Due to the nature of live sports programming the ratings for NBC (Sunday Night Football) are approximate and subject to significant revisions in the final numbers. See below for more information on these Fast Affiliate Ratings.
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| Adults 18-49: Rating/Share | 5.3/13 | 4.8/12 | 3.4/9 | 2.3/6 | 0.8/2 |
| Adults 18-34: Rating/Share | 4.7/13 | 5.3/13 | 2.7/7 | 1.4/4 | 0.8/2 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 13.198 | 10.712 | 10.891 | 10.438 | 2.244 |
NBC’s Sunday Night Football delivered the ratings win to NBC, but showing surprising strength, Fox’s animation lineup was close behind. CBS’ Three Rivers debuted with a DOA 2.0 adults 18-49 rating.
ABC, NBC and Fox were all up vs. last Sunday night, only CBS, without a football overrun and saddled by the Three Rivers premiere was down. Sunday has turned out to be CBS’ biggest problem this fall by a longshot.
CBS’ Three Rivers premiere limped in with a “cancel me now” 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. It’s a goner. Let the fan lamentations begin!
The season premiere of America’s Funniest Home Videos could manage only 0.1 adults 18-49 ratings points more than a repeat of Extreme Makeover’s repeat last Sunday at 7pm. And while the TV media loves to tout 60 Minutes staying power/strength, without a football overrun it sank to a very mortal 2.3 rating.
Even though it was a blow-out, the Sunday Night Football game was up in the 18-49 in every half hour vs. last Sunday. Scheduling the Super Bowl champions = ratings bonus.
Fox’s animation line up did quite well, challenging NBC for the 18-49 demo and winning the 18-34 demo outright. The Simpsons was up a tenth of a ratings point vs. its premiere last week, and the rest of the animation line up settled down a few tenths from their premieres.
The epitaph for Desperate Housewives may have been a bit premature, it tallied a 4.9 18-49 demo rating up 0.3 ratings points in the 18-49 demo from last week, and Brothers & Sisters was up 0.2 points.
CBS has conveniently loaded up its biggest losers on Sunday night, although Cold Case fell a tenth of a ratings point down to just (my bad, I looked at the timeslot which had some Amazing Race time in it) from last Sunday was up from its rating last week to a 2.2 18-49 demo rating. As far as I know it aired at its regular timeslot everywhere, what will its fans blame this week? (Ah, of course, the Three Rivers lead in!)
No football overrun seems to have hurt The Amazing Race as well as it fell 0.6 ratings points from last week to a 2.8 adults 18-49 demo rating.
There may have been football overruns on Fox and CBS, I will include that information when I get it.
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating | 18-49 Share | Viewers Live+SD (million) |
| 7:00 | FOX | NFL Football | 7.6 | 22 | 19.340 |
| NBC | Football Night In America | 2.9 | 8 | 7.396 | |
| CBS | 60 Minutes | 2.3 | 7 | 12.948 | |
| ABC | America’s Funniest Home Videos (premiere) | 2.2 | 6 | 7.983 | |
| 7:30 | FOX | The OT | 4.2 | 12 | 10.191 |
| 8:00 | NBC | Football Night/SNF | 5.2 | 14 | 13.830 |
| FOX | The Simpsons | 4.3 | 11 | 9.317 | |
| ABC | Extreme Makeover: Home Edition | 3.4 | 8 | 11.702 | |
| CBS | The Amazing Race | 2.8 | 7 | 9.949 | |
| 8:30 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Chargers v. Steelers | 6.5 | 16 | 17.073 |
| FOX | The Cleveland Show | 4.2 | 10 | 8.700 | |
| 9:00 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Chargers v. Steelers | 6.5 | 15 | 16.375 |
| ABC | Desperate Housewives | 4.9 | 12 | 14.267 | |
| FOX | Family Guy | 4.9 | 11 | 9.668 | |
| CBS | Three Rivers (series premiere) | 2.0 | 5 | 9.171 | |
| 9:30 | FOX | American Dad | 3.5 | 8 | 7.057 |
| 10:00 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Chargers v. Steelers | 5.8 | 15 | 13.570 |
| ABC | Brothers & Sisters | 3.2 | 8 | 9.612 | |
| CBS | Cold Case | 2.2 | 5 | 9.686 |
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Time Shifted Viewing – Program ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.
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Credibility of Moonlight fans claiming they would NEVER WATCH CBS AGAIN ends when they begin writing about how great “Three Rivers” is in 3…2…1…
You’ve put NBC on the scoreboard twice.
I knew Cleveland would fall, but FOX held up well overall.
Well that’s not a good start for three rivers, I found the pilot entertaining I hope it picks up.
Also, you are missing the The Amazing Race ratings.
Watched three rivers too many plots at once very very confusing..
YES! DH WENT UP IN VIEWERS!
Ron, 2.8/7 and 9.95 million for The Amazing Race….
I just watched my tape of Three Rivers. Blah! It was mediocre in every respect. I’ll stick with Brothers & Sisters (which was really good last night) in that time period.
Mark, I too found THREE RIVERS entertaining, although I noted we didn’t get the pilot, but (as predicted) episode 2. But I thought it must have been infinitely better than the original pilot that was so derided by critics, and wonder if, as the Hollywood Reporter noted this morning, the steady barrage of bad critical press drove viewers away from even SAMPLING it.
Harold, that implies they ever had any credibility to begin with.
Interesting to see that Cold Case went up a bit. Not much, but a bit. And that’s despite having a better lead in last week.
Cleveland Show held pretty nicely, but it’s no longer beating The Simpsons. I guess I was one of the few who watched the premiere and thought it was by far the most boring show I’d watched since Sit Down, Shut Up premiered.
Nice to see the weekly improvement on the ABC lineup. Both Desperate Housewives and Brothers & Sisters improved in demos and in total viewers. Mostly thanks to the cliffhanger endings of their premiere. Smart timing, the premieres always get attention, the second episode is the real question.
Interesting to see Desperate Housewives bounce back from last week – but “Brothers & Sisters” seems to be flatlining….if it didn’t have a plush, post DH slot, the show would be dead.
So glad DH ratings went up two points in the demo–Sunday’s episode was fantastic.
Simpsons was up from its premiere! I’m pretty sure the Fox average is wrong. 4.8 is much too high.
@Lisa, Three Rivers and Brothers & Sisters don’t share a timeslot. 3R is on at 9, B&S is on at 10.
Actually, TR and CC are about proportional in demo and viewers. Since CBS usually has an older audience, I wonder how they’d react if, next week, TR did 1.9 and 10 million?
Yaaaay!! Desperate Housewives went up by a million!! I guess that is proof that ABC doesn’t advertise Housewives as much as it should.
Extreme home makeover??
NBC did great did with football and both DH and Brothers and Sisters were up from last week, Three Rivers doomed IMO and Cold Case built on it which must be a relief for CBS. Animation Domination continues to perform well but it must be a worry that The Cleveland Show is lower than Simpsons and Family Guy.
