Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows for the 2010-11 season (includes results through October 18, 2009):
- Likely To Be Canceled By May, 2010
- Some Danger Of Being Canceled By May, 2010
- Likely to Be Renewed For The 2010-11 Season
| Program | Renew/ Cancel Index |
| Ugly Betty (S), (F), (P) | 0.47 |
| Hank | 0.59 |
| the forgotten | 0.72 |
| Eastwick | 0.73 |
| Castle (P) | 0.75 |
| The Middle | 0.76 |
| Brothers & Sisters (S), (P) | 1.03 |
| FlashForward (P) | 1.15 |
| Cougar Town (P) | 1.23 |
| Modern Family | 1.25 |
| Private Practice (P) | 1.33 |
| Desperate Housewives (P) | 1.58 |
| Grey’s Anatomy (P) | 1.93 |
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ABC says Eastwick is a quiet success. Perhaps they’ll be quiet when they cancel the show, because it has zero chance of getting another season. But it does have a crazy fan “Save our Show” campaign!
Ugly Betty is back, and it got terrible ratings for its premiere. Not surprising and unlikely ABC expected much more. It only returned to get enough episodes for syndication which it will have by the end of this season. Could ABC keep it longer to produce even more episodes regardless of the ratings? It’s not 100% out of the question, but it’s a real longshot.
While the forgotten’s ratings have stabilized, they’ve stabilized in the “do not renew” zone and Hank is as dead as it ever was. And while I still think Castle is unlikely to get another season, it’s once again looks to be the best of a bad lot of 10pm weekday dramas for ABC. That gives it a small ray of hope.
Update: Castle’s received a back 9 order to complete the 2009-2010 season. The Index predicts only what will happen for *next* season (as stated rather clearly in the bold text at the top, but perhaps it’s better to not read it and be “surprised”)
The Middle has received an order for a full season from ABC, but I wouldn’t make plans to watch it next season. Its Index will continue to fall even if its ratings stabilize where they are now. The only reason it’s not red now is that I’ve learned to give half hour comedies a bit more slack until later in the season.
This is a breakdown of ABC scripted shows and their renewal and cancellation prospects. Here are links to the other networks:
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Notes:
The Renew/Cancel Index is a show’s Season To Date adults 18-49 rating divided by its network’s Season to Date average 18-49 rating. If a show’s season to date 18-49 ratings average equalled its network’s 18-49 average, the show would have an Index of 1.00. Without special factors, scripted shows that were more than 10% below their network’s average are typically canceled by the end of the broadcast primetime season.
Factors that could cause a show to be renewed with a well below average Index:
- (F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays have been renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.
- (S) – Syndication: Shows nearing syndication (66-88 episodes), often have economic factors that trump ratings leading to renewal.
- (T) – Third Party: Shows that have a portion of their cost underwritten by a 3rd party can be renewed with substantially lower ratings.
- (P) – Produced by the network’s production company – For shows on the bubble, being produced by the network’s corporate production company can be a survival advantage. For real losers, it’s unlikely to help.
While I initially tried to designate shows with “plum” timeslots, I think that’s hard to make that call at this point in the season. It’s likely still a factor, but will have to be an “after the fact” call.
What’s the History of the Index and How Did It Do In the Past? Check out the results from the 2007-8 season and the 2008-9 season.
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2009 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved. All ratings used are Live+Same Day viewing.
It might be stupid of me but I’m clinging to that small ray of hope that ABC sees how well Castle does in the 10 pm hour compared to all the other shows that have performed there.
The show’s title is Eastwick, not Eastwood.
D’oh! I have Clint on the brain! Fixed
That’s not stupid, Lee. For ABC’s 10PM competition (only M-W & F-S), it’s king of the crap hill; meaning its ratings aren’t very rosy, but better than others. It’ll see a full season for sure; but getting renewed might completely depend on how ABC does Jan-May 2010.
Hank, the forgotten, Eastwick and The Middle can´t possibly survive.
Castle and Ugly Betty I think will get another season.
