, is beating the series premiere’s of both Trauma and Mercy, and the same as the season premiere of Law & Order: SVU (which is in a massively easier timeslot). Plus I have to note that Trauma did increase in veiwers from Heroes but fell in 18-49. OUCH! Plus if L&O: SVU and Mercy don’t exceed a 2.5 that will make HEROES NBC’s biggest drama in the 18-49! Which is sad really for NBC.
    NBC must be hoping for a miracle when Day One, Parenthood premiere. Also I think Chuck will most likely be a small hit for NBC now, seeing as it will be just under or above Heroes, and beating almost all other drama’s.
    On another note Leno seems for now to be doing better than expected and just as well for NBC seeing as Trauma and Mercy have bombed I think NBC dogded a bullet with 10pm drama as that would have bombed for NBC.

  • Jaye

    Castle (59 minutes)
    - 9.265 million viewers
    - 6.1/10 HH
    - 2.3/6 A18-49
    (last wk numbers)

    at least Castle got more total viewers, otherwise its maintaining… but will it be enough is the question. if it could last until the Oscars, it could get a boost but who knows… it was a great episode last nite tho

    HIMYM certainly dropped. guess a lot of the viewership was from NPH hosting the Emmys or from ppl watching promos of it on CBS. had a 5.5/8 HH (3.6/10 A18-49) and 9.085 million viewers last wk

  • Tar

    @Dan Scott
    we’ll see next week Hillary Duff + Tyra Banks have power with GG’s audience though Robert Pattison would probably be even better if they recast their upcoming vampire role with him

  • Anonymous

    OK, overall thoughts:

    CBS did well. AOP dropped slightly from last week, but no more than would be expected from a premiere (maybe less, since it only lost 0.1 in the demo). TBBT hit another high and actually beats Men in the demo. Looks like CBS made a good choice in moving that to 9:30. Miami didn’t lose much from last week either, so all in all, a very good Monday for them.

    House took the expected fall from last week, but still did really well. It’s still slightly above what it was doing last fall. I don’t think FOX is breaking out the champagne for Lie To Me’s performance, but they can’t be upset about it either. If it can stay close to a 3.0, it will be just fine regardless of what House gets.

    ABC might not be as happy. Dancing is down quite a bit from last year. It’s still OK, but not nearly as strong as it had been. Castle stayed steady from last week, so no complaints there.

    NBC…well…ouch. Heroes can’t pull a 3 and is probably more of a liability than an asset. I suppose Trauma premiered about as well as could be expected given the state of NBC, but it was still bad.

  • Jonathan B.

    Weird how CBS’ comedies either dropped or stayed level in viewers, yet mostly increased in the Demo from last week. That’s especially impressive for TBBT, confirming its frontrunner status for the post-Super Bowl slot IMO.

  • Holly

    OK, overall thoughts:

    CBS did well. AOP dropped slightly from last week, but no more than would be expected from a premiere (maybe less, since it only lost 0.1 in the demo). TBBT hit another high and actually beats Men in the demo. Looks like CBS made a good choice in moving that to 9:30. Miami didn’t lose much from last week either, so all in all, a very good Monday for them.

    House took the expected fall from last week, but still did really well. It’s still slightly above what it was doing last fall. I don’t think FOX is breaking out the champagne for Lie To Me’s performance, but they can’t be upset about it either. If it can stay close to a 3.0, it will be just fine regardless of what House gets.

    ABC might not be as happy. Dancing is down quite a bit from last year. It’s still OK, but not nearly as strong as it had been. Castle stayed steady from last week, so no complaints there.

    NBC…well…ouch. Heroes can’t pull a 3 and is probably more of a liability than an asset. I suppose Trauma premiered about as well as could be expected given the state of NBC, but it was still bad.

  • Jonathan B.

    Weird how CBS’ comedies either dropped or stayed level in viewers, yet mostly increased in the Demo from last week. That’s especially impressive for TBBT, confirming its frontrunner status for the post-Super Bowl slot IMO.

  • Samuel

    Well trauma is a new fail in the history of NBC’s new shows. Didn’t watch, won’t watch.

    Lie to me did way worse than what I expected. I expected the show to do at least a 10 million 3.0 with house leading in. Now Fringe premiere numbers do not appear that bad. Same demo, higher viewing, not by much.

    I still think lie to me would have had a better run paired with bones on Thursday. To criminal procedural is better than a procedural and a sci fi show. And Fringe worked well with House.

    House is down, but its still nuking the night. And I think those numbers are still better than last year premiere. So I guess this is a good sign.

  • Samuel

    Well trauma is a new fail in the history of NBC’s new shows. Didn’t watch, won’t watch.

    Lie to me did way worse than what I expected. I expected the show to do at least a 10 million 3.0 with house leading in. Now Fringe premiere numbers do not appear that bad. Same demo, higher viewing, not by much.

    I still think lie to me would have had a better run paired with bones on Thursday. To criminal procedural is better than a procedural and a sci fi show. And Fringe worked well with House.

    House is down, but its still nuking the night. And I think those numbers are still better than last year premiere. So I guess this is a good sign.

  • Bruce

    I’m surprised “Accidentally On Purpose” is holding so close to HIMYM’s numbers. I thought viewers would reject the show outright but I certainly didn’t see the drop-off I was expecting last night.

  • Joe Jackson

    [quote="tom"]Heroes is down to the die-hards and the[b] sci-fi junkies[/b][/quote]

    Nay, we gave up on it too

  • Jon

    House did great but Lie to Me is worrying considering it was getting 8-9m on Wednesdays, CBS had a solid night and the decision to put The Big Bang Theory at 9.30 paid off and CSI:Miami is pulling in a decent audience although the demo went down a tick.

    Castle is doing fine and I think it may get a full season order but it depends how it does when DWTS is off air.

  • Bruce

    I’m surprised “Accidentally On Purpose” is holding so close to HIMYM’s numbers. I thought viewers would reject the show outright but I certainly didn’t see the drop-off I was expecting last night.

  • Joe Jackson

    [quote="tom"]Heroes is down to the die-hards and the[b] sci-fi junkies[/b][/quote]

    Nay, we gave up on it too

  • Jon

    House did great but Lie to Me is worrying considering it was getting 8-9m on Wednesdays, CBS had a solid night and the decision to put The Big Bang Theory at 9.30 paid off and CSI:Miami is pulling in a decent audience although the demo went down a tick.

    Castle is doing fine and I think it may get a full season order but it depends how it does when DWTS is off air.

  • Tom

    Trying to figure out what NBC should do next year is a crapshoot. At this point I honestly think they should cancel:

    Heroes/Trauma/Day One/Mercy/SVU/Parks/L&O/Southland
    Add to that the 50/50s:
    Chuck/Community(ratings decay doesn’t look good at 9:30, could get ugly at 8)/Leno(ratings better than expected so far, will see how it does in long run though)

    And all you end up with guaranteed for next year is three hours of programming. Who knows what NBC will keep that they shouldn’t under those conditions. NBC renewals for 10 will significantly depend on producers and license fees.

  • DW

    Gossip Girl is easily one of my favorite shows on television, but there’s no way the likes of Hillary Duff and Tyra Banks are going to make ratings go up. If anything, people will flee in terror.

  • Jaye

    Dan,

    if Obama was on GG, the numbers would explode so fast that you could see the explosion from the moon by the naked eye.. lol.

    Emily,

    for a “girl” you certainly are the most anti-feminist one i have ever come encounter with…

    and considering the NBC numbers, Chuck may be a shoo-in for a renewal because a good chunk of their shows arent making it

  • Tom

    Trying to figure out what NBC should do next year is a crapshoot. At this point I honestly think they should cancel:

    Heroes/Trauma/Day One/Mercy/SVU/Parks/L&O/Southland
    Add to that the 50/50s:
    Chuck/Community(ratings decay doesn’t look good at 9:30, could get ugly at 8)/Leno(ratings better than expected so far, will see how it does in long run though)

    And all you end up with guaranteed for next year is three hours of programming. Who knows what NBC will keep that they shouldn’t under those conditions. NBC renewals for 10 will significantly depend on producers and license fees.

  • DW

    Gossip Girl is easily one of my favorite shows on television, but there’s no way the likes of Hillary Duff and Tyra Banks are going to make ratings go up. If anything, people will flee in terror.

  • Jaye

    Dan,

    if Obama was on GG, the numbers would explode so fast that you could see the explosion from the moon by the naked eye.. lol.

    Emily,

    for a “girl” you certainly are the most anti-feminist one i have ever come encounter with…

    and considering the NBC numbers, Chuck may be a shoo-in for a renewal because a good chunk of their shows arent making it

  • Brian D

    Interesting changes made by CBS for the better I’d say. BBT no doubt is carrying a bunch of the 2 1/2 Men audience as I don’t remember ever seeing those kind of ratings for them before. Heroes continues to look uglier. Perhaps that’s just cause NBC continues to look uglier. Then there’s Trauma, what can you say about Trauma??? It’s so fake that the average Joe look at it and think that’s not realistic.

  • Brian D

    Interesting changes made by CBS for the better I’d say. BBT no doubt is carrying a bunch of the 2 1/2 Men audience as I don’t remember ever seeing those kind of ratings for them before. Heroes continues to look uglier. Perhaps that’s just cause NBC continues to look uglier. Then there’s Trauma, what can you say about Trauma??? It’s so fake that the average Joe look at it and think that’s not realistic.

  • Dario

    WOW! I JUST REALISED THIS : HEROES IS NBC’S BEST 18-49 SHOW! IT’S BETTER THAN MERCY, TRAUMA, LAW & ORDER SVU, JAY LENO…

  • Samuel

    So Emily, still waiting for FlashForward to get bad ratings? Because if I recall, it was suppose to be a huge disaster… Seems like you were wrong.

    And I didn’t know watching TV was the new way of doing politics… Last I saw someone so hateful and aggressive, he was a politician… Or maybe you are!

  • Dario

    WOW! I JUST REALISED THIS : HEROES IS NBC’S BEST 18-49 SHOW! IT’S BETTER THAN MERCY, TRAUMA, LAW & ORDER SVU, JAY LENO…

  • Samuel

    So Emily, still waiting for FlashForward to get bad ratings? Because if I recall, it was suppose to be a huge disaster… Seems like you were wrong.

    And I didn’t know watching TV was the new way of doing politics… Last I saw someone so hateful and aggressive, he was a politician… Or maybe you are!

  • Tar

    BTW Obama said he watches Gossip Girl seriously google Obama Gossip Girl CW i think did a press release that the president supports their show (not kidding)

  • Tar

    BTW Obama said he watches Gossip Girl seriously google Obama Gossip Girl CW i think did a press release that the president supports their show (not kidding)

  • DW

    It seems Emily wants everything on TV to get terrible ratings. You just can’t trust the sort of cold soul that would root against Glee.

  • Jonathan B.

    Dario: Office?

  • DW

    It seems Emily wants everything on TV to get terrible ratings. You just can’t trust the sort of cold soul that would root against Glee.

  • Jonathan B.

    Dario: Office?

  • Chucksmom

    Oh- how I wish NBC would just end Heroes so it can wrap up the story arc and end on a good note.

    It breaks my heart how remembering how good that show use to be.

    The minute Kelly Osbourne gets voted off of DWTS, ratings will drop quite a bit.

  • Chucksmom

    Oh- how I wish NBC would just end Heroes so it can wrap up the story arc and end on a good note.

    It breaks my heart how remembering how good that show use to be.

    The minute Kelly Osbourne gets voted off of DWTS, ratings will drop quite a bit.

  • thirdsaint

    So have we discovered if there’s anything Emily DOES actually like? Hah.

  • Bruce

    Chucksmom:

    I think, so far, this season of Heroes is an improvement over last season which I believe was absolutely horrid. Unfortunately, most people who watched the show have abandoned it and just don’t care anymore.

    I’d be surprised if the series isn’t wrapped up sometime during the current season.

  • thirdsaint

    So have we discovered if there’s anything Emily DOES actually like? Hah.

  • Bruce

    Chucksmom:

    I think, so far, this season of Heroes is an improvement over last season which I believe was absolutely horrid. Unfortunately, most people who watched the show have abandoned it and just don’t care anymore.

    I’d be surprised if the series isn’t wrapped up sometime during the current season.

  • Chucksmom

    I agree Heroes is an improvement from last season.

    Just wrap up the series and maybe NBC can grab more views on Monday night. If NBC comes out and says this is the last year for Heroes, old fans will come back.

    I hope they don’t run the show into the ground because they don’t have any other dramas lined-up.

  • Chucksmom

    I agree Heroes is an improvement from last season.

    Just wrap up the series and maybe NBC can grab more views on Monday night. If NBC comes out and says this is the last year for Heroes, old fans will come back.

    I hope they don’t run the show into the ground because they don’t have any other dramas lined-up.

