Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows for the 2010-11 season (results through October 4, 2009):
- Likely To Be Canceled By May, 2010
- Some Danger Of Being Canceled By May, 2010
- Likely to Be Renewed For The 2010-11 Season
| Program | Renew/ Cancel Index |
| Til Death (S), (F) | 0.26 |
| Dollhouse (F) | 0.31 |
| Brothers (F) | 0.31 |
| Fringe | 0.74 |
| Bones | 0.89 |
| Lie To Me | 0.94 |
| Glee | 1.03 |
| American Dad | 1.16 |
| The Simpsons | 1.40 |
| The Cleveland Show | 1.50 |
| Family Guy | 1.66 |
| House | 2.02 |
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I’m more about the numbers than the rumors, but the numbers still say Dollhouse is a goner by the end of the season. It’s highly unlikely that ‘Til Death or Brothers survives until next season as well. ‘Til Death’s producers (Sony) will have the episodes they need for syndication, and presumably won’t need to give the series away to Fox for nearly free again, and Brothers ratings are just plain awful. Still, because those are the only two open half hour slots till football is over, Fox is in a tricky situation if they want to pull just one of them early unless they double up on the other, which wouldn’t seem to increase the ratings either. Even though I have Fringe in orange, I think the danger it gets canceled is small. It will get a big boost from American Idol in the spring and is likely to stick around another season. (It seems I was confused and it will be Glee getting the after Idol slot)
This is a breakdown of Fox scripted shows and their renewal and cancellation prospects. Here are links to the other networks:
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Notes:
The Renew/Cancel Index is a show’s Season To Date adults 18-49 rating divided by its network’s Season to Date average 18-49 rating. If a show’s season to date 18-49 ratings average equalled its network’s 18-49 average, the show would have an Index of 1.00. Without special factors, scripted shows that were more than 10% below their network’s average are typically canceled by the end of the broadcast primetime season.
Factors that could cause a show to be renewed with well below average index:
- (F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Friday’s have been renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.
- (S) – Syndication: Shows nearing syndication (66-88 episodes), often have economic factors that trump ratings leading to renewal.
- (T) – Third Party: Shows that have a portion of their cost underwritten by a 3rd party can be renewed with substantially lower ratings.
Factors that could cause a show to be cancelled with an above average index:
- (p) – Plum timeslot: Shows in plum time slots with average or slightly above average ratings have been cancelled.
What’s the History of the Index and How Did It Do In the Past? Check out the results from the 2007-8 season and the 2008-9 season.
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2009 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved. All ratings used are Live+Same Day viewing.
I think Fox has something like 35 episodes of Till Death (if they finish production on the 22 episode 4th season). They could run double episodes throughout the entire year on Friday if they wanted to.
I still think FOX will try to keep Fringe for 2010-2011. Lie to Me’s fate depends on if FOX wants to coninue saving it, and Glee given the time slots, is likely to return. Til Death already has a full season, and hopefully Brothers will stay paired with it. Dollhouse is DEAD, hopefully it will air around 7 episodes, but its possibly going to get pulled. Also Fringe isnt airing after Idol, its airing after Bones. I dont think FOX would move it again.
According to Wikipedia (yeah yeah), 46 out of 76 episodes have aired. That leaves 30 in the can (though, more then 8 remain ‘unaired’ before a 4th season was done so I have no idea).
Brad, you are correct, but Fox’s behavior between last October when they pulled ‘Til Death off the schedule through the summer indicates that while they have the new episodes ready, they don’t particularly want to air them.
yep Brothers can be canned after 13 then double Til Death
To whom it may concern @ FOX Television:
I know Dollhouse is a sinking ship. I think we ALL do. However, please don’t do the show the injustice of being canceled before “‘Til Death.” Anything but that. If you’re going to axe Dollhouse, please just put that show out of its misery first, even if it’s just by a few minutes. Dollhouse deserves that at least.
