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| Rating: Adults 18-49 | 3.6/10 | 3.1/8 | 2.8/8 | 2.0/5 | 1.4/4 | 1.0/3 |
| Rating: Adults 18-34 | 2.3/7 | 2.3/7 | 2.7/8 | 1.3/4 | 1.7/5 | 1.3/4 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 16.452 | 8.111 | 6.378 | 8.343 | 3.726 | 1.874 |
CBS won again on Tuesday night in the adults 18-49 demo ratings, but their numbers are slipping back towards the competition’s.
CBS was still the 18-49 winner on Tuesday night, but its margin of victory is narrowing as its ratings fell across the board while NBC’s held steady, and Fox’s ticked up a tenth vs. last Tuesday. Fox jumped ahead of CBS in the adults 18-34 demo for the night, as the network further entrenched itself as an 18-34 power this fall.
At 8pm, NCIS fell 13% in the 18-49 demo from last week to a 4,2 rating. Hell’s Kitchen was up 3% vs. last week in the 18-49 demo (3.2 rating vs. 3.1). Biggest Loser and Shark Tank were all effectively flat in the 18-49 ratings vs. last week in the hour. 90210 was up a tenth of a ratings point in adults 18-49, and stable in the CW target women 18-34 (2.4 rating).
At 9pm, NCIS:LA slipped to a 3.6 18-49 rating for the hour, putting it behind Biggest Loser’s 9pm hour which averaged a 3.9 18-49 rating. So You Think You Can Dance was up 4% in the 18-49 demo from last week (2.5 vs. 2.4 18-49 rating). Dancing With the Stars continues to suffer, falling to a 2.5 18-49 demo rating, its lowest ever for a regularly scheduled episode. Like 90210, Melrose Place was up a tenth in the 18-49 demo to a 0.9 rating, and stable with women 18-34 (1.5 rating).
At 10pm, The Good Wife was down 9% in the 18-49 demo from last week to a 2.9 rating, but since NCIS:LA fell further, the retentionistas will celebrate because its “retention” improved. Huh? The Jay Leno Show slipped to a 2.1 demo rating, its lowest on a Tuesday, but that was still enough to beat the forgotten, which was effectively flat vs. last Tuesday with a 2.0 18-49 rating.
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating | 18-49 Share | Viewers Live+SD (million) |
| 8:00 | CBS | NCIS | 4.0 | 12 | 19.165 |
| NBC | The Biggest Loser | 3.2 | 9 | 8.374 | |
| FOX | Hell’s Kitchen | 3.0 | 9 | 6.907 | |
| ABC | Shark Tank | 1.4 | 4 | 5.266 | |
| CW | 90210 | 1.2 | 3 | 2.218 | |
| 8:30 | CBS | NCIS | 4.3 | 12 | 20.528 |
| FOX | Hell’s Kitchen | 3.5 | 9 | 7.599 | |
| NBC | The Biggest Loser | 3.4 | 9 | 8.745 | |
| ABC | Shark Tank | 1.6 | 4 | 5.576 | |
| CW | 90210 | 1.2 | 3 | 2.162 | |
| 9:00 | NBC | The Biggest Loser | 3.8 | 10 | 9.377 |
| CBS | NCIS: Los Angeles | 3.7 | 10 | 16.566 | |
| FOX | So You Think You Can Dance? | 2.5 | 7 | 5.563 | |
| ABC | Dancing With the Stars | 2.4 | 6 | 11.502 | |
| CW | Melrose Place | 0.9 | 2 | 1.606 | |
| 9:30 | NBC | The Biggest Loser | 4.1 | 10 | 9.773 |
| CBS | NCIS: Los Angeles | 3.6 | 9 | 15.702 | |
| ABC | Dancing With the Stars | 2.6 | 7 | 12.096 | |
| FOX | So You Think You Can Dance? | 2.4 | 6 | 5.441 | |
| CW | Melrose Place | 0.8 | 2 | 1.512 | |
| 10:00 | CBS | The Good Wife | 3.0 | 8 | 13.738 |
| NBC | The Jay Leno Show | 2.2 | 6 | 6.529 | |
| ABC | the forgotten | 2.1 | 6 | 8.328 | |
| 10:30 | CBS | The Good Wife | 2.8 | 8 | 13.015 |
| NBC | The Jay Leno Show | 2.0 | 6 | 5.867 | |
| ABC | the forgotten | 1.8 | 5 | 7.288 |
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Late night results direct from NBC:
In Late-Night Local People Meters Tuesday night:
Conan O’Brien (0.9/4 in 18-49 in local people meters) trailed CBS’s LATE SHOW (1.1/5) in Nielsen’s 24 local markets with People Meters. Conan topped LATE SHOW in adults 18-34 (0.8/4 vs. 0.5/2).
At 12:35 a.m., Jimmy Fallon (0.6/4 in 18-49 in local people meters) tied CBS’s LATE LATE SHOW (0.6/4). Jimmy out-delivered Ferguson in 18-34 (0.5/4 vs. 0.2/2).
