Due to the nature of live sports programming the ratings for FOX’s World Series Game 2 (Yankees vs. Phillies) are approximate, however they have been time zone adjusted and are subject to less revision than typical for sports in the final numbers. See below for more information on these Fast Affiliate Ratings.
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| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 | 5.7 | 3.8/10 | 3.5/9 | 2.4/6 | 1.7/4 | 1.3/3 |
| Rating/Share: Adults 18-34 | 4.8 | 3.6/10 | 2.2/6 | 2.6/8 | 1.9/5 | 1.4/4 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 18.954 | 10.541 | 14.117 | 5.559 | 3.533 | 3.514 |
Sports contests are falling Fox’s way this fall, as the Yankees won game 2 of the World Series to even it, and the game averaged a 5.8 adults 18-49 rating and 18.9 million viewers (from 7:55-11:25pm) to win the night for Fox. That also topped every World Series Game 2 since 2004.
FlashForward fell 13% to a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating, it’s lowest ever. Survivor: Samoa fell 8% from last week to a 3.7 rating.
Against baseball, Grey’s Anatomy scored a 5.1 adults 18-49 rating down 4% from last week, but crushing CSI’s 3.4 rating which was down 6% from its last new episode on 10/15.
At 10pm, Private Practice was down 3% to a 3.6 rating, just edging The Mentalist’s 3.5 rating that was flat vs. last week.
NBC shows held up well vs. baseball, Community moved up 11% to a 2.1 adults 18-49 rating. Parks & Recreation was flat with a 2.1 rating. The Office registered a 4.2 rating, also flat vs. last week. 30 Rock had a 3.0 rating, down 9% from last week. The Jay Leno Show came in with a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating, effectively flat from last week.
For the CW, Vampire Diaries had its highest rating ever in adults 18-34 (2.3), matched its series high in women 18-34 (3.1 rating), and had its second best performance of the year in adults 18-49 (2.0 rating). Supernatural equaled its best ratings of the season in adults 18-34 (1.4 rating).
In Late-Night Local People Meters Thursday night:
- Conan O’Brien (0.9/4 in 18-49 in local people meters) trailed CBS’s Late Show (1.0/4) in Nielsen’s 24 local markets with People Meters.
- At 12:35 a.m., Jimmy Fallon (0.6/3 in 18-49 in local people meters) tied CBS’s Late Late Show (0.6/4).
Note: No share data for the World Series Game 2 as yet.
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating | 18-49 Share | Viewers Live+SD (Millions) |
| 7:55 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 2.9 | 9.715 | |
| 8:00 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 4.3 | 15.529 | |
| CBS | Survivor: Samoa | 3.6 | 10 | 12.326 | |
| ABC | FlashForward | 2.7 | 8 | 8.916 | |
| NBC | Community | 2.1 | 6 | 5.481 | |
| CW | The Vampire Diaries | 1.9 | 6 | 4.071 | |
| 8:30 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 5.4 | 18.808 | |
| CBS | Survivor: Samoa | 3.8 | 10 | 12.654 | |
| ABC | FlashForward | 2.8 | 7 | 9.035 | |
| NBC | Parks & Recreation | 2.1 | 5 | 4.963 | |
| CW | The Vampire Diaries | 2.1 | 5 | 4.307 | |
| 9:00 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 5.6 | 19.389 | |
| ABC | Grey’s Anatomy | 5.0 | 12 | 13.182 | |
| NBC | The Office | 4.2 | 10 | 8.142 | |
| CBS | CSI | 3.3 | 8 | 14.622 | |
| CW | Supernatural | 1.3 | 3 | 2.921 | |
| 9:30 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 5.8 | 19.624 | |
| ABC | Grey’s Anatomy | 5.2 | 13 | 13.652 | |
| CBS | CSI | 3.5 | 9 | 15.261 | |
| NBC | 30 Rock | 3.0 | 7 | 6.011 | |
| CW | Supernatural | 1.3 | 3 | 2.833 | |
| 10:00 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 6.4 | 19.867 | |
| ABC | Private Practice | 3.8 | 10 | 9.804 | |
| CBS | The Mentalist | 3.6 | 9 | 15.216 | |
| NBC | The Jay Leno Show | 1.7 | 4 | 4.620 | |
| 10:30 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 6.8 | 20.505 | |
| CBS | The Mentalist | 3.4 | 9 | 14.621 | |
| ABC | Private Practice | 3.4 | 9 | 8.659 | |
| NBC | The Jay Leno Show | 1.4 | 4 | 4.140 | |
| 11:00 | FOX | World Series Game 2, Yankees v. Phillies | 7.0 | 20.328 |
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Definitions:
Fast Affiliate Ratings: These first national ratings, including demographics, are available at approximately 11 AM (ET) the day after telecast, and are released to subscribing customers daily. These data, from the National People Meter sample, are strictly time-period information, based on the normal broadcast network feed, and include all programming on the affiliated stations, sometimes including network programming, sometimes not. The figures may include stations that did not air the entire network feed, as well as local news breaks or cutaways for local coverage or other programming. Fast Affiliate ratings are not as useful for live programs and are likely to differ significantly from the final results, because the data reflect normal broadcast feed patterns. For example, with a World Series game, Fast Affiliate Ratings would include whatever aired from 8-11PM on affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone, following the live football game, but not game coverage that begins at 5PM PT. The same would be true of Presidential debates as well as live award shows and breaking news reports.
Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.
Share (of Audience): The percent of households (or persons) using television who are tuned to a specific program, station or network in a specific area at a specific time. (See also, Rating, which represents tuning or viewing as a percent of the entire population being measured.)
Time Shifted Viewing – Program ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.
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flash forward was down alot
I knew Vampire Diaries would hit a 2.0. Only .1 away from NBC’s comedies. At least CW has one hit!
Nice to see Greys holding up well!
Bad for Flash Forward but it was expected because of Baseball!
Yes! Community up!
Community’s episode last night was hilarious with Abed as Batman. Great stuff, but Parks was the standout of the night.
NBC’s thursday comedy block is probably the best two hours of television this fall.
Tar, FlashForward was down 13%, but of ABC’s Thursday shows, its the most male skewing. I’m not sure it wouldn’t have trended down anyway even without the World Series, but it took a bigger hit because of it.
BTW, the World Series numbers above are time zone adjusted. They won’t wind up changing much, if at all.
Good to see CW with some life (via the undead).
I watched NBC comedy block from 8-10 and it was good! I’m glad to see “Community” gain some ground. “Parks & Recreation” is funnier this season and last nights show was hilarious. “The Office” is always the highest rated, but of the four shows I found it the least funny last night (which usually is not the case for me) and I thought 30 Rock totally rocked last night–a very good and very funny episode.
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Pair Vampire Diaries with Eastwick, WB !
Warner Bros. produces both shows, based on recent Eastwick castings they didn’t give up on it yet, so if it gets cancelled try CW ! It could be HUGE for them!
Wow a 2.0 for The CW! They finally have a hit. They could seriously beat NBC in weeks to come
Too bad for FlashForward, hope it bounces next week. At least Community is back in the 2.0 zone. It’s amazing how The Office’s demo is twice demo of P&R. Glad 30 Rock stayed in the 3.0 zone
The Mentalist beat CSI in the demo and closing in with Private Practice!
THE VAMPIRE DIARIES WAS AWESOME LAST NIGHT
But The Mentalist is highly promoted by CBS, unlike Private Practice on ABC which is never i mean never promoted. So a 3.6 for a show that gets basically no promotion is excellent!
Vampire Diaries is easily my favourite show of the season so far it started slow but keeps getting better every week i hate that they’re already killing off series regulars though
I’m encouraged by Community going up. Last night’s episode was hilarious, the best yet. Senor Chang is hysterical and for once Chevy Chase was actually funny in the show. I hope it keeps improving.
As for FlashForward, I would have to imagine baseball would have some effect. They really need to start getting things rolling though. They need to realize their viewers are interested in the mystery surrounding the blackout a ton more than the drama between characters. That stuff is important too but enough of that already. Dominic as Simon is going to work well. Love his creepy role and we need to see a lot more of him every episode.
@phantom
WB hasn’t given up on Eastwick yet because the have been paid by ABC for 13 episodes regardless of what ABC does, although those pesky accountants might insist that ABC air all 13.
“But The Mentalist is highly promoted by CBS, unlike Private Practice on ABC which is never i mean never promoted. So a 3.6 for a show that gets basically no promotion is excellent!”
Very true. I watch a lot of shows on ABC and I never see promos for Private Practice except during Grey’s Anatomy
CW cracks the 2.0!!!! Grey’s holding up nicely. private practice still best performer @ 10pm across all week and all networks – Good times for my favourites shows
If only the fates of Dollhouse and Eastwick could change somehow….
I don’t know what to make of Flashforward. Those ratings could be that it is male-leaning, despite the female sub-plots shoehorned in (see the hospital set), and thus suffering from baseball – or it could be general unhappiness with the show. I thought it would settle around high 2s, so I can’t say which is the case yet.
Mentalist over CSI? Boy, it’s not like half the commentators here thought they should have been swapped to begin with, or anything. Though again, it could just be that CSI is more male leaning than the Mentalist.
30 Rock down to a 3.0? Again, could be baseball, but I think it should be moved to 8:30 next year once it reaches syndicatable season 4 and NBC should use the post-Office slot to incubate another comedy.
Supernatural up simply because of no Fringe?
All in all, can’t wait for next week’s numbers to compare.
Flash Forward is bad. Like really bad. It’s amazing that this crappy show is able to pull these numbers.
i dont think we can completely blame flashforward on baseball- male skewing community and supernatural both went up
Wow for the CW ouch for FlashForward… seems like the show won’t last long after all.
Tables coming soon?