Wow… Cold Case got a better 18-49 than Three Rivers…
Rob, can it be added to the chart?
“I guess I was one of the few who watched the premiere and thought it was by far the most boring show I’d watched since Sit Down, Shut Up premiered.”
It was boring, but everybody doesn’t give up on a show after one episode. The 2nd was much better, but they still have a lot of room for improvement.
Question, How can Fox average over 10 million viewers if only the Football overrun went over 10 million?
So The Simpsons improved compared to last Sunday. Kudos to Fox, Animation Domination is indeed a domination. And I’m sure AD kicked the hell out of their concurrence in the 18-34 demo.
I just went to TWOP to read what people thought of Three Rivers and I couldn’t find a thread for it, not because it got bumped down a few pages, but apparently because no one’s even created a thread for it. Either people didn’t know this was on or they knew but didn’t care to watch. Looks like CBS will give The Good Wife a backorder but not this show.
Three Rivers did as expected, not good. My guess is that it will have 3 more airings and then get pulled. FOX’s lineup improved a lot from 8-9:30, probably do to the dreadful King of the Hill’s abscence.
@Holly, of course you’re right. I watch DH and B&S, suppose I typed B&S because it stuck in my mind more from last night. Though DH was really good, too. I’d also prefer football to Three Rivers, which I don’t see myself watching again
I think they should swap over Dollhouse and The Cleveland Show. Crap sitcoms belong on a Friday evening. Dollhouse, of course, will need to be reduced to 30 minutes minus commercials, but that could be exactly what the show needs.
TR numbers are ugly. I think it is possible to counter-schedule a show targeting young women vs. DH, but not with CBS’s sensibilities.
Will be interesting to see what happens here. TR will probably get one more airing and then yanked; I believe CBS knows CC is dead and would prefer to keep it at 10, but they may think they can’t get Miami Trauma promoted enough for Nov. sweeps by that point, and air CC leading into some Canadian show until January.
Robert – So basically Three Rivers dropped from its Race lead in. I’d expect CBS to move Cold Case back to 9 and air Flashpoint at 10, but thats just what I would do.
How long until CBS switches CC with TR? Or axes TR?
I say the over/under is 4 weeks.
Tom – Beginning January, its likely Cold Case would air at 9 and lead into either Miami Trauma or The Bridge.
Julia, Cold Case went down, or did I make a typo?
Oops, left off Home Makeover and Amazing Race. They are in the table now.
Bfan – My guess is after the October 25th airing. 4 weeks is long enough for CBS to decide the overall performance but its just in time to switch CC back to 9 and air Flashpoint for sweeps.
The Cleveland show held up well but last night’s episode was a good deal worse than the pilot so I’ll be interested to see what effect that has, if any, on next week’s numbers.
And that Three Rivers number is pretty darn pitiful. I don’t see how it has much of any hope of surviving very long.
I think if Three Rivers gets cancelled, they should try out repeats of NCIS LA or even NCIS which would rate better but I agree with Dan that Cold Case will move back to 9pm and Flashpoint at 10pm. The Bridge seems like a summer show rather than a midseason replacement.
CBS should just move Cold Case back to 9pm (it did somewhat better there) and have Flashpoint or repeats of NCIS, CSI or Mentalist at 10pm.
Miami Trauma probably isn’t ready to air by November so it will have to be either one of the Canadian shows or repeats.
YES, I knew it. DH and Brothers & Sisters UP!!!!
A question: Do you think CBS is really expecting much from any of its Sunday shows in 18-49? I’m not being snarky. With football, Fox animation (domination, indeed!) and Housewives, it’s a very young-skewing night. And even though Three Rivers only had a 2.0, it was very consistent with other CBS shows in overall viewership. Could that be enough to satisfy CBS here?
Nice bump for Desperate Housewives this week. Let’s hope they can hold onto that instead of dropping back down.
Fox had a good night. The Cleveland show held up from its premiere and it looks like the only weak point of the night is American Dad.
Sunday remains CBS’s weakest day. 60 Minutes and AR were fine. Not spectacular, but acceptable. Cold Case isn’t doing much with its second chance, but that’s not really surprising. Three Rivers predictably bombed. The only question is how fast they are going to replace it and with what. Repeats? Flashpoint? One of the mid-season shows? Will they move CC back to 9? If they are so desperate to get Alex O’Loughlin on the air, maybe they should work him into one of their existing shows, because they aren’t having much luck launching a show around him.
Looks like CBS needs to find another pilot for Alex O’Loughlin, soon.
@Dan – I respectfully disagree. Why waste good real estate on a show you know is already dead (CC) and isn’t even produced in house?
That said, CC may end up there for some or most of the year, simply because it holds up better vs. DH or performs the best out of all the options. But CBS doesn’t want to air it there.
So how many weeks are we all guessing till COLD CASE returns to 9 PM? Three? Four?
Considering the last few years, this was a terrific Sunday night for FOX. When was the last time the numbers were this high?
Ok, I’ve decided to give TR a shot, specially because I usually don’t agree with TV Critics. Although this time I totally agree. TR was totally boring and dull.I think the ratings will get even worse next weeks because some people like me won’t come back.I found the show totally soporific. I am surprised CBS put this show in the air.I didn’t like the story or the characters.
Or….like Holly said, not….just stick him into another existing show.
Bill, wasn’t Cold Case at 1.9 in the prelims last week? Or was that just for the part of it that didn’t include anything else? But the final had it at 2.1, so 2.2 is still up from that.
Jose, I was Mr. Typo this AM. The NFL viewership was wrong. It was 19.340 m.
CBS Cold Case (premiere) 1.9 5 8.38
last week so it went up!!
Bfan, at if by 4 weeks you think that CBS will air 4 more Three Rivers, I will take the under.
thanks bill
I think Fox gets helped out on Sunday nights when the game is a blowout, like it has been the last two weeks. Especially since Fox is the only channel with programming that would also appeal to football fans. I doubt they would change to Desperate Housewives, but they would definitely switch to Family Guy or American Dad.
Yeah, my bad on the Cold Case comparison. Since the overnights were a mess with the overrun last week, I just looked at the timeslot.
Marc Berman is reporting that NFL on Fox got a 7.6/22 18-49 rating/share at 7.
Is that demo number at 7pm right for Fox?? Doesn’t make sense that 20 million people are watching a tight Cowboys game and it’s 3.3 demo, while the late football game has a 6.5 demo with a similar total audience.
thank god Desperate Housewives went up.
Does anyone know when the football season ends?
I want DH ratings to go back to 6.0
Too many medical dramas this fall, particularly new ones. Huge mistake since I bet the great majority couldn’t distinguish one from the other before watching any of them. I hope this ends the huge influx of medical dramas, one new one here and there is all great…. but 3 or 4 that started this fall is quite ridiculous. And then you add Nurse Jackie and Hawthorne which started this summer and it really uber ridiculous.