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You can see TV ratings from other recent Overnight ratings reports here.
Definitions:
*Fast Affiliate Ratings: These first national ratings, including demographics, are available at approximately 11 AM (ET) the day after telecast, and are released to subscribing customers daily. These data, from the National People Meter sample, are strictly time-period information, based on the normal broadcast network feed, and include all programming on the affiliated stations, sometimes including network programming, sometimes not. The figures may include stations that did not air the entire network feed, as well as local news breaks or cutaways for local coverage or other programming. Fast Affiliate ratings are not as useful for live programs and are likely to differ significantly from the final results, because the data reflect normal broadcast feed patterns. For example, with a World Series game, Fast Affiliate Ratings would include whatever aired from 8-11PM on affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone, following the live football game, but not game coverage that begins at 5PM PT. The same would be true of Presidential debates as well as live award shows and breaking news reports.
Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.
Share (of Audience): The percent of households (or persons) using television who are tuned to a specific program, station or network in a specific area at a specific time. (See also, Rating, which represents tuning or viewing as a percent of the entire population being measured.)
Time Shifted Viewing – Program ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.
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Can we delete any comment that claims to be first? Please?
i suppose that 7.87 million viewers on the cw is actually 1.87???
DWTS is so weak right now.
Dawn must be happy that Melrose Place’s ratings did not drop any further.
Kudos to The Good Wife pretty consistent with their 13 million viewers, I hope it will rise in the demo and viewers next week.
*Hopes there are no more puns about The Forgotten being forgotten this season*
Congratulations to NBC on “The Biggest Loser”, it obviously isn’t for the Peacock network.
NCIS: Los Angeles cooled but its still a keeper.
hmm, the forgotten’s numbers make Castle’s look better, but guess we have to wait to see how Eastwick does
but on a happy note, Glee tonight!!
The ratings slipped a bit, look at those numbers for CBS that is still super solid, and Biggest Loser barely beat them in the demo, but NCIS: Los Angeles had almost double the viewers. I am sure we will see some lower numbers these next few weeks due to playoffs. The Minnesota Twins game went into 12 innings and into prime time last night.
I will admit that I have yet to watch The Good Wife as of yet, but The Forgotten seems to be both well written along with having adequate to good actors. I’m not certain why this show isn’t receiving better ratings. Flash Forward is a little better, but the Forgotten is a really good series. I have a bad feeling it will be cancelled before a full season, much like ABC did last year with Life on Mars. At least then ABC allowed the writers to mostly tie up the story. My fear with the Forgotten is that it will just disappear and loyal viewers will never know the fate of his missing daughter.
Couple of surprises from last night as I see it:
- NCIS:LA is not the mega hit everyone thought it would be loosing to Biggest Looser. BL is really a power house growing week over week, hour after hour. Think BL has a shot at beating NCIS in demo at some point?
- A weak Shark Tank impacting DWTS and probably forgotten
- CW tying 18-34 with ABC has to be some sort of victory for poor CW, right? Maybe it says more about ABC than it does about CW.
- Leno beating forgotten two weeks running and proving he can beat new shows, wait until reruns
- Low numbers for SYTYCD, but still taking hits off DWTS. Maybe people are getting tired of so many dancing related shows.
Wow Go NBC biggest loser performed quite well…
Berman just called The Jay Leno Show “a definite failure.” That is why I love Robert and Bill.
Was there slightly more DWTS overrun than usual in The Forgotten? Dropped 1 mil in the half hour, vs. only 500k last week. Or did viewers indeed see all the promotion and gave it a shot – and still found it wanting.
(Still waiting on that Monday Forgotten airing. ABC needs to get moving if they want that scheduled before Sweeps.)
Your claims that Biggest Loser starts slow are indeed born out! For all out carping that NBC should turn this into two one hours on different nights, imagine how their ratings would look if they had.
Curious to find out where NCIS:LA settles. Consensus is the show doesn’t have the spark as the mothership, and needs to develop some hook. I bet there’s some tonal changes made come January.
MP repeat has no real effect on MP’s viewers. Is anyone surprised?
I don’t even watch or care about NCIS: LA, but it’s still clinging to around the numbers NCIS and The Mentalist put up last year, plus it comes from the line of JAG and NCIS, both growers not showers. CBS has got to be ok with this even though it might have irrationally hoped for more for The Good Wive’s sake.
Not to mention how the other three would shit their pants in delight had their new shows started out with the ratings LA has fallen to now.
Marc Berman has been saying that Leno would be a failure since Day one. Obviously Leno hasn’t been high in the overall ratings but it’s getting the demo, on average, that NBC says they are happy with.
CBS certainly took a dip last night. Did baseball have that much of an effect? The night is still solid though and I don’t think CBS is worried.