FlashForward has been pretty weak lately and ABC is very unhappy with the show creatively (they even fired one of the showrunners personally im still hanging in there but its losing me fast VD is a way better show)
@Melissa “Very true. I watch a lot of shows on ABC and I never see promos for Private Practice except during Grey’s Anatomy”
The show did middling ratings in its original Wednesday timeslot. ABC doesn’t bother promoting PP because the audience entirely consists of the portion of GA’s audience that don’t bother changing the channel when the mothership is over.
Post now Updated with network averages and show data table.
TAR: i was also pretty shocked that they killed that girl off last night!! but im kinda glad tho, her lips annoyed me lol
rob, Melissa
Private Practice has THE best lead-in ABC can offer, so I think that’s enough support for a show.
Heavy marketing should be given to shows that are on their own without any (or little) help.
Vampire diaries was awesome yesterday
glad it’s still doing well. And I wish the Mentalist was on a different day, there’s too much on thursdays as it is.
Despite the baseball, CBS had a good night and The Mentalist is slowly starting to catch up with CSI beating it in the demo and was only 0.1 apart from Private Practice.
The Vampire Diaries is doing great business for The CW, surely Dawn should get the message that the teen shows like Gossip Girl, 90210 and Melrose Place are not the key to success.
U have Community at 8 and 8:30. Should be Parks at 8:30
Holy crap over 4 million viewers for Vampire Diaries!!! THATS AMAZING FOR THE CW!! Now if only Melrose Place could go up.
Did NBC air a full hour of Community or is the 8:30 supposed to Parks & Rec?
Bad news for Flash Forward but I’m guessing they took a big hit because of baseball.
I have watched all of FF and all of Stargate Universe.
IMO…..SGU blows it out of the water.
the 8:30 is supposed to be P&R. I’ve changed it.
Holly, that was an error, it was Parks & Rec.
Imagine if the CW had have made Thursdays;
Vampire Diaries
Smallville.
They’d be 4th for the night easy (maybe 3rd in Adults 18-34)
I wonder what the ratings for The Mentalist would be if it wasn’t highly promoted by CBS.
VD is going to bring CW to its former “glory” 2.1 is quite impressing for the CW, over 4 millions viewers is really good to. Maybe it will beat True Blood numbers.
As for FlashForward, well, the writers are the only one to blame, they started with a 4.2 and keep screwing it up. Nothing is happening, there is one great episode, one good, the rest of them are junk. Its disappointing, I thought the show really could bring something great. If they one keep those 9 million viewers, they really need to get into business, stop showing us 20 seconds of story each episodes.
Great news for TVD – love that show…
Well, let’s keep something in perspective…
The long-term trend for World Series/Baseball is a negative bearish trend. The last 4 World Series could only muster about 15 million in Viewers. If you look at the ratings from 1970,1980s, 1990s, you see that the decade of 2000-present, has been the lowest in record, except for occasional spike due to Yankees being in the World Series, or another major team.
The game seems to be outdated, too long, and too slow. It needs to cut the regular season, cut the innings played, and make the game faster.
Otherwise, i see the World Series sliding further into the next decade, possibly averaging between 12-15 million, with occasional spikes. In modern America, the notion of Baseball being the national pastime doesn’t seem to correlate with the tv ratings.
I figured Flashforward would drop with baseball playoffs, but I was hoping it wouldn’t be by that much. The show had been disappointing to me, but I continued to watch based on its potential, and I think last night’s was its best episode yet. Dominic Monighan (sp?) as Simion was excellent, and I think an interesting evil character will really help the show out. Especially if he really does know a lot about the mystery behind the Flashforwards. I also felt that Mark and Olivia are finally starting to be believable/relatable characters which helps a lot.
It seems like CW is having a good week with their “hits” anyway with The Vampire Diaries doing really well yesterday and Top Model doing the best it has done in awhile on Wed.
Totally disagree Chris. SGU was a bore fest for me with bad acting, bad special effects and a tired storyline. Flash Forward is fresh and very character driven. I like it a lot. I hope it goes back up in weeks to come.
Good for Community. A good show in a tough time slot but it’s holing it’s own. I think it has P and R to thank since it has improved. If CW had any brains it would now start to build off of VD with similar shows. Note to CW you can still get the numbers you want from the demo you want without copycat shows or campy shows like Melrose. Hopefully it will see the light. I’m not that confident.
The other thing about Vampire Diaries is that it rose 300,000 viewers into the second half.
The thing that strikes me is that this show was the CW tapping into what viewers really wanted. They might think that teen girls want four gossip girl clones (ironic being that gossip girl is a clone of the oc, which is a clone of dawsosn creek which is a clone of 90210) but they don’t. Want they want is the same kind of angsty story but in different scenarios. Their five biggest shows are angsty vampires, angsty superheroes, angsty demon fighting brothers and angsty rich people. For next year they need more scenarios of angsty people somewhere else.
For me they need a GOOD ER clone. Maybe a more serious version of Scrubs, kinda like what Greys Anatomy was at the beginning; new fresh doctors with problems.