  • wilma dornig

    LENO EFFECT IN EFFECT

    NBC IN DEATH SPIRAL

  • wilma dornig

    LENO EFFECT IN EFFECT

    NBC IN DEATH SPIRAL

  • A5J4D X

    omg im really bummed out about heroes ratings wtf man 5.82m ;(

  • Robert Watson

    I’m just glad that Castle is hanging on by a thread. I love the show.

  • A5J4D X

    omg im really bummed out about heroes ratings wtf man 5.82m ;(

  • Robert Watson

    I’m just glad that Castle is hanging on by a thread. I love the show.

  • Bruce

    I don’t expect Castle to set any ratings records. I’ll be glad if the show keeps its ratings up enough to stay on the air. I’m a big fan too.

  • Bruce

    I don’t expect Castle to set any ratings records. I’ll be glad if the show keeps its ratings up enough to stay on the air. I’m a big fan too.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Robert Seidman

    Holly, I added your analysis to the post :-)

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Holly, I added your analysis to the post :-)

  • Pas

    +1 : They should wrap up Heroes. What we’ve got so far looks good but won’t bring back lost viewers and they should go out on a good note.

  • Pas

    +1 : They should wrap up Heroes. What we’ve got so far looks good but won’t bring back lost viewers and they should go out on a good note.

  • sam

    LOVED Trauma the reason you guys dont like it is bacause you did not watch it! and when Hilary Duff was on SVU it had a 2 million viewers spike could we expect the same for Gossip Girl?

  • GB

    Hey, A5J4D X, 5.82 is actually up from last week for heroes. It’s a good sign; it means that as best we can tell now heroes isn’t going to go into a free fall like last season, and it will achieve some ratings stability.

  • sam

    LOVED Trauma the reason you guys dont like it is bacause you did not watch it! and when Hilary Duff was on SVU it had a 2 million viewers spike could we expect the same for Gossip Girl?

  • GB

    Hey, A5J4D X, 5.82 is actually up from last week for heroes. It’s a good sign; it means that as best we can tell now heroes isn’t going to go into a free fall like last season, and it will achieve some ratings stability.

  • Christopher

    what hell i dont know what to watch when everything is crashing down i have everyting taped so i am not going to bother to watch anything but the high rated stuff

  • Anonymous

    @Robert,

    Wow, I feel special :blush:

    But could you edit the last sentence of the CBS section to say “Miami didn’t lose…” rather than loose. I realized that after I hit post.

  • Christopher

    what hell i dont know what to watch when everything is crashing down i have everyting taped so i am not going to bother to watch anything but the high rated stuff

  • Holly

    @Robert,

    Wow, I feel special :blush:

    But could you edit the last sentence of the CBS section to say “Miami didn’t lose…” rather than loose. I realized that after I hit post.

  • Elyk

    The Big Bang Theory is a huge success for CBS. Hopefully they keep it where it is, and don’t move it to Wednesday where it would probably die…

  • Elyk

    The Big Bang Theory is a huge success for CBS. Hopefully they keep it where it is, and don’t move it to Wednesday where it would probably die…

  • Vinny

    Bill or robert r u guys going to post the renewal/cancellation list today????

  • Vinny

    Bill or robert r u guys going to post the renewal/cancellation list today????

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Robert Seidman

    Holly, fixed!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks :oops:

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Robert Seidman

    Holly, fixed!

  • Holly

    Thanks :oops:

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Vinny, I have to eat my lunch first, then it will be posted. ;)

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Vinny, I have to eat my lunch first, then it will be posted. ;)

  • ken

    Impressive showing for TBBT, outperforming 2 1/2 Men, disapointing for Lie to Me, House is still a beast in the ratings. Heroes, as bad as the ratings have been this year, three of the worst rated episodes in their history, the only NBC shows to top their demos have been football, Biggest Loser, the Office and Community (really). So, bad as the ratings are they are still better than most of NBC.

    Trauma, only saw bits and pieces, too little to judge it’s quality, but it’s ratings don’t justify the cost of the pilot, I think somewhere near 8 million (really).

  • porky

    The Big Bang Theory is a really good show. CBS has definitely hit the jackpot with their 8pm-9pm Monday pairing.

    I wonder if this is it for Heroes. I know it has other ways of generating money for NBC, but it’s been a sinking ship since season two. Though I suppose it’s still one of the most watched shows NBC has.

    I wonder what Fox’s expectations for LTM were? I thought they were looking at LTM as a potential replacement for 24 going forward after this year. Not sure that’s the case, but it’s still a step up from the past.

  • ken

    Impressive showing for TBBT, outperforming 2 1/2 Men, disapointing for Lie to Me, House is still a beast in the ratings. Heroes, as bad as the ratings have been this year, three of the worst rated episodes in their history, the only NBC shows to top their demos have been football, Biggest Loser, the Office and Community (really). So, bad as the ratings are they are still better than most of NBC.

    Trauma, only saw bits and pieces, too little to judge it’s quality, but it’s ratings don’t justify the cost of the pilot, I think somewhere near 8 million (really).

  • porky

    The Big Bang Theory is a really good show. CBS has definitely hit the jackpot with their 8pm-9pm Monday pairing.

    I wonder if this is it for Heroes. I know it has other ways of generating money for NBC, but it’s been a sinking ship since season two. Though I suppose it’s still one of the most watched shows NBC has.

    I wonder what Fox’s expectations for LTM were? I thought they were looking at LTM as a potential replacement for 24 going forward after this year. Not sure that’s the case, but it’s still a step up from the past.

  • Vinny

    O thanks srry to bother u well ur eating.

  • Vinny

    O thanks srry to bother u well ur eating.

  • Jaye

    Obama knows about Gossip Girl ( i mean who doesnt? and plus hes current-events, pop culture savvy i.e. West/Swift reaction)

    a news org. mentions it on 3-19-09 (my moms bday funnily enough): http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/03/president_obama_is_aware_of_go.html

    and a clip here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VntTu7lDs

  • Jaye

    Obama knows about Gossip Girl ( i mean who doesnt? and plus hes current-events, pop culture savvy i.e. West/Swift reaction)

    a news org. mentions it on 3-19-09 (my moms bday funnily enough): http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/03/president_obama_is_aware_of_go.html

    and a clip here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_VntTu7lDs

  • BlueXCluex

    OTH is slowly building now that the new cast changes are solidifying. I can’t wait to watch The CW try to spin the numbers to make Gossip Girl look better even though OTH continues to outperform it, 90210, and Melrose.

  • Tar

    24′s fate hasnt been decided yet apparently FOX needs to decide BEFORE the season 8 premiere wheather or not it is the final season as they have two different directions for the final third of the season

  • BlueXCluex

    OTH is slowly building now that the new cast changes are solidifying. I can’t wait to watch The CW try to spin the numbers to make Gossip Girl look better even though OTH continues to outperform it, 90210, and Melrose.

  • Tar

    24′s fate hasnt been decided yet apparently FOX needs to decide BEFORE the season 8 premiere wheather or not it is the final season as they have two different directions for the final third of the season

  • Dreebee

    Good lord Trauma was awful. But it didn’t fail because of the horrible writing (though, again, good lord was it awful…), it failed because no one goes to NBC to watch dramas anymore. Taking away the 10pm slot was a disastrous decision for them — not only do they lose all promotional opportunity, but people now see NBC as the reality, sports & variety show network. I go there for football and nothing else.

  • Dreebee

    Good lord Trauma was awful. But it didn’t fail because of the horrible writing (though, again, good lord was it awful…), it failed because no one goes to NBC to watch dramas anymore. Taking away the 10pm slot was a disastrous decision for them — not only do they lose all promotional opportunity, but people now see NBC as the reality, sports & variety show network. I go there for football and nothing else.

  • Ike

    Heroes may still have a higher demo than any other NBC drama but probably not for long. I imagine SVU might rebound slightly as its viewers figure out the new timeslot. Plus SVU repeats well; serialized programs like Heroes repeat horribly.

    Also, even with budget cuts, Heroes is undoubtedly waaaaay too expensive to justify ratings like this. I’m sure there isn’t enough money in the DVDs and online streams to keep it alive. (Did anybody actually get suckered into buying season 3 on DVD?!?)

    But I will say that the writing has improved somewhat. At least for the moment. I feel pathetic for admitting that I’m still watching it though. I must really like being abused.

  • Ike

    Heroes may still have a higher demo than any other NBC drama but probably not for long. I imagine SVU might rebound slightly as its viewers figure out the new timeslot. Plus SVU repeats well; serialized programs like Heroes repeat horribly.

    Also, even with budget cuts, Heroes is undoubtedly waaaaay too expensive to justify ratings like this. I’m sure there isn’t enough money in the DVDs and online streams to keep it alive. (Did anybody actually get suckered into buying season 3 on DVD?!?)

    But I will say that the writing has improved somewhat. At least for the moment. I feel pathetic for admitting that I’m still watching it though. I must really like being abused.

  • Ike

    I forgot to add: Saying that Heroes has the highest demo of any NBC drama is like saying that a 10-year-old three-legged stray cat in Detroit is doing better than a 12-year-old two-and-a-half-legged stray cat in Beirut with one eye. And the 10-year-old stray cat weighs more, and eats more, and scratches up more stuff.

  • Ike

    I forgot to add: Saying that Heroes has the highest demo of any NBC drama is like saying that a 10-year-old three-legged stray cat in Detroit is doing better than a 12-year-old two-and-a-half-legged stray cat in Beirut with one eye. And the 10-year-old stray cat weighs more, and eats more, and scratches up more stuff.

  • Master Moron

    It doesn’t matter if Heroes started out better than last year. That always happens. The season starts out great and then falls apart as it becomes clear that the writers are making it up as they go along.

  • Master Moron

    It doesn’t matter if Heroes started out better than last year. That always happens. The season starts out great and then falls apart as it becomes clear that the writers are making it up as they go along.

  • j

    I still think it’s more the perceived quality of NBC’s shows than Jay Leno.

    The only returning drama that did consistently well last season is SVU. So the next ep of that should be very important to see if ONE of their dramas gets good ratings.

    I’

  • j

    I still think it’s more the perceived quality of NBC’s shows than Jay Leno.

    The only returning drama that did consistently well last season is SVU. So the next ep of that should be very important to see if ONE of their dramas gets good ratings.

    I’

  • Bruce

    “It doesn’t matter if Heroes started out better than last year. That always happens. The season starts out great and then falls apart as it becomes clear that the writers are making it up as they go along.”

    Master Moron:

    It seems like that because they keep firing and changing producers and show runners during the season. The show is always changing because the people responsible for the content of the show are always changing.

  • Bruce

    “It doesn’t matter if Heroes started out better than last year. That always happens. The season starts out great and then falls apart as it becomes clear that the writers are making it up as they go along.”

    Master Moron:

    It seems like that because they keep firing and changing producers and show runners during the season. The show is always changing because the people responsible for the content of the show are always changing.

  • Ike

    Master Moron has a good point. The writing will inevitably crap out. And Bruce, I don’t think you can blame any revolving door of producers for the way the show makes it up as it goes along. Isn’t Tim Kring still the showrunner? Didn’t he write the dreadful, anti-climactic first season finale, which was a true harbinger? It’s as bad as the X-Files in the “making it up as we go along” department, except that at least the X-Files had some decent stand-alone episodes to counteract the nonsensical “mythology” bullsh!t, while Heroes is 100% serialized.

  • Ike

    Master Moron has a good point. The writing will inevitably crap out. And Bruce, I don’t think you can blame any revolving door of producers for the way the show makes it up as it goes along. Isn’t Tim Kring still the showrunner? Didn’t he write the dreadful, anti-climactic first season finale, which was a true harbinger? It’s as bad as the X-Files in the “making it up as we go along” department, except that at least the X-Files had some decent stand-alone episodes to counteract the nonsensical “mythology” bullsh!t, while Heroes is 100% serialized.

  • Tar

    the CW is currently filled with promos for Gossip Girl with Tyra Banks and Hillary Duff featuring them as though they are the new stars (And Hillary Duff has at least 7 episodes this season so she sorta is a big role ) ratings will definately be over 3 million next week at least with much better demos

  • http://onetreehill-news.de.tl/ Toby

    well done! :) ) OTH is one of the most successful show on CW!

  • Tar

    the CW is currently filled with promos for Gossip Girl with Tyra Banks and Hillary Duff featuring them as though they are the new stars (And Hillary Duff has at least 7 episodes this season so she sorta is a big role ) ratings will definately be over 3 million next week at least with much better demos

  • http://onetreehill-news.de.tl Toby

    well done! :) ) OTH is one of the most successful show on CW!

  • Tar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7tPNNxfn4&feature=related
    tyra banks + Hillary Duff promo 1 (there are alot of other duff/banks promos too)

  • Tar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN7tPNNxfn4&feature=related
    tyra banks + Hillary Duff promo 1 (there are alot of other duff/banks promos too)

  • Bruce

    “And Bruce, I don’t think you can blame any revolving door of producers for the way the show makes it up as it goes along.”