I’ve been playing dumb for a long time about shows like eastwick, DSM, Womens Muder Club, Men in Trees etc and I feel I have to continue to do so. Nikki Finke and the lobbey who further her agenda are not obnly influential beyond their numbers, they actually have an ostensioble poimnt about male chauvinism … bnecause the key male demo has proved predictable in its love of sports and rtaunchy humor, and nobody – including Darren Starr, including Cherry, including Whedon, including sites like Jezebel – have figured out how to tap the female demo cut lose from predictability by the death of the two parent, women stays at home family – which is a given and irreversible – has put the balls up in the air. Disney does a good job manipulatimng girl til uh, well, you get it. After that … But I will play dumb. I have said before I don’t like the dramas on TV now. Without eroticism, life is dull, and TV is supposed to be a reflection of life. I’d rather watch Saw and its sequels than the pale PG/CSI/SVU pinchbeck copy. A woman, from a military family, but somewhat liberal, tuned me on to NCIS … Goethe said, or some German maxim he stiole from said, ” God wants what women want …
Yeah, all the shows in red, expecially Betty & Eastwick deserve to be cancelled. Come on ABC, I’m pretty sure you’re better than this!
very happy that private practice its doing well!!it one of the most succesfull abc shows right now!!(thanks to greys anatomy of course!!)abc should definetely consider a second greys antomy spin off!!
so sad about ugly betty!!!:( friday’s episode was so..so good!!its more funnier than any sitcom!!i cross my finger that abc wont cancel it through the year and give it a proper series finale or even better renew it!!(i dont give much hope on that)
eastwick is such a great show!!!why abc dont put it after desperate housewives?????10pm on sundays doesnt have big competition!three rivers is dead and brothers & sisters is a stablish show!!dhw & esw is a such a great combo!!!
jay, proofread.
If anything will get a backorder, it’s Castle. That said, I could easily see ABC wanting to use Mon. Dancing as the launching pad for a new show following it- meaning Castle’s backorder probably depends on whether ABC has two other shows for Tue/Wed 10pm from February on or not.
And again, unless Lost gets a 10pm slot, all ABC has is Happy Town and various reality fillers. (Deep End is only 6 episodes, Copper is a Canadian-budgeted show.) Though I could see Flashforward continuing to decline and getting yanked off Thursdays.
All in all, ABC is the network to keep the closest eye on, as they have the most movable pieces.
via e! online
Eastwick Is Not Dead (Yet): Despite disappointing ratings thus far, our insiders reveal that ABC isn’t giving up the fight just yet and is planning a promotional push to try to save Eastwick. Maybe mind-control babe Lindsay Price can pull a Matt Parkman and get the show to live in another show’s body?
i suppose these r god news for the show!!
Anyone notice a pattern? Last year, when Lindsay Price was on Lipstick Jungle, people kept claiming the show wasn’t really cancelled LONG after it became obvious that it was. Now, everyone’s claiming that it’s not over for Eastwick yet.
Seriously, Jay, what in the world? First off, your typos are incredible (unless “raunchy” DOES have a silent “t” – if so, I’m sorry). Secondly, you contradict yourself likes crazy. My advice is, if you have a few extra bucks, hire an editor. For the life of me, even after I figured out what you meant most of your words to be, I failed to find a point to your post.
I’ll give up television if ABC keeps Eastwick over Castle.
I hope eastwick doesnt get cancelled, i love the show and its getting really good.
I will fight for eastwick any way I can. Love the shoe!!!
Tom, there’s also The Bachelor. After the huge ratings last year, I could see ABC extending it to cover all of spring, instead of just through March. But if not, a show like The Deep End, with only a 6 episode order, could share the spot. There really isn’t anywhere to put Lost other than 8 or 10, since ABC is doing decently at 9 throughout the week, and I expect to see it at 10.
I think ABC is willing to take a chance with The Middle because they think if they can pair it with something that works the numbers will improve.
ABC should have moved Castle in the off-season and put Eastwick behind DWTS; I think that would have been a much better demographic match. I wouldn’t recommend it now, however, as I think it is too late to save Eastwick and an in-season move would probably harm Castle.
Castle just keeps climbing the charts even though the ratings are flat (bad news for the network). Next week it will almost certainly overtake The Middle. Castle is going to end up in the same place it was at the end of last season as either the worst performing show to get renewed or the best performer to get cancelled. I’m starting to think (and certainly hope) it will be back as ABC is going to have plenty of other holes to fill.
@Julia: Bachelor counts as reality filler. Also, what do you replace it with in winter?