Loving the name ‘Other Tony’
I really hope Flashforward can bounce back. Dominic Monaghan was awesome as Simon and the show in general has been getting better in my opinion.
Good for the Vampire Diaries. That show just keeps getting better and better every week.
I was curious as to why tvbythenumbers doesn’t show the 18-34 category numbers anymore, if I remember correctly (and I sometimes don’t) it was shown last year.
Im actually gutted about Vampire Diaries in that I read the reviews of the pilot and it was apparently awful, so I skipped upon it, but reading all the TV news I have, Ive kinda spoilt myself on it, when it seems its exactly the sort of show I like. Emotional mind-rape.
All right! CSI came in fourth! This is great news. I really hope we get to see it dip below a 3.0 before the season is over.
@Bret,
That question was actually answered yesterday (fairly far down in the comments, so easy to miss).
Mostly it’s simplicity, but it’s also because TVBTN was the only site to post them last year and with the back-and-forth with Nielsen, they dropped it so they could use the “but everyone else is doing it!” excuse.
A correction to my prior post in regards to 18-34 ratings, I meant for individual shows on the ratings chart.
lol, again i am corrected forget my prior posts
Everyone’s talking about it, but it still bears repeating: Parks and Rec just keeps getting better and better. One of the funniest shows on TV now. Last night’s episode was awesome.
BG the problem is not the game or the season but the lack of attention spans by America. Gosh just look at the crap on TV these days. It’s all about instant gratification and baseball is not like that. It’s only outdated because people actually could pay attention to something 20 years ago. The game itself is as good, if not better than ever. Baseball fans though know and appreciate the game and realize that what your saying isn’t true.
Baseball this year has been incredible and the AL series and last nights game were some of the better baseball games I’ve seen in a while. They have been nail biters that have been brilliantly played and coached.
I would like to see MLB cut the season down to 148 games and put more continuity in the post season (not long layoffs between games). But for the most part, it works. It’s just that you either get baseball or you don’t and those who don’t won’t stick around.
Bit like the office really that, Parks. Started poor and gets better. Will have to give it a look now.
Vampire Diaries may save the CW after all.
I think The CW should go back to The WB model which wasn’t perfect but it produced more hits, I do think they need another superhero show perhaps to replace Smallville either a Green Arrow and Black Canary show or if DC Comics and Warner Bros would let them, a Wonder Woman show which has name recognition and can be reinvented like Smallville was, it’s such a shame that The CW passed on the Aquaman show.
If there was any major changes to The CW, I would keep Gossip Girl, ANTM, Vampire Diaries, Smallville and Supernatural for a final season.
CSI and Mentalist are the most popular shows on Thursday nights!!!! This info is being obscured by the business oriented demo facists!
Rob,
ABC had a promotional conundrum with the last episode of Private Practice. All the promos they made so far are Addison centric. It must be what their marketing research determined sells the show. Last episode was the final episode of the Violet shit, and they had nothing really good to put on a promo to be showed outside the end of the episode. Besides people did tune in after GA. The problem was that this episode lost more people at halftime than any other other episode this season.
“Vampire Diaries is easily my favourite show of the season so far it started slow but keeps getting better every week i hate that they’re already killing off series regulars though”
It helped True Blood increase when they did it their first season, just when you think a character is safe…they’re dead. Without that death last night the episode would’ve went flat. It was really smart to add that in, especially since momentum could’ve slowed when they were off last week.
“This info is being obscured by the business oriented demo facists!”
This would be a good one for the bingo card.
That may have been the unfunniest episode of THE OFFICE, ever…completely abysmal.
That said it’s still funnier than the horrid COMMUNITY and PARKS AND REC. Good to see VAMPIRE DIARIES tying PARKS and it’s probably just a matter of time before it beats COMMUNITY too.
Why doesn’t this site just rename itself medialife 2 and just be done with it!
I am freaking ecstatic for “Community” and just hope this wonderful trend continues–what a hysterical, LMFAO-type episode last night. “Parks and Recreation” was the most hilarious its ever been last night. I echo the sentiment that “The Office” was kind of weak on the funny overall; it was nice to see the continued, albeit resistant on Jim’s part, bonding between Michael and Jim, with how the office workers kinda turned on Jim and he continues to experience how Michael feels. And, OMFG, “30 Rock” was hilarious; I only wish that Betty White was in it way more–and played a dual role as Kenneth’s grandmother!
As for “FlashForward”, it’s one of those shows that I want to like, but it tries too hard, takes itself too seriously, and doesn’t feel like it can be a show that can grow from one season. It’s possible that it won’t get renewed. I like Fiennes, more so when he’s not hammy; Walger is great; Davenport is just fantastic; List is grand; but my favorite is the breakout Christine Woods. In my opinion, she just steals most of her scenes with finesse. I can’t stand John Cho–way too melodramatic; Vance is over-the-top; O’Byrne is too histrionic. Oy.
I wish they’d move this strong CW night to a different night–like Tuesday or something. Thursday is just WAY too congested.
