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| Rating/Share: Adults 18-49 | 1.9/6 | 1.4/5 | 1.4/5 | 1.2/4 | 0.8/3 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 7.90 | 6.70 | 5.44 | 3.76 | 1.94 |
FOX ran a two hour repeat of House last night, and over the two hours it averaged a 1.2 adults 18-49 rating and 3.6 million users. For the night, with adults 18-49, that’s a 50% improvement over the combo of new episodes of Brothers, ‘Til Death and Dollhouse. And in the 9pm-10pm hour House averaged a 1.3 adults 18-49 rating – 62.5 percent better than Dollhouse did in the hour last week. The House rerun beat Ugly Betty with adults 18-49 as well.
Sorry Dollhouse fans 
The CBS dramas were the strongest of the night, though still down across all hours versus last year. But even being down versus last year, Ghost Whisperer’s 2.0 with adults 18-49 was the best showing of the night. Smallville pulled a 1.2 with adults 18-49, a season high , tying The Jay Leno Show, which was a series low. Smallville could drop in the finals a bit, in the Chicago market a Chicago Bulls game aired. Its numbers would be included below but will be stripped out in the finals.
Some notes on Smallville from the CW:
- Smallville climbed to it’s best adults 18-49 (1.2/4), adults 18-34 (1.2/5-tie) and total viewers (2.6mil) of the season.
- This also marks our best performance in the time period in those categories since Sept. 08 (last Smackdown telecast).
- Smallville was #1 in the hour among men 18-34 (1.4/6) and men 18-49 (1.4/5).
Full details:
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating/Share | Viewers (Millons) |
| 8:00 | CBS | Ghost Whiperer | 2.0/7 | 8.28 |
| NBC | Law & Order | 1.4/5 | 7.00 | |
| ABC | Supernanny | 1.3/4 | 4.84 | |
| CW | Smallville | 1.2 | 2.60 | |
| FOX | House (R) | 1.1 | 3.40 | |
| 9:00 | CBS | Medium | 1.8/6 | 7.69 |
| NBC | Dateline | 1.7/6 | 7.95 | |
| FOX | House (R) | 1.3 | 4.17 | |
| ABC | Ugly Betty | 1.2 | 4.50 | |
| CW | America’s Next Top Model (R) | 0.5/2 | 1.27 | |
| 10:00 | CBS | Numb3rs | 1.8/6 | 7.74 |
| ABC | 20/20 | 1.6/5 | 6.94 | |
| NBC | The Jay Leno Show | 1.2/4 | 5.14 |
You can see TV ratings from other recent Overnight ratings reports here.
Nielsen TV Ratings: ©2009 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
Definitions:
Fast Affiliate Ratings: These first national ratings, including demographics, are available at approximately 11 AM (ET) the day after telecast, and are released to subscribing customers daily. These data, from the National People Meter sample, are strictly time-period information, based on the normal broadcast network feed, and include all programming on the affiliated stations, sometimes including network programming, sometimes not. The figures may include stations that did not air the entire network feed, as well as local news breaks or cutaways for local coverage or other programming. Fast Affiliate ratings are not as useful for live programs and are likely to differ significantly from the final results, because the data reflect normal broadcast feed patterns. For example, with a World Series game, Fast Affiliate Ratings would include whatever aired from 8-11PM on affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone, following the live football game, but not game coverage that begins at 5PM PT. The same would be true of Presidential debates as well as live award shows and breaking news reports.
Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.
Share (of Audience): The percent of households (or persons) using television who are tuned to a specific program, station or network in a specific area at a specific time. (See also, Rating, which represents tuning or viewing as a percent of the entire population being measured.)
Time Shifted Viewing – Program ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.
For more information see Numbers 101 and Numbers 102.
That has got to be a new 18-49 low for Leno
it was
is it a new series high for smallville????
Poor Betty ratings, numbers are still not improving and Supernanny outrated it
Smallville is doing relatively well on this night.
Although CBS still won, the fact that they are struggling to get 2.0 is just sad, I’m really afraid Friday will be another Saturday sooner.