    Actually, yes I can. First, Brian Fuller left for Pushing Daisies then Jeph Loeb, who was responsible for the creative direction of the show after Fuller left, was fired and then the underlings helmed the show until they brought back Fuller who left very quickly after he was brought back. These producers were also the head writers.

  • Bruce

    “And Bruce, I don’t think you can blame any revolving door of producers for the way the show makes it up as it goes along.”

    Actually, yes I can. First, Brian Fuller left for Pushing Daisies then Jeph Loeb, who was responsible for the creative direction of the show after Fuller left, was fired and then the underlings helmed the show until they brought back Fuller who left very quickly after he was brought back. These producers were also the head writers.

  • Anonymous

    People need to start watching Heroes, seriously. It will get better in time if you don’t like it. Believe me and trust this this season it will be good again. Tell all your friends and everyone to watch Heroes. It needs to go back up. I don’t think NBC will cancel Heroes unless if this season is bad, which I doubt it. Heroes is still the best show on NBC. Other than that, please I beg you if you were a fan or not a fan, now is a time to go watch Heroes.

  • Anonymous

    People need to start watching Heroes, seriously. It will get better in time if you don’t like it. Believe me and trust this this season it will be good again. Tell all your friends and everyone to watch Heroes. It needs to go back up. I don’t think NBC will cancel Heroes unless if this season is bad, which I doubt it. Heroes is still the best show on NBC. Other than that, please I beg you if you were a fan or not a fan, now is a time to go watch Heroes.

  • Spartan

    No How I Met Your Mother love, it took out dancing in the 18/49 demo. I wish Castle could get above the 10 mil mark on total viewers, I think that might solidify it pretty well. NBC is a pretty worthless network right now, the only thing that I watch on them currently is Southland – but it has already been banished to Friday, I don’t expect it to be around for that long.

  • Spartan

    No How I Met Your Mother love, it took out dancing in the 18/49 demo. I wish Castle could get above the 10 mil mark on total viewers, I think that might solidify it pretty well. NBC is a pretty worthless network right now, the only thing that I watch on them currently is Southland – but it has already been banished to Friday, I don’t expect it to be around for that long.

  • Doug (2)

    It seems like NBC spent so much time/money trying to develop Leno that they forgot to put it into their other series.

    I still don’t think that Leno was a mistake (quite the opposite, given the position that NBC is in overall), but with 10pm solved, NBC MUST put their back into 8-10pm. Leno has shown that he will hold an 18-49 audience pretty decently, but it’s got to be delivered to him. NBC bolstering 8-10pm will help Leno, which will help the affiliates in the end.

  • Doug (2)

    It seems like NBC spent so much time/money trying to develop Leno that they forgot to put it into their other series.

    I still don’t think that Leno was a mistake (quite the opposite, given the position that NBC is in overall), but with 10pm solved, NBC MUST put their back into 8-10pm. Leno has shown that he will hold an 18-49 audience pretty decently, but it’s got to be delivered to him. NBC bolstering 8-10pm will help Leno, which will help the affiliates in the end.

  • http://www.twitter.com/matt_mccartr Matt

    I hated Trauma from the moment I read its synopsis. I think they are having Trauma and Mercy duke it out to try and find the next replacement for ER. It is similar to what ABC is doing for Flash Forward (the next Lost?) however I actually enjoy that show.

    I went to the movies and got inundated with previews of Trauma… listening to Pandora and every single ad that separated a 6 song block was for Trauma. I got sick and tired of hearing about it.

    I know you may think this is stupid, but I’m happy to see NBC fail with their new shows because I’m upset they are waiting so long to bring back Chuck. Never cared for Heroes.

    At least The Office is back. I’m going to give Community a couple of more episodes before I make my decision. Never cared for Parks and Wreck and never thought it should have been renewed. 30 Rock’s premiere is only a couple of weeks away so I’ll be happier then.

    On a separate note, congratulations to the Lorre shows. Big Bang Theory is one of my all-time favorites.

  • Matt

    I hated Trauma from the moment I read its synopsis. I think they are having Trauma and Mercy duke it out to try and find the next replacement for ER. It is similar to what ABC is doing for Flash Forward (the next Lost?) however I actually enjoy that show.

    I went to the movies and got inundated with previews of Trauma… listening to Pandora and every single ad that separated a 6 song block was for Trauma. I got sick and tired of hearing about it.

    I know you may think this is stupid, but I’m happy to see NBC fail with their new shows because I’m upset they are waiting so long to bring back Chuck. Never cared for Heroes.

    At least The Office is back. I’m going to give Community a couple of more episodes before I make my decision. Never cared for Parks and Wreck and never thought it should have been renewed. 30 Rock’s premiere is only a couple of weeks away so I’ll be happier then.

    On a separate note, congratulations to the Lorre shows. Big Bang Theory is one of my all-time favorites.

  • Jaye

    i would love Castle to get 10.5-11 that way, ABC just may be tempted to give it a back 9 order… plus at least NF will be employed for a few more months until Castles numbers stay steady next Sept… *sigh*

  • dsfjr1190

    Who cares if Obama watches Gossip Girl? Judging by the ratings no one else does.

    And about the Tryra/Duff previews… well people would have to actually watch the network to see them.

    The ratings will stay the same, if not decrease as we get closer to Sweeps

  • Jaye

    i would love Castle to get 10.5-11 that way, ABC just may be tempted to give it a back 9 order… plus at least NF will be employed for a few more months until Castles numbers stay steady next Sept… *sigh*

  • dsfjr1190

    Who cares if Obama watches Gossip Girl? Judging by the ratings no one else does.

    And about the Tryra/Duff previews… well people would have to actually watch the network to see them.

    The ratings will stay the same, if not decrease as we get closer to Sweeps

  • Jim

    Heroes may be NBC’s highest-rated drama, but the incentive to keep the show on is low. It’s dropping and will continue to drop. No relaunching or rebooting or stunt-casting is going to change that. The show is expensive as well. Now that it’s in it’s 4th season it’s eligible for syndication, so after that there is no real reason to keep it on the air. At least Mercy and Trauma are fresh and still have the potential to grow…

  • Jim

    Heroes may be NBC’s highest-rated drama, but the incentive to keep the show on is low. It’s dropping and will continue to drop. No relaunching or rebooting or stunt-casting is going to change that. The show is expensive as well. Now that it’s in it’s 4th season it’s eligible for syndication, so after that there is no real reason to keep it on the air. At least Mercy and Trauma are fresh and still have the potential to grow…

  • Tar

    Hillary Duff being on Gossip Girl has been all over the press infact its rare when i see GG mentioned somewhere without Hillary Duff’s being brought up next week im sure ratings will be close to 4 million with Duff+ Banks then over 3 million after Tyra leaves till Duff’s role ends (if it does she was booked for 7 eps but i think they extended it) as some said Hillary Duff raised SVU’s ratings by 2 million when she guest starred for GG there is Tyra Banks guest starring in addition to banks plus the CW’s audience is more Tyra / Hillary compatible trust me it will be a series high for Gossip Girl next week

  • Jaye

    i’ve been going to the movies all summer but dont really remember seeing any previews of Tramua… what films were they previewed for? nonetheless, even if i had i still wouldnt watch it…

    im already weaning/ed off Greys (when i was abroad 3 yrs ago, i stayed up til 4am and later local time to download Greys but dvr’d it and didnt watch til 3-4days later ’cause i was bored), so Trauma’s a no go. same with Mercy, though i do need to up my dramas as most are on hiatus now (True Blood, Big Love, etc)

  • Amy

    Trauma…I think people is tired of so many medical Dramas . I think that even for people that love Medical shows , what they have right now is more than enough, House , Grey’s Anatomy , Private Practice…The stories in these medical shows get old soon . I think viewers can take more shows weekly with cops, lawyers , crimes…because there are more stories to explore.

  • Tar

    Hillary Duff being on Gossip Girl has been all over the press infact its rare when i see GG mentioned somewhere without Hillary Duff’s being brought up next week im sure ratings will be close to 4 million with Duff+ Banks then over 3 million after Tyra leaves till Duff’s role ends (if it does she was booked for 7 eps but i think they extended it) as some said Hillary Duff raised SVU’s ratings by 2 million when she guest starred for GG there is Tyra Banks guest starring in addition to banks plus the CW’s audience is more Tyra / Hillary compatible trust me it will be a series high for Gossip Girl next week

  • Jaye

    i’ve been going to the movies all summer but dont really remember seeing any previews of Tramua… what films were they previewed for? nonetheless, even if i had i still wouldnt watch it…

    im already weaning/ed off Greys (when i was abroad 3 yrs ago, i stayed up til 4am and later local time to download Greys but dvr’d it and didnt watch til 3-4days later ’cause i was bored), so Trauma’s a no go. same with Mercy, though i do need to up my dramas as most are on hiatus now (True Blood, Big Love, etc)

  • Amy

    Trauma…I think people is tired of so many medical Dramas . I think that even for people that love Medical shows , what they have right now is more than enough, House , Grey’s Anatomy , Private Practice…The stories in these medical shows get old soon . I think viewers can take more shows weekly with cops, lawyers , crimes…because there are more stories to explore.

  • Mark

    Nice to see that Gossip Girl’s ratings are up! I’m sad to see Heroes down because the season is a lot better than last years. Trauma was absolutely horrible! I will not continue to watch next week.

  • Mark

    Nice to see that Gossip Girl’s ratings are up! I’m sad to see Heroes down because the season is a lot better than last years. Trauma was absolutely horrible! I will not continue to watch next week.

  • http://episodeguides.blogspot.com/ makulit

    I’m glad Castle did better than the Jay Leno show. Can’t really compare it with CSI, since there’s no contest. It can never surpass an established show. I love Castle, but it seems to be missing a spark that I saw in the first season. Hope it improves. It is still the only show I watch on Mondays.

  • http://episodeguides.blogspot.com makulit

    I’m glad Castle did better than the Jay Leno show. Can’t really compare it with CSI, since there’s no contest. It can never surpass an established show. I love Castle, but it seems to be missing a spark that I saw in the first season. Hope it improves. It is still the only show I watch on Mondays.

  • JR1234

    Hey Robert:

    When do you expect Chuck to return? I think the show can you better on Weds, insteed of Mondays.

  • JR1234

    Hey Robert:

    When do you expect Chuck to return? I think the show can you better on Weds, insteed of Mondays.

  • JR1234

    Hey Robert:

    When do you expect Chuck to return? I think the show can you better on Weds, insteed of Mondays.

  • nkinsey

    Julia-

    How was Nightman Cometh? I LOVE Sunny, so I was curious how the live show would go.

  • nkinsey

    Julia-

    How was Nightman Cometh? I LOVE Sunny, so I was curious how the live show would go.

  • AO

    Heroes actually did better than I had expected.

    September 21st
    Rating/Share – 2.8/7
    Millions – 6.27

    September 28th
    Rating/Share - 2.5/6
    Millions – 5.82

  • AO

    Heroes actually did better than I had expected.

    September 21st
    Rating/Share – 2.8/7
    Millions – 6.27

    September 28th
    Rating/Share - 2.5/6
    Millions – 5.82

  • AO

    Heroes actually did better than I had expected.

    September 21st
    Rating/Share – 2.8/7
    Millions – 6.27

    September 28th
    Rating/Share - 2.5/6
    Millions – 5.82

  • AO

    I don’t watch it, but congrats to HIMYM.

    It actually went up in the 18-49 demo (though down in total number of viewers):

    September 21st
    How I Met Your Mother 3.5/9 9.22

    September 28th
    How I Met Your Mother 3.6/10 8.73

  • AO

    I don’t watch it, but congrats to HIMYM.

    It actually went up in the 18-49 demo (though down in total number of viewers):

    September 21st
    How I Met Your Mother 3.5/9 9.22

    September 28th
    How I Met Your Mother 3.6/10 8.73

  • AO

    I don’t watch it, but congrats to HIMYM.

    It actually went up in the 18-49 demo (though down in total number of viewers):

    September 21st
    How I Met Your Mother 3.5/9 9.22

    September 28th
    How I Met Your Mother 3.6/10 8.73

  • Silku

    All 3 NBC shows dropped a bit in finals, Heroes only in viewers, but Trauma both in viewers and demo.

    Heroes
    - 5.719 million viewers
    - 3.5/5 HH
    - 2.5/7 A18-49

    Trauma (61 minutes)
    - 6.675 million viewers
    - 4.2/6 HH
    - 2.2/5 A18-49

    The Jay Leno Show (59 minutes)
    - 5.519 million viewers
    - 3.6/6 HH
    - 1.7/4 A18-49

  • Silku

    All 3 NBC shows dropped a bit in finals, Heroes only in viewers, but Trauma both in viewers and demo.