It’s nice that NBC has at least one non-sports night they can celebrate. Biggest Loser is the one bright light in their line up this year.
FOX stayed fairly steady from last week. Hell’s Kitchen is up a tick and Dance is down a tick.
ABC….Tuesday is for ABC what Sunday is for CBS.
Yeah, Berman’s obsession with retention would have him seeing Leno’s 53% retention as an abject failure.
I see Leno (with its pathetic budget) topping a freaking Bruckheimer production and wonder aloud at how Berman can willfully ignore reality to such a degree.
Bye bye Melrose Place.
“Bye bye Melrose Place.”
Err, it’s not going anywhere for at least five months, you do realize that, right?
DWTS is getting rapped, SYTYCD as the same numbers… wonder how AI will do…
I wonder if the sudden-death MLB playoff game had some impact.
The forgotten is going to be history shortly. When Jay Leno beats the forgotten in the ratings I like the start of the show but the show sucks.
I was wonder how long it take before people started to change channels after NCIS the LA NCIS needs major work. LL can not act and should be dropped some major cast changes are needed and needs to have a more realistic tone. Last night NCIS was in charge of a terroist investagation. What happened to homeland security? the show is living on the NCIS Name if not I think this show would be much lower in the ratings becuase it is lacking.
NCIS LA will keep declining, it simply doesn’t “work”. It’s not a question of whether I personally like the show, there are lots of shows I don’t watch (like say GA or DH) that one viewing makes it obvious they work. But NCIS: LA is a lot like Parks and Recreation, something people are giving a lot of goodwill but it just wasn’t constructed right and is going to fall apart.
Having said that, I don’t think it will ever totally bomb, given the name. It will probably go down to about 12-13m over the next few months and then get a new timeslot and Mentalist put back behind NCIS in the spring.
As always, just my opinion.
Post updating is substantially finished with history/trend analysis included.
ABC has to be absolutely SCREAMING that DWTS has fallen this low in 18-49 demos. They were at about a 4.0 last season right?
I still say that Tuesday is mostly a wasteland for TV (I don’t watch NCIS). I feel that a lot of Thursday shows would do better on this night because there is NOTHING on! My DVR sits empty on Tuesdays but I have to prioritize for Thursday.
Exactly, over 16 million viewers still puts you in the top 4 even 3 for the whole week, solid numbers. Any other network would kill for those numbers. DWTS is on a downslope, must be a good season for Biggest Loser. If NCIS: Los Angeles can maintain around 16 million CBS has got to be happy. Also NCIS has a huge following and is going against Shark Tank which is totally tanking. The Good Wife is still pulling in good numbers for a 10pm show, the CSI’s all pull about those numbers at 10pm.
That’s Berman in his “suck up to Hollywood” mode.
SYTYCD is falling apart.
Ron, SYTYCD was up and tied DWTS. What are you smoking?
Do you know 18-34 demo for CW?
Tom- VERY good points about the Jay situation. But I wouldn’t expect Berman to change his turn, no matter what. Heaven forbid he admit is was wrong!
Ron- No it isn’t. FOX is VERY happy with its results. What were you referring to?
Wow!! 7.87 for The CW!!!
(I can’t believe it!! ha ha!)
MP needs to kick up them ratings, hopefully Heather will do the job. Its good its stopped falling though and leveled out and it raised a fraction in the demos.
Also the DVR seems to put MP, 90210 and VD very high pushing MP well over 2 million viewers.
Tom, would ABC really bother plugging The Forgotten into Castle’s timeslot for even one night? I see no reason why it would beat Leno that night and not Tuesdays.
I do wonder how Castle would do on Tuesday nights though.
I think Jay Leno’s show IS a failure. It’s already dipped below the 1.5 threshold twice, once just two nights ago. AND, despite the protestations here, it is bringing down the rest of NBC’s shows, AND the ratings of the affiliates’ local news shows.
It’s only a matter of time until NBC (or its new controlling owner–Comcast?) pull the plug.
So since THE GOOD WIFE is the first thing I’ve enjoyed in CBS’s Tuesday-at-10 timeslot since the departure of JUDGING AMY, I’m curious: how do GOOD WIFE’s demos stack up to the last few months of JUDGING AMY? Anyone know how AMY was doing its last few months on the air? I confess, I don’t even know if it was hitting a 2.8 or a 2.0; I’m curious to know what figures CBS has been unable to match or better in the last four years, or what its “bar” is for Tuesday at 10.
Boo the good wife is sooooo good!!!!! My guilty pleasure
@Todd Speaks I agree, The Forgotten is well written and I am afraid that ABC will cancel it because it’s not pulling in the ratings/demos it wants. Such a shame, because last nights episode was beautiful. It even made my dad cry.
NCIS kicked serious ass with more than 20 million viewers. That’s the kind of “slip” in the ratings every program should strive for in the biz. Biggest Loser is an entertaining show. Leno is bombing big-time. Admit it NBC.