And I continue to disagree with you that Lost is 8 and 10 only. Given how Dancing results continues to decline, ABC could decide to sacrifice it 8 and move a real drama to T9 (which also helps to get said drama out of the way of AI). MF & (especially) CT’s ratings are still moving around enough that I would not consider their scheduling sacrosanct at this point either.
Your probable point, that nothing succeeds after Lost, is true… but nothing works at 10 period (aside from GA spinoffs, and only when directly after GA) for ABC.
Eastwick is actually pretty ok. I think with a slightly different mix of people and writing it could have been a hit. It’s like 80% there. Too bad, because I really like the concept and some of the actors.
And I’ll be glad to not have to hear about Ugly Betty anymore.
Tom, you think that Lost wouldn’t work at 10? I think the audience will go where ever ABC puts it for its final season, including ABC’s horrible 10 pm. And considering DWTS is falling so much due most likely to reality competition on Fox, I don’t see them throwing it under the Idol bus.
As for Bachelor, it normally airs Jan-March. It wouldn’t be too difficult to turn that into Jan-May. Push it back a bit in January to start at the end, rather than the beginning, which won’t make too much of a difference for ABC, and add a few more filler episodes. Piece of cake.
We should start a “Save us from our girlfriends” campaign in which we beg ABC to renew Castle.
Somehow, I’m sure she’ll blame me for its cancellation.
Hah hah, was that nitpicking meant to git undder my skin? The logical answer is arthritis, and I correct rtypos until I can’t do so. But I don’t wANT THE PITY OF THE KIND OF ” PEOPLE ” WHO CAN’T FOLLOW A discursive lines of argument. I DREW TWO OF THE HORNETS OUT OF THE NEST … abc, ARE YOU REALLY THAT DESPERATE ALREADY? tHE wASHINGTON poST AND usa tODAY AND PROBABLY ALl THE OTHER SL*TOCRACY COMMERCIAL PARASITES ON SEXUAL LIBERTY they exploit but refuse to take responsibility for ( IE YOU ARE IN THE SAME CLASS WHATEVER YOUR GENDER OR SEXUAL i.d. AS PIMPS AND CRACK DEALERS) i HIT CAP LOCK, WHICH IS MORE EFFORT ON MY PART THAN YOU TROLLS DESERVE. I hit it again … Because I have more integrity in my **** than you have in your entire family tree. I’ll give you repulsive ABC PR flacks this – Cougar Town will be renewed. You’ve also ignited a slow burn which I hope decimates Lansing and the other Letterman-style groupies whose jobs are safe only because of bogus sexual harassment suit threats. Ladies, keep on klying. … Frasier Cranes’ agent would be proud. ( Oh, dudh, too elliptical for you? Niot in linear sequence? Who are you two, Herman Melville? Proof read this …
Nah, Lost would be perfectly fine at 10 (see the back half of Season 4, after all).
It’s just that given the rest of their T/W lineup, I see ABC being far more likely to put Lost at a 9pm slot to maximize ratings, and hope that they can get another new show to have some success after it at 10.
That plan would of course require either Dancing Results of the MF/CT combo to move to a different slot – and I’m not sure either hour mandates a 9pm slot with the way their ratings are heading.
with the way their ratings are heading.
You mean up?
it seems the only thing the people who write on this site wants is that an entire crew loose thei job, so they can write another news and have some more 10 people reading it.
so, 1 person write and kills 100 people job. just like terrorist, isn’t it?
Jimmy Lee you would have to blame the A18-49 that refuse to watch the crap those 100 people churn out, for terrorism, this site only reports the consequences.
Since the at risk shows are so bad that they induce those people to commit such acts of terrorism, those 100 people are actually the ones to blame for promoting terrorism.
jimmy lee,
Terrorism? The only thing being murdered on this site is the English language (by commenters, not those writing content). You seem to credit this site with a lot of influence. I don’t think network suits dithering over what shows to axe are waiting for Rob and Bill and all this site’s followers to weigh in before they make a decision. And if you can’t handle some schadenfreude, stick to reading the charts.
i really hope castle gets renewed. ugly betty and eastwick too
Eastwick is a bad bad show.. The cast couldn’t act their way out of a paper bag… Besides it’s nothing like the original movie it’s based off of, and really the guy playing the lead is no Jack Nicholson..