    Heroes
    - 5.719 million viewers
    - 3.5/5 HH
    - 2.5/7 A18-49

    Trauma (61 minutes)
    - 6.675 million viewers
    - 4.2/6 HH
    - 2.2/5 A18-49

    The Jay Leno Show (59 minutes)
    - 5.519 million viewers
    - 3.6/6 HH
    - 1.7/4 A18-49

  • Silku

    All 3 NBC shows dropped a bit in finals, Heroes only in viewers, but Trauma both in viewers and demo.

    Heroes
    - 5.719 million viewers
    - 3.5/5 HH
    - 2.5/7 A18-49

    Trauma (61 minutes)
    - 6.675 million viewers
    - 4.2/6 HH
    - 2.2/5 A18-49

    The Jay Leno Show (59 minutes)
    - 5.519 million viewers
    - 3.6/6 HH
    - 1.7/4 A18-49

  • AO

    It looks like Gossip Girl saw a slight gain and of course Two and a Half Men and TBBT both saw gains.

    Jay Leno was amazingly solid with the exact same Rating/Share and a decrease of .03 million viewers.

  • AO

    It looks like Gossip Girl saw a slight gain and of course Two and a Half Men and TBBT both saw gains.

    Jay Leno was amazingly solid with the exact same Rating/Share and a decrease of .03 million viewers.

  • AO

    It looks like Gossip Girl saw a slight gain and of course Two and a Half Men and TBBT both saw gains.

    Jay Leno was amazingly solid with the exact same Rating/Share and a decrease of .03 million viewers.

  • cocoabeans68

    Trauma was the worst crap i have tried to watch in a long time. I only managed 25mins and went to lie to me. Trauma reminded me of an updated 70′s show. Just lame annd crappy and what a joke when you think of so many good shows that were killed off over the years. Why didn’t they pick up the unit from CBS and give us a good solid action show, or 11th hr from cbs could have been a good solid show. Yet they give us this crap. OMG!!!! someone water board me please instead of seeing that show again

  • cocoabeans68

    Trauma was the worst crap i have tried to watch in a long time. I only managed 25mins and went to lie to me. Trauma reminded me of an updated 70′s show. Just lame annd crappy and what a joke when you think of so many good shows that were killed off over the years. Why didn’t they pick up the unit from CBS and give us a good solid action show, or 11th hr from cbs could have been a good solid show. Yet they give us this crap. OMG!!!! someone water board me please instead of seeing that show again

  • cocoabeans68

    Trauma was the worst crap i have tried to watch in a long time. I only managed 25mins and went to lie to me. Trauma reminded me of an updated 70′s show. Just lame annd crappy and what a joke when you think of so many good shows that were killed off over the years. Why didn’t they pick up the unit from CBS and give us a good solid action show, or 11th hr from cbs could have been a good solid show. Yet they give us this crap. OMG!!!! someone water board me please instead of seeing that show again

  • eko5

    It looks like GG is beatin OTH prety easily!!!

    One Tree Hill
    - 2.511 million viewers
    - 1.6/2 HH
    - 1.1/3 A18-49
    - 1.6/5 A18-34
    - 2.4/7 W18-34

    Gossip Girl
    - 2.361 million viewers
    - 1.6/2 HH
    - 1.2/3 A18-49
    - 1.9/5 A18-34
    - 3.2/8 W18-34

    Good numbers in W18-34 department for GG!!! I mean its good show , so it deserves it!!! Nice numbers for DWTS and House, and great fro TBBT!!!!!!

  • eko5

    It looks like GG is beatin OTH prety easily!!!

    One Tree Hill
    - 2.511 million viewers
    - 1.6/2 HH
    - 1.1/3 A18-49
    - 1.6/5 A18-34
    - 2.4/7 W18-34

    Gossip Girl
    - 2.361 million viewers
    - 1.6/2 HH
    - 1.2/3 A18-49
    - 1.9/5 A18-34
    - 3.2/8 W18-34

    Good numbers in W18-34 department for GG!!! I mean its good show , so it deserves it!!! Nice numbers for DWTS and House, and great fro TBBT!!!!!!

  • eko5

    It looks like GG is beatin OTH prety easily!!!

    One Tree Hill
    - 2.511 million viewers
    - 1.6/2 HH
    - 1.1/3 A18-49
    - 1.6/5 A18-34
    - 2.4/7 W18-34

    Gossip Girl
    - 2.361 million viewers
    - 1.6/2 HH
    - 1.2/3 A18-49
    - 1.9/5 A18-34
    - 3.2/8 W18-34

    Good numbers in W18-34 department for GG!!! I mean its good show , so it deserves it!!! Nice numbers for DWTS and House, and great fro TBBT!!!!!!

  • bob

    ABC is probably fine with Castle, as long as it can stay there. ABC struggles enough to get Castle’s ratings, so i think castle is fine and is actually in decent shape.

  • bob

    ABC is probably fine with Castle, as long as it can stay there. ABC struggles enough to get Castle’s ratings, so i think castle is fine and is actually in decent shape.

  • bob

    ABC is probably fine with Castle, as long as it can stay there. ABC struggles enough to get Castle’s ratings, so i think castle is fine and is actually in decent shape.

  • Ike

    Bruce: True, but Tim Kring has been the showrunner the entire time, hasn’t he? He should have each season’s plot planned out in advance and then stick to it, no matter who comes and goes on his staff. He’s the head writer. Some of the other writers like Loeb were “producers” but
    “producer” is just a title for a high-level writer. But the showrunner actually runs things.

    Kring should never have been in charge of this show in the first place, at least not beyond episode 21 — the awful first season finale proves it.

  • Ike

    Bruce: True, but Tim Kring has been the showrunner the entire time, hasn’t he? He should have each season’s plot planned out in advance and then stick to it, no matter who comes and goes on his staff. He’s the head writer. Some of the other writers like Loeb were “producers” but
    “producer” is just a title for a high-level writer. But the showrunner actually runs things.

    Kring should never have been in charge of this show in the first place, at least not beyond episode 21 — the awful first season finale proves it.

  • Ike

    Bruce: True, but Tim Kring has been the showrunner the entire time, hasn’t he? He should have each season’s plot planned out in advance and then stick to it, no matter who comes and goes on his staff. He’s the head writer. Some of the other writers like Loeb were “producers” but
    “producer” is just a title for a high-level writer. But the showrunner actually runs things.

    Kring should never have been in charge of this show in the first place, at least not beyond episode 21 — the awful first season finale proves it.

  • Max452

    Actually Ike, Heroes season 3 is still selling well on dvd/blu-ray. As of 9/13 it was up to $14,640,857 in sales. Some others shows wish they could sell that much. :)

  • Max452

    Actually Ike, Heroes season 3 is still selling well on dvd/blu-ray. As of 9/13 it was up to $14,640,857 in sales. Some others shows wish they could sell that much. :)

  • Max452

    Actually Ike, Heroes season 3 is still selling well on dvd/blu-ray. As of 9/13 it was up to $14,640,857 in sales. Some others shows wish they could sell that much. :)

  • Scott

    DWTS ran about 1 – 1.5 minutes into Castle. How could that have much effect on ratings? Oh wait. We are talking about the spin ratings get. NBC is issuing press releases over how great the Jay Leno ratings are compared to his late night ratings. What!? Whatever needs to be done to make their sinking boat float.

  • Scott

    DWTS ran about 1 – 1.5 minutes into Castle. How could that have much effect on ratings? Oh wait. We are talking about the spin ratings get. NBC is issuing press releases over how great the Jay Leno ratings are compared to his late night ratings. What!? Whatever needs to be done to make their sinking boat float.

  • Scott

    DWTS ran about 1 – 1.5 minutes into Castle. How could that have much effect on ratings? Oh wait. We are talking about the spin ratings get. NBC is issuing press releases over how great the Jay Leno ratings are compared to his late night ratings. What!? Whatever needs to be done to make their sinking boat float.

  • Anonymous

    Accidentally on Purpose kept a lot of HIMYM lead-in. And when will Big Bang beat Men in demos and viewers? Next Week people?!

  • Anonymous

    Accidentally on Purpose kept a lot of HIMYM lead-in. And when will Big Bang beat Men in demos and viewers? Next Week people?!

  • Tony

    Accidentally on Purpose kept a lot of HIMYM lead-in. And when will Big Bang beat Men in demos and viewers? Next Week people?!

  • Max452

    Update, as of 9/20 Heroes sales are at 447,279 units for $16,757,954

    Got this from http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/

  • Max452

    Update, as of 9/20 Heroes sales are at 447,279 units for $16,757,954

    Got this from http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/

  • Max452

    Update, as of 9/20 Heroes sales are at 447,279 units for $16,757,954

    Got this from http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/weekly/

  • http://dollhousept.wordpress.com/ Ricardo

    Robert, could you please tell me where can I find the final numbers for Friday (I already have the ones for Dollhouse, but I would like to see other shows too) and Sunday please?

  • http://dollhousept.wordpress.com/ Ricardo

    Robert, could you please tell me where can I find the final numbers for Friday (I already have the ones for Dollhouse, but I would like to see other shows too) and Sunday please?

  • http://dollhousept.wordpress.com/ Ricardo

    Robert, could you please tell me where can I find the final numbers for Friday (I already have the ones for Dollhouse, but I would like to see other shows too) and Sunday please?

  • AO

    @Max452,

    Thanks for the link, though it did tell me I was forbidden. But I got there anyway by going to just: http://www.the-numbers.com and then clicking on “DVD Sales Chart”. So if anyone else has that problem, then that worked for me.

  • AO

    @Max452,

    Thanks for the link, though it did tell me I was forbidden. But I got there anyway by going to just: http://www.the-numbers.com and then clicking on “DVD Sales Chart”. So if anyone else has that problem, then that worked for me.

  • AO

    @Max452,

    Thanks for the link, though it did tell me I was forbidden. But I got there anyway by going to just: http://www.the-numbers.com and then clicking on “DVD Sales Chart”. So if anyone else has that problem, then that worked for me.

  • http://www.myspace.com/donmccullen Don

    If AiP continues to hold the ratings then CBS can finally chuck (not THAT Chuck) RoE, which I think they have been wanted to cancel sometime. Thank You Jenna E. But I am not part of that crowd that wants to see her stupid sitcom win.

  • http://www.myspace.com/donmccullen Don

    If AiP continues to hold the ratings then CBS can finally chuck (not THAT Chuck) RoE, which I think they have been wanted to cancel sometime. Thank You Jenna E. But I am not part of that crowd that wants to see her stupid sitcom win.

  • Alex

    I have to admit that I’m slightly disappointed by Lie To Me’s numbers out of House not because of a retention issue but because I was just expecting it to do better. Still its relatively early days and I still think the House/Lie To Me combo is a brilliant one for Fox that should work out, hopefully Lie To Me grows next week. And whilst House had the expected drop from last weeks opener the drop wasn’t as big as expected, I suspect that’s a result of last weeks break from the norm with House and curiosity on how the rest of the season will shape up. It’ll be interesting to see if we’ll see another drop next week but even if we do House will still be pulling big numbers.

    Away from Fox, CBS has got to be over the moon, moving Big Bang behind Two and a Half Men has worked out fantastically for them (can it average 5+ for the season?) and as an added bonus How I Met Your Mother is holding up well as the anchor for the night. Even Accidentally on Purpose isn’t embarrassing itself… yet. And CSI: Miami is doing big business at 10.

    Meanwhile after the joy of the season debuts last week ABC is coming back down to earth with a rougher than expected Monday night’s. Dancing is down and whilst Castle held steady from last week it isn’t setting the world alight. You have to wonder though, how much of Dancing being down is because House is up?

    And then there’s NBC where Monday nights are shaping up as you’d imagine. Heroes down, Trauma weak and Leno hitting a high-1. Its hard to know what NBC really makes of those numbers because its hard to see how they could have expected anything else. The really sad thing for NBC is that despite Heroes crashing and burning its still shaping up as one of their biggest shows so far this season and after all the bitching about Leno he’s not that far off the NBC pace is he…

  • Alex

    I have to admit that I’m slightly disappointed by Lie To Me’s numbers out of House not because of a retention issue but because I was just expecting it to do better. Still its relatively early days and I still think the House/Lie To Me combo is a brilliant one for Fox that should work out, hopefully Lie To Me grows next week. And whilst House had the expected drop from last weeks opener the drop wasn’t as big as expected, I suspect that’s a result of last weeks break from the norm with House and curiosity on how the rest of the season will shape up. It’ll be interesting to see if we’ll see another drop next week but even if we do House will still be pulling big numbers.

    Away from Fox, CBS has got to be over the moon, moving Big Bang behind Two and a Half Men has worked out fantastically for them (can it average 5+ for the season?) and as an added bonus How I Met Your Mother is holding up well as the anchor for the night. Even Accidentally on Purpose isn’t embarrassing itself… yet. And CSI: Miami is doing big business at 10.

    Meanwhile after the joy of the season debuts last week ABC is coming back down to earth with a rougher than expected Monday night’s. Dancing is down and whilst Castle held steady from last week it isn’t setting the world alight. You have to wonder though, how much of Dancing being down is because House is up?