As Nattanop pointed out, that 7.87 million average for the CW on the night was a typo.
Great #’s for NCIS again, sub-4 for NCIS2, sub-3 for one of only 3 new shows critics deem good this season along with Glee and Modern Family. I wonder if NCIS will end up the best drama for the net and if NCIS2>Mentalist. Bang seems to have a heavy lead overall.
Loser builds each half-hour from good to greatness, even beating CBS half the time. Leno still gets relatively good #’s and is 2nd place. Well, NBC has two days of success and rest of the week of mostly-fail (Thursday’s single half-hour success is weighed vs. the rest of the fail-y night.).
Hell’s good, Dance is ok.
ABC & likely CW fails.
DWTS needs to cast A, B or C list celebrities to boost some interest in this waning show. This season’s list of D-list and E-list “stars” makes it a giant snoozer.
Kevin the overall 18-34 demo for the CW is in the top table. They averaged a 1.9 rating for women 18-34 on the night.
I’m still disappointed that there’s nothing I like to watch on Tuesday nights! And I agree Julia, any post that claims to be a number should be auto-deleted!
Bill or rob two questions. 1 do u guys no if mental and great American road trip merlin and philanthropist is cancelled?? 2 how come fox might cancel dollhouse after the baseball game wats so special about cancelling it after??
DWTS is lackluster this season–ratings-wise and dance-wise. Muppetgate and Delay foot issues are making news and not the competition itself. ABC may have tapped all the “stars” willing to embarass themselves for what ABC is willing/able to pay. Probably should relegate this show to an occasional special rather than series.
Sean, for me that night is Monday. Monday is my big “Well, I guess I’ll rent a DVD or read a book tonight” night cause Mondays SUCK.
Tuesdays, at least I have Hell’s Kitchen (for now). But once it’s over, yeah, it will another wasteland. My big nights are Wed & Thurs and Sun.
On those nights there’s almost too much on!
Sean: Try NCIS its fun to watch, and everyone who says its like CSI and those other crappy procedurals out there, never really watched it!
Meant to write DWTS.
ABC – Shark Tank is tanking but it will be gone in 2 weeks, so hopefully V will do better in November. Dancing with the Stars is down at 9. The Forgotten isnt doing great, if it keeps gradually declining it should be gone by December.
CBS – Though both NCIS’s and Good Wife slipped, this should confirm that soon NCIS LA will get a full season, and The Good Wife will get additional episodes ordered or a full season.
FOX – Hell’s Kitchen at least has risen in viewers. Looks like they will rethink their SYTYCD strategy for next year, maybe stick to summer.
NBC – The Biggest Loser rose in viewers from 8-10, and seems to be the only thing going well for NBC.
CW – 90210 & Melrose are doing pretty badly.
Vinny – Road Trip is currently on hiatus, but Mental, Merlin and The Philanthropist are all cancelled.
Dan, since I trust you to know all things, I posed earlier: “So since THE GOOD WIFE is the first thing I’ve enjoyed in CBS’s Tuesday-at-10 timeslot since the departure of JUDGING AMY, I’m curious: how do GOOD WIFE’s demos stack up to the last few months of JUDGING AMY? Anyone know how AMY was doing its last few months on the air? I confess, I don’t even know if it was hitting a 2.8 or a 2.0; I’m curious to know what figures CBS has been unable to match or better in the last four years, or what its “bar” is for Tuesday at 10.” Any ideas?
Can someone explain something to me?
On this website, everyone always bemoans or mocks the CW’s numbers when they are low “oh my god look how low 90210′s ratings are”, etc.
Don’t you guys use a different sort of judgement basis when it comes to The CW? I mean, what would be a huge bomb for NBC or CBS isn’t that bad a rating for the CW.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t the CW and UPN & The WB ALWAYS had these type of really low numbers?
I mean, hasn’t the CW’s traditionally highest rated show (America’s Next Top Model) still been lower than even the lowest-rated network
shows?
I don’t really understand why every Wednesday people read off 90210 & Melrose’s numbers like oh my god they are so shockingly low.
It’s THE CW, people!
So the Jay Leno Show being a failure is so untrue-
From a business standpoint it is a great success- NBC promised advertisers an average of a 1.5 rating in the demo- They are getting a higher average than that-
With this being said… NBC is making upwards of $150million for the year with the ratings being an average of 1.5-
FAILURE? I do not think so-
It is a cheap show to produce, about 1/10th of a budget for a show like “Heroes” or “Flash Forward”
So believe me it is not a failure- Some critics have never been a fan of JAY for some reason and they continue to attempt to bring him down- But hey NBC is laughing to the bank as the Jay Leno Show is concerned-
@TommyK,
Judging Amy’s were probably significantly higher than The Good Wife, but that comparison would definitely be a violation of the Gunsmoke Rule
“The Gunsmoke Rule”: No comparing the ratings of any individual show this season to a show in any season except the previous one. “How could CBS have canceled Gunsmoke, for some dreck like CSI? Gunsmoke pulled a 40 rating in 1960!“
Basically, broadcast network ratings have been going down steadily for many years as cable becomes more and more prevalent, so shows with ratings that are considered solid today would have been canceled with those same ratings 5 years ago.