Tom – CBS would find it better to air a waning veteran drama back in its same slot, than just add another new series, likely to flop in the slot.
Jon – Adding Flashpoint makes sense. CBS has 9 eps left, and that could easily air from November-January until Miami Trauma or The Bridge is ready.
FOX’s animation block is doing great, adding Cleveland helped 8:30 out. American Dad at 9:30 is still down though. Maybe syndication will help Dad out.
Dennis,
the numbers I have for the Fox 7pm hour are a 5.9/17. I am still waiting for our alternate source to double check.Can I make any more typos today? Geez.
I’d be shocked if 3 Rivers makes it to 3 episodes. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets pulled before next week.
I was eagerly awaiting this new drama. I actually enjoyed it very much. I hope that CBS does not pull the plug early because I have a feeling it may grow in viewership especially when football is gone.
Bill how many episodes did three rivers get we up for???
Is that demo number at 7pm right for Fox?? Doesn’t make sense that 20 million people are watching a tight Cowboys game and it’s 3.3 demo, while the late football game has a 6.5 demo with a similar total audience.
Yes, the footbal demo should also be higher for FOX, otherwise they’re averaging no more than a 4.1
Bill – My guess is Three Rivers will air
October 4
October 11
October 18
October 25
then get yanked, its possible the series will be pulled after the 18th but I dont think any less than 3 weeks, and no longer than 4.
Bill, you have it listed on the chart as 3.3 for Fox at 7.
And you already fixed it. 
picked up I mean
Steven, I’d put Three Rivers chance at outlasting the football season at zero.
Out of all the FOX Animated shows, I think American Dad is most at risk of being axed, it reaches 100 episodes this season but they don’t really have another show to replace it with. Sons of Tuscon doesn’t strike me as a show that will work with Simpsons or Family Guy.
I think Miami Trauma has more of the shot of getting the midseason than The Bridge but I imagine The Bridge has more episodes in the can, when does it premiere on Canadian televisiom?
I hope I have the table finally correct.
However, based on this morning’s stellar performance by me, I put the the likelihood that more mistakes need to be corrected at 95%!
That is the difference between getting the numbers I have to type in manually and being able to copy/paste
It’s such a pleasure to read about Sundays ratings. It’s nice that CBS gets its ass kicked on at least one night. I’m so sick of them dominating on Monday, Tuesday, and Friday. And it’s not even like CBS is dominating with good shows. It’s usually just the same derivative sitcoms and procedurals. The only shows I really watch on CBS are The Mentalist, The Big Bang Theory, and Survivor. Well, I’ve been watching The Good Wife as well, but I’m not sure that I’m going to stick with it. Maybe if the other networks actually put decent programming on Monday, Tuesday, and Friday, they would actually have a chance at beating CBS, but crappy reality shows and the Jay Leno Show just aren’t going to cut it.
@vinny,
They probably got the standard 13-episode pick up, but the chances of all 13 episodes airing is slim to none.
I am very surprised at how well Three Rivers did with its reviews and everything.
Sundays were more fun in the summer, with L&O:CI and In Plain Sight…
Dan, yup, I’m going with four more as well: up until November sweeps starts.
I think Three Rivers was watched by more people than ever watched Moonlight!
TR will be pulled by Oct 25 and CC will be put in the 9pm time slot.
CBS is “very excited” about it’s Oct 25th CC ep.
WHEN DOES THE STUPID, FOOTBALL STOP!!!!?????
yessss for DH, glad it has got higher
x x x
Too bad about the Three Rivers ratings. The show entertained me. Plus, Daniel Henney brings the pretty!
As someone who watched Moonlight but was not one of the overwrought fans it seemed odd that CBS thought it could put O’Loughlin in any old show and get viewers. Three Rivers is the kind of show that should have been building characters, not frenetic plot lines the first few episodes. Then they should have built on the story hook. You have to at least sympathize with the regular cast. Look at The Mentalist. They gave you someone to root for right from the beginning. Think of the USA Network tag line: Characters Welcome.
On Three Rivers we got no sense of who these doctors were and we didn’t really care if the patients got their transplants. It felt like frantic “Doctor Show by the Numbers.” I’ll stick with it basically (it could get better?) since I don’t watch any of the other shows on the other networks but I wouldn’t mind it if they returned Cold Case to its regular slot and, as suggested, put Flashpoint after Cold Case. I like Flashpoint, which amazingly for the kind of show it is, had you empathizing with the team from the beginning.
Isn’t the usual guideline that networks want at least two weeks, preferably three, to promote new shows? Let’s keep in mind that November sweeps are only four weeks away, and CBS will want their backup plan in place by then.
Therefore, assuming TR numbers don’t miraculously improve, Oct. 18th will be the last week it airs – and it could be yanked after the 11th.
CBS waiting to see how the 25th’s episode does (and giving themselves only one week of promotion for plan B) will not happen.
AGAIN CBS REFUSING TO COUNT THE AGE GROUP THAT ENJOYS THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS…I HAVE JUST AS MUCH SPENDING MONIES AS THE “YOUNGER” CROWD, AND PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE…..GIVE THE SHOW A CHANCE TO GROW…I AM NOT “SCRAPES”…
OMG thanks God Housewives went up, I hope continues until get a > 6.0 in de demo
TR mmmmm…. very difficult situation
I AM NOT “SCRAPES” EITHER!
Scraps, quite possibly though.
Rest assured, Nana, CBS counts them and LOVES you. It’s the advertisers who don’t want to pay much for our ilk.
Nana
While CBS does court older viewers (at least the 25-54 demo), its likely that demo score is also going to be low.
As for the value of older persons, no one disputs that they spend money (often much more), but its also believed that by that stage ads aren’t going to be as effective in getting you as a new consumer.
Robert, I think Nana has sight problems judging from the caps lock although it also could be shouting.
Sundays have also been CBS’ problem night, the only time they seem to get 10m+ on this day is football or the Jessie Stone films, I’m surprise CBS don’t order more to fill in gaps.
Not surprisingly, Three Rivers did best (among the demo groups we see) with Women 25-54 with a 3.6-3.7 rating. It trailed Housewives and football in that demo, but did beat the Fox animation
I watched The Simpsons, The Cleveland Show, and Desperate Housewives live last night! I enjoyed each one a lot! The Cleveland Show improved a lot from its pilot. I’m glad to see Desperate Housewives ratings up from last week because its a lot better than last season,
I recorded The Amazing Race, Family Guy, American Dad!, and Amazing Race and havent watched them yet.
NANA says at October 5, 2009 at 10:05 am:
“AGAIN CBS REFUSING TO COUNT THE AGE GROUP THAT ENJOYS THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS…I HAVE JUST AS MUCH SPENDING MONIES AS THE ‘YOUNGER’ CROWD, AND PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE…..GIVE THE SHOW A CHANCE TO GROW…I AM NOT ‘SCRAPES’…
CAPS LOCK ON, “again,” whining about the demo, etc.