    And then there’s NBC where Monday nights are shaping up as you’d imagine. Heroes down, Trauma weak and Leno hitting a high-1. Its hard to know what NBC really makes of those numbers because its hard to see how they could have expected anything else. The really sad thing for NBC is that despite Heroes crashing and burning its still shaping up as one of their biggest shows so far this season and after all the bitching about Leno he’s not that far off the NBC pace is he…

  • http://www.myspace.com/donmccullen Don

    If AiP continues to hold the ratings then CBS can finally chuck (not THAT Chuck) RoE, which I think they have been wanted to cancel sometime. Thank You Jenna E. But I am not part of that crowd that wants to see her stupid sitcom win.

  • Alex

    I have to admit that I’m slightly disappointed by Lie To Me’s numbers out of House not because of a retention issue but because I was just expecting it to do better. Still its relatively early days and I still think the House/Lie To Me combo is a brilliant one for Fox that should work out, hopefully Lie To Me grows next week. And whilst House had the expected drop from last weeks opener the drop wasn’t as big as expected, I suspect that’s a result of last weeks break from the norm with House and curiosity on how the rest of the season will shape up. It’ll be interesting to see if we’ll see another drop next week but even if we do House will still be pulling big numbers.

    Away from Fox, CBS has got to be over the moon, moving Big Bang behind Two and a Half Men has worked out fantastically for them (can it average 5+ for the season?) and as an added bonus How I Met Your Mother is holding up well as the anchor for the night. Even Accidentally on Purpose isn’t embarrassing itself… yet. And CSI: Miami is doing big business at 10.

    Meanwhile after the joy of the season debuts last week ABC is coming back down to earth with a rougher than expected Monday night’s. Dancing is down and whilst Castle held steady from last week it isn’t setting the world alight. You have to wonder though, how much of Dancing being down is because House is up?

    And then there’s NBC where Monday nights are shaping up as you’d imagine. Heroes down, Trauma weak and Leno hitting a high-1. Its hard to know what NBC really makes of those numbers because its hard to see how they could have expected anything else. The really sad thing for NBC is that despite Heroes crashing and burning its still shaping up as one of their biggest shows so far this season and after all the bitching about Leno he’s not that far off the NBC pace is he…

  • http://parapsihopatologija.com/ alex_j

    GG sucks, the only thing that would make me watch that crap is putting Kristen Bell on the screen.

    The acting is so bad, it’s truly amazing. Watching Ed Westwick struggling with the american accent is priceless. The ‘acting skills’ of the 2 leading actresses are summed up in the cover of the ‘rolling stones’ magazine they had together… unwatchable!

  • http://parapsihopatologija.com/ alex_j

    GG sucks, the only thing that would make me watch that crap is putting Kristen Bell on the screen.

    The acting is so bad, it’s truly amazing. Watching Ed Westwick struggling with the american accent is priceless. The ‘acting skills’ of the 2 leading actresses are summed up in the cover of the ‘rolling stones’ magazine they had together… unwatchable!

  • http://parapsihopatologija.com alex_j

    GG sucks, the only thing that would make me watch that crap is putting Kristen Bell on the screen.

    The acting is so bad, it’s truly amazing. Watching Ed Westwick struggling with the american accent is priceless. The ‘acting skills’ of the 2 leading actresses are summed up in the cover of the ‘rolling stones’ magazine they had together… unwatchable!

  • Bob Terns

    @cocoabeans68

    “Emergency!” anyone?

  • Bob Terns

    @cocoabeans68

    “Emergency!” anyone?

  • Bob Terns

    @cocoabeans68

    “Emergency!” anyone?

  • Jack

    TABLES ARE BACK!

  • Jack

    TABLES ARE BACK!

  • Jack

    TABLES ARE BACK!

  • tdot

    Hiya Emily,

    Why must you write to Bill in the form of an obnoxiously written letter?

    I find you terribly insufferable.

    Love,
    Me

  • tdot

    Hiya Emily,

    Why must you write to Bill in the form of an obnoxiously written letter?

    I find you terribly insufferable.

    Love,
    Me

  • tdot

    Hiya Emily,

    Why must you write to Bill in the form of an obnoxiously written letter?

    I find you terribly insufferable.

    Love,
    Me

  • tdot

    I miss the balance that Kutner (Kal Penn) brought to House’s team
    Why did he hafta leave the show for the White House!? :P
    Solid ratings though

  • tdot

    I miss the balance that Kutner (Kal Penn) brought to House’s team
    Why did he hafta leave the show for the White House!? :P
    Solid ratings though

  • tdot

    I miss the balance that Kutner (Kal Penn) brought to House’s team
    Why did he hafta leave the show for the White House!? :P
    Solid ratings though

  • nemo

    trauma has potential to be a hit
    the show is not on the right timeslot, it’s a 10pm show

    robert would it better if jay leno show is a syndicated show??

  • nemo

    trauma has potential to be a hit
    the show is not on the right timeslot, it’s a 10pm show

    robert would it better if jay leno show is a syndicated show??

  • nemo

    trauma has potential to be a hit
    the show is not on the right timeslot, it’s a 10pm show

    robert would it better if jay leno show is a syndicated show??

  • Brian

    Leno’s show in terms of making money is probably within or exceeding NBC’s expectations since his show for 5 days a week is cheaper to produce then any other drama they throw out there.

    The only thing that Heroes might have going for it is that it’s like an episode of Hell’s Kitchen when Chef Ramsey declares someone of the losing team the “best of the worst”, but who knows if that’ll keep them around for very long. With all new shows always failing and sometimes it seems like almost expected to fail just from watching one promo like Trauma, Mercy, Kings, soon to be Southland, etc. Heroes being better than those isn’t saying much for it.

    All of NBC’s new dramas ALWAYS have the same type of cast, aura, and general feel that people are either getting tired of, or are just so uninteresting that there’s nothing that immediately intrigues them like other shows. Without watching, having never even seen an episode of these shows, and only looking at the promos, it feels like Trauma, Mercy, Southland, etc… they feel like they’re the same show and the casting along with other shows like Kings, Merlin, Heroes, etc. where the costumes, the lighting, just the overall look of the show it just as that uninteresting NBC “feel” about them which is not a good one.

  • Brian

    Leno’s show in terms of making money is probably within or exceeding NBC’s expectations since his show for 5 days a week is cheaper to produce then any other drama they throw out there.

    The only thing that Heroes might have going for it is that it’s like an episode of Hell’s Kitchen when Chef Ramsey declares someone of the losing team the “best of the worst”, but who knows if that’ll keep them around for very long. With all new shows always failing and sometimes it seems like almost expected to fail just from watching one promo like Trauma, Mercy, Kings, soon to be Southland, etc. Heroes being better than those isn’t saying much for it.

    All of NBC’s new dramas ALWAYS have the same type of cast, aura, and general feel that people are either getting tired of, or are just so uninteresting that there’s nothing that immediately intrigues them like other shows. Without watching, having never even seen an episode of these shows, and only looking at the promos, it feels like Trauma, Mercy, Southland, etc… they feel like they’re the same show and the casting along with other shows like Kings, Merlin, Heroes, etc. where the costumes, the lighting, just the overall look of the show it just as that uninteresting NBC “feel” about them which is not a good one.

  • Brian

    Leno’s show in terms of making money is probably within or exceeding NBC’s expectations since his show for 5 days a week is cheaper to produce then any other drama they throw out there.

    The only thing that Heroes might have going for it is that it’s like an episode of Hell’s Kitchen when Chef Ramsey declares someone of the losing team the “best of the worst”, but who knows if that’ll keep them around for very long. With all new shows always failing and sometimes it seems like almost expected to fail just from watching one promo like Trauma, Mercy, Kings, soon to be Southland, etc. Heroes being better than those isn’t saying much for it.

    All of NBC’s new dramas ALWAYS have the same type of cast, aura, and general feel that people are either getting tired of, or are just so uninteresting that there’s nothing that immediately intrigues them like other shows. Without watching, having never even seen an episode of these shows, and only looking at the promos, it feels like Trauma, Mercy, Southland, etc… they feel like they’re the same show and the casting along with other shows like Kings, Merlin, Heroes, etc. where the costumes, the lighting, just the overall look of the show it just as that uninteresting NBC “feel” about them which is not a good one.

  • Kate

    I’m surprised Lie to Me didn’t do better, and also that they didn’t retain more of House’s audience. But, a couple things: 1) Look what it was up against. 2) I agree that if they can keep it around 3.0 they’ll be good. I have a feeling it’ll continue to grow, especially with the changes Shawn Ryan’s made.

    On the upside, from what I’ve heard about Trauma, Lie to Me just may get some of their refugees next week! :)

  • Kate

    I’m surprised Lie to Me didn’t do better, and also that they didn’t retain more of House’s audience. But, a couple things: 1) Look what it was up against. 2) I agree that if they can keep it around 3.0 they’ll be good. I have a feeling it’ll continue to grow, especially with the changes Shawn Ryan’s made.

    On the upside, from what I’ve heard about Trauma, Lie to Me just may get some of their refugees next week! :)

  • Craig

    Chuck! Chuck! Chuck! :-)

  • Craig

    Chuck! Chuck! Chuck! :-)

  • Craig

    Chuck! Chuck! Chuck! :-)

  • Dan

    Alex & Kate – I agree, I expected Lie to Me to do a lot better. Not as good as Dancing with the Stars or Men/Theory but atleast 8-10 million. Just to retain more of House. I guess it just depends on what people like watching. People who liked House seemed to go from it directly to Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory. How I met Your Mother is noticably down No one seems to care about Accidentally on purpose. I hope Lie to Me gets a full year, FOX could help it out again after Idol, and hold Past Life until March. I’d hope that they order more Lie to Me episodes, because without House, Bones and 24 FOX doesnt have dramas.

  • Dan

    Alex & Kate – I agree, I expected Lie to Me to do a lot better. Not as good as Dancing with the Stars or Men/Theory but atleast 8-10 million. Just to retain more of House. I guess it just depends on what people like watching. People who liked House seemed to go from it directly to Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory. How I met Your Mother is noticably down No one seems to care about Accidentally on purpose. I hope Lie to Me gets a full year, FOX could help it out again after Idol, and hold Past Life until March. I’d hope that they order more Lie to Me episodes, because without House, Bones and 24 FOX doesnt have dramas.

  • Dan

    Alex & Kate – I agree, I expected Lie to Me to do a lot better. Not as good as Dancing with the Stars or Men/Theory but atleast 8-10 million. Just to retain more of House. I guess it just depends on what people like watching. People who liked House seemed to go from it directly to Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory. How I met Your Mother is noticably down No one seems to care about Accidentally on purpose. I hope Lie to Me gets a full year, FOX could help it out again after Idol, and hold Past Life until March. I’d hope that they order more Lie to Me episodes, because without House, Bones and 24 FOX doesnt have dramas.

  • Joe R

    Just a thought:::
    FOX puts 24 on Thursday at 9pm. Competion is getting slim good chace for FOX or not

  • Joe R

    Just a thought:::
    FOX puts 24 on Thursday at 9pm. Competion is getting slim good chace for FOX or not

  • Joe R

    Just a thought:::
    FOX puts 24 on Thursday at 9pm. Competion is getting slim good chace for FOX or not

  • tdot

    FOX won’t have any real need for Lie to Me when 24 comes back

  • tdot

    FOX won’t have any real need for Lie to Me when 24 comes back

  • tdot

    FOX won’t have any real need for Lie to Me when 24 comes back

  • Dan

    Trauma did build on Heroes but I expected it to do atleast better for a premiere. Odds are both Trauma and Mercy will be replaced at least by December. Usually NBC would order a full seaason of 1 of their dramas but Trauma is scheduled to be replaced by Day One and Mercy by Parenthood so if ratings dont warrant, their is no reason for NBC to keep these two new dramas around. The only dramas that are scheduled to run year round are Law & Order, L&O SVU, and (probably) Southland. The only comedies are The Office, 30 Rock, Community (very likely) and Parks and Recreation (maybe). If Parks doesnt hold up, I could see 100 Questions replacing it and they could leave Biggest Loser for 2 hours. Here’s my guess

    Lie to Me – likely full season renewal
    Trauma – Maybe additional episodes 50/50
    Accidentally on Purpose – additional episodes likely

  • Dan

    Trauma did build on Heroes but I expected it to do atleast better for a premiere. Odds are both Trauma and Mercy will be replaced at least by December. Usually NBC would order a full seaason of 1 of their dramas but Trauma is scheduled to be replaced by Day One and Mercy by Parenthood so if ratings dont warrant, their is no reason for NBC to keep these two new dramas around. The only dramas that are scheduled to run year round are Law & Order, L&O SVU, and (probably) Southland. The only comedies are The Office, 30 Rock, Community (very likely) and Parks and Recreation (maybe). If Parks doesnt hold up, I could see 100 Questions replacing it and they could leave Biggest Loser for 2 hours. Here’s my guess

    Lie to Me – likely full season renewal
    Trauma – Maybe additional episodes 50/50
    Accidentally on Purpose – additional episodes likely

  • Dan

    Trauma did build on Heroes but I expected it to do atleast better for a premiere. Odds are both Trauma and Mercy will be replaced at least by December. Usually NBC would order a full seaason of 1 of their dramas but Trauma is scheduled to be replaced by Day One and Mercy by Parenthood so if ratings dont warrant, their is no reason for NBC to keep these two new dramas around. The only dramas that are scheduled to run year round are Law & Order, L&O SVU, and (probably) Southland. The only comedies are The Office, 30 Rock, Community (very likely) and Parks and Recreation (maybe). If Parks doesnt hold up, I could see 100 Questions replacing it and they could leave Biggest Loser for 2 hours. Here’s my guess

    Lie to Me – likely full season renewal
    Trauma – Maybe additional episodes 50/50
    Accidentally on Purpose – additional episodes likely

  • Dan

    tdot – WHile 24 will be replacing Lie to Me, its likely if more episodes are ordered that FOX would do 1 of 2 things.