Bill,
Fox could have burned off many of those episodes as well but chose not to. The problem is, a handful of them have the neighbors that ‘disappeared’ a few years ago and others have JB Smoove (or whatever his name is) who has also disappeared for Season 4.
Brothers is likely toast and a double-dose of ‘Til Death makes sense for Fox right now. Mid-season will be interesting for them.
And yeah, I actually enjoy ‘Til Death
“Still, because those are the only two open half hour slots till football is over, Fox is in a tricky situation if they want to pull just one of them early unless they double up on the other, which wouldn’t seem to increase the ratings either.”
Fox needs an unpaired half-hour show to run behind the American Idol results show in the spring—unlike SYTYCD, Idol doesn’t have the content for an hour-long results show, as we all saw in season 7 with those painful phone-ins and other nonsense. So I would think Fox would have want to keep one or the other of those sitcoms for those 13 or so weeks of results (depending on how they work the semis this year).
I think Fringe chances up good
I doubt Fringe will get canceled, but I still don’t like to see it in the orange.
Jared:
If you check out TVBTN’s first round of DVR (live + 7) numbers, it’ll give you a good sense of relief about Fringe:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/05/first-week-of-the-jay-leno-show-really-was-dvr-proof/29591
I know on the Dollhouse ratings need to go UP entry, there was some mention that in place of Dollhouse they may run Glee. I think it might be good to run Fringe reruns for the people who have jam packed Thursdays.
o i know, still I’m just saying.
Bill/Brad – There are 9 episodes from the third production season and 1 from the second production season of Til Death which still havent aired. I would have thought FOX would do what ABC did to Better Off Ted and burn the remianing episodes it has off in the summer. But stupidly FOX didnt do that and we have 10 episodes that will probably never air (until syndication). Its completely possible that if FOX axes Brothers, Til Death could just burn off its remaining eps at 7:00 sundays so 8:00 and 9:00 fridays can be devoted to dramas/reality.
What Does The (S) Mean?
Dan,
Correct me if I’m wrong, but they axed the neighbors at the end of Season 2 and they still have unaired episodes with them. Did they do neighbor episodes for some of Season 3 as well?
Going by your numbers, and I can only assume a full 22 episode Season 4 order, that’s 32 episodes of ‘Til Death. Holy. Crap.
Dan- I think your wish for Brothers to last isn’t going to be fulfilled.
Bruce- Til Death will outlast Dollhouse if only for the super cheap eps they bought so the show can go into syndication. But don’t worry, it won’t live THAT much longer than Dollhouse.
Clio- That don’t HAVE to have a half-hour show to pair with AmerIdol. They’ll probably make it a full hour again this year. They may use it to give their new Sunday sitcom a lil’ exposure, but that won’t be long term.
“Even though I have Fringe in orange, I think the danger it gets canceled is small. It will get a big boost from American Idol in the spring and is likely to stick around another season.”
Err, come again? Last I heard it was still on Thursdays for the entire season and will only get to air after a couple AIs, if that.
IMDB lists about 8 unaired episodes from Season Two as well. Not sure if the production schedules were flip/flopped a bit though. It’s been impossible to figure out what the hell is going on with the show over the past few years.
I forgot, Sons of Tuscon is a mid-season show as well. They could stick that after Idol or on Friday/Sundays. Everything else they show is 1 hour shows.
And Dan, I think you and I need to appeal to FOX for Til Death at 7p on Sunday. I think you and I are the only ones who realize that would solve their problem. I know they like to air American Dad reruns at 7:30, but why not just let Til Death take the 7P slot? OBVIOUSLY no one cares about that show that won’t die. When Til Death came out, I didn’t realize that the title implied that they were talking about MY death!!
Brad- It’s been confusing because last year they yanked it at the November sweeps. Seriously though, how cheap did they give the show to FOX? Or was it one of those “For each 2 episodes you buy, we’ll give you an island” type of deal.
Tom, I may have Fringe confused with Lie to Me getting an after Idol slot.