It should be noted the Chicago CW showed a Bulls game so Smallvilles number will go down when the finals come in
House got more viewers, but the demo remains around the same area.
ABC needs to get UB off of Fridays. A loss in viewership was expected, but these ratings are ridiculous for a show that was opening Thursdays with a 2.0 in adults at the end of last season. ABC can do better on Fridays with Wife Swap, and UB could, most likely, outrate Eastwick on Wednesdays. The Wednesday 9pm comedies must do well in young women, correct? That’s UB’s key demo.
George, yes it was.
John, you have rose-colored memory. a 1.3 is not the same as a .8.
Sure, Dollhouse USED to get 1.3’s (and even higher), but that was last year. Comparing how House did last night to how Dollhouse did last year seems silly though. Much easier and better to just compare it to last week.
actually ugly betty was stable vs last week!thats good!!!
These numbers seem lousy even for a Friday. Except Numb3rs, which was even with Medium?
Supernanny beat Ugly Betty. Yikes.
DVR boosted Dollhouse up to the 1.0s, a repeat isn’t going to get much recording, is it?
“Ugly Betty” is just slacking off this season – the quality in the storylines is not anywhere NEAR where it was the first few seasons. I’m not surprised that “Supernanny” and “Jay Leno” are outperforming this show….it’s like the writers know the show is done after this year, and they don’t give a flying crap anymore.
John the last new episode of Dollhouse pulled a 0.8 in 18-49, last night, House pulled a 1.3 in 18-49 in Dollhouse’s slot, if Dollhouse was around the same area in the demo as a house rerun, us fans wouldn’t be as worried as we are now, reality’s already set in for me, Dollhouse’s series finale will be episode 13 of season 2.
Doug(2) the Wednesday comedies perform OK w/W18-34. They lose BADLY to So You Think You Can Dance and Glee in that demo, but are ahead of everything else.
John, that’s true, with Live+7 last week’s Dollhouse will likely bump up to a 1.2 and still be behind the repeat of House. But sadly DVR viewing doesn’t pay the bills
Have CBS renewed Ghost Whisperer on an average of a 2.3 demo before?
If FOX would stick that House repeat as a lead-in for Dollhouse, maybe we would see a change. I don’t see any reason to bring ‘Till Death back, as soon as it returned, Dollhouse’s ratings dropped even more.
Smallville was a season high, not a series high. Huge difference
WOW @ Betty! I actually had a dream last night that ABC moved Betty to Sundays @ 8 after AFV. It’s definitely not coming back next season.
Oooh Yay Smallville!! It really seems to have founds its feet on Fridays, okay it’s low but it’s stable and good for Fridays
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Season 10 seems viable to me now! Wehay – I love this show, just keeps getting better and better. It’s so fun and cheesy and romantic and cute and badass and… I could go on.
my mistake!i ment season high!!!
sorry!!!
LOl if a house re-run is doing this much good at friday time slot , leave friay for house and give dollhouse another day to build it’s audiunce for an entrire 6 seasons
Someone has to give props to Smallville. Considering the fact that it TIED with Ugly Betty and The Jay Leno Show, both of which are “younger” series, it’s impressive for a show in its ninth season.
Surely, had Dollhouse aired last night, SV would’ve beat it too. What’s also interesting about it is the fact that L&O only got a 1.4, so SV is doing just fine if you ask me.
However, it was preempted in Chicago, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the overall number dropped to 2.4, which will be made up with DVR later.
Go Smallville!
If CW had a good lead-out for Smallville, they could actually be competive on fridays, Mid season i’m looking at them moving supernatural to fridays at 9, on thursday its female ratings are looking bad compared to Vampire diaries 1.4 w18-34 vs VD’s 3.2 18-34. Dawn has to tighten the schedule, its a shambles, mid-season should be
Mondays
Gossip Girl
melrose place
Tuesdays
90210
One Tree Hill
Wednesdays
Antm encore
Antm- new episode- while cycle finished, their reality slate.