Sean G, Julia, I agree. All First! posts will be deleted when I see them.
Alan – Actually The WB and UPN got around 3-6 million and if a show aired with 2 million that would be considered low. So Melrose getting 1.5 million is still really bad for The CW. It would be considered bad for cable networks.
TommyK – I’m not sure how Judging Amy was doing but the general thought is that Amy was getting old so CBS axed it and it was replaced with another courtroom series Close to Home. Since then CBS has had multiple problems with scheduling new series in that 10pm slot. However I think the Good Wife is doing better in the demos than Amy did in 2005. Its possibly thanks to both NCIS series being strong. Every year CBS schedules a new series for 10 and has aired NCIS at 8. The problem is that whatever aired at 9pm (The Unit) would always have a big drop, and then the new series that aired at 10 had a big drop too. So CBS would axe that series after 3 eps. Last season CBS solved their 10pm problem by airing veteran Without a Trace their which helped because Trace has always been strong and the combo of NCIS and The Mentalist worked out very well. Of every new series that aired at 10, Love Monkey, 3 lbs, and Smith lasted 3 episodes, Threshold lasted 1 episode (after being moved), Cane lasted a full 13 episode season (likely due to lack of programming from the strike), Trace and Jericho aired their final seasons there, and Secret Talents of the stars only lasted 1 episode before getting pulled. My guess is that The Good Wife will last a full season but may get replaced with Miami Trauma in March.
Dan, Fox is the only network ahead in the adult demos vs. last season after two weeks. Seems to me their strategy is working just fine. I will have the post up later today.
Well, well, well…
Bill and Seidman owe me a massive apology for deleting my “Castle” post on Monday. (What is this..the Bush/Cheney White House?)
I labeled “Castles” Monday night numbers as a huge “LOSER” due to losing a huge portion of the DWTS’s lead-in…
But not B.S. (stands for Bill and Seidman)
No they were touting it a hit…even though at that time of day “Castle” had lost over 40 percent of the DWTS’s demo and audience…
But it got worse for “Castle” and B.S….as they day wore on when its adjusted numbers brought it to a dismal 2.2 “Leno-like” demo.
See..TV-philes..the idea is when you have one of the great lead-ins in TV..in DWTS…you want to follow it with a show that DOES NOT turn the lead-in audience away in droves…
Dont feel too bad ABC development…you are failing the DWTS lead-in just as bad as the Fox development nitwits do with A.I.
CBS rules…another great night…but…The Good Wife stinks…wont last…there is no arc for this show..who cares…I’d rather they re-write “The Good Wife” to revolve around Regina Lasko and my main man ..hound dog/down boy…David Letterman. Regina was an assistant on Dave’s show too..so she aint no angel either.
ABC’s “The Forgotten”…bonehead ABC president took The Forgotten from Bruckheimer and said it had the potential to be a franchise hit…and McPherson gets paid for this…haha…”The Forgotten” is pure garbage.
Regards,
Big Bill Halderman
PS: TV-philes cheer up…I read Obama’s gonna extend unemployment benefits.
Holly – I agree, Judging Amy ended 4 years ago, but as compared to recent seasons 10pm averages and how new series fared in that slot, Id say The Good Wife is doing pretty good. I dont see CBS axing this one this they will already have a drama axed in a couple of weeks (Three Rivers).
Alan, we do exactly that in our CW Renew/Cancel Posts, rate CW show futures only vs. other CW shows.
I know this web site is all about the numbers, but c’mon just a dinky little slip by NCIS LA and The Good Wife and everyone is going “OMG, those shows are in trouble.” I mean IMO ratings are like a earthquake richter scale, there will be highs and lows. NCIS LA and Good Wife are still doing very well.
As for Melrose Place, it’s still holding up for the last few weeks, so as long as it doesn’t drop anymore, I think we will definitely see those 6 script orders produced to actual episodes or even a full season.
I actually think the forgotten is a pretty good procedural drama. I don’t understand why it’s not catching on.
Bill – I guess thats good for SYTYCD then. I know that they are up thursdays with Bones and Fringe. Once Idol comes back, midseason should get better for FOX. I’m pretty sure Lie to Me will get a full year though.
Dan, Holly: thanks! (I was unaware of The Gunsmoke Rule…) My suspicion too, Dan, is that GOOD WIFE is actually doing better in the 18-49 demo than AMY was when it was canceled; I confess my memory stinks, but I keep thinking AMY was averaging around a 2.8 vs. SVU’s 3.8. (I do not remember, though, as you said, Dan, what AMY’s lead-in was during its final season — was it THE UNIT even back then? — and how that might have impacted its ratings.)