People can identify Moonlight fans easy.
Nana, I know all of you Moonlight fans like the bus ads and the print ads in Variety and the HR, but please consider skywriting for the “Save Three Rivers” campaign. Don’t do something lame like a rolling billboard.
Skywriting, Nana. Just think how cool “SAVE THREE RIVERS” would look across the sky spelled in letters as tall as the Empire State Building.
I was a huge Moonlight fan , but I just couldn’t swallow TR , Alex or not Alex in it.
CBS thinking all Moonlight fans would watch TR was a huge mistake.
TR got the exactly bad numbers , any bad show would had got in the same time slot at CBS. Alex made not diference at all.
If all Moonlight hard fans would had watched TR yesterday , the show would had got 1 million more viewers.
I guess CBS was expecting that , so even if they knew the show was crap , they thought maybe TR could be saved by Moonlight viewers.Because just 1 more million for a Sunday night may have saved the show.
Sorry CBS.
Hi Bill,
What an awful week for FOX Development:
Monday: “Lie To Me”…loses 45%+ of the “House” demo and audience. NICE Work!
Tuesday: “So You Think You Can Dance”…with 5.3 million viewers and a 2.5 demo gets DESTROYED by new super-hit NCIS:LA, 17.9 million/4.2 demo.
Wednesday: “Glee”, which FOX anticipated to be a huge, huge hit…gets crushed by “Criminal Minds” and “Modern Family”
Thursday: “Fringe” gets destroyed by “Grey’s Anatomy” and “CSI”
Friday: New sit-com “Brothers” pulls in “Bowling For Dollars” numbers with 2.42 million/ .8 demo. Nice work FOX Comedy development. “Dollhouse” pulls in “Yule Log” numbers with 2.09 million/.8 demo. Good idea that FOX renewed this one…FRIGGING PITIFUL !!!
And FOX development gets paid for this? Letting these stooges run this network is like letting a “chimpanzee” fly a jet plane…or worse…letting those CEO’s run General Motors into the ground.
NBC:
GE may sell 51% of NBC-Universal to cable giant COMCAST…that can only mean one ting…JEFF ZUCKER IS FINALLY TOAST…but don’t worry ’bout him…he’s got a huge golden parachute…and unlike your average loser TV-phile…Jeff will fail upwards and get a new, better paying job with another Fortune 500 company.
Love,
Emily
PS- I know my little TV-philes…the costs for FOX to produce/air “Dollhouse” has been slashed to the bone…but come on…you’re not the one who has to meet with Rupert Murdoch and put a positive spin on why you renewed this stiff that’s getting a 2.09 mill/.8 demo.
PSS- “itunes” royalties pays literally “PENNIES” on the dollar..so that “Glee” ancillary income amounts to chump change….barely pays the monthly cost of the “appetizers” FOX development execs order at all those “power” lunches and dinners”…Hehe.
Too bad Three Rivers is not on another night. It would have beat any show on Friday night. Three Rivers has a tough schedule.
I had planned on taking a gander at 3R, but with those numbers I think I’ll just leave it on DVR for now, to be watched if and when it looks like it may actually stick around.
Please CBS Save Three Rivers.!
9.1 millions fans waiting!
I loved MOONLIGHT but Three Rivers just isn”t that good. For me I watched MOONLIGHT cause of the story amd not Alex I guess i like Vampires. CBS is a foolish to believe that cause people watched MOONLIGHT that they will watch Alex in a hospital drama about Transplants.
Steelers vs. Three Rivers? No contest. Both are set in Pittsburgh but one was way more exciting. Even so, 3R getting over 9 million viewers considering the competition isnt horrible. Im sick to death of hospital shows so I dont care what happens to 3R.
Maybe if Alex’s 3R character developed a taste for human blood and kept raiding the blood bank and feasting on his patients I might watch it.
Bad Robot, a 2.0 demo rating for a broadcast series premiere *is* horrible, period. BTW, Desperate Housewives hurt Three Rivers last night a lot more than football did. DH’s heavy female demos took away the viewers that *might* have watched Three Rivers.
I was a Moonlight fan. I was even one of those fans that contacted every network and wrote letters in an effort to get someone to renew or bring back Moonlight. I never said I wouldn’t watch CBS again. In fact, I was excited to hear they had signed to keep Alex O’Loughlin. But, I was worried about the theme of this show. It was great to see Alex again but this show missed the mark for female fans that miss Mick St. John. The numbers are near what Moonlight was pulling in when it was canned by CBS. If this show can’t score with women wanting to avoid Sunday Night Football, it’s doomed. Dear Three Rivers writers – try romance for your hunky lead and less medical drama about body parts. It was uncomfortable to watch.
I hope CBS dumb Three Rivers soon, so can ABC pick it up next year to pair it with greys anatomy and private practise. I will be a medical drama thursday night for ABC. I think they will get decent ratings with 3 medial drama on thursday. CBS should stick further with crime series, like the CSI franchise or the mentalist. ABC should have picked the series for this fall.
I watched three rivers, it was kinda odd because of those high-tech machines. It is very unusual for a medial drama using like these.
bad Robot, that was a great idea.
Maybe Dr. Andy could be bitten by a Vamp in his way back home and he could turn into a Vampire.
Yes a kind of Doc-Vamp mix. Maybe this will make everybody happy , CBS, Three Rivers and Moonlight fans.
Yes CBS, get rid of those scrubs and give us back some fangs! LOL.
The Demo was was bad only because mostly old people were watching it. All they need to do is run alot of erectile dysfuntion, Depends, Liberty Medical (featuring the awesome of Mr. Beetus aka Wilford Brimley) and Hoveround ads. Problem solved.
Tom – CBS usually waits on average, 3 weeks to axe a drama in the fall. Sometimes they wait longer (The Ex List, Threshold), sometimes its rather quick (Viva Laughlin). With Three Rivers, I think CBS will wait a bit longer than 2 eps. Maybe after the 18th maybe the 25th. Its definitely one of those. Anyway Three Rivers will be axed somewhere between October 20-October 30. But does anyone think another series will be axed before then. TBL is the only one cancelled so far.
Dan, I agree, I think Three Rivers likely last episode is October 25. Three more episodes to be aired. That’s why I took the “under” on 4 more episodes.
That’s not good that 3 Rivers finished dead last in the 18-49 demo.
Okay, I’m just curious. People have been proclaiming this show DOA for months now even before it aired…why is that? Has there been bad word of mouth on this show…early reviews, people seeing the pilot early? Or are people sick and tired of another damn medical show? I mean I’m just curious how such negativity started building for this show.
I thought CBS was begging to have an Alex O’Loughlin starring vehicle since they canned Moonlight and thought the show would have a better advantage being produced by CBS.
I actually met the creator of 3 Rivers a few years ago, Carol Barbee, and she seemed like a very nice lady. It sucks to see 3 shows that she produced (Jericho, Swingtown and now 3 Rivers) sink.