Thurday
Vampire Diaries
Life Unexpected
Friday
Smallville
Supernatural
I had some mistakes in the viewers part of the table (had Ugly Betty and Smallville reversed). I have fixed
Ah, well. None of us “Dollhouse” fans were really expecting a SECOND season, so we’ll just count these final thirteen episodes as an unexpected gift. Obviously it’s not going to get a third season, but hey, maybe Whedon’ll pull a “Buffy” and start a third season in the form of comic books. At least “Dollhouse” is guaranteed all thirteen season two episodes unlike Dushku’s last drama, “Tru Calling,” (also on FOX) which was only allowed to do six of its second season’s episodes.
Still, it’s kind of embittering even more toward FOX — “Dollhouse” was way too serious and dark for the few viewers who actually stayed home and watched TV on Fridays, it’s not like it ever would have been a smashing success, but still: picture if FOX had actually NOT started the show off on the Friday-night Death Slot, actually promoted it, given it good lead-ins, and then not demanded the (fairly) bad five first episodes of the first season. Oh, well. At least they didn’t pull a “Firefly” again…but, officially, If I ever hear that a show is premiering on FOX’s Friday schedule again, I don’t care HOW interesting it looks/is, I’m not going to try it, because FOX will invariably cancel it.
Did you know that if you look up “Friday night death slot” on Wikipedia, FOX’s list of cancelled series after they moved/premiered the show on Fridays is at least TWICE the size of CBS, ABC, AND NBC? Methinks the FOX execs would’ve learned something by now.
Does anybody else think that now that CBS has “Ghost Whisperer” paired with “Medium” and “Numb3rs” — three fairly family-friendly shows that appeal to the stay-at-home parents and children on Friday nights crowd — all in a row that they’re never going to stop winning the Friday night contest? Maybe I’m wrong, but we all know one thing for sure — FOX will always lose it!
Anonymous – are you experiencing similar lows for Jay Leno in Toronto/City TV? I remember you posted mid-September City had better year-over-year numbers with Leno at 10, if I’m not mistaken.
The Series High of Smallville is 9.4 mil viewers. (Season 2 Episode “Redux”)
@Paul,
Your schedule makes more SENSE than what The CW is actually doing now.
Given how well TVD is doing for the network, it would be a safer gamble to premiere Life Unexpected there because it would have a strong lead-in.
Wednesday still seems like a sore spot for The CW, though, but encoring ANTM before the newest episode makes sense.
The pairing of SN with SV was always a good one in my eyes, so I don’t see how much worse SN could do on Fridays than its doing now on Thursday.
That schedule is far better than anything Dawn DOPEstroff could ever dream up…LOL
I really wish Ugly Betty would do better, I know it’s the usual fan excuse but I just hope ABC decides to change it back to Thursdays. I mean seriously! What was ABC thinking? I’m sure their intention wasn’t to kill the show, but right now they are doing just that. Wake up ABC!!!
@ Andrew, i’ll marry her and run the network, i’ll take her name – Paul Ostroff:L Honestly she has to get her act together and shuffle the schedule to something that makes sense, Gossip Girl and Melrose are scandalous shows, too me the perfect pairing, 90210 and OTH are more sombre, calmer shows, why can’t she see her mess? i mean shes touting increased ratings this year, just because teen girls wouldn’t notice that sundays aren’t longer broadcasting, thats where the gain is from. Gossip is down by wide margins, last year it was pulling 3+ million, now its struggling to pull 2, i think the network is run by teenage girls tbh:L
Yikes, I meant SEASON high for Smallville with adults 18-49, not SERIES high. Halloween is turning out frightful for me.
@ Paul & @ Andrew
If Dawn moves Supernatural to Fridays she can expect people with torches and pitch forks outside of her office. People are already mad she moved Smallville.
Here’s an idea instead of showing a repeat on Wednesday put your new show there. That would be the non stupid thing to do.
Smallville is doing better on fridays than Gossip Girl, 90210, Melrose Place. So we should be proud.