Bill – Yeah, I think Fringe has the possibility in January of getting a post Idol tuesdays slot with Human Target/Glee getting wednesdays and Past Life getting tuesdays around March. I believe Lie to Me will get a full season. However FOX could give it help after Idol or air it 9:00 fridays. It depends on if they really want to save Lie to Me or how well they like their new midseason dramas.
Brad – The only production Season 2 episode is 212 entitled “The Courtship of Eddie’s Parents” which was scheduled to air on November 21, 2007 and then on April 30, 2008. But it was a Thanksgiving episode so thats probably why it was prempted the second time. Though produced as part of Season 2, this episode doesnt have the Woodcocks in it because the plot involves Eddie and Joy going to Florida to visit Eddie’s parents who are splitting up. The Woodcocks are in NONE of the production season 3 episodes so which ever of the 7 episodes that aired from September-October of last year that the Woodcocks were in were produced as part of Season 2. FOX still could have aired these instead of repeats last summer just to finish up the JB Smoove episodes.
nkinsey – Til Death at 7 works out because FOX already plans on moving Sons of Tucson to air at 8:30 so the sched could look like this
7:00 Til Death
7:30 American Dad
8:00 The Simpsons
8:30 Sons of Tucson
9:00 Family Guy
9:30 The Cleveland Show
No repeats, just all episodes. I dont think FOX is interested in airing a comedy post Idol.
Actually I meant to say I believe Lie to Me will get a post Idol slot tuesdays. Fringe will stay where it is.
Neither. Glee and a new drama will get the post-idol slots. Fringe will only benefit if kept on Thursdays as Idol is 3 times a week for the time it takes to winnow down the top 24 to 12.
I don’t see Fringe being cancelled easily. It was Fox’s “Next Big Thing” last year. It seems every year they pick a show to promote the heck out of and ignore most other stuff. This year it was Glee, last year it was Fringe.
They should’ve kept Are you smarter than a 5th Grader and Don’t forget the Lyrics. Friday is the only black hole on Fox’s lineup.
To think that ABC would cancel Fringe is sheer lunacy, I don’t care what the numbers say or what color you guys make the text. No way do they cancel this show with JJ being such a hot commodity in the business ( Star Trek put him over and they won’t want to ruin their relationship with him by prematurely canceling this hyped up show ). Definitely not before the season is over and most probably not before they get another season either.
Dan,
Will ‘Til Death even acknowledge the absents of the neighbors and/or JB Smoove? I assume last Fridays episode was a Season 4 episode (recast daughter).
I meant to say FOX , not ABC..
Brad- Any quality show – that cared about its fan base – would explain characters no long er on that show. So will Til Death deal with the characters leaving? No.
FOX needs to start fresh on Fridays… I don’t know with what but at this point they could bring back When killer bees attack and still get double the ratings
Strictly based on ratings not quality, how can FOX justify keeping these shows. They would have to at least double their ratings to even get to the bubble.
I understand that syndication = lots of money. However, I still thought they needed stations/markets to want to pay to air the show in syndication?? Who and how much is someone going to pay for a show that never did well on broadcast and only made it to syndication by basically giving the show away for free?
Lie to me in green is good
I think Fox will keep Fringe on Thursday for the rest of the season, outside of Idol and House (both of which are needed elsewhere) they don’t have anything that’s going to do significantly better in the slot and for whatever reason the powers that be seem happy enough to prop up Fringe for at least a little longer so its better to feed Fringe to the lions than Lie To Me or Glee, which have the potential to be breakout hits with the right treatment. I still think Lie To Me has the potential to be the next House if Fox sticks with it and shows some patience, all the elements are there it just needs to hit its stride.
Having said that I’d be amazed if Bones wasn’t (once again) bounced around the schedule in favour of airing some Idol Thursday specials to give Fringe a boost mid season.