Castle is an intelligent, funny and charming show. Castle and Beckett have major chemistry and play well off each other. It’s a clean show, that proves you don’t need sex to sell it.
Bill can`t you give Castle a break.It gets 9 Million a week.In my opinion it is a good solid hit even at 10pm.As for Eastwick,Forgotten,Hank and possibly Ugly Betty they are gone.The Middle i am still hoping for because i do have faith the show will pull through…until the end of the season.After that the show is dead.
Connor you may think Castle is a hit, but keep in mind 9 Mil viewers means nothing. It’s 18-49 Demo is what determines if its a hit, or if it gets canceled. Bill has nothing to do with it other than reporting on the ratings. The guys here aren’t beating up on the show, they are going by the shows numbers, and Castle’s numbers are bad.
Considering Castle’s ratings, Shannon, the show has not proved sex is unneeded to sell it.
Lost should air at 10 p.m. this year. Why move the 9 p.m. shows that are doing well to make room for Lost’s final season when it’s never launched anything? With Lost, Private Practice, 20/20, Saturday movies and Brothers and Sisters, there would be just two 10 p.m. slots left to fix this winter/spring.
You mean up?
MF: 4.2/3.8/3.4/3.6
CT: 4.4/3.8/3.2/3.3
DR: 3.5/2.7/2.6/2.9
They all might have ticked up last week, but that hardly indicates any long term upward trend.
They all are also under the 4.0 baseline Lost had last season, even when going up against AI. Why do they deserve their 9pm slots?
@jimmy lee – Is this post humor? If not:
A) We aren’t killing their shows, their poor product is.
B) Networks don’t broadcast dead air. Even if a few snarky comments on a website somehow kill a show… some other crew gains those jobs on the replacement.
Tom, there is nothing to indicate that they are heading down, either. If ABC wants its comedy block not to die off like every other time they’ve tried it recently, they’ll leave it at 9 and hope it can compete with Idol-boosted-Glee. They’ll certainly take a hit, but they would take much more of a hit being moved to 8 Tuesday or Wednesday to compete directly with Idol.
i like hank though
and flashforward is just lost all over again
I agree with Julia here, ABC would be foolish to move the Comedy Block around this year. I also agree with Julia, Losts fans will follow the show anywhere ABC puts it.
ABC…I enjoy Castle…I think the story lines are interesting, the characters are charming and well developed; Hank is just typical, predictable sitcom crap…horrible, Ugly Betty was ok in the beginning…but come on…she’s been at a fashion magazine for how many years and now she FINALLY wants to look presentable….a little late; the Forgotten is just …. I don’t know…VOID…there’s nothing there, forget about it and then we have Eastwick….I’m still on the fence about it, I think the characters are still developing as are the interpersonal relationships … so the jury is still out on that one for me. The one I can’t stomach is Flash Forward … I just can’t get through it so I finally canceled my Season Pass…but I don’t think that will hurt it any. Congrats to ABC on Modern Family…LOL Funny!!! Great Cast, Great Writing!
ABC would be wise to place LOST ANYWHERE other than against American Idol. They will be guaranteed 9 million or so (the dedicated core viewers based on last season’s numbers ) against AI. Since this is the last season, alot of viewers frustrated from earlier seasons will tune in to see how it ends if the show is in a less competitve time slot.
Put it on Monday at 10:00, Thursday at 8:00, maybe even a post Desperate Housewives send off on Sunday at 10:00. Basically, don’t eviserate what’s working now and avoid American Idol.
I think that someone a week or so described Eastwick best, if you liked Charmed, you’ll like Eastwick. I had the show backed up on my DVR and decided to watch the 1st 4 episodes this weekend. I’d have to agree, Charmed fans would like this show. Unfortunately Charmed would have never worked on ABC either. This is the one show that I would say the CW could do well with (at least by their standards.) It really has “The WB” feel to it.
Eastwick is ok. I usually laugh once or twice an episode because of Paul Gross or Sara Rue. However, the dramatic story lines are starting to get tedious. I think I’ll be fine if they cancel it.