Big hello from Croatia
Ren – from what I hear about Ugly Betty, ABC(or whoever owns the rights to the show) just wants to give it one more season so it goes over 100 episodes. In terms of syndication that is a big number
@ chrisjozo
Supernatural is either cancelled or moved time periods at the end of the season unless our big teenage girl Dawnie’s head is still full of air. SN is losing way over half of of VDs women 18-34 demos.
That makes sense, Derek, but the numbers don’t lie: UB could do much better in another timeslot (and has done better), and ABC could do better on Fridays with another, cheaper series. ABC can’t be happy with the complete collapse of the show in the demo. I can’t see ABC letting it ride out the season on Fridays; either it gets pulled, or it gets moved to another night.
Just having a look at UK tv in the 9pm hour this is how many were watching tv
mon 24.4m tue 22.7m wed 22.1 thu 23.7m fri 23.7m sat 26.6m sun 26.1m
with network tv accounting for 60-75% of tv viewing in primetime.
No real point just think it’s interesting, wonder how other countries compare and if they watch less tv on a weekend like in US
Guys,I come here again.
I am a Chinese.
I love smallville very much!
I can not speak English well, so I an only say this words!
good luck!
@ chrisjozo,
The more torches, the better! What has Dawn been smoking since 2006? The only reason I was in agreement that SN be moved is because, to me, SN appeals to more male viewers, much like SV, so it really doesn’t make much sense to pair it with TVD at all since that’s clearly something more women would watch. Once SN comes on, I’m sure a lot of them tune out, too.
Doug2 – I don’t watch Ugly Betty so I don’t know what the best solution would have been(for ABC), but I am guessing a move to Wednesday at 8 would make sense instead of the 2 comedies they there
@andrew
Don’t be sure, be certain. On Thursday night based on Final Ratings, The Vampire Diaries had a 3.2 rating in w18-34. supernatural was on afterwards and could only muster a 1.4 in w18-32, so it lost 1.8, over half. Dawn is just st stupid, i can imagine her with her specially made Pink Iphone that has the Gossip Girl app on it, if i somehow die i’m sure Dawn has seen this and tracked my ip and sent a vampire after me.
Dullhouse is finished. Limping along with 2 million viewers and key demo under 1.0 is terrible. Im still amazed it was renewed after last season.
Fact is, almost no one but die hard Whedonites care about it.
Just proves, yet again, how much of a failure Dollhouse is.
If Ugly Betty hadn’t been on, I would have watched the House rerun. And I don’t think Betty should move back to Thursday. The show would very likely do poorly there, and FlashForward is getting settled in with better numbers than Betty had been getting at that time. Where could Betty fit? I guess 8pm on Tuesday (the slot V will have for a while). Or else just stay on Friday and play out the run. It’s been a fun one.
This is how I see this, Ugly Betty would do well over 5 mil if it moved to a better timeslot such as Wednesdays 10/9c and have a better lead in than Supernanny. It’s Friday ratings basically are just touching Eastwick numbers. Or just move it to Wednesdays at 8/7c because Hank is failing; and The Middle could move with Scrubs when Better off Ted fails. Plus, it’s easy competion in that time slot.
Moving Supernatural to Fridays at 9 would be a great idea. Both Smallville and Supernatural appeal to a more male audience and would work very well on Friday.
And those people who are mad about Smallville moving to Fridays, Dawn should tell them either go out after the show, watch it online, or buy a friggen DVR. Seriously just get over it. The show is in its 9th season.
It would be nice if Ugly Betty could pull at least a 1.5
How did White Collar do?
I think a proper CW schedule would be have Vampire Diaries on Wednesday nights at 9 and it has the same viewers watching ANTM so it would do even better I think. Plus, then Smallville can return to it’s Thursday slot and leave Friday nights as their reality slot
Any Supernatural fan knows that creatively, the writers want this to be the show’s last season. Therefore the CW may not see a need to move the show anytime soon.
@ Alec – your kidding right? Dawn will never move their number 1 show after building it’s audience on Thursdays.