Don J – CW on average has been dropping season after season. Melrose will get a full year because of the 90210 hype, and if CW axes Melrose it may hurt the interest in 90210 altogether. It seems since Boston legal, ABC couldnt launch a good performing Tuesday 10pm series. I think The Forgotten will be gone by December. With so many midseaosn options, this show will be “forgotten” by January (pun intended). I’m kind of surprised that Glee is the only show renewed for a full year. I think by now CW would have given Vampire Diaries a full season, and it may take a week or two but NBC should give Community a full year. Within the week I hope to see full seasons from Flashforward and NCIS: LA with Modern Family and Cougar Town likely renewed by months end.
TommyK – No, The Unit didnt even premiere until March 2006, a year after Amy ended. Amazing Race was Amy’s lead in which was OK. Actually The Unit airing at 9 seemed like the series that brought down Smith, Love Monkey and Cane. It did well enough in the timeslot but it didnt help out the 10pm series enough.
We’ve been with Jay for a long time, but it’s now time to part ways. America so much wanted to love the new Leno, as his first week ratings show. It has all the bells and whistles. It has the star, it has the guests and music. So what’s wrong? Just what I said the first week. Viewers will only take so much smutty humor before late night before they tune out.
There’s an invisible line of good taste, and someone on the show, whether it be Jay or writers or producers, has crossed it. It’s just not worth sitting through the trash to get to Jaywalking or Headlines or the guy who sings at the car wash.
Everyone adores Jay, but basically, folks will only eat so much of Grama’s stew before they just have to say, “I love you, Grama, but you just can’t cook!”.
BillHalderman says:
“CBS rules…another great night…but…The Good Wife stinks…wont last…there is no arc for this show..who cares…I’d rather they re-write ‘The Good Wife’ to revolve around Regina Lasko and my main man ..hound dog/down boy…David Letterman. Regina was an assistant on Dave’s show too..so she aint no angel either.”
I love the smell of emily24 sock puppet in the afternoon.
Im done with NCIS L.A. I don’t like any of the Characters(well maybe they just need Real Actors to portray them) also the Story lines stink. Simply the show needs a total makeover.
Interesting to see the numbers for BL and Leno. The first week it was supposed that viewers were tuning into BL just waiting for Leno, but time seems to be proving otherwise. Viewers from other shows are joining in on BL as their first show ends, keeping tabs on what’s happening there. Ratings will climb as the season progresses, as BL has a quality about it that’s a lot more than a weight loss guru show. It is a study of the human spirit…good, bad, heros, villains and overcoming the odds when the deck is stacked against you. Who hasn’t been there in one way or another? The nice thing here is that we can root for everyone, ’cause they’re all winners.
It’s annoying how this site picks on Castle every Monday. It did better than many shows.
Didn’t Close to Home wind up on Fridays at 9?
Uh, both columns read “18-49″, and I’m not smart enuff to know which is which without a proper heading.
MP is doing as bad as BTL. So it means that BTL’s early cancellation wasn’t fair?? i think that the cw’s problem is taht they suck on promoting the shows!
@Daniel,
The first column is the 18-49 rating–that is the percentage of people 18-49 in the US who were watching the show.
The second column is the 18-49 share—that is the percentage of people 18-49 who were watching TV at the time that were watching the show.
@ Boris
So true. Did he/she really not think that we would know it was him/her? He/she used the exact same phrases, for crying out loud.
NCIS LA will be a flop. Awful acting and they are trying to sell slick rather than good story lines. Everybody is too cool on that show. Expect that to drop. When it can’t beat a reality show about fat people, it’s time to put a fork in it. The Good Wife is a good show but with a crap lead in CBS will have to move it somewhere that makes sense. Just do better writing meaning that it’s probably best to keep the ‘victim wife’ mentality to a minimum and focus on the court stuff and this show can hang in there. Even women don’t want to see more ‘female victim’ storylines too much. Let Lifetime and Oxygen have that image and build a show with a strong female character and ‘Wife’ could win. It wins its time period with not much competition so that’s a good thing.
NCIS does its variation of the Hitchcock “Strangers on The Train” that
Castle did last week, even though it wasn’t as interesting as Castle’s
version, NCIS remains a ratings monster.
NCIS:LA is not flopping. Maybe quality-wise you are right (haven’t seen one ep), but the numbers are saying it’s staying put.
Heck, if the CSI spinoff Miami can survive and thrive with Caruso doing the weekly shtick of “I’m going to say something corny in a dry tone, and then put on my sunglasses” for these many seasons, LA will be fine!
Biggest Losers is a good reality show because many viewers can really benefit from its insipiration, comraderie, and guidance. I know people who don’t need to lose weight, who watch the show because they like the message of the show.
It looks like Leno is dependent for 2-3 ratings (A18-49) points on its lead-in show. Leno is doing well for NBC. What are doing poorly are ABC’s Castle, The Forgotten, Eastwick, and The Good Wife may be headed that way, too. The 10 o’clock slot is murder because it has the added competition of all the DVRd shows from earlier in the night.