UGLY BETTY should have a (P)… don’t know what that means for its odds as I have no idea why it got renewed to a Friday spot when ABC’s had success in the past with their cheaper reality stuff there. Vegas odds aren’t good for the line-up’s ugly duckling
Feel bad for Gretchen Mol. It will be two straight years for her that she is in a show that didn’t make it a year. This show and Life On Mars last year. Poor woman needs to catch a break.
Will the index be wrong about Castle again?!?!? Full season baby! Let’s hope it has the legs for season 3!
If ABC really didn’t put much money into Eastwick it might have a slight chance if it improves to at least 2,2-2,5 in the 18-49 demos. But based on its last two performance, it’s unlikely. I root for this show, I hope somehow it will survive ! (yes, I am thinking of you, Dawn Ostroff, if ABC cancels it, try to do finally something nice)
Michael writes, “Anyone notice a pattern? Last year, when Lindsay Price was on Lipstick Jungle, people kept claiming the show wasn’t really cancelled LONG after it became obvious that it was. Now, everyone’s claiming that it’s not over for Eastwick yet.”
NBC got the ball rolling with that one. They were claiming “Coupling” wasn’t really cancelled long after it became obvious they were readying the replacement.
I can’t see either “The Forgotten” or “Eastwick” lasting much longer considering they’re both getting beat by Leno. I would almost think ABC would be embarrassed by that.
I only watched the pilot of Eastwick and I like the concept but the execution of the story was not that good though but it did have a potential. But with its numbers it would only
And I agree Lost should be put at 10pm. Keep MF and CF on their time slot for the whole season, those shows needs nurturing and ABC needs those shows to stabilize because they will be good for the business on a long term basis. I hope The Middle will improve along the way.
^ My post was incomplete haha it should have been
But with its numbers it would only take a miracle for it to survive
Addint to my Eli Stone/Dirty Sexy Money comparisons, The Forgotten and Eastwick will both likely get the former’s last year treatment (airing episodes out until December) but after that both 10pm series are gone. Flashforward and Castle have been given full years (as I expected from the beginning) The Forgotten has been squandering its Dancing lead in and consistently losing to another freshman drama The Good Wife. Eastwick has harder competition but a lower rated lead in. In the comedy department with The Middle, mdoern Family, and Cougar Town all given full years, its goodbye for the sole multicamera sitcom which is being preempted on October 28.
My final guess
Hank will be pulled in November-December (6-8 episodes aired)
Eastwick will air all episodes (or most) and be gone after December
The Forgotten will air all episodes (or most) and be gone after December
Everything else has already gotten a full year, and ABC’s midseason is packed so they dont need Hank/Eastwick/Forgotten.
With Castle getting a full season pick up what does that mean for some of the other shows?
these indexes are interesting but not very useful…haven’t really been a good indicator for the past few renewals. hell, Eastwick has a chance now if Castle got renewed.
I just hope ABC will let Eastwick and The Forgotten produce all 13 episodes and maybe the writers could pull a closure for those shows
Eastwick doesn’t interest me to even bother watching it even though I really like Lindsay Price and Jamie Ray Newman as actresses.
William – you don’t have to feel bad for Gretchen Mol. She didn’t get the part. She was up for the role of Roxie, but it went to Rebecca Romijn. IMDB has nothing listed for her since LOM ended either.
I guess Castle will move into orange with the possibility of green if the ratings improve enough?
Eastwick may be a money maker. Depending on demographics, it doesn’t have to have a big audience if it has a certain type of audience. I can think of one show after another (St Elsewhere, Quantum Leap) that had long runs, but never really were big ratings winners, but had a demographic advertisers wanted. This could be the case with Eastwick.
@Matt, the index doesn’t judge back 9 orders. If you read the post you would have seen that it’s used for predicting renewals and cancellations going for the 2010-2011 fall season.
“Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows for the 2010-11 season (includes results through October 18, 2009)”
The index has been used for 2 years now and it is fairly accurate. Are there things that shake out differently – sure just look at Dollhouse. With that said if you look at the index from past years you will see how accurate it is.
Matt, Castle was *not* renewed, it simply received the back 9 order to complete this season. The Index predicts renewal for *next* season as the first, bold line in the text notes.
Ugly Betty was sooooo good on Friday! It’s a shame they anrt payinh more attention to it. But what they should honestly do it move the show to their Comedy Wednesdays. I REALLY think it could do well there if they cancelled Eastwick or something.