“The Demo was was bad only because mostly old people were watching it.”
Well, that makes sense if you ask me.
Does anyone think CBS will eventually cut Survivor and Amazing Race down to one season per year? For example air Survivor on Thursday nights in the Fall and Amazing Race on Thursday nights in the Winter… I’d like to see both continue for many years to come.
Don J – Its basically the time slot. Initially I thought The Good Wife would be axed when I saw that it got the 10pm timeslot, but airing after 2 NCIS powerhouses as well as no SVU or Boston Legal competition, and good reviews. The Good Wife is good for additional eps. With NCIS: LA guaranteed a full year, that leaves Rivers as the first contender for cancellation. Airing at 9 against Football, Housewives and Family Guy also will hurt the show and then the series will in turn hurt Cold Case.
I thought Desperate’d get a 5. Still, beat Family Guy.
Simpsons narrowly beat Cleveland.
For a change, CBS loser all around. Last place in all measures. I suppose Good Wife is relatively safe now along with Numbers.
Brett – No. As long as Survivor performs great it will have 2 cycles. Ironically the year of the strike, where reality shows were prevolent, Amazing Race only had 1 cycle for midseason, which was pushed to fall after Viva Laughlin got axed. Both should continue to have 2 cycles, with some reality series filling in in January.
J – Numb3rs is safe until May. The Good Wife should get additional episodes.
emily24 is back lol and thanks holly.
@Don J: The timeslot is ugly (NFL gets men, DH gets older women, FG gets youth), the pilot was poorly reviewed, the show was recast and the pilot partially reshot, and there was some last minute episode swapping (did they in fact air episode two last night?). Plus CBS does so well overall that shows usually have to do at 3.0 Su-Th to even stay on the air.
All of which boded poorly – but even I didn’t think it would be 2.0 bad.
emily24, do you get paid for this? Or is this just a hobby?
@Tom: You are right sir. I looked at thefutoncritic.com and they apparently aired episode 102 last night.
Yes, I did hear that the original pilot was recasted…I believe Julia Ormond was replaced.
At least Cold Case was up a little this week.
Handwriting was all over the wall that “Three Rivers” was headed for a failure before it ever began.
Alex needs an action role & not a waste of his talent in this “doom & gloom” series.
Why CBS didn’t give Alex the staring role in NCIS Los Angeles is beyond my understanding.
Three Rivers did air epi 102 in place of epi 101 (which will air this coming Sunday (10/11). Only one cast member was replaced–Julia Ormond was replaced with Alfre Woodard. Given the fact that Three Rivers is up against last season’s #5 and #9 rated shows, CBS couldn’t have possibly expected miracles out of Three Rivers and I think will give it longer than just 4 weeks to find its audience, especially given the fact it’s promoting such a great cause. I think this is something CBS really cares about and won’t be so quick to cancel the show.
Someone at TWOP finally started a thread about this show and the reaction from those who watched it is a resounding MEH.
My favorite comment comes from poster ‘Vartanfan’ (hey, I remember her from the Alias boards!) who says:
‘The transplant office guy is so very Zach Morris. I expected him to go “time out” at any second.’
Heh.
Bill If the ratings get even worse could they dump 3R be4 OCt 25??
simpsons was up almost 2 million viewers compared with the comparable episode last season
I am a Alex O’loughin fan but I didn’t care that much for 3R…I agree that it needs ALOT of work if it is to be successful…there is no backstory for the doctors or really even the patients….may or may not tune in again….I agree with the previous poster that said Mr. O’loughlin needs action….
“It’s nice that CBS gets its ass kicked on at least one night. I’m so sick of them dominating on Monday, Tuesday, and Friday.” –MM
“House,” “Dancing,” and “Monday Night Football” prevent CBS from dominating Monday. CBS dominates Tuesday (until the Spring). Friday isn’t much to brag about, with all shows under 2.5 in 18-49.
that makes me think of a question J.R. If Sunday shows do better than Friday’s demos are they likely to stay on? All three shows Sunday did better than Friday. I am still trying to figure out how all the demos factor in….
Three Rivers has a complicated format and I hope that the viewers will give it a chance to fine its balance. The actors are not that well known, but I found that their inter-action with one another was quite wonderful. The young female doctor’s inter-action with the little boy was touching. This show has a quiet elegance for me that the other medical dramas do not. The black refugee was an amazing character and he wandered around in my thoughts long after the show was over. I hope that CBS won’t pull the plug because I think that they have a medical drama that is different and it needs time to attract its audience.
Three Rivers was pathetic….I realize it is a drama but at least give some thread of truth to it…..do people really believe that after a heart transplant you wake up with no tubes anywhere and just ready to carry on a conversation. I hope people don’t think that hearts are just waiting for people who need them and bang you got it. Whoever wrote this episode should have a the very least did 5 minutes of research.
Three Rivers is dead, it will just take a few weeks.
Three Rivers is a terrible show.
CBS should not had canceled Moonlight and put Alex in this terrible boring show.
I guess CBS really wanted a Medical Show as House and they thought that will Alex all those lame Moonlight viewers would come running.
Well, it looks it didn’t work out pretty well.
Moonlight fans are gone long time ago.
Please don’t bunch all the former Moonlight fans together. I swore I wouldn’t watch CBS, and I haven’t. I never intended to watch Three Rivers. Sorry Alex, I was a Sophia Myles fan.
Poor, Poor Alex!!
What has CBS done to you??
And, more important, why did you allow it?
From sexy Vamp to this??? Ouch!
I love how you guys just automatically are ignorant to the Moonlight fans. Nice showing, really makes people want to come to your site, really.
That being said, I thought Three Rivers was one of the worst shows I’ve ever seen. CBS assumed they could stick a bunch of popular actors in a show it would magically be fantastic. The camera work was vomit-inducing, I couldn’t care less for the doctors or the patients. The sets and medical ‘miracles’ were laughable. I’m am not surprised at all that this show did so bad. As a matter of fact, people are actually taking bets on how many episodes it’s going to get, I said at best 6, but you seasoned veterans may be right at 4. *changes bet*
I cannot believe people are still watching Brothers & Sisters, it’s the biggest piece of OTT, over dramatic crap on the air.
I think the main reason Three Rivers didn’t have a good showing, is mainly down to most people being a bit tired of the medical thing. The fans who aren’t seem to be hooked into Grey’s and HOUSE anyway.
Cold Case is low but a long time favorite for me. It’s the only crime show that I watch because it doesn’t rely on outrageously disturbing crimes and shock value images like CSI or that other one (the one with the guy from Young & The Restless on it. )
Gee…I wonder where all those actor centric Moonlight fans Nina Tassler talk about were yesterday night ???
Well, I don’t know where they were…But, I know for sure they were not watching Three Rivers.
@Dakota – if O’Loughlin had any sense in that Aussie brain of his, he would run – run fast and far away from CBS!