Elsewhere on Fox I’ve given up trying to predict what they’re going to do with Dollhouse. I’m sticking to my guns on all 13 episodes seeing the light of day but beyond that I have no freaking clue. The Friday comedies seem to be a lot easier to predict, ‘Til Death will stick around as long as Sony continues to give it away and Brothers will be yanked.
Glee and Bones are both safe baring unforeseen disasters later in the season. And all of the Animation Domination block and House are all locks for next year at this stage as well – don’t Fox already have enough episodes of Cleveland ordered to fill half of a second season? All of which leaves Fox with problems for mid season and next year.
If Human Target and Past Life both hit (and with post-Idol slots they should) and Lie To Me sticks around where the hell do they find space for new shows next year? They’re going to have enough trouble fitting the current slate of shows on at mid season….
Alex says:
“I still think Lie To Me has the potential to be the next House if Fox sticks with it and shows some patience, all the elements are there it just needs to hit its stride.”
Which elements? Obviously, some people are hanging around after House, but I don’t know anyone who persisted past two or three episodes. The A/B story format certainly doesn’t strike me as an asset.
(Oddly, Fox was running ads for LTM on the local public radio station for a couple of weeks, and I can’t imagine they helped much–”tune in to have the world’s greatest-ever prevarication expert grab you by the seat of your pants!” etc.)
Brad – Nope. In the season 3 episodes, they never explained where the Woodcocks went and in last weeks Season 4 premiere there was no explanation to what happened to JB Smoove. It was like they never existed, and thje daughter was recast for the second time. Timm Sharp has always played Doug though.
Alex – Im interested to see what will get the post Idol slot tuesdays. Its either Lie to Me or Past Life but 1 is likely to get sent to fridays at 9.
Is Lie to Me’s post House slot not considered a plum timeslot?
Maybe Fox should try to establish a second animation domination night on Friday’s. Certainly couldn’t do worse than they do now.
Til Death has never explained any of the cast members leaving the show, Joy has a new group of people that she works with every season, They never showed Season 3 episode #1, that has JB Smoothe moving in(maybe they mention them, but since Fox at that point had like 5 or 6 season 2 episode, I think Fox told them not to mention them)also what happened to Eddies original Friend, the guy on Law and Order now.
If you’re going to blacken the already-renewed shows:
-You guys posted that BONES was renewed for two more seasons earlier this year.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/16/bones-renewed-for-2009-2010-season/18779
-Same deal for THE SIMPSONS. It got picked up for seasons 21 and 22.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/the-simpsons-renewed-for-two-more-seasons-by-fox-.html
-THE CLEVELAND SHOW got picked up for a 13 episode second season before the first episode even aired.
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-fox-cleveland-show-season-2-order,0,4833947.story
-FAMILY GUY is renewed through 2012, which is old news not even worth a link.
i miss eddie and joy’s original neighbours…i thought that was the whole concept of the show….an old married couple and a young married couple….err
LTM being the next HOUSE is pretty out there.
FOX just isn’t that into the show, based on 13 episode order and not being promoted as much. There’s still alittle reservation about it.
The Mentalist broke out and this one didn’t.
It kind of reminds me alittle like Bones early seasons, just ok.
I’m sure FOX would like to be able to move LTM after this year, so it can promote something else after HOUSE, and with 24 potentially ending.
Both Fringe and Mentalist got moved this year, so LTM and NCIS:LA got there plum spots.
Brothers, Til Death and Dollhouse are all going to be canceled.
I don’t think Fringe will get a 3rd season.
Lie to Me is safe.
Your Dollhouse’s obsession is really boring.
I really hope that FRINGE doesn’t end up cancelled. I’m sure that JJ Abrams has it all planned out for the next 5 years like he did with Alias. He does something that no other television show really does…. he plans ahead. He knows everything that’s going to happen beginning middle and end, instead of just taking it week by week and seeing what happens. He also puts small resolutions in the story line–he wraps up one chapter to start another. It would be a shame for this show to be cancelled before getting a chance his complete vision.