    Move it in the 9:00 tuesday slot, after Idol (If they really want to save it) and when Lie finishes its run, Past Life will begin airing

    or

    Move it to fridays at 9 (replacing Dollhouse) to either burn it off or generate interest. Lie is likely to lower severely if it airs Friday but will probably get more viewers than Dollhouse

    Though retention isnt great, I still think FOX will give Lie to Me a chance, at least over Dollhouse. What does everyone think?

  • Theoacme

    cocoabeans68: Trauma is a regression of the worst million-monkey-modified script of Emergency! you could imagine – please don’t insult 70′s era shows that don’t deserve it…

    …although watching Manimal would be worse than waterboarding :D

  • Theoacme

    cocoabeans68: Trauma is a regression of the worst million-monkey-modified script of Emergency! you could imagine – please don’t insult 70′s era shows that don’t deserve it…

    …although watching Manimal would be worse than waterboarding :D

  • Dan

    tdot – WHile 24 will be replacing Lie to Me, its likely if more episodes are ordered that FOX would do 1 of 2 things.

    Move it in the 9:00 tuesday slot, after Idol (If they really want to save it) and when Lie finishes its run, Past Life will begin airing

    or

    Move it to fridays at 9 (replacing Dollhouse) to either burn it off or generate interest. Lie is likely to lower severely if it airs Friday but will probably get more viewers than Dollhouse

    Though retention isnt great, I still think FOX will give Lie to Me a chance, at least over Dollhouse. What does everyone think?

  • Theoacme

    cocoabeans68: Trauma is a regression of the worst million-monkey-modified script of Emergency! you could imagine – please don’t insult 70′s era shows that don’t deserve it…

    …although watching Manimal would be worse than waterboarding :D

  • tdot

    don’t mess with a good thing…aka don’t make the biggest loser an hour and a half and replace community with 100 questions

    i definitely think Fringe and Lie to me should swap slots
    Fringe usually does pretty well leading out of House
    and Lie to Me and Bones seems to be a good match as well
    although there may be some overlap between Lie to Me and CSI

  • tdot

    don’t mess with a good thing…aka don’t make the biggest loser an hour and a half and replace community with 100 questions

    i definitely think Fringe and Lie to me should swap slots
    Fringe usually does pretty well leading out of House
    and Lie to Me and Bones seems to be a good match as well
    although there may be some overlap between Lie to Me and CSI

  • tdot

    don’t mess with a good thing…aka don’t make the biggest loser an hour and a half and replace community with 100 questions

    i definitely think Fringe and Lie to me should swap slots
    Fringe usually does pretty well leading out of House
    and Lie to Me and Bones seems to be a good match as well
    although there may be some overlap between Lie to Me and CSI

  • http://target419.com/ Craig

    Speaking of the FOX schedule – if GLEE is getting a full season now, I wouldn’t be surprised if Human Target ends up on a different night.

  • http://target419.com/ Craig

    Speaking of the FOX schedule – if GLEE is getting a full season now, I wouldn’t be surprised if Human Target ends up on a different night.

  • http://target419.com Craig

    Speaking of the FOX schedule – if GLEE is getting a full season now, I wouldn’t be surprised if Human Target ends up on a different night.

  • Dan

    Craig – Human Target has always been scheduled to air its episodes after Idol from January-April and then the rest of Glee will air. So unless Target bombs, I dont think FOX would mess with that combo.

    Tdot- I think FOX is sticking with th Bones/Fringe combo for the rest of the year (until May) they need to give something liek that time instead of just switching it up. I think FOX would rather save Fringe than Lie to Me.

  • Dan

    Craig – Human Target has always been scheduled to air its episodes after Idol from January-April and then the rest of Glee will air. So unless Target bombs, I dont think FOX would mess with that combo.

    Tdot- I think FOX is sticking with th Bones/Fringe combo for the rest of the year (until May) they need to give something liek that time instead of just switching it up. I think FOX would rather save Fringe than Lie to Me.

  • Dan

    Craig – Human Target has always been scheduled to air its episodes after Idol from January-April and then the rest of Glee will air. So unless Target bombs, I dont think FOX would mess with that combo.

    Tdot- I think FOX is sticking with th Bones/Fringe combo for the rest of the year (until May) they need to give something liek that time instead of just switching it up. I think FOX would rather save Fringe than Lie to Me.

  • Don J

    Dan and Holly: Just wanted to give you guys props for some really insightful analysis compared to alot of the jibber jabber this blog gets. Sick and tired of all the trash talk and hate directed at the CW.

    I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all. Plus, how expensive could the show be? They shot some exteriors in NYC in season 1, but it looks to me that most of season 2 is shot in Los Angeles.

    I fully anticipate episode 19 of Heroes to be the series finale. There is absolutely no way NBC spends anymore money on reboots and stunt casting for the show. I’ll still finish it out though.

    Since 24 is taking over the Monday at 9pm timeslot come January, where does FOX put the back 9 or additional episodes should the show get them?

  • Don J

    Dan and Holly: Just wanted to give you guys props for some really insightful analysis compared to alot of the jibber jabber this blog gets. Sick and tired of all the trash talk and hate directed at the CW.

    I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all. Plus, how expensive could the show be? They shot some exteriors in NYC in season 1, but it looks to me that most of season 2 is shot in Los Angeles.

    I fully anticipate episode 19 of Heroes to be the series finale. There is absolutely no way NBC spends anymore money on reboots and stunt casting for the show. I’ll still finish it out though.

    Since 24 is taking over the Monday at 9pm timeslot come January, where does FOX put the back 9 or additional episodes should the show get them?

  • Don J

    Dan and Holly: Just wanted to give you guys props for some really insightful analysis compared to alot of the jibber jabber this blog gets. Sick and tired of all the trash talk and hate directed at the CW.

    I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all. Plus, how expensive could the show be? They shot some exteriors in NYC in season 1, but it looks to me that most of season 2 is shot in Los Angeles.

    I fully anticipate episode 19 of Heroes to be the series finale. There is absolutely no way NBC spends anymore money on reboots and stunt casting for the show. I’ll still finish it out though.

    Since 24 is taking over the Monday at 9pm timeslot come January, where does FOX put the back 9 or additional episodes should the show get them?

  • forg

    Wow for TBBT, it is so close on beating 2.5 men in viewers but amazing in demo! I hope 2.5 Men and TBBT could cross 14-15 million viewers eventually. I’m sad HIMYM is down on the viewers but at least the demo is up from 3.5 last week to 3.6 this week But I hope they hit 9 mil viewers again (or possible 10 mil). AoP is not doing terrible either.
    But I think Rules of Engagement at 8.30 would do a better performance

    Looks like the departure of two main characters didn’t affect OTH that much

  • forg

    Wow for TBBT, it is so close on beating 2.5 men in viewers but amazing in demo! I hope 2.5 Men and TBBT could cross 14-15 million viewers eventually. I’m sad HIMYM is down on the viewers but at least the demo is up from 3.5 last week to 3.6 this week But I hope they hit 9 mil viewers again (or possible 10 mil). AoP is not doing terrible either.
    But I think Rules of Engagement at 8.30 would do a better performance

    Looks like the departure of two main characters didn’t affect OTH that much

  • forg

    Wow for TBBT, it is so close on beating 2.5 men in viewers but amazing in demo! I hope 2.5 Men and TBBT could cross 14-15 million viewers eventually. I’m sad HIMYM is down on the viewers but at least the demo is up from 3.5 last week to 3.6 this week But I hope they hit 9 mil viewers again (or possible 10 mil). AoP is not doing terrible either.
    But I think Rules of Engagement at 8.30 would do a better performance

    Looks like the departure of two main characters didn’t affect OTH that much

  • Don J

    Even with CMM and HB, OTH was pulling about the same numbers.

  • Don J

    Even with CMM and HB, OTH was pulling about the same numbers.

  • Don J

    Even with CMM and HB, OTH was pulling about the same numbers.

  • http://www.myspace.com/peterdamore Eagledmasters

    Heroes is putting together a great season, folks!

    I’m glad someone posted their high DVD sales.

    It had a huge budget cut for this year (which I believe will make anyone more creative) and

    they won an EMMY for best effects last year. I think things are going well, considering all the bashing this show gets.

  • http://www.myspace.com/peterdamore Eagledmasters

    Heroes is putting together a great season, folks!

    I’m glad someone posted their high DVD sales.

    It had a huge budget cut for this year (which I believe will make anyone more creative) and

    they won an EMMY for best effects last year. I think things are going well, considering all the bashing this show gets.

  • http://www.myspace.com/peterdamore Eagledmasters

    Heroes is putting together a great season, folks!

    I’m glad someone posted their high DVD sales.

    It had a huge budget cut for this year (which I believe will make anyone more creative) and

    they won an EMMY for best effects last year. I think things are going well, considering all the bashing this show gets.

  • G

    House was crap last night. For once I am hoping the ratings fall! Now he’s some corny background character apparently? That’s how it seemed. And they keep throwing in how “caring” he’s becoming. Blehhh. I have watched since the beginning and enjoyed pretty much every season, but this one is really bad. Maybe they should just rename it Foreman/Thirteen M.D?

    I will give the next episode a try, and if it is as bad as the last ones, I am done with the show.

  • G

    House was crap last night. For once I am hoping the ratings fall! Now he’s some corny background character apparently? That’s how it seemed. And they keep throwing in how “caring” he’s becoming. Blehhh. I have watched since the beginning and enjoyed pretty much every season, but this one is really bad. Maybe they should just rename it Foreman/Thirteen M.D?

    I will give the next episode a try, and if it is as bad as the last ones, I am done with the show.

  • G

    House was crap last night. For once I am hoping the ratings fall! Now he’s some corny background character apparently? That’s how it seemed. And they keep throwing in how “caring” he’s becoming. Blehhh. I have watched since the beginning and enjoyed pretty much every season, but this one is really bad. Maybe they should just rename it Foreman/Thirteen M.D?

    I will give the next episode a try, and if it is as bad as the last ones, I am done with the show.

  • Charles

    I never knew The Big Bang Theory was this popular!

  • Charles

    I never knew The Big Bang Theory was this popular!

  • Charles

    I never knew The Big Bang Theory was this popular!

  • D W

    As for Trauma … the medicine is horrible. The characters involved would have their certifications revoked, and possibly imprisoned, for some of their actions. The plot lines impossible to suspend disbelief for, and the overall quality is shoddy.

    Is it any wonder it bombed, and will almost certainly be canceled? It is possible to have a good drama about EMS that is fairly accurate about the technical points. Trauma looks like it was fact-checked by a four-year-old with a disassociation disorder.

  • D W

    As for Trauma … the medicine is horrible. The characters involved would have their certifications revoked, and possibly imprisoned, for some of their actions. The plot lines impossible to suspend disbelief for, and the overall quality is shoddy.

    Is it any wonder it bombed, and will almost certainly be canceled? It is possible to have a good drama about EMS that is fairly accurate about the technical points. Trauma looks like it was fact-checked by a four-year-old with a disassociation disorder.

  • Cam

    Trauma – as a student who just got out of an EMS Academy – it was a great comedy. I never laughed so hard in my life.
    Aside from all the EMS bloopers, the story line, very bad.

  • Cam

    Trauma – as a student who just got out of an EMS Academy – it was a great comedy. I never laughed so hard in my life.
    Aside from all the EMS bloopers, the story line, very bad.

  • D W

    As for Trauma … the medicine is horrible. The characters involved would have their certifications revoked, and possibly imprisoned, for some of their actions. The plot lines impossible to suspend disbelief for, and the overall quality is shoddy.

    Is it any wonder it bombed, and will almost certainly be canceled? It is possible to have a good drama about EMS that is fairly accurate about the technical points. Trauma looks like it was fact-checked by a four-year-old with a disassociation disorder.