Maybe Fox should rename Dollhouse to “(doll) HOUSE”. If they can have Hugh Laurie guest star, with a bit of luck, that’ll save the show!
Supernatural is doing fine this year, as well as last year. Vampire Diaries is a unexpected unseen before blockbuster for CW, its why a 1.2 looks so “bad” its all relative. I will say creatively SN is all done, its over after this year and its time. We’ve seen Young Dean, double Dean, Dean down a different path, old Dean,singing Dean..lol.Anyone notice this with Smallvile, it must be a victim of having 9 seasons, but more than any other show, the writers here taken successful formulas and paint them to Smallville. Last night, started off , Fight Club, rolled in to Pretty Woman, the boots, the car, the clothes, then it was a redux of the last Superman movie,Superman Returns with the slo mo bullet out of the gun on a rooftop, heading for a eye shot. But it all worked. And ended with a kiss!
Go Smallvile
Alec, they need their best performing shows with adults 18-49 on Thursdays. That’s where the ad dollars are. And I think you can’t have ANTM or The Vampire Diaries up against Grey’s, so throwing a male-skewing Supernatural in the slot against Grey’s makes sense.
“Everyone was getting their Halloween costumes ready”
“Everyone was getting ready for Saturday’s World Series Game 3″
Alas, too late for the first version of the bingo cards.
I think it’s smart of the networks to move shows that are in their last year or two of existence (Smallville, Ugly Betty, etc) to Fridays. Networks have to launch new hits to stay in the game, and to do so they need their newer shows in cushy time slots. Otherwise every network will end up like NBC, and no one wants that.
I know everyone wants their favorite shows to go on forever, but everything needs to be put out to pasture sometime.
God this is so frustrating! Ghost Whisperer, Medium and N3umbers arn’t even that good of shows yet they pull the best numbers. Ugly Betty, (and I hear Dollhouse as well) are GREAT shows but they cant compare! WTF.
You know what I dont get? If ABC really wants to end Ugly Betty, why didnt they just do it last season? Why waste their time on a Friday where they KNEW it would do bad? They should really rethink where Betty’s timeslot is. I REALLY REALLY REALLY think it should be on Wednesdays in their “comdedy night”. It can do so much better than this, and it has!
I LOVED Betty last night. It was a great episode
Betty was awesome last night!! At least it didnt exactly go to down right? It had the same demo and basicaly the same viewers so thats good.
ABC should honestly move it’s time slot after the winter breaks because it can do MUCH better somewhere else. I only worry that fans will get even more confused because I know that a lot of people didnt even know it was moved to fridays.
If they move Betty to their “Comedy Wednesdays”, then promotion shouldnt be a problem since they over promote Modern Family and the mediocre Cougar Town a lot.
Funny I’m finding Betty so much better this season than last. Lots oh lol’s. It’s so fresh and different. Personally I like fresh and Different but appartently I’m in the minority. How a house could do so well stumps me but I feel the same way about all of CBS shows no originality what so ever, at least CW and abc tries.
Good for Smallville.
Oh Tks, i agree with on House- very bleak show. But some CBS shows are interesting.
I don’t think Betty’s going anywhere. ABC’s going to air the episodes sometime and unlike the 3 fall casualties last season (Pushing Daisies, Eli Stone, Dirty Sexy Money) they don’t have any future hopes for the show. They put it on Friday because they didn’t expect much and just wanted the episodes for syndication. Could they get an extra 0.1 or 0.2 ratings points from something like Supernanny? Maybe, but I don’t think the effort is worth it for them to do that shuffling.
I don’t think Betty will get to 100 episodes. It will have 87 at the end of this season, and my guess is that ABC calls it quits there, although depending on what else they have in development, adding another 22 next season (ala, According to Jim) isn’t completely out of the question.
Smallville is in it’s 9th season but It feels new and it’s fun. I’m glad it is holding it’s own on Friday’s. Go Smallville!