So who will cranky old Letterman apologize to next week? This past Monday he milked his little lurid workplace problem for more ratings by apologizing to his wife. Next on the list should be his son, then his mother, then his advertisers, then his bosses at CBS, then his audience, then his viewers, then his neighbors, the people he buys lunches from, and so on. An apology a week and in 52 weeks, Conan’s ratings will be dust. The ones Letterman really needs to apologize to are his male employees. He is the boss, but he is not giving his male employees equal opportunities to get ahead.
I think Melrose may have found its bottom.
Thanks dan does the place were u got it from say any other cancelled shows??
Why did emily change her name to Bill Halderman?
emily24, you’re so ridiculous. You keep changing your name, yet the language, the mood, the snarky, the I-think-I’m-funny-but-I’m-not attitude, it’s EXACTLY the same.
“Shark Tank” is pretty enjoyable- too bad it ratings aren’t anything to celebrate.
I wonder if anyone at CBS is starting to consider the possibility that Leno might be able to beat The Good Wife…?
Sure the gap is still pretty big but it no longer feels completely impossible that Leno might win a night. If Biggest Loser continues to provide a 4+ in the last half hour and The Good Wife continues to slip the gap at 10PM is going to continue to close. On a scale of one to ten just how embarrassing could this be for CBS? Its got to be a solid 9 at least, right?
Elsewhere ABC are having a horrible night. A really horrible night. The forgotten is now gone the question isn’t if but when. And Christian Slatter’s television batting average isn’t good is it! Dancing is getting hammered by NCIS and Biggest Loser and if I remember rightly by So You Think You Can Dance in the female demo. And then there’s Shark Tank. It says something about Tuesday night’s for ABC that its not out of the question that Scrubs and Better Off Ted might actually improve the average for the night…
Both NCIS’ have slipped a little but are still doing very well and NBC had their one good night of the week.
Shark tank has a tough slot to fill…. Those other 3 shows are/have been ratings juggernauts for sometime…
The forgotten is done like i said two weeks ago.
The new standard will be if Leno beats you = CANCELLATION
the mentalist probably could have gotten atleast in the 18 millions and in the high 3.0 18-49 demo but i guess it was a smart move to put it on thursdays
I think NBC may wish to reconsider their schedule for Tuesday Post-Olympics and keep Biggest Loser as a two-hour show and move the comedy that was to air at 930pm to Thursday to replace Parks and Rec.
Looking at the audiences and demos for Jay Leno and The Forgotten it would seem that the Forgotten skews older than Leno. The DWTS numbers also skew quite old, maybe Tuesday is ABC’s CBS night.
The CW could have a crime show with 18-34 staff. They need to have more variety and stop with the teen soap formula! Tuesday is pretty bad for them & ouch for ABC.
the ratings were affected by the baseball game last night. Here is the numbers just from Minnesota.
The Twins’ 6-5 victory over Detroit in a one-game playoff Tuesday had a 27.1 rating in the Twin Cities on TBS, meaning 469,000 households watched on the cable network.
In Detroit the game had a 24.6 rating, no word on how many households that is, plus the national rating is expected to be a 3.6, which would make it the highest one game playoff rating ever.
Regarding Leno hatred.
Leno is a family-friendly, inoffensive, middle-of-the-road entertainer. Comedy junkies don’t find him even the least bit funny. He symbolizes how the worst and least funny things always become the most popular.
Dwayne, my guess is we’ll see something on the games viewership via press release this afternoon. I’ll try to get the #s even if there isn’t one, but we will ultimately see/post the national viewer numbers for the game.
I’ll take LL Cool J over David C. anyday.
Dwayne, was that baseball game on any broadcast affiliates in those local markets? That could make a meaningful difference between the early and final numbers. If it was on TBS only, probably not so much.
Bill, the game was only on TBS.
Bill if the game did ~5 million (and it was on past 9pm on the east coast) it won’t change the results of the preliminary numbers, but that might mean a million people who would’ve otherwise watched NCIS didn’t!
“Bill if the game did ~5 million (and it was on past 9pm on the east coast) it won’t change the results of the preliminary numbers, but that might mean a million people who would’ve otherwise watched NCIS didn’t!”
People may not realize you’re being sarcastic
Those 5 million people would be about 5% of all the people watching US TV at 9pm last night. A drop in the veritable bucket!
8pm, but yes I was being semi-sarcastic. However, if it gets above a 2.0 adults 18-49, I really *don’t* rate its thievery from the broadcast nets as completely insignificant. NOT Brett Favre significant (Dr. House felt Brett’s wrath on Monday night) but not a veritable drop when it comes to impact either.
Fantastic game either way.