Also, I think it would be an embarrassment for DOLLHOUSE to go down before ‘TIL DEATH. Why is that show even still on? Perhaps because ‘TIL DEATH episodes are, for the most part, stand-alones. I guess viewers just have a really hard time remembering what happened last week even with recaps. It’s a sad day when a show with a continuing story line gets canned so that mindless sitcoms can go on.
@Jenna.
I’m sorry, but did JJ really have a five year plan for Alias? It seemed like he might’ve had a plan for it but after the awesome superbowl episode, the whole show changed drastically. He made it seem like he wanted to take the show in a new direction so new viewers wouldn’t feel alienated from the already established arc from the earlier season and a half.
And you can’t tell me he had a 5 year plan for LOST. I refuse to believe that. you know they were making it up as they went along until ABC gave them an end date.
Joss on the other hand did claim he had a five year plan for Dollhouse. Epitaph One is proof of that. I do believe Fringe has a 5 year plan as well. Hope they both get to make it to that point.
Maybe move Dollhouse to Tuesdays with Idol? It could triple its ratings and actually give it exposure.
Some guy – FOX wouldnt waste a post idol slot on a failing series.
ABC fanatic – I agree with Brothers, Dollhouse, and Til Death but I have more faith that Fringe will get a third year, and if Lie to Me continues doing OK after House it will get a full year but may get shifted to fridays.
Some Guy, it’s probably too little too late for that. That strategy would’ve worked only if Fox had scheduled Dollhouse to follow Idol from the start – that way it would’ve gotten a huge spillover sampling audience from Idol and might have just been a hit. But moving Dollhouse there now serves no purpose at all – any spillover audience of new viewers it gets will just get confused about what’s going on. Dollhouse, like other heavily serialized shows, is not an easy show to jump into if you haven’t been watching from the start. That’s the reason its viewership doesn’t seem to grow. And you have to keep in mind that any new viewers would already be at least a season behind.
I remember back on the days when Veronica Mars was on and touted as the greatest thing since sliced bread, I tried several times to pick up the show and got bored to tears each time because I hadn’t watched from the start and couldn’t understand what was going on because the story arcs were so complicated. It wasn’t till I went to the trouble of getting the dvds and watching the show from the start did I appreciate it. Dollhouse, sadly, is one of those types of shows unlike a procedural you can just watch off and on. That’s why I don’t believe it’ll ever really catch on with anyone except the core audience it’s already got.
I don’t buy that JJ Abrams ever had long term plans for any of his shows. It’s obvious that after 1 season they’re written on the fly. However, Fringe unlike Alias and Lost had an awful pilot so they didn’t start out that great.
Jenna, Til Death is still on because Sony gave the episodes to Fox almost for free because they wanted to have enough episodes for syndication. Dollhouse isn’t anywhere near syndication.
Abrams definitely didn’t have a plan for Alias, or at least, he changed his mind in the middle. Look at the cliffhanger for the season finale of season 3. The ending hints that Jack has been manipulating Sydney for years. But the big revelation in the season premiere of season 4 is that Jack “killed” Sydney’s mom recently because he thought she was a danger to Sydney.
Shelly – I agree. Had FOX given Dollhouse a special post Idol premiere maybe it would be doing a little better now. However those slots were reserved for Fringe and Lie to Me.
Fox should sell Dollhouse to SyFy, where it’s ratings wouldn’t be that huge a problem, and it would benefit greatly from a friday night timeslot w/ SyFy’s other shows, or even Tuesday’s w/ Warehouse 13.
Everyone wins. Fox makes a small amount of money off of the sale, and viewers get to see the entire story arc.
Why would SyFy buy Dollhouse? They already have higher rated shows than Dollhouse, and I would expect Dollhouse ratings to plummet even further if the show is moved to a cable channel that reaches smaller audiences.
Well, it seems Nick C was wrong this time when he said that a back-nine pickup was imminent.