I agree Smallville is quite good this season.
chuck
Anna – I think the CBS friday lineup does well because it has mass appeal. I refer to CBS as the grandma and grandpa network because it seems to get alot of older viewers, but those are the viewers more likely to watch TV on friday nights
When push comes to shove I have to say CBS is the smartest network out there. They really don’t seem to care about Demo’s or “target” audiences and just put on shows that get high ratings and let the rest take care of themself.
It’s much easier to promote other shows on the network when you have alot of viewers watching other shows. You can then promote how you have the #1 show on Tuesday Nights, or #1 New Comedy on those other shows and people will be curious about why it rated so high(not caring about Demos or Target Audience). It’s sort of keeping up with the Jones mentality of promotion.
Pffff only 62.5%, got anything better than that?
unrelated news: TRAUMA IS CANCELLED AFTER IT AIR IT’S 13TH EPISODE!
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/nbc-cancels-trauma-.html
im confused on guide it says Smallville is new on sunday because yesterday the basketball game was on at the time smallville is supposed to be on. I live in illinois and so did i miss it?
There was no new Smallville or Dollhouse last night.
I don’t know what u people are talking about
lol at people saying they should switch The massive hit Vampire Diaries to Wednesdays when TVD is a total success in both live ratings and demos. Stop complaining already smallville fans there’s been 9 seasons already they need to just cancel that shit already he doesn’t even fly and it’s been 9 seasons. The show already jumped the ship. Looks like The CW got an early Xmas gift from Vampire Diaries.
Dollhouse’s woes are well documented, seeing as dollhouse never got the chance to compete on any other night besides Fridays death slot, I would say it’s numbers are pretty good. My question is, what kind of numbers do you think a NEW episode of House would put up in dollhouse’s current slot? We’ve seen what brutal time slots have done to fringe this year, atleast fringe had the benefit of a plum slot after American idol to build up it’s fanbase, dollhouse never got that chance.
@ Paul
“your kidding right? Dawn will never move their number 1 show after building it’s audience on Thursdays.”
That is such a contradicting statement because…. what the hell was on BEFORE VD?!
Derek, “When push comes to shove I have to say CBS is the smartest network out there. They really don’t seem to care about Demo’s or “target” audiences and just put on shows that get high ratings and let the rest take care of themself.”
CBS is very well run, but make no mistake, they care about the demos. Very much.
Smallville, exactly what hoops the residents of the Land of Lincoln (or perhaps just the Windy City) will have to go through to see last night’s Smallville are unknown to us.
nemo, http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/28/trauma-canceled-by-nbc-no-new-episodes-will-be-ordered/31930.
Please do not spam the comments with 3 day old news.
Tks – I agree, Betty is one of the funniest, bold, bright and creative shows out there. It deserves more recognition.
Bill – that’s a little reasurring =) I think Betty will get a full season run too.
Its really really upsetting to see such an amazing show like Betty get these numbers. The same this happened with Pushing Daisies..although PD didnt get moved to Fridays lol. Last nights episode was outstanding
It never ceases to amaze me how much more fans are interested in re-arranging network schedules than the networks themselves, but I’m sure it never ceases to amaze some people how crazy I am for the numbers
m, Nobody saw a new Dollhouse, but most of the country saw a new Smallville. Chicagoans (and perhaps more) the exception.
@ RM89
not entirely, Smallville was their number 1 show in male demos, CW wants female shows, so while smallville could have been classed as their number 1 show last year, it wasn’t number 1 where it mattered, Vampire Diaries is:)
To people in Chicago area. SV was pre-empted in Chicago for the Bulls game and I believe they will show it sometime on Sunday. Sadly, the SV ratings will take a hit when final numbers come out and you factor out all the People who watched the Bulls game.
Bill you have any numbers for the amount of viewers in Chicago on Friday by anychance?