  • Cam

    Trauma – as a student who just got out of an EMS Academy – it was a great comedy. I never laughed so hard in my life.
    Aside from all the EMS bloopers, the story line, very bad.

  • Dee

    Don J: Just for the record, the CW has earned every hateful and derisive comment it receives, and then some. It is a shallow monument to age bigotry and a near-complete waste of the public airwaves. Les Moonves should be ashamed of himself for letting Lady Dawn run this operation into the ground. After her performance at UPN, how could he possibly be surprised at this result. Change needs to happen now. That is, if it isn’t already too late.

  • Dee

    Don J: Just for the record, the CW has earned every hateful and derisive comment it receives, and then some. It is a shallow monument to age bigotry and a near-complete waste of the public airwaves. Les Moonves should be ashamed of himself for letting Lady Dawn run this operation into the ground. After her performance at UPN, how could he possibly be surprised at this result. Change needs to happen now. That is, if it isn’t already too late.

  • daniel l

    i cant believe AOP stayed up
    it wasnt funny at all and really boring

  • daniel l

    i cant believe AOP stayed up
    it wasnt funny at all and really boring

  • daniel l

    i cant believe AOP stayed up
    it wasnt funny at all and really boring

  • banni

    Hi everyone! Can anyone tell me if Monday Night Football and WWE have been around for some time? I’m just curiuos if the big ratings drop of CSI: Miami was caused by these cable shows. Thanks in advance!

  • banni

    Hi everyone! Can anyone tell me if Monday Night Football and WWE have been around for some time? I’m just curiuos if the big ratings drop of CSI: Miami was caused by these cable shows. Thanks in advance!

  • banni

    Hi everyone! Can anyone tell me if Monday Night Football and WWE have been around for some time? I’m just curiuos if the big ratings drop of CSI: Miami was caused by these cable shows. Thanks in advance!

  • Anonymous

    Monday Night Football has been around since the ’70s. It just moved from ABC to ESPN in 2006. No idea about WWE.

  • Anonymous

    Monday Night Football has been around since the ’70s. It just moved from ABC to ESPN in 2006. No idea about WWE.

  • Holly

    Monday Night Football has been around since the ’70s. It just moved from ABC to ESPN in 2006. No idea about WWE.

  • Anonymous

    @Don J

    I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all.

    A 2.9 would be great. Castle got a 2.2…not so great. Enough to keep its head above water? Maybe. It really depends on what happens with Forgotten and Eastwick.

  • Anonymous

    @Don J

    I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all.

    A 2.9 would be great. Castle got a 2.2…not so great. Enough to keep its head above water? Maybe. It really depends on what happens with Forgotten and Eastwick.

  • Holly

    @Don J

    I don’t understand how Castle could be in danger. I mean it’s never going to win the Monday at 10pm timeslot, so 2nd is very good and I think a 2.9 in the 18-49 demo isn’t bad at all.

    A 2.9 would be great. Castle got a 2.2…not so great. Enough to keep its head above water? Maybe. It really depends on what happens with Forgotten and Eastwick.

  • banni

    The show premiered with 17 million viewers last year and this year’s was 14 million viewers. Or maybe the quality of the show decreased if it was already against those cable shows before. Anyone? Thanks.

  • banni

    The show premiered with 17 million viewers last year and this year’s was 14 million viewers. Or maybe the quality of the show decreased if it was already against those cable shows before. Anyone? Thanks.

  • banni

    The show premiered with 17 million viewers last year and this year’s was 14 million viewers. Or maybe the quality of the show decreased if it was already against those cable shows before. Anyone? Thanks.

  • tvmegafan

    I feel really sad for heroes, The Ep. was the best I;ve seen is a very long time, this season I know is gonna be amazing too bad people, run whenever they get a glimpse of a rough spot. I on the other hand am extremely patient and loyal so I will still with heroes til the end. I really don;t understand the love for the big bang, and 2 1/2 men, I think both the shows are boring and not funny at all, How I met your mother on the other hand is Super funny, I guess I just have a very different view than most of america seeing as how, All the shows I like get cancelled and have bad ratings. but Im fine with that cause I know I like good quality stuff and I don’t settle for cheap actors and crappy writing.

  • tvmegafan

    I feel really sad for heroes, The Ep. was the best I;ve seen is a very long time, this season I know is gonna be amazing too bad people, run whenever they get a glimpse of a rough spot. I on the other hand am extremely patient and loyal so I will still with heroes til the end. I really don;t understand the love for the big bang, and 2 1/2 men, I think both the shows are boring and not funny at all, How I met your mother on the other hand is Super funny, I guess I just have a very different view than most of america seeing as how, All the shows I like get cancelled and have bad ratings. but Im fine with that cause I know I like good quality stuff and I don’t settle for cheap actors and crappy writing.

  • tvmegafan

    I feel really sad for heroes, The Ep. was the best I;ve seen is a very long time, this season I know is gonna be amazing too bad people, run whenever they get a glimpse of a rough spot. I on the other hand am extremely patient and loyal so I will still with heroes til the end. I really don;t understand the love for the big bang, and 2 1/2 men, I think both the shows are boring and not funny at all, How I met your mother on the other hand is Super funny, I guess I just have a very different view than most of america seeing as how, All the shows I like get cancelled and have bad ratings. but Im fine with that cause I know I like good quality stuff and I don’t settle for cheap actors and crappy writing.

  • Dan

    CSI Miami didnt drop too much, just a little. I really dont think any series caused this, no monday night 10pm series was ever a threat to Miami.

    Don J – If you were referring to Lie to Me when you were saying the back 9, FOX doesnt know yet. House 24 will definitely still air mondays in January but its likely that if Lie gets a full season it will be moved to air after Idol on Tuesdays until Past Life airs, or replace Dollhouse at 9 fridays. Those are the only two slots available as of FOX’s current planned midseason sched.

    Holly – I only think Castle is safe if its ratings are consistent. With a likely low lead in and competition from CSI NY Eastwick willbe gone by December. The Forgotten has a Dancing lead in and freshman The Good Wife as competition so Forgotten has a 50/50 chance of making it for a full season. If you noticed last year ABC got rid of all of their 10pm series Mon-Wed (Boston Legal, Eli Stone, Dirty Sexy Money). My guess is that Castle will get a full year, but remember ABC has midseason dramas (Happy Town, The Deep End, Copper). So Eastwick and The Forgotten can easily be replaced if ABC isnt happy with how they perform.

  • Dan

    CSI Miami didnt drop too much, just a little. I really dont think any series caused this, no monday night 10pm series was ever a threat to Miami.

    Don J – If you were referring to Lie to Me when you were saying the back 9, FOX doesnt know yet. House 24 will definitely still air mondays in January but its likely that if Lie gets a full season it will be moved to air after Idol on Tuesdays until Past Life airs, or replace Dollhouse at 9 fridays. Those are the only two slots available as of FOX’s current planned midseason sched.

    Holly – I only think Castle is safe if its ratings are consistent. With a likely low lead in and competition from CSI NY Eastwick willbe gone by December. The Forgotten has a Dancing lead in and freshman The Good Wife as competition so Forgotten has a 50/50 chance of making it for a full season. If you noticed last year ABC got rid of all of their 10pm series Mon-Wed (Boston Legal, Eli Stone, Dirty Sexy Money). My guess is that Castle will get a full year, but remember ABC has midseason dramas (Happy Town, The Deep End, Copper). So Eastwick and The Forgotten can easily be replaced if ABC isnt happy with how they perform.

  • Dan

    CSI Miami didnt drop too much, just a little. I really dont think any series caused this, no monday night 10pm series was ever a threat to Miami.

    Don J – If you were referring to Lie to Me when you were saying the back 9, FOX doesnt know yet. House 24 will definitely still air mondays in January but its likely that if Lie gets a full season it will be moved to air after Idol on Tuesdays until Past Life airs, or replace Dollhouse at 9 fridays. Those are the only two slots available as of FOX’s current planned midseason sched.

    Holly – I only think Castle is safe if its ratings are consistent. With a likely low lead in and competition from CSI NY Eastwick willbe gone by December. The Forgotten has a Dancing lead in and freshman The Good Wife as competition so Forgotten has a 50/50 chance of making it for a full season. If you noticed last year ABC got rid of all of their 10pm series Mon-Wed (Boston Legal, Eli Stone, Dirty Sexy Money). My guess is that Castle will get a full year, but remember ABC has midseason dramas (Happy Town, The Deep End, Copper). So Eastwick and The Forgotten can easily be replaced if ABC isnt happy with how they perform.

  • Anonymous

    Don, My point is that if Castle is ABC’s lowest rated 10 pm show, it’s in trouble. If it isn’t, it’s fairly safe. So, since Castle is likely to stay fairly steady in the ratings, its fate depends heavily on whether (or how much) Forgotten and Eastwick drop. If I were a betting woman, I’d bet that they’ll drop and Castle will be safe, but I could be wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Don, My point is that if Castle is ABC’s lowest rated 10 pm show, it’s in trouble. If it isn’t, it’s fairly safe. So, since Castle is likely to stay fairly steady in the ratings, its fate depends heavily on whether (or how much) Forgotten and Eastwick drop. If I were a betting woman, I’d bet that they’ll drop and Castle will be safe, but I could be wrong.

  • Holly

    Don, My point is that if Castle is ABC’s lowest rated 10 pm show, it’s in trouble. If it isn’t, it’s fairly safe. So, since Castle is likely to stay fairly steady in the ratings, its fate depends heavily on whether (or how much) Forgotten and Eastwick drop. If I were a betting woman, I’d bet that they’ll drop and Castle will be safe, but I could be wrong.

  • Don J

    Yes I was referring to Lie to Me’s back 9. Thanks Dan.

    Typo on my earlier post Holly. Yeah a 2.3 isn’t that great for a 1 hour drama. I guess it’s still a wait and see basis for it.

    Dee: The CW’s target audience from everything that I understand about the network is young women and men in their 20′s. I think they have made that pefectly clear with the type of shows they greenlight like 90210, Gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries and Melrose that they are seeking younger viewers, which are attractive to advertisers. I personally don’t have any problem with the type of shows they create and audience they target let alone think they are age bigots.

  • Don J

    Yes I was referring to Lie to Me’s back 9. Thanks Dan.

    Typo on my earlier post Holly. Yeah a 2.3 isn’t that great for a 1 hour drama. I guess it’s still a wait and see basis for it.

    Dee: The CW’s target audience from everything that I understand about the network is young women and men in their 20′s. I think they have made that pefectly clear with the type of shows they greenlight like 90210, Gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries and Melrose that they are seeking younger viewers, which are attractive to advertisers. I personally don’t have any problem with the type of shows they create and audience they target let alone think they are age bigots.

  • Don J

    Yes I was referring to Lie to Me’s back 9. Thanks Dan.

    Typo on my earlier post Holly. Yeah a 2.3 isn’t that great for a 1 hour drama. I guess it’s still a wait and see basis for it.

    Dee: The CW’s target audience from everything that I understand about the network is young women and men in their 20′s. I think they have made that pefectly clear with the type of shows they greenlight like 90210, Gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries and Melrose that they are seeking younger viewers, which are attractive to advertisers. I personally don’t have any problem with the type of shows they create and audience they target let alone think they are age bigots.

  • tdot

    i would think Fringe is here to stay, even though it is probably one of Fox’s more expensive dramas
    Fox did give it a good running start by putting it post-House and post-American Idol
    although throwing it under the bus on Thursday nights probably doesn’t help much
    - it’s also really not very compatible with Bones

  • tdot

    i would think Fringe is here to stay, even though it is probably one of Fox’s more expensive dramas
    Fox did give it a good running start by putting it post-House and post-American Idol
    although throwing it under the bus on Thursday nights probably doesn’t help much
    - it’s also really not very compatible with Bones

  • tdot

    i would think Fringe is here to stay, even though it is probably one of Fox’s more expensive dramas
    Fox did give it a good running start by putting it post-House and post-American Idol
    although throwing it under the bus on Thursday nights probably doesn’t help much
    - it’s also really not very compatible with Bones

  • Dan

    Holly – I think over the course of the next month, Eastwick and The Forgotten will suffer more of a decline than Castle. Eastwick doesnt have a great lead in so a heavy drop is almost guaranteed. Eastwick got 8.53 out of an 11.44 lead in. While an improvement over Dirty Sexy Money (7.02) Think about how much lower Eastwick’ number will be, when Modern Family and Cougar Town arent airing out of Dancing. All of ABC’s 10pm dramas are just a chain of retention. The Forgotten may or may not go down. It premiered out of Dancing with 9.53 if it holds up well against The Good Wife it may get renewed.

    tdot – Fringe is here to stay. I dont expect FOX to move it out of the 9pm slot. And I’d think it were more compatible with Bones than any other of FOX”s series.