I hope that there will some miracle occuring on Friday so “Döllhouse” can live on. Unlikely, I know.
The Trouble with Fringe is that the show is squeezed between three hit shows esepcially in the 18-49 demo. ABC’s Grey’s Anatomy, CBS’s CSI, and even NBC’s The Office. While CSI might have ticked down in the ratings recently its still doing well enough to hang around for awhile. Grey still has a hold of 18-49 women and The Office is still top 20 if not 10 among young demos.
I don’t think Fringe will be canceled but they might want to move to another night next season. I can see it going Monday at chip away at ABC and NBC does not have a chance unless they can come with something that ticks their numbers up. CBS will be hard to take out now with Chuck Lorie’s sitcoms taking that hour.
Fox wouldn’t and shouldn’t just back away from Thursday nights because other channels have a powerhouse night.
They put Fringe there because they know it’s a strong show, and it’s the only way they can compete at all on the night.
They could also put 24 there next year… that could help their numbers!
Eric (Ohio) – That would likely hurt 24’s ratings, FOX knows it dominates in the slot that its always been in. FOX wants to be competitive on thursdays so they will leave Bones and Fringe in their respective slots all season.
@Jenna, in regards to JJ Abrams:
Not so much, no. They’ve already gone on record as saying that the parallel dimension in Fringe wasn’t planned to be revealed until Season 3.
So if someone is wondering why Fringe seemed so great in the second half of last year – that’s because they compressed two and a half seasons of mythos into those ~8 episodes (and largely cut out the monster-of-the-week episodes to make room).
(Abrams has had nothing to do with Lost since the first half of Season 1. And Alias had quite a bit of plot rearrangement as well, mainly due to pregnancies and the like.)
In regards to all the comments about cheap FOX got “Til Death,” you get what you pay for. And in some cases, less. Did Sony give back the license fees FOX paid for those 15 episodes that got flushed down the crapper because Kevin Reilly is the most wasteful network programmer to ever come down the pike? (As far as any explanation of Smoove’s disappearance, well, he certainly taped an awful lot of episodes last season which didn’t make it on the air, but since this show has no continuity whatsoever, I can’t imagine they bothered to explain it. Even though he couldn’t act worth a lick and the character would have been offensive back in 1955, I am kind of surprised he’s gone, given the lead-in this season.)
Okay, I’ve officially run out of show-saving ideas. Only thing I can come up with at this point is that Joss Whedon should start his own network and put whatever he likes on it. Trouble is, I have a feeling the average lemonade stand would make more money than this network. Sorry, Joss! I really did love Buffy the Vampire Slayer (before the horrible 4th season) and Angel (before the horrible Angel/Cordy pairing) and Firefly (not the horrible Heart of Gold episode). I will always wish you well.
“Which elements? Obviously, some people are hanging around after House, but I don’t know anyone who persisted past two or three episodes. The A/B story format certainly doesn’t strike me as an asset.”
When I say Lie To Me has the potential to be the ‘next House’ its has nothing to with the timeslot or even the promotion of the show, its all about the creative set up of the show which is also why I think the House/Lie To Me combo is a brilliant idea that Fox should stick with even at the expense of 24. Unfortunately they won’t.
If you look back at the early days of House it was very focused on the ‘disease of the week’ concept and the idea that it should be a medical mystery show but as the characters became bedded in the ‘disease of the week’ concept faded into the background in favour of character arcs and the character interactions. Nobodies watching House for the medical mysteries they’re watching House for House and the rest of the cast. I think Lie To Me has the exact same potential, even the A/B story set up doesn’t worry me because again look at House and how the clinic cases have been reduced dramatically in recent times.
Lie To Me I think has the same potential to be for lack of a better description a character driven procedural where the stories aren’t as important as the characters and their interactions at which point the B stories can be phased out a little. Lie To Me has the potential to grow into a big hit if Fox are patient with it.