Friday night isn’t really a death slot for some shows — CBS & NBC have figured out works on Fridays. You have to put on a show that people don’t have to watch all the time to follow. Crime works best, even Medium and Ghost Whisperer have crime themes. You can tune into GW, Medium or Law & Order and know what to expect. Most people are going to watch these shows live, too, since missing an episode isn’t a problem. People don’t want to think too hard when they’re watching something on Friday night, and crime shows appeal to a broad demographic. Friday was a terrible night for Dollhouse, a show that’s dark, requires watching almost every episode and appeals to a younger audience. Smallville is probably doing OK there because it already has a following, and a young following of DVR-savvy viewers.
Fire Dawn, we see local numbers only occasionally through press reports, but as Robert noted, its unlikely that a basketball game makes a huge difference in the final numbers. Football, yes. Playoff baseball, perhaps. Regular season basketball or hockey, not so much.
i think thats totally not fair for smallville and its supposed to be on tomorrow at 7pm (in illinois idk the times for other places) on channel 9 but it wasnt really fair to them.
Smallville is doing more than “OK” on Friday’s, it has a higher 18-49 ratings average vs. its network’s overall 18-49 average than any other show on Friday night.
For the CW, Smallville is doing *great* on Fridays.
thats good to hear bill thanks from me and all the smallville fans. Also we kind’ve figured that considering you said
(F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays have been RENEWED with significantly lower than average Indexes.Smallville (F), and smallville has been doing a great job.
My opionion: I think the move to friday nights may have been a bad idea still but i dont think that it being on fridays has done much damage to it.
I think they should move Ugly Betty to The Forgotten or Eastwick’s slot… It would do better and deserves to be seen.
Does anyone have an idea of how much the drop will be for Smallville once they take out the Chicago market? Just wondering what to anticipate, especially since Chicago is such a huge market. Still, the ratings are excellent news for Smallville!
First off, Everyone needs to take a good look at the numbers, “Ugly Betty” is done. Which is very hard for myself to say cause I’m a “Betty” fan. Secondly, “Ugly Betty” is a very expensive show to produce so if she’s not bringing home the bacon to ABC then sadly, yes, the right thing to do is to move it to friday. Do I like the move? No, But thats just the way it is, you can’t blame ABC, if you wanna blame someone, blame the lack of viewers.
Hmmm – it’s really icky to call that Thursday night vampire show on the CW “VD”…
…can we all just call it Diaries, since “V” is already taken?
As for Betty – it was hockey night in Minnesota for me, after Law and Order – sorry, Betty, I prefer Finns
Supernanny is my wife’s first choice at 8, and my second choice – fortunately for me, she watched it at my niece’s, leaving me free for L&O – plus, Supernanny repeats on abc.com, and L&O does not
I don’t know what I will watch tonight – I hate the Yankees, Phillies, Notre Dame, USC, and all things CSI…hmm, there’s a Rosalind Russell special on my local PBS affiliate, and a test pattern marathon on channel 1
House rerun at 8-9 pm did not perform any better than TSCC’s last year Friday average ~1.3 demo 3.6?m viewers, despite some guys here claimed last year… Congratulations John Reilly…
Zubair – I am just taking a wild guess but I expect the Bulls game to be anywhere between 100-200k. But that is just random speculation based on nothing
And would everyone stop talking bout moving “Ugly Betty” to this night or that night? You’re gonna give everyone “3rd Rock From The Sun” syndrome.
Ugly Betty on Friday isn’t doing much worse than Eastwick or The Forgotten… it has the benefit of longtime viewers that would more likely watch on a different night
I don’t believe that airing Dollhouse on another day would have made any difference. If anything in my opinion their ratings would be lower due to more competition. I do think that TSCC was a good lead in for Dollhouse since they both attracted the same type of viewers being SCIFI shows. However, in my opinion Dollhouse had a flawed concept (I don’t see women flocking to see a series where female characters get repeated raped in every episode for money). It had other problems also (like Eliza Dushku not being able to carry a show by herself) but its concept was its biggest problem. And for whatever reason, Joss Whedon didn’t retool the series over the summer hiatus to address the main issues.
Actually, Rafe, remember the Murphy Brown episode, where they’re all in Lansing’s office, discussing scheduling, with the schedule board behind his desk?