All in all, a nifty week for television. Greg Pikitis!
lol parks and rec almost got beaten by vampire diaries, as it should be. It really is becoming a great show, not just for women.
Survivor deserves more credit! It was the best show of the night for CBS!
JS- i love shows that kill off main characters (Harper’s Island,24,Prison Break,True Blood) just really liked Vicki and thought there was still so much to do with her
In other news, Doc Michaels has been found to lack all sense of humor. Not shocking.
James, I agree with you on Community for sure. Last night was hysterical. Senor Chang needs to be in every episode or every other like he has been so far. Good stuff but the show definitely needs to develop some sort of mini-arc to keep viewers glued to the show. A running storyline would work out great. Right now it’s random classes with random teachers that are at least funny.
I just watched Parks & Rec and it was the best episode ever! Show is getting so good. I would recommend last’s nights episode if you have never watched the show or not watched it recently.
@ Doc Michaels,
The Office was good last night. Parks & Rec and Community had what I think are there best episodes yet. If anything 30 Rock was the weak link.
@TonyS
CW would never pull fourth, even with that line-up.
I said it last week and I think the same holds for this week: Baseball is obscuring the details too much here. The problem is Baseball’s a live event so the game ended at 8:30pm for the West Coast, 9:30p for Mountain and 10:30 for Central. So 8p-8:30p is the only time period where it shows are competiting against Baseball in every time zone.
Hence you have FlashForward and Survivor both appearing to take major tumbles but I think that’s largely because no one wants to jump into an hour long show half way through (though if you look at the numbers some did).
The really exciting news for me is that Community, which was the most impacted show being only a half hour, held it’s own. That seems like a really good sign to me.
I’m so glad to see Community up. People need to realize that it’s an absolutely hysterical show, and that P&R has become one. Both shows have obliterated The Office in terms of quality this season.
No kidding Tom, very encouraging for Community. I wonder why it went up. Word of mouth getting around? Announcement of full season pickup? Interesting…
Add me to the dvr ratings. NBC 8-10pm is all on my dvr, while I watched Game 2. I’ll watch them after the series is over.
Last Year at this time, Smallville was getting 4.3 Million viewers, more than The Vampire Diaries….Smallville was always in the 4 Million section, where TVD has only been in twice….Smallville was the better choice for the Thursday 7pm Slot. The Vampire Diaries should have been on Friday and left Smallville in it’s spot.
I am so happy about the ratings for Vampire Diaries. It really does get better each week, and every episode leaves me wanting more. Great characters and suspenseful storytelling~ what more could I ask for?
Parks continues to improve over season 1, just like the OFFICE.
Unfortunately, unlike the OFFICE it appears people gave up on it for good. Wish NBC would give it the post-OFFICE slot so people can discover how it has improved. It’s much better. SIGH
Fascinating ratings last night! I was curious to see what shows women would flock to since they probably won’t watch the World Series, and to my surprise the went to the CW Network OVER CBS and NBC! Vampire Diaries and Supernatural posted their highest adult ratings of the season whereas CBS shows declined and NBC stayed put.
Very interesting….
Also cannot see WHY NBC gave P & R an entire season. Another 2.1 rating last night – this show is DOA. Pull the plug.
I miss the days when we could see the 18-34 ratings as well. I wonder how The Office and Grey’s Anatomy are doing with them?
lol at someone saying Smallville is doing better than TVD even when smallville was on Thursday it NEVER reached 2.1 rating in demos EVER! sure it got high live ratings but TVD is kicking ass in both live ratings and demos. HA I laugh at these smallville fans.
it’s funny to me that people point out Parks should be cancelled, when it’s doing just as badly as Community, which everyone wants to see continue.
I think last night’s Parks & Rec episode will go down in the show’s history as a classic episode.
Parks is so much better than last year a very funny episode last night. Community was funny too although it has been uneven so far but there are pieces there the writers need time to put it together. Office was average last night.
When is the World Series over? It’s always so hard to choose between my shows and the Yankees.
I’ve read that FOX got a 5.3 for primetime portion of game last night, if that holds true they have a 1.8 head start over CBS for sweeps, bet they wish Game 1 could have aired during sweeps too, but at least it will go for at least 5 games. Interested to see if baseball gives them enough of a head start that they win sweeps.
CSI definitely can’t stay on at 9 beyond this season unless something dramatic happens, Mentalist does just as well at 10 and that was even when baseball was up in the 10 pm hour.
Good for Community & Parks, they are getting Christine/Gary type ratings and if those ratings are good enough for CBS, then they are even better for NBC, so it’s possible both could get renewed for next season, wouldn’t be shocking anyway.
FlashForward slipping, have to see if it bounces back at all when baseball over. With all the promos for “V” it seems as though ABC gave up on FF being the new LOST. I actually think them promoting it in that way hurt FF, because it is very different even if they do have a couple of actors from LOST on the show which might make it that much harder to make it seem like it’s own unique show.