Does anybody know if filming would just stop if/when Dollhouse is canceled? Or is Fox contractually obligated to finish filming the 13 episodes?
Lie to Me should be considered a plum timeslot, even with the competition.
Am I the only one hoping against all odds and indicators that Dollhouse gets renewed?
Brothers was a shockingly funny sit-com. Way better than Do Not Disturb or ‘Til Death. Still, it’s good it’s getting canned.
Alex says:
“Nobodies watching House for the medical mysteries…”
I wouldn’t go *that* far: http://www.politedissent.com/house_pd.html
“Lie To Me I think has the same potential to be for lack of a better description a character driven procedural where the stories aren’t as important as the characters and their interactions at which point the B stories can be phased out a little. Lie To Me has the potential to grow into a big hit if Fox are patient with it.”
This indeed is the crux of the matter. The proposition does depend on the audience being willing to sample the program, though. It would seem that at some point, House will have exhausted its ability to induce this outcome, so I’m not so sure that “24″ per se is apropos.
Even though Fringe is in “Orange”, it has a ZERO chance of being cancelled.
Dollhouse, who knows?? Trying to apply the normal rules to this show is pointless.
~Lanie~
Lanie Grace says:
“Even though Fringe is in ‘Orange’, it has a ZERO chance of being cancelled.
“Dollhouse, who knows?? Trying to apply the normal rules to this show is pointless.”
Uh-huh.
Lanie Grace says:
August 29th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
“Dollhouse will Rock the Grindhouse with Summer Glau in it and will get a renewal for a back set of episodes.”
I take it the “normal rules” are limited to describing the odd case in which you happen to blunder into a correct prognostication.
Just watcvhed DollHouse tonight and it was the best yet. My sister watched for the first time and loved it also. They need to use Victor more and Echo less the show works better. Previews look great for future shows and I hope the ratings are up for them tonight.
C’mon, 0.6/2, baby needs a new pair of shoes.
Too low, Boris. 0.7.
I’m just hoping for 2.50 Million and 0.9 demos! Not amazing, but still a step up from last week!
Julia says:
“Too low, Boris. 0.7.”
If only the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists “got it,” there would be no need for speculation.
Isn’t it a sad commentary on FOX’s more “successful” programming, according to the list, when its five strongest shows are 6-year-old House followed by four cartoons, one of which is two decades old?
Wy, American Idol is Fox’s most successful programming, but it’s no spring chicken either, but Fox is hardly unique.
In general, there are no new, big broadcast TV hits. If they’re new, they’re not big. If they’re big, they’re not new.
Although maybe Big Bang Theory is the closest thing out there. It’s in its third season, and it’s big. I can’t think of another example.
Bones is safe since it was renewed for 2 seasons, earlier this year!
Saw a post from someone at whedonesque who, based on his posting history seems to have some knowledge of Fox’s thinking, that the next 2 Episodes of Dollhouse will be aired.
I’m hopeful that that is true and that this morning’s numbers don’t give them any reason to rethink that.
Last night’s episode was superb but I don’t hold out much hope for good ratings because presumably it’s always the previous episode that controls the ratings for the next. That said, unlike the previous episode, they did actually take the time to explain the set-up at the beginning of the show, so people casually leaving the TV on at 9 coming in from The Cleveland Show (sorry, getting my bad TV sitcoms mixed up) might not have been completely lost and might possibly slightly maybe have decided to watch the rest of it.
I’m going to go with a 0.8. Slightly down on last week, but with the better “first five minutes” and with Dushku doing the talk show circuit this week (albeit only two shows, and with Jimmy Fallon being the only one where they discussed the show – and who the hell watches Jimmy Fallon? Aside from people who want to watch him get his ass kicked. Which Dushku did. So it might have worked. Maybe), it might not have fallen as far as it could have done.
@Bill Gorman So the thought is Glee is getting the after Idol slot on Wednesday, but Lie to Me may get Tuesday after Idol slot? Thanks!