@barbara – we were all having a Moonlight marathon because we miss Sophia Myles and Jason Dohring. *coughs*
Three Rivers’ plots were intricate but I very much look forward to its continuation. It’s only drawback would be it’s competition at that timeslot. It’s different from other medical shows in that it focuses on a specific type of surgery, organ transplantation, which encourages one of the most generous gifts to be given.
I loved 3R.
I wonder if in the final #’s Desperate gets beaten by Guy, or if either gets to a 5…
I watched a little of Three Rivers yesterday and I could not believe Alex was the same actor I fall in love with Moonlight. The TV reviews I had read before were harsh. But after watching Three rivers I understand they were right. I just cannot think in one nice thing to say about this show.
And this made me realize even more that Moonlight for me was about the story, Mick,Beth<josef and Coraline. Never about Alex.
I have a new respect to TV viewers from today.Before watching the show I thought they were all morons for being so negative towards Three Rivers. Now, I know they were just honest.
Yes, Poor Alex , taking Mick away from him because of this.
Which is easier on CBS’s purse strings cancelling a decent show like without a trace that had decent ratings, or inserting a show like three rivers and “take your chances!”
We watched Family Guy in the 9 o’clock hour which was funny. American Dad is “unwatchable”
Well Cleveland trended down but not in danger of being canned just yet. Peter Griffin will overshadow his friend but Cleveland will hold his own.
Sunday Nights are heading south on CBS once again.
Not A fan of Family Guy- but did Cleveland leave Family Guy? Did they have any crossovers?
If only The CW was on… CBS would not be in last place.
the same Moonlight-illogic is making a comeback:
9.1 mil viewers does not mean 9.1 mil fans.
Most TV viewers are occasional viewers and would not identify as “fans” of a show, particularly a new one. Some happen to choose CBS at 9p (I wasn’t one of them) because it was already on or they had nothing better to watch. There is no guarantee they even liked 3R or come back again next week. Actually, I’m sure we’re going to see an immense drop next week, and the one after that.
And no, Moonlight didn’t have 10 mil fans. Not even 7. Its viewership was fluctuating and most people definitely did not identify as fans. The actual fandom was a few hundreds or low thousands at best.
Good for CBS, they deserve it after cancelling good shows. People just don’t bother watching a show again, fearing it will be cancelled.
Cold Case should be sent to the cold case files. It’s a goner.
Lu, people seem to be only giving CBS what it “deserves” on Sunday for canceling the/those show(s) you liked. CBS is doing great on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday. Not badly on Wednesday, and as well as can be expected on Fridays.
As long as we’re letting facts enter the discussion, we could also point out that CBS is the network most likely to give shows a second season. And has the most stable schedule, the longest running shows, and the fewest cancellations.
I thought TR was pretty good and entertaining, maybe not great, but it needs time to develop the characters and for the viewers to connect with them. So I’ll give it more chance.
No one had brought this up (or maybe I might have missed it) but don’t you think that CBS may move TR to another slot first before giving up on it?
I personally think CBS needs to reshuffle its TV lineup. For instance, The Mentalist is much too sassy and lighthearted to be on at 10PM, much less follow a dark show like the original CSI. The Mentalist’s ratings aren’t as strong as last year’s. And the back-to-back NCIS and its spinoff are redundant. So I think perhaps CBS may decide to move Mentalist back to Tuesday at 9PM and put Three Rivers at 10PM. The Good Wife can go to Thursday at 10PM and NCIS: LA to Sunday at 9PM.
What say you?
What– so only old people watched 3R? Because their viewership numbers weren’t too bad or different from the lead-in and lead-out but their demo numbers got slashed. Don’t get it.
I thought it was decent. Liked it much better than I thought I would. Too bad.
Why doesn’t ABC ever air promos for AFV? They aired promos for DH, EMHE, B&S, etc…but no AFV. I really think AFV could be a juggernaut at 7pm if ABC aired promos for it. They have a loyal fanbase like Bones; but unlike Bones, AFV is a show for the whole family and their fanbase can be increased easily if ABC aired promos for it like they do with all their other shows.
CBS is in a postition where they can cancel a show which has numbers which on other networks would get a renewal. Unfortunately that may upset fans of said shows but that is the way it works.
Holly I completely agree with you. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t CBS usually cancel at least 1 new show fairly fast when it’s doing poorly? I agree with everyone that 3 Rivers has 2 maybe 3 more episodes to air before it gets canceled.
Tommy, commenter Dan, who is quite the TV historian has it all nailed down. CBS cans one new drama early, its not going to be Good Wife or NCIS:LA, so its got to be Three Rivers.
HOM — Excellent question. Someone here can give you a better answer.
Generally, the networks’ scripted shows on Friday would be canceled if they didn’t make money in syndication. (“Brothers,” “Dollhouse,” and “Southland” are the exceptions, and they’re likely to get axed.)
2.0 means 2% of people 18-49 watched “Three Rivers.” A 5 share means 5% of people aged 18-49, who were using their TVs, watched “Three Rivers.” “Law and Order” earned a 5 share on Friday and 1.2 rating. This means many more people were not using their TVs on Friday. Share is important because some advertisers need to buy commercial time on Friday night, like for movies. Since “GW” has the best share, it earns more than a show that places fourth on Sunday, when advertisers have three better options.
Switching “Three Rivers” to Friday wouldn’t improve its numbers, and it has no syndication money to save it.
CBS would never move shuffle there lineup that much.
You want them to Move Mentalist 3.6 ish , Good Wife 3.0 and NCIS:LA 4.2 ish to make room for a show that got a 2.0 demo in it’s premiere .
TR doesn’t fit the CBS lineup. They haven’t developed a Medical Drama in a long time.
i’m 27 year male, i watch DH, don’t watch football or animation on Sunday.
TR was a bad concept, transplants and it had a gimmicky vibe to it, from the commercials, plus the poor reviews, not i positive review.
If it was on NBC it would be given more of a chance, TR is no different than Mercy, Trauma, just bad shows.
It had nothing to do with all the new medical drama’s, for me.
I sampled them all. They were just poorly executed shows.
Hope says on October 5, 2009 at 2:14 pm:
“I have a new respect to TV viewers from today. Before watching the show I thought they were all morons for being so negative towards Three Rivers. Now, I know they were just honest.”
Moonlight sucked, too. Just being honest.
I didn’t watch Three Rivers, I guess that was a good thing, bring Flashpoint back, if CBS wants to try shows out put them on after CSI on Thursday then move them, would it matters who knows.
DH and B&S are up in the demo,good news for ABC as last week’s premiere ratings for boths were pretty alarming but yeah I agree with one commenter that said without DH, B&S won’t really that well. But I was actually hoping B&S would be much stronger on its own so that ABC could test it on another night (Wednesdays or Tuesdays 10 pm probably) so that ABC could sample a new show on the post-DWTS slot.
The Amazing Race held up okay, I wish it could go 3.0 though.