All Melrose fans must be cursing the Vamp show since it is basically single handedly boosting the network’s average overall. But without it, the CW would literally have nothing to boast about at all.
Vampire Diaries is good for the CW economy lol
FlashForward’s ratings are going down alot international too it was super huge in Australlia and now it gets horrible ratings there and is in danger of being pulled
V is also planned to last a maximum of 4 seasons
wow at CSI, only a 3.3? thats not that great
im calling it… soon… there will b one thursday where CW beats NBC in the demos, im callin it now. I dont know when, but its gonna happen.
bob, not with Supernatural.. that show drags the night. Maybe for a 2 hour season finale/premiere?
I am abit new to TV ratings etc and sorry to ask a really stupid question but which figure is the correct viewing figure? For example at 10.00 The Mentalist got 15.21 but at 10.30 it got 14.62 so which is the definitive figure? Thanks!!
Alison, they are both correct, those are the averages for each half hour.
“BG the problem is not the game or the season but the lack of attention spans by America. Gosh just look at the crap on TV these days. It’s all about instant gratification…”
A Joss Whedon fan discovers sports!
I am not nearly as enthralled by Community as I am with the other 3 Thursday comedies on NBC, but overall I would say that this is my favorite 4-show Thursday group they have ever had.
flashforward its for people with brain….I hope ABC will give it a chance because its a great show, but you need to have some kind of IQ its not for everybody……thats for sure….I understand that pepole complains that the show its really bad….but thats because you need to think, so those people need to watch programs like Dancing with stars, (all of that creap of reality programs) ore all that medicine stuff like GA o PP…..maybe those are good shows too, but you don have to think to much…please keep making programs like FF, programs that have something more, something intersting, mekes us think…..I love FF, not like Lost but its great (Lost its for people who wants to think too, so those who don like to think and never saw any chapter of Lost, keep that way, we dont want to have people like you talking about the show)
I’m sorry but that excuse is old, and btw I love Lost and is way more complicated than Flashforward.. the problem with the show is that is way too slow and the writing/dialogue is very bland. They don’t need to remind me every 5 seconds that Olivia is having an affair.
Thanks Bill. Sorry to ask another stupid question but how then is the final figure reached (from those two figures) – the one that appears in the Nielsen Top 20 and ranks the show. Thanks! (final stupid question I promise!!)
@Alison, Theoretically, by averaging the two, but in reality it is usually a little different because of the variations between the overnights (that we see each morning) and the finals (usually posted by Travis Yanan around 5 Eastern).
The World Series is under performing for a series with the two hype teams of the Yanks and Phils. I believe the Red Sox got this kind of rating against a newer team in the Rockies. For the Yanks WS to be this close to that series through two games that is embarrassing.
If you disagree look at the World Series ratings before 1994. Baseballs to reestablish its sport to promote every team in the league.
@alex
I like flashforward too. It’s a good enough show to stay on the air…but to say that it makes you think more than grey’s or PP? I wouldnt agree. Grey’s anatomy is actually a very good show and is very intriguing. It makes you think on a lot of different levels. Private Practice is arguably less sophisticated, but it too requires thinking. I actually think Flashforward requires LESS thinking that Grey’s. LOST is a separate story. LOST is much much much better than Flashforward. It is smarter, more complicated, has deeper and more realized characters in its pilot episode than this series has in the past 6. Anyways, i still like flashforward, but i don’t see it as requiring too much thinking. It’s a show that has a core mystery that i wanna see solved and one or two interesting characters. It is, however, nothing special and needs to stop being compared to LOST because it can never ever live up to being half as great.
The CW really has their Thursday set!
Smallville would easily get 3.8-4.5 mil @ 9p but SPN would get like 2.0 mil on Friday, so it seems profitable to leave SV on Fridays, a VERY slow night. I think The CW will beat NBC next week at 8pm.
Its fun to see the results of guest stars on shows. Even one time appearances. last night , Dominic on FF, didn’t work for me. The babble trying to convince me he is physicist, lol. We had Wesley from TNG on Big Bang , that was great ! Much better than what they did with Summer Glau last year! Hey theres the terminator ? or was it Summer Glau, she didn’t say Anything ! Next on BB, Starbuck is coming, Whoot. Dollhouse is pushing Summer (crazy as usual role) but it will flop like Dominic did for FF.
Holly, thank you for clarifying that for me. I understand it much better now!
Its all very interesting, it may be then that when the final figures are in The Mentalist and CSI will be neck and neck.
Jayy, I agree with you about Flashforward – I like it but in no way can it be compared to Lost. No other show comes close to being as inventive and continually mind boggling (literally) as Lost is!
Community, Parks & Recreation, Scrubs… All ratings losers and all shows that would be/were performing as least as well as 30 Rock in the post Office slot.
I know the critics and emmys love it but after 2 years of awards, endless promotion and press grabbing guest stars it is holding, what is a quite frankly poor 71% of the Office demo lead-in. Now I know its produced in-house so they want it to run for as long as possible but I still think NBC is crazy to be wasting its most (and arguably only) useful timeslot to launch a new hit.