Just checked out last year’s Privileged ratings on the CW and they had 1.7 mill viewers and 1.1 18-49 with a much better lead in at the time bcause 90210 had a 1.7 18-49 (not sure of total viewers). SO I def don’t think we can count MP out yet….Heather Locklear has the power!! Well I hope anyway.
Well, it seems that CBS is happy with the Tuesday rating because NCIS:LA, and The Good Wife just got full season pickups.
happy for Good Wife and NCIS LA
NCIS LA and THE GOOD WIFE JUST GOT THE BACK 9!!
Dearest Craigward….
“If the worst and least funny get the best ratings….”
Conan’s ratings should be going through the roof….instead of into the dumper.
Oh well…
I guess there are not enough 13 year old boys up that late to give him that much needed ratings boost.
Jeff
Yeah for Good Wife and NCIS: LA!!
CBS doesn’t have alot of options now for Miami Trauma and The Bridge.
makes me happy to see back 9 come out today
Even though SMALLVILLE is getting better ratings then programs on Tuesday.
I don’t know why people are being so negative about Melrose Place. The ratings were up from last week and it’s that time of the season where shows that started weak begin to pick up and shows that debuted strong start to slip. There’s a lot of competition on Tuesday nights. Have faith.
The CW has ordered 6 extra episodes for MP…
FOX will be airing a new episode of Brothers this Sunday at 7pm.
http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/brothers-getting-sunday-tryout-fox-8384
Mark – I think you mean 6 additional scripts, which gives The CW an idea about the direction of the series which will obviously get a full year soon.
RJ – Thats not surprising. Brothers repeats have done better at 7 than originals. It seems FOX likes the show and wants to save it, Til Death may either double up on fridays at 8 or move to sundays too. FOX could move both series to sundays so the schedule could look like this
7:00 Til Death
7:30 Brothers
8:00 The Simpsons
8:30 The Cleveland Show
9:00 Family Guy
9:30 American Dad
The only problem is football preempting new episodes, but King of the Hill seemed to air in the slot without problems for the fall. With the comedies moved to sundays 7-8 and Dollhouse pulled, this gives FOX a good opportunity to air House and Glee repeats.
Here’s an idea:
Why doesn’t NBC reformat The biggest Loser to where it could air in two one hour segments on Monday and Tuesday at 8?
It probably wouldn’t do anything but possibly increase the ratings for loser.
Then, they could air Heroes on Monday at 9 and Trauma on Tuesday at 9. Both shows would see a decent increase in 18-49 and maybe a little increase in viewers. (Heroes would have a good chance of moving ahead of Lie to Me) Heroes may be lost as it’s serial and already in the 4th season, but that move could have actually given Trauma a chance.
Every time I get into a show the ratings are bad. I loved Kings last year… We all know how that ended. I really like The Forgotten. I hope it lasts. Castle is good to.
Who cares if the 18-49 demos aren’t winning? I want to be entertained and both NCIS shows do that for me and millions of other Americans. I cannot stand reality TV and I am under 34 years of age.
I think ABC should consider really serious putting V on tuesday and as leading of DWTS, because altough DWTS is down this season it is doing even more terrible for the stupid shark tank and maybe putting V would be fatal for both shows (V and DWTS), because the forgotten doesn’t matter whatever happens it is dead.
For NBC I have an idea why don’t they reformat Biggest Loser and put two hours of it, since monday to saturday and football on sundays that would help a little hahahahahaha….
I didn’t watch NCIS until last year (although my wife has watched longer), and it is now one of my favorite shows on network TV. The basic format of the show is basically a standard cop show, but I really like the characters on the show and their relationships. I tune in to see what will happen with my screen friends on Tuesday.
NCIS:LA is an entirely new show with new characters. The primary similarities with NCIS are 4 letters and they occasionally mention Leon Vance.
I have watched the first two episodes of NCIS, and they were OK. If it weren’t for those 4 letters I probably wouldn’t have watched, so I guess CBS got me. But in retrospect I really don’t know why I was watching this show instead of some other random CSI/L&O/whatever that I usually wouldn’t watch, and I don’t see any reason to keep watching this one.
At least until a few years from now when USA is running NCIS:LA marathons and I suddenly discover that I can’t live without more Hetty.
Of course, CBS can always sneak in a couple of crossover episodes later this year and I’ll probably be stuck.
NCIS is my favorite show….but NCIS LA just isn’t doing it for me.
Not a suprise it was picked up for full season….but if CBS would have given Chris O’Donnell’s role to Alex O”Loughlin, the ratings would have been even greater.
Love CASTLE….hope it gets full season pick up.
BTW, the baseball tiebreaker only had a 2.1 A18-49 rating for the whole four hours and forty seven minutes, but the primetime portion of the game averaged a 3.1 adults 18-49 rating.
I like NCIS LA but I think Shane Brennan needs to hand over the reins of showrunner to someone else because he cannot run two shows with the same amount of time. The show has potential and I think CBS will allow it to make changes in time.
I think that Flash Foward would do good in the 10:00 PM slot. Not much Competition