^ I mean post-DH slot not DWTS (same for boths, should have type both shows). Typo
CBS can’t seem to make it through a single season without canning one of their new fall shows in October (except for 2005, when they waited all the way until the end of November to yank “Threshold,” and 2000, when David Letterman apparently blackmailed Les to keep the horrendous “Welcome to New York” on the air until January), but I’ve got to admit those “Three Rivers” ratings were well over and above what I was expecting. I was expecting it to be literally DOA. Granted, I can’t imagine most of those 9 million viewers will make that mistake again.
And note to Seth MacFarlane. That dig last night about ABC comedies being “messes?” Yeah, they’ve got “Better Off Ted,” “Modern Family” and “The Middle.” You’ve got “The Cleveland Show.” Okay, just checking to make sure you knew.
Why do you seem to be in such a hell-bent rush to write off “Desperate Housewives”? Is it really that inconceivable that millions of people still watch and enjoy the show? Get over yourself!
Looks like CBS decided what to do to replace Three Rivers
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3id9b527feb78495416855ccc748db487a
(hat tip to Christopher in the “Send CBS a liver…” post)
Riff – Your right. CBS always yanks 1 new drama after a few eps by the end of October since 2006
Smith (October 6, 2006)
Viva Laughlin (October 22, 2007)
The Ex List (October 27, 2008)
Three Rivers (October ??, 2009)
Ironically, the year CBS had four new dramas (Fall 2005) they waited until November to axe a series. Close to Home would have likely been that series had CBS not done that swap that saved Home and officially killed Threshold.
Riff – I think Seth meant messes because ABC could not air a single comedy through its third season since Hope & Faith. I dont think they were commenting on the quality just the ratings. And its not that they cant make it, CBS’s policy is that out of 3 new dramas, 1 gets a full season, 1 gets a full season or additional eps, and 1 gets axed.
Dan writes, “Riff – Your right. CBS always yanks 1 new drama after a few eps by the end of October since 2006″
Oh, “Welcome to New York” wasn’t a drama. It just seemed like it was because it was about as funny as one. Ditto “Danny” (how the hell did that EVER got on the air?), “Work with Me,” “The Brian Benben Show,” “Meego,” “Public Morals,” “Dweebs,” “Bram and Alice” and some of the other fall launches well spent from the Moonves administration.
Of course a sitcom won’t be their customary October cancellation this season, since the only one they launched is “Accidentally on Purpose” — and they’ve got way too much invested in it. (Ten bucks when it is finally canned, it won’t be over ratings but because no one can stand to deal with Gail Berman anymore.) Not that it deserves to last any longer than the 2 months the last Jenna Elfman slutcom lasted, since it isn’t even that good. But I digress.
@Jon – Robert, I think Nana has sight problems judging from the caps lock although it also could be shouting.
You are correct with your first assumption. I’ve known Nana from the Moonlight Fandom since 2007. She does indeed have sight problems, and always posts in caps lock for that reason.
*waves to Nana*
I can’t believe that CBS thought that a subpar script like Three Rivers could ever appease Moonlight fans.
I adored Moonlight – not for the genre – but for the script, the storytelling, the acting, and yeah – Alex O. But as a great a fan of Alex as I am, I still won’t watch the drivel that is TR..
With a fourth place finish, the best thing about TR was Katherine Moennig. Where were the Moonlight fans?
Riff – If you noticed, CBS hasnt axed a fall sitcom since Bram & Alice. Even seasons when they have 2 new comedies (Listen Up & Center of the Universe) both extended then axed, (How I Met Your Mother & Out of Practice) both get full seasons, Mother renewed, Practice axed, (Worst Week & Gary Unmarried) both extended, Week axed, Gary renewed. Its interesting that 8:00 comedies tend to survive for the season like Listen Up and Mother, while comedies that air post Two and a Half Men get axed early because of bad retention, like Worst Week and Out of Practice. Big Bang Theory has the post Men slot and its working well there so CBS wont move it. However Accidentally has the 8:30 slot so like The Class or Listen Up, Purpose is liekly to get a full year or additional eps, but is likely to be replaced with Rules of Engagement. I dont see Rules replacing Gary though, but if Purpose is successful it might. However Gary has a lot better retention out of Christine than Purpose does out of Mother so my bet is Rules replaces Accidentally. Its a shame that Jenna Elfman will likely have two comedy flops on CBS. Courting Alex wasnt great but Accidentally doesnt look too bad.
Gerry – the Moonlight fans wanted Moonlight back, not another craptacular Medical show. For the majority, despite what some delusional execs might think *glares at Ninz Tassler*, it was about the story, not just O’Loughlin. Hence, we all had better things to watch…
With figures like those Cold Case won’t last the Season unless CBS doesn’t want to admit to having egg on its face.
They made a serious error of judgement in cancelling Without A Trace, even if they had switched it to Sundays.
A lot of people viewed Three Rivers as a rip off of Grey’s. As a result nobody watched.
I had thought that if they had kept Trace and Case they could have a Race/Case/Trace combo on sundays, but CBS decided to try something new. Thats what happens when you have too many high rated series on a network. When you have too many low rated series, well ask NBC or The CW.
Dan, as I recall, they did have a Race/Case/Trace combo a few years ago — maybe 2006/2007?
TommyK – Yep it was 2006-2007 when Shark aired post CSI. I think that sunday night worked, but CBS needs fresh new cheap shows. I think 7 seasons and 160 episodes is pretty good. AFter May of next year the 4 oldest CBS dramas will be CSI, CSI Miami, NCIS, and CSI NY.
I was (and still am) and Moonlight fan. It was the first show since “The West Wing” that I would do my bes tto be home for when it aired, and where I would watch the repeats rather than just finding something else to do. I also don’t watch CBS anymore. They cancelled a show a enjoyed, which was their perogative but if they don’t have programs I’m interested in then I won’t watch. And I’m sick and tired of crime scene shows. Between NCIS, NCIS:LA, CSI, CSI:Miami CSI:NY you have five shows that all basically have the exact same premise. And I personally don’t care for it.
I didn’t watch Three Rivers and have no desire to. I’m an organ donor and I fully support promoting organ donation but it isn’t something I want to watch a show about every week. Because for many of the situations, in order to save a life another person has to die. And while an episode every once in awhile about transplants (such as ‘House’ or even ‘Grey’s Anatomy’ will do) constantly having those episodes is likely to get depressing unless extremely well written and acted – something that doesn’t seem to have been done with Three Rivers.
Thats why there are different networks. If you want to watch similiar crime procedurals watch CBS, if you want to watch a blend of sex in fields of work and home watch ABC., if you want to watch a series where character have personalities within the shows watch FOX. If you like teen dramas and soaps watch CW. If youve ran out of options watch NBC.
I watched about 1/2 of three rivers and thought that no way this is going to survive and I will not waste any time on it. They should cancel it right away.