Seriously, with the exception of the (completely uncomptaible “The Middle”, I can not think of a single camera comedy series on any network right now that would be holding any less of such a potent lead-in.
woah flashforward down all i can say is
CSI is CBS’ bottom show of the night.
Flash Forward is sub-3. Practice is sub-4. Grey’s still above 5.
Vampire Diaries actually did good flat-out in young women, and better than ABC/NBC in 18-49 relatively speaking.
Office>4, 30 Rock 3.
Looks like FlashForward took the biggest hit from baseball. ABC is still pretty firmly behind the show though – they did extend the season to 25 episodes – and as long as it holds above a 2.5 it’s probably good enough.
Nice to see Community and Parks held at least steady. While a 2.1 certainly isn’t anything to brag about, they are half-hour comedies so the standards for success are lower, and it’s NBC so the standards are even lower. As long as they roughly hold those numbers and don’t sink I think they both may actually live to see next season.
Ouch, Flash Forward. Seems to be the only show that was heavily affected by baseball (or perhaps it wasn’t baseball?). Grey’s held up really, really well in the 18-49 demo.
Poor CSI. Both Survivor and The Mentalist are ahead of it in the demo. I never thought I’d see the day where CSI would be CBS’s worst Thursday show.
It cracks me up to hear people write off Flashforward because it dips to a 2.7 airing against the world series. I bet it rebounds next week after people catch up on their dvr viewing.
I am thrilled that The Mentalist is doing so well. It’s my favorite series! Have you noticed when you don’t count the World Series, The Mentalist has the best overall ratings of any 10 pm show during week? WAY TO GO ‘THE MENTALIST’!!
You have to give props to Survivor holding on nicely even though this has turned into a very boring season. I’m hoping things pick up with the merge next week. Except for the near death experience last week, nothing much has happened except Foa Foa losing almost every challenge.
Its nice to see that people are discovering The Vampire Diaries’s awesomeness! It keeps getting better and better each week!
Grey’s was not very good last night, but its ratings remained steady.
Parks and Recreation and Community were the funniest last night! Funnier than The Office, which is rare.
FlashForward is one of those shows I want to like. I cant stop watching because I want to like it so bad. Though I have to say that last nights episode improved some.
alex writes, “flashforward its for people with brain….I hope ABC will give it a chance because its a great show, but you need to have some kind of IQ its not for everybody……thats for sure….I understand that pepole complains that the show its really bad….but thats because you need to think, so those people need to watch programs like Dancing with stars, (all of that creap of reality programs) ore all that medicine stuff like GA o PP…..maybe those are good shows too, but you don have to think to much…please keep making programs like FF, programs that have something more, something intersting, mekes us think…..I love FF, not like Lost but its great (Lost its for people who wants to think too, so those who don like to think and never saw any chapter of Lost, keep that way, we dont want to have people like you talking about the show)”
And you’re not just whistling Bingo!
“Vampire Diaries” beat “Parks and Recreation” in key demos. “Parks” may not have any laughs, but that’s sure funny.
Anyone watch “The League” on FX last night? Any numbers for that? The critics are slamming it hard. I figured that probably meant it was a funny and well-cast show. Sure enough, it was. One hysterical scene towards the end had me in stitches. I guess FX didn’t send out as nice gift certificates to the critics as NBC did with the nope-still-as-unimproved-as-ever “Parks.”
So is CSI
Is CSI doing bad or good? They have a lot of people whating there show but bad in the Demos can you help me out?
Phil, Is CSI doing much worse than it has in the past? Yes.
Is it doing relatively bad for its (very important) timeslot? Yes.
Could that cause it to move timeslots at some point? Yes.
Is it even remotely in danger of not getting a new season? No.
Any idea when we will get ratings for last nights MLS playoff game on ESPN2?
It will probably be the highest rated MLS game of the year, because of Seattle.
I’m also one of the viewers who wants to like FF but am just not feeling it so much.. It has so much potential and maybe that’s why I’m wanting to like it so bad but the show is just missing something. It’s not focusing on so much of the what/why/who/how aspect of the blackout as it is on the flashforwards. And I’m sick of Olivia and her flashforward. Granted, I haven’t watched last night’s epidosde yet and based on what ppl are saying, it seems to have improved a bit, so we’ll see.
Good to see VD gaining more and more viewers, although I was actually expecting a little less because based on certain areas, there was a glitch with the network and the voices and lips were not in sync. I don’t know if that happened to anyone else. It finally cleared up by the half hour but it was really annoying and distracting. But based on the #s, not everyone experienced it.
lasat nights flashforward wasnt good either it was actually Olivia centered too
I gave up on both The Vampire Diaries and FlashForward after their first few weeks of epic suckitude, but I think the hype has convinced me to give VD another shot. It’s nice to see the CW have a new hit, as they certainly can’t cost off ANTM and Smallville forever.