  • Dan

    Holly – I think over the course of the next month, Eastwick and The Forgotten will suffer more of a decline than Castle. Eastwick doesnt have a great lead in so a heavy drop is almost guaranteed. Eastwick got 8.53 out of an 11.44 lead in. While an improvement over Dirty Sexy Money (7.02) Think about how much lower Eastwick’ number will be, when Modern Family and Cougar Town arent airing out of Dancing. All of ABC’s 10pm dramas are just a chain of retention. The Forgotten may or may not go down. It premiered out of Dancing with 9.53 if it holds up well against The Good Wife it may get renewed.

    tdot – Fringe is here to stay. I dont expect FOX to move it out of the 9pm slot. And I’d think it were more compatible with Bones than any other of FOX”s series.

  • Dan

    Holly – I think over the course of the next month, Eastwick and The Forgotten will suffer more of a decline than Castle. Eastwick doesnt have a great lead in so a heavy drop is almost guaranteed. Eastwick got 8.53 out of an 11.44 lead in. While an improvement over Dirty Sexy Money (7.02) Think about how much lower Eastwick’ number will be, when Modern Family and Cougar Town arent airing out of Dancing. All of ABC’s 10pm dramas are just a chain of retention. The Forgotten may or may not go down. It premiered out of Dancing with 9.53 if it holds up well against The Good Wife it may get renewed.

    tdot – Fringe is here to stay. I dont expect FOX to move it out of the 9pm slot. And I’d think it were more compatible with Bones than any other of FOX”s series.

  • Kyle

    I’m glad Accidentally on Purpose is doing well– it’s not a great show but Jenna Elfman and Ashley Jensen deserve at least a full season

  • Kyle

    I’m glad Accidentally on Purpose is doing well– it’s not a great show but Jenna Elfman and Ashley Jensen deserve at least a full season

  • Kyle

    I’m glad Accidentally on Purpose is doing well– it’s not a great show but Jenna Elfman and Ashley Jensen deserve at least a full season

  • Frankie R

    I visit this site everyday, never comment, but I think we all know that CBS is in great shape. If AOP holds up they can’t go wrong.

    FOX is also OK, lie to me has to do better, we all know that.

    ABC needs help! After this cycle DWTS might bomb, and if that happens what is the launch for anything? I hope Modern family continues well on Wed because it will be important.

    Jay Leno is not NBC’s problem, it is so much more. Will they be VH1 in 5 years or what? My whole life they were the network. period. What happened? I’m 32 and I watch more CBS than anything. When I was a kid that was what old people watched…..and I’m not that old…yet!

    NBC is in a position where they can take chances, give us something new, over the top,risque, out of this world!!!!! Get people talking about something other than Leno, if that was the strategy, it’s not even October and nobody’s talking anymore.

  • Frankie R

    I visit this site everyday, never comment, but I think we all know that CBS is in great shape. If AOP holds up they can’t go wrong.

    FOX is also OK, lie to me has to do better, we all know that.

    ABC needs help! After this cycle DWTS might bomb, and if that happens what is the launch for anything? I hope Modern family continues well on Wed because it will be important.

    Jay Leno is not NBC’s problem, it is so much more. Will they be VH1 in 5 years or what? My whole life they were the network. period. What happened? I’m 32 and I watch more CBS than anything. When I was a kid that was what old people watched…..and I’m not that old…yet!

    NBC is in a position where they can take chances, give us something new, over the top,risque, out of this world!!!!! Get people talking about something other than Leno, if that was the strategy, it’s not even October and nobody’s talking anymore.

  • Dan

    Frankie R – NBC has been taking a lot of chances, but if some of their series dont do better, they may need to think up some new strategies.

    I hope Lie to Me does better though, its retention wasnt great, but the show itself isnt bad.

  • Dan

    Frankie R – NBC has been taking a lot of chances, but if some of their series dont do better, they may need to think up some new strategies.

    I hope Lie to Me does better though, its retention wasnt great, but the show itself isnt bad.

  • Mumbo

    I’m not a retentionista but really, Lie to Me should be doing a lot better than that with such a powerful and compatible lead-in.

    Meanwhile the Big Bang Theory is becoming a monster.

  • Mumbo

    I’m not a retentionista but really, Lie to Me should be doing a lot better than that with such a powerful and compatible lead-in.

    Meanwhile the Big Bang Theory is becoming a monster.

  • Joshua K.

    I hate getting hit over the head repeatedly by “watch this show!” promos. Trauma promos aired so frequently, I was feeling concussed.

    I wish old Heroes viewers would come back into the fold. The three hours of Heroes that have aired so far have been spectacular. Season 1 quality. Oh well. I have little hope, but at least Heroes appears to be ending on a good note. LOL

  • Joshua K.

    I hate getting hit over the head repeatedly by “watch this show!” promos. Trauma promos aired so frequently, I was feeling concussed.

    I wish old Heroes viewers would come back into the fold. The three hours of Heroes that have aired so far have been spectacular. Season 1 quality. Oh well. I have little hope, but at least Heroes appears to be ending on a good note. LOL

  • Joshua K.

    I hate getting hit over the head repeatedly by “watch this show!” promos. Trauma promos aired so frequently, I was feeling concussed.

    I wish old Heroes viewers would come back into the fold. The three hours of Heroes that have aired so far have been spectacular. Season 1 quality. Oh well. I have little hope, but at least Heroes appears to be ending on a good note. LOL

  • Carol

    I’m not watching Heroes this season. I loath the Sylar character as well as the actor. Too bad they kept him after season 1 and twisted the entire show around to accomodate him.

  • Carol

    I’m not watching Heroes this season. I loath the Sylar character as well as the actor. Too bad they kept him after season 1 and twisted the entire show around to accomodate him.

  • Carol

    I’m not watching Heroes this season. I loath the Sylar character as well as the actor. Too bad they kept him after season 1 and twisted the entire show around to accomodate him.

  • Matthew

    Heroes is seriously on the way out…Just wait till the demo drops to 2.0.

  • Matthew

    Heroes is seriously on the way out…Just wait till the demo drops to 2.0.

  • Matthew

    Heroes is seriously on the way out…Just wait till the demo drops to 2.0.

  • Kathy

    I LOVE “The Forgotten”. Finally a show that I like. Christian Slater is great in this. I love this show!

  • Kathy

    I LOVE “The Forgotten”. Finally a show that I like. Christian Slater is great in this. I love this show!

  • Kathy

    I LOVE “The Forgotten”. Finally a show that I like. Christian Slater is great in this. I love this show!

  • Cody

    Heroes was great monday I hope it improves.

  • Cody

    Heroes was great monday I hope it improves.

  • Cody

    Heroes was great monday I hope it improves.

  • Michael

    Joshua, I agree completely. These first few episodes of this season of Heroes have been excellent! Miles better than season 3. $5 says that the season during which they finally get back on track is the season it is cancelled. That would be a shame.

  • Michael

    Joshua, I agree completely. These first few episodes of this season of Heroes have been excellent! Miles better than season 3. $5 says that the season during which they finally get back on track is the season it is cancelled. That would be a shame.

  • Michael

    Joshua, I agree completely. These first few episodes of this season of Heroes have been excellent! Miles better than season 3. $5 says that the season during which they finally get back on track is the season it is cancelled. That would be a shame.

  • Michael

    P.S. Sylar is great in this season so far. He is quite funny in my opinion.

  • Michael

    P.S. Sylar is great in this season so far. He is quite funny in my opinion.

  • B

    Poor Lie to me*, lost half of House’s audience. Surprising, since both shows have a similar premise. Has FOX been advertising the show? I’ve seen double promos with House, but never a standalone one just for Ltm*.

    Pulling for Fringe on Thursday. FOX is getting some really powerful stuff, hate to see more “Arrested Developments” or “Fireflies” occur.

  • B

    Poor Lie to me*, lost half of House’s audience. Surprising, since both shows have a similar premise. Has FOX been advertising the show? I’ve seen double promos with House, but never a standalone one just for Ltm*.

    Pulling for Fringe on Thursday. FOX is getting some really powerful stuff, hate to see more “Arrested Developments” or “Fireflies” occur.

  • B

    Poor Lie to me*, lost half of House’s audience. Surprising, since both shows have a similar premise. Has FOX been advertising the show? I’ve seen double promos with House, but never a standalone one just for Ltm*.

    Pulling for Fringe on Thursday. FOX is getting some really powerful stuff, hate to see more “Arrested Developments” or “Fireflies” occur.

  • Brendan

    Trauma was too slow…like during the action sequences the trauma team just walked to the danger..there was no exciting music or anything that made you feel suspensful. Now Heroes needs to change back to how it was the 1st season..the action sequences aren’t very good anymore. EVERYONE LOOK ON YOUR GUIDE FOR THURSDAYS…PARKS AND RECREATION ISNT ON ANYMORE…IT JUST SHOWS UP AS ADS ON THURSDAYS NOW…its cancelled YAY!! they just might bring My Name is Earl back

  • Brendan

    Trauma was too slow…like during the action sequences the trauma team just walked to the danger..there was no exciting music or anything that made you feel suspensful. Now Heroes needs to change back to how it was the 1st season..the action sequences aren’t very good anymore. EVERYONE LOOK ON YOUR GUIDE FOR THURSDAYS…PARKS AND RECREATION ISNT ON ANYMORE…IT JUST SHOWS UP AS ADS ON THURSDAYS NOW…its cancelled YAY!! they just might bring My Name is Earl back

  • Brendan

    Trauma was too slow…like during the action sequences the trauma team just walked to the danger..there was no exciting music or anything that made you feel suspensful. Now Heroes needs to change back to how it was the 1st season..the action sequences aren’t very good anymore. EVERYONE LOOK ON YOUR GUIDE FOR THURSDAYS…PARKS AND RECREATION ISNT ON ANYMORE…IT JUST SHOWS UP AS ADS ON THURSDAYS NOW…its cancelled YAY!! they just might bring My Name is Earl back

  • Julia

    Brendan, are you sure you’re not looking at Thursday at 8:30 am or something? Parks and Rec is not canceled, yet. Also, canceling it will not bring Earl back.

  • Julia

    Brendan, are you sure you’re not looking at Thursday at 8:30 am or something? Parks and Rec is not canceled, yet. Also, canceling it will not bring Earl back.

  • http://remotecontrolsyou.com Julia

    Brendan, are you sure you’re not looking at Thursday at 8:30 am or something? Parks and Rec is not canceled, yet. Also, canceling it will not bring Earl back.

  • Brendan

    i dony know bout u but on mine it doesny have parks on it…i hope its cancelled…terrible show

  • Brendan

    i dony know bout u but on mine it doesny have parks on it…i hope its cancelled…terrible show

  • Brendan

    i dony know bout u but on mine it doesny have parks on it…i hope its cancelled…terrible show

  • Emily

    I feel for Lie to Me…if it already lost a lot of the House lead in because I have a feeling House may lose a lot of audience on its own based on certain avenues they will be exploring/exhausting again. I have a feeling many people have lost their patience. Perhaps will find a movie on cable that would take both slots.

  • Emily

    I feel for Lie to Me…if it already lost a lot of the House lead in because I have a feeling House may lose a lot of audience on its own based on certain avenues they will be exploring/exhausting again. I have a feeling many people have lost their patience. Perhaps will find a movie on cable that would take both slots.

  • Emily

    I feel for Lie to Me…if it already lost a lot of the House lead in because I have a feeling House may lose a lot of audience on its own based on certain avenues they will be exploring/exhausting again. I have a feeling many people have lost their patience. Perhaps will find a movie on cable that would take both slots.

  • http://www.twitter.com/WingsStef WingsStef

    Hmm people that gave up on Heroes can’t be called diehards. The real diehards are still here. I mean the rating isn’t at 0. This season is definitely better than most of last season. And the diehards still around should remember season 1 wasn’t all flash until a few episodes in but was still very good. This isn’t season one, but as a likely last season, it’s pretty good.

  • http://www.twitter.com/WingsStef WingsStef

    Hmm people that gave up on Heroes can’t be called diehards. The real diehards are still here. I mean the rating isn’t at 0. This season is definitely better than most of last season. And the diehards still around should remember season 1 wasn’t all flash until a few episodes in but was still very good. This isn’t season one, but as a likely last season, it’s pretty good.

  • http://www.twitter.com/WingsStef WingsStef

    Hmm people that gave up on Heroes can’t be called diehards. The real diehards are still here. I mean the rating isn’t at 0. This season is definitely better than most of last season. And the diehards still around should remember season 1 wasn’t all flash until a few episodes in but was still very good. This isn’t season one, but as a likely last season, it’s pretty good.

  • eb

    trauma sucks, should be cancelled

    bring back CHUCK at least it is different from all these medical dramas

  • eb

    trauma sucks, should be cancelled

    bring back CHUCK at least it is different from all these medical dramas

  • eb

    trauma sucks, should be cancelled

    bring back CHUCK at least it is different from all these medical dramas

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