Same old, Same old, nothing original. Although I did surf the net on the iTouch to see where I had seen the lead character before and he was on the shield which is one of my all time favourite shows.
Three Rivers should be dumped in the river.
CBS may not appeal to everyone but its a formula that has made them number 1 for the last few years with the strike year excepted, they don’t have a powerhouse like Idol or DWTS but all their shows pull in a strong audience.
Three Rivers is the weak link in the Sunday schedule and CBS probably knows this.
I’ve just watched Three Rivers . Well, I could not finished it. I understand the bad ratings completaly. All those screens , the guy with not Medical insurance getting a heart transplant , the characters had no chemistry between them at all, and it looked that for some of them it was even hard to say all those medical words…I guess I’ll stay with Desp.Housewives. I think ABC and Desperate H. numbers are going to get better because of Three Rivers. And if this was the strong chapter and this is why they showed in 1st place, I cannot ever imagine how the other episodes are.
Jon – Thats whats notable about CBS. They dont have a powerhosue taking up 2 nights of the week like FOX or ABC. In fact the only reality they have is Amazing Race, Survivor and Big Brother in the summer. Also CBS has a very steady schedule. Most of their dramas have remained in the same slot since their premieres: CSI Miami, Two and a Half Men (since 2005), NCIS, Gary/Christine (past 2 seasons) Criminal Minds, CSI NY, Survivor, CSI (since 2001), Ghost Whisperer, Numb3rs, and Cold Case has remained on sundays since its premiere though moving gradually from 8-10. Football on NBC is a powerhouse, comedy Family Guy has increased in viewers, and Housewives is doing well too, which put Three Rivers at a disadvantage big enough for cancellation. Even if Rivers aired at 10 it would still decrease out of Cold Case. Sundays at 10 killed Shark and The Unit, and wont help Cold Case but hopefully Flashpoint would hold up there.
I thoroughly enjoyed Three Rivers and its very talented young cast. The stories are realistic, riveting and fast paced. Frankly, all the negative reviews by the critics have scared many viewers away before Three Rivers even premieres. This was totally unfair to Three Rivers and its cast. I hope CBS will give Three Rivers and its gifted young cast time to shine. It also didn’t help that Three Rivers did not premiere as other new and existing shows premiere the week before on CBS. I’m very optimistic that Three Rivers will gain more viewers over the next few weeks.
I’ve not seen a single program on cbs (I STILL refuse to capitalize those letters) since the credits rolled on Moonlight’s finale. I’ve had it with cbs, they cancel the one good show they have and put in it’s place another (yawn!) medical or crime drama. I’ve given up on finding something decent to watch on television. If they have an original show (such as Moonlight) they cancel it right off the bat because of various (and in Moonlight’s case, made up) reasons. I’ve had it with cbs. They lost me as a viewer a long time ago.
I am pretty sure I would have watched three rivers if it hadn’t premiered up against desperate housewives. that is their mistake.
AMEN, AMEN to Stormy Goddess.
I not only lower case that network I also added an x as in cbx. Moonlight was replaced with Ex list so I felt it appropriate to do so. I am a MOONLIGHT FAN and contrary to nina from cbx stated…we are not all Alex fans. He was a major part of a magical team..the entire cast of Moonlight. That network is no longer on our viewing list since the cancelation. I hope that Alex runs away from that network as soon as he can to save his career. Stormy Goddess your statement is as if you read my mind.
Three Rivers also didnt do better because of its lead in. A moderately rated lead in as well as competitive timeslot hurt this series. NCIS LA has NCIS has a lead in and while freshman The Good Wife has a freshman series NCIS LA which is also highly rated.
Cold Case is probably the only survivor of Sunday Nights in the last few years and once that goes, only The Amazing Race will be left with either an existing show plus a new show or two new shows next season.
I can’t believe people are still going on about Moonlight, it’s gone and I doubt CBS are remotely affected by anyone who says they refuse to watch the network.
Why is everyone praising Flashpoint so much? Flashpoint has 2.1 demo while Three Rivers has 2.0. Not too far apart, and what if TR gets 2.1 demo and 9.6 million viewers, will that put them on par with FP?
Remember that TR is done in-house while CBS doesn’t own FP.
Flashpoint is a coproduction with CTV in Canada so it costs CBS a lot less to make than Three Rivers.
What was CBS thinking, putting Three Rivers in the same time slot as Sunday Night Football and Desperate Housewives, which have been successful in their own right, although I don’t watch either. Three Rivers is a good show and IMHO can’t be judged by one episode, although I thought it was very well done. Come Alex O’Loughlin fans where are you?
I like Alex but I don’t believe in blindly supporting an actor no matter how crappy a project he’s in (not that Three Rivers is THAT crappy).
Rather than being stuck in such a troubled production as Three Rivers (troubled both in ratings and also with all the behind-the-scenes episode swapping, etc. stuff going on), I would prefer that Three Rivers get cancelled fast so Alex can either go on to a movie career or find a show that has a better chance of being a success. I hear CBS is creating a Criminal Minds spinoff next year…
Jon, you’re most likely correct in saying that cbs doesn’t care if we watch or not. They certainly didn’t care when we did watch so why on earth would they care now that we don’t? In my honest opinion, cbs is a pos. I’m still going on about Moonlight because it won a Viewer’s Choice Award for Best New Drama and yet still got cancelled. It’s won a Saturn award (basically a sci-fi emmy) since being cancelled by cbs (or cbx as Louise put it)and I refuse to give up on a show that has that much potential simply because the idiot network did. VSRRR!!!
As a volunteer for Lifepoint, organ/tissue donation in South Carolina, I hope Three Rivers stays on the air. I watched and enjoyed the first show, and hope that this program encourages organ/tissue donation in the USA. We all need to be aware of how we can save lives, in the case of an unexpected death. Watch Three Rivers, and DVR the Housewives!!
Well, when CBS canceled The Unit, they lost me as a viewer. I know they could care less, but now I watch anything but their shows. I think Flashpoint is OK, but not nearly as good as The Unit. CBS is horrible when it comes to advertising some shows and over advertises others.
Does anyone know when the contract for Sunday Night Football comes up again?
I really believed that this show “about transplants and organ donors” would encourage MORE people to get in the Organ Donor Program . . . what an amazing way to boost a desperately needed area of medicine ~ think of the lives it would have saved around the world with learning more from behind the scenes and seeing the positive impact from both the donor and the recipients view.
The show would have blossomed had it been given a chance in both the US and Australia – I think the TV executives have a lot to answer for – not just for axing a TV show BUT for preventing what could have been an increase in Organ Donation, as people everywhere became familiar with it and not afraid of it. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU !
Lynne@
Ok, Shame on you??
Just because your show is doing bad doesn’t mean people don’t care for Organ Donations.
I think your post is unfair, probably a lot of organ donors don’t even watch this show.
People can he interested but not wanting to watch the same eaxh week.
Please don’t blame people because they don’t like your show. It is silly. Honest