As for FlashForward, I’m curious to see what happens to the ratings after the big April episode where all is revealed. Will viewers stick around, or will they flee like they should have weeks ago?
Parks and recs didn’t air on the Detroit affiliate, they had some medical special on.
Good news for Community, that was a great episode too.
Ironically, that was the unfunniest episode of The Office ever… even worse than the first season when it was just a copy of the British version minus the charm.
I don’t think anyone should be worried about FlashForward either. It will jump back up when the WS is over. And by the way, I remember Lost being a little slow at first too. Shows need time to build, which is something they just don’t get anymore.
Anyone remember when Cheers was going to get cancelled because of its terrible ratings? Everyone likes to think their favorite show was totally awesome right out of the gate… if you go back and watch the first season, you’d probably see that they weren’t as awesome as you remember.
Bingo question: Does the comment count for bingo if it’s about a show that isn’t actually low-rated, just apparently not as highly rated as the fan wants it to be?
What’s Cheers?
DW Vampire diaries started the huge improvements after episode 4 (i assume thats where you stopped?).
episodes 5 ,6 and 7 were all pretty amazing
Many shows first seasons are not great, CSI: NY and NCIS are my example, even Seinfeld didn’t take off until its second or third season.
Baseball again is number one….
I love baseball….
Flashforward needs a bigger carrot or a shorter stick.
Ouch for Flashforward hopefullly will bounce back. Dominic Monaghan was awesome as Simon was awsome hopefully well get more of him.
FFs Biggest problem imo is there focusing to much on characters and not enought of the mystery we dont need to be remined every 5 seconds olivia is going to have an affair or Demetri didnt seem a thing or mark starts drinking again hopefully itll go back up to 3.0s nexted week and these problms are just teething problems.
Just shaking my head. Heading into the local news in the last half hour, NBC’s competition has it doubled up, tripled up, and quadrupled up. I would love to see the local news ratings if you guys could find them. That is still the untold story about NBC that is going to explode eventually.
Oops, looks like I shortchanged FOX. They actually had NBC quintupled up.
FOX surely has helped, in fact they were 4th place this whole time so far this season.
In Regards to CSI, you need to remember that it does come in #1 in its timeslot for total viewers(well, not last night because of the world series). So far this season it has regularly beaten Grey’s Anatomy in Total viewers and even though its audience is way down compared to the “Grissom Years”(this show at one time used to average over 30 million viewers), I see it in No Danger of being cancelled or even being moved to a new timeslot.
If any shakeup occurs, it will be cast changes. I have always Liked Laurence Fishburne as an Actor but he is so Ill Suited for his CSI role, he has no chemistry with the other actors on the show.
THE VAMPIRE DIARIES!!!!!
THE VAMPIRE DIARIES , you Rock my World !!!
@ tom, no chemistry? It’s a show where they spend time looking at DNA and fingerprints for 40 mins and 5 mins arresting or killing the murderer(s), what chemistry do you need? Remember, we’re talking about CSI, not The OC or Gossip Girl…
I know this seems like a long shot but CSI could take The Good Wife’s old time slot and Thursday could get a new show. What do you think?
Ouch on the FlashForward drop, my suggestion that its moving to be paired with Lost doesn’t seem so insane now does it!
On another note it only took five episodes for The Mentalist to beat CSI in the demo. It’ll be interesting to see if it can do that next week without the baseball factor.
medialife reported that as a series-low for CSI in the demo…even when compared to its time on Friday nights in Season 1?
Chris the TV Sage, sadly, we lack the individual show historical data that’s needed to check a claim like that.
Though we lack the historical archive, we do not lack access to people who do have access. The 3.4 was a series low for an original airing of CSI. FOX and others reported this information and didn’t specify as Thursday only. But we cannot verify against Friday numbers. Edit: but since the Friday episodes were nine years ago, can that be a huge surprise?
I can’t find too much too easily from that far back, but I did find one article from November 2000 which put CSI in the top 10 according to household rating. So I would guess that 3.4 is the lowest demo rating including Friday.
Is The Mentalist doing good or bad in its time slot?
Phil, The Mentalist is CBS’s 2nd best performer at 10 pm. Expectations were pretty high for it, so some people seem to be disappointed, but it will definitely be renewed at these numbers.
Flashforward was so hyped to be the next LOST, and it built people’s expectations up, so when they watched, it was only ok.
Which is fine, but when you expect a show to be good and it’s only ok, it makes you feel like the show’s terrible.
Dominic Monaghan said something like it’s a dumbed down version of LOST.
It’s slowly become like Jericho/Prison Break.
Maybe the CW should put the Vampire Diaries on at 9:00 to compete with Grey’s and CSI. Just switch with Supernatural.
They wouldn’t switch the two shows because the ratings wouldn’t be as good in the 9:00 time slot, but, if they did, I suppose it would prove a point. And why kill their prize show when it is doing so well?
VAMPIRE DIARIES is an awesome show. It just keeps getting better and better….
Great to see they made the 2.0 and they’re up to 4 million viewers.