Oh yeah and Ugly Betty should have a P, it’s produced by ABC studios.
I didn’t understand the concept of “guilty pleasure” before. Now I do.
Eastwick is totally and completely cheesy and contrived. But I love it, still. It’s my guilty pleasure. So I’m hoping it somehow sticks around, despite the ratings being anything but good.
Matt, Eastwick and Castle can’t really be compared. Eastwick’s last episode got a 1.7 in the demo. Castle’s last episode got a 2.4.
Aok,it’s got 5 million viewers and a 1.7. What demographic could it possibly have?
Anna, indeed it should. Fixed!
Long time reader, first time poster, the calls to switch Brothers and Sisters and Eastwick is a good one. I don’t watch Desperate Housewives, but there is always something about schemes and betrayal and crap, or that’s how Australia promotes it, and Eastwick is all about this “girl power” stuff, makes sense to run it after another “girl power” show, Desperate Housewives. Also, Brothers and Sisters is a family oriented show, which makes sense because nearly all of the sitcoms on Wednesday are family oriented, Cougar Town is a slight exception, but still is family oriented somewhat
LOL @ “The Middle” being the in the middle of being canceled/renewed! IRONIC?
Anyway…”Grey’s Anatomy” and “Desperate Housewives”…same story as last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the….ABC really needs to find something because these show’s aren’t gonna be around in a few years.
aznfratboy- The only problem their is will Brothers & Sisters be able to hold up on its own on another night. Remember B&S has always aired 10pm sundays following Desperate Housewives. This combo has worked and unless ABC really wants to save Eastwick, B&S isnt moving anywhere.
I actually want ABC to try if B&S could work without DH but they should have done it when the season started, I think it’s too late now for that
Castle should have (P) because it is produced by ABC Studios.
Should get a better timeslot to be saved:
Ugly Betty
Will be canceled:
Hank
the forgotten
Eastwick
Castle
Will get a new season:
The Middle (Better Off Ted treatment)
Brothers & Sisters
FlashForward
Cougar Town
Modern Family
Private Practice
Desperate Housewives
Grey’s Anatomy
ABC is in good shape half of their shows are not in the bubble unlike last season, but it will change once the midseason starts
I really hope Ugly Betty does ok, yes the ratings weren’t good but I can guarantee it will be up this week now that a few people know its on.
What was ABC thinking!? If UB is so cheap to produce as they say why aren’t they worried about putting it on a Friday, when it did perfectly well on a Thursday.
I wish something could be said to ABC like…WAKE UP!
Ren,
UB was doing horrible on Thursdays last season, with a an average demo of 2 in the last 5 episodes. The fact that it is cheap saved it from being canceled, and gave it the season long wake on Fridays.
Because it is cheap, it doesn’t mean that ABC wants to compound losses by airing it on a day where they could make more money with other shows. It means that it can afford the losses of ad revenue on an already low rated day like Fridays, and that only until they fulfill whatever syndication deal they might cut with the show.
Ugly Betty wasn’t doing good on Thursdays, that’s why it got moved to Fridays. The only reason it got another season was to get enough episodes for syndication. ABC knew the numbers weren’t going to be good on Fridays, but they really don’t care at this point. If the numbers improve yes they will be happy, but I would say the numbers would need to get up to a 2.0 Demo or better to get renewed for 2010-11.
The thing about Thursdays is CBS’ Survivor/CSI juggernaut. They need something that can hold their own against those two shows, thus why FlashForward was put up against Survivor.
Honestly, of all the networks, ABC keeps on beating the index.
I like ABC.
Should the index be adjusted by day of week that the show airs? Private Practice is one pretty bad show but it does well because it’s on Thursday, the most watched day of the week.
I wouldn’t rule out Castle just yet. The media tie-ins (Nikki Heat book, Castle’s twitters) may pull in more younger viewers. Heat Wave was #6 on the New York Times list recently.
I think Castle, like NCIS, could be a sleeper show that gains as it goes on. I noticed that last night’s NCIS not only had double the viewers of Monday’s House episode, it also beat it in the 19 – 49 demo.
I think the comparison to House’s numbers may be a little deceptive considering the Yankee/Angel game cut into that episode.
I agree, Michael. I was using it in connection with how the audience for NCIS is growing. Two years ago it was dismissed as a show for old fogeys who are irrelevant in terms of what stays and what goes. Now it’s growing in the demos as well as overall audience.
How a show does with the 18-49 demographic may indicate what advertisers will pay but it’s not an indicator of the quality of a show. NCIS is a good show and the younger 18 – 39 demo is now realzing it.
On House, the ratings have been going down for the past couple of years. It will be interesting to see how it does once the current post-hallucination and tyrant killing storylines are done and the show is back to the Thirteen, Foreman and House/Cuddy storylines of last season. It’s possible that the lower ratings of this week reflect a “softer” audience for the show, those who tune in when it’s on but arent’ willing to stick around to make sure they catch it.
FlashForward is so boring……
What happened to the rating points being shown on the index are viewers in 18-49?
I watch Hank out of loyalty to Kelsey Grammar after giving us 11 of the best years of TV not to mention Cheers. I am really enjoying The Middle. It’s intelligent, fresh, and funny. And Modern Family is fresh and stellar. Cougar Town is great. But the show I look forward to most is Eastwick. It presses all the right buttons to put me in the best mood for this time of year. And I never really went for Charmed. The girls in charmed were superheros always involved in a a battle against evil. Their powers were hokey, and the show was too focused on magic and other worlds and not grounded enough in the real-world and its everyday drama. Eastwick has the same type mystery of Lost, and Flash Forward, a technique I think networks are trying to exploit since Lost became so successful. For anyone who likes to use movies and tv to help themselves get into the autumn/fall/halloween mood, but does not like horror films, I cannot find anything better than Eastwick. There are some good movies like this, but not many. Probably one of the best is Arsenic and Old Lace. Anyone that evaluates it fairly I think should say that it is a very well-done show in most respects, even if they do not care for it personally, and even if it is not getting good ratings.
I cannot get into Numbers, or Lie To Me. I was going to try The Forgotten and Flash Forward, but maybe instead I’ll try Grey’s Anatomy and Private Practice since they seem so popular. I’m also going to try that V show and White Collar when they aire. Any advice regarding these shows? What about Brothers and Sisters and Castle?
Anyway, goodbye Hank, sorry Kelsey. The Middle is an excellent show and deserves to stay. And I just really hope Eastwick stays.
Otherwise, Dexter and House aren’t going anywhere. How is Glee doing? I like that show too.
Smallville944, if we displayed Nielsen ratings in these posts we would have to remove them after 2 weeks under our agreement with Nielsen. Since we wanted to leave them on the site, the ratings numbers have been removed.
I like Castle it is better than some of the shows on TV. Hank and The Middle are just dumb. The forgotten is pretty good too.
Re forgotten: If Slater found a razor and washed his hair, it might help the ratings.
Come on Americans! Watch Ugly Betty! It’s such a great show, it’s just a shame. If ABC hadn’t demoted it to Fridays it may have grown. It’s a longshot, but you never know. 5 million isn’t bad for a Friday. It’s not great, but it’s not bad either. Yet another longshot: maybe The CW or another network will pick it up. Please! It got 16 million when it started…where has everyone gone?
Me again! Something I forgot to say. What exactly does a back order mean? I’m from the UK and am still trying to comprehend the American television system, especially those confusing demos!
Tommy, new shows or weak returning shows typically start with an order of 13 episodes. The “back 9″ completes the typical 22 episode season.
Thanks Bill. Do networks sometimes add 1 or 2 episodes on because sometimes shows have 23 or 24 episode seasons?
Tommy, over 22 episodes in a season in today’s broadcast world is quite rare.
Bill – Actually The Mentalist got 23 episodes and 90210 got 24 I think. If a new shows does really well sometimes it gets over 22. I remember ABC used to give their multi camera comedies over 30 back in 2003. I actually agree with you that Castle wont get a third season. Castle’s pattern is the same as What About Brian and October Road. It does great when it premieres midseason does OK in the fall, gets a full order or lasts until March and then gets axed in May. ABC really doesnt need The Forgotten or Eastwick so when those series finish their 13 episodes in December, they will be gone and replaced. Hank may be axed in November but it will either be replaced or ABC will move things around but will still keep the comedy block.
Bill – I thought 24 episodes was a standard order for ABC dramas ? Last season, Greys, DH, B&S, UB all had 24 eps, not the usual 22.