Friday nights now are the “crap slots” he was referring to then
Betty was AMAZING last night!!! I’m glad the numbers are at least stable from where it was last week.
oh yeah, HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
I have only been watching smallville with the start of this season and am actually enjoying it…A bit lost with some things but like it….
I also really liked the medium halloween episode
As the CW is seeking the 18-34 numbers (and specifically women), Smallville isn’t doing that well. But it wasn’t ever going to do that well.
But I can understand the CW, the only success they have ever had (in either form of the Cw, UPN, or the WB) was WWE, a male driven show.
The only problem is that the CW didn’t have the development slate to cover all its time slots (let alone have backup material). So instead of having a solid Friday lineup, they have half a line up.
If the CW is still around next season, and if both SN and SV are both picked up I would like to see them both placed on Friday. I don’t expect much improvement, but having a full two hours of programming should certainly help them.
As to replacing SN on Thursdays, the only problem with that, is that current it is the most competitive time period for scripted programming. Grey’s dominates the female demo (both the young and the older demo groups). Currently none of the CW female driven shows competes with any program that gets as strong of a female audience as Grey’s (when Idol arrives it will exceed that).
And Thursday’s more then any other night needs a balance of male/ female audience due to the huge amount film’s spend on Ads. And unlike TV, film is much more male driven.
But the other hand I did expect SN to hold a little more the female demo’s (I honestly expected that it would hit about .2 higher then it has, of course I thought it’s male numbers would have dropped even lower).
Though it would be curious to place a female driven show in the 9pm hour to see how it could hold up to Grey’s.
Carol: I do believe the women & men demo is almost even for Dollhouse. Bill had posted some numbers awhile ago for an episode & I think it was W18-49 (1.0) M18-49 (.95). I can’t see those numbers changing much, just like the overall isn’t changing.
No one cares about Ugly Betty- the rates have been mediocre for years now…it will probably be cancelled after it reaches syndication numbers.
I Hope Law & Order can get to the 8 million mark soon and at least once beat Ghost whisperer and Medium.
I know this seems like a long shot but CSI could take The Good Wife’s old time slot and Thursday could get a new show. What do you think?
@Paul, The fact that Supernatural isn’t keeping VD’s lead is meaningless. Vampire diaries is a fluke because of the popularity of vampires in general. Unless she plans on scheduling all vampire shows nothing else is going to get those ratings on that network. Supernatural, One Tree Hill and Smallville have all been very consistent performers and unless the producer’s or the actors want them to end. Anything else will be network suicide.
Julie. Nobody cares about Ugly Betty? Have you looked at all these comment? Are you mentally retarted or can you just not read? Ugly Betty is a fantastic show and it’s your loss that you arnt watching. It’s a friday – what do you honestly expect? So next time, Julie, think before you talk.
I thought NBC would get a break tonight with the Notre Dame game, but it’s up against games between ranked teams on ABC and the World Series. I think it will do better than last week’s repeats but still place fourth behind CSI+ reruns.
J.R., those CBS repeats will only average about a 1.0 in the demo (maybe less because of all the sports), I think the Golden Domers could beat them. 48 Hours Mystery is more like a 1.4/1.5, which may be too much to hope for, even for Touchdown Jesus.
Vampire Diaries isn’t riding on anyone coattails people um SP and SV fans are just mad that TVD has taken over and is dominating both Live ratings and meeting he Demos that Dawn wants with women.
off topic but sorta breaking – This seems like heroes is getting the axe at the end of season 4:( http://www.tvfanatic.com/2009/10/nbc-source-this-will-be-final-season-of-heroes/
I’m sad that a show as smart as DOLLHOUSE can’t get viewers. And I’m sad that a show devoid of subtext as HOUSE can beat it so handily. I’ve given HOUSE a change several times and find it too simplistic for my tastes.
I think DOLLHOUSE worked better last year with TSCC as a lead in. BROTHER and ‘TIL DEATH are not well matched with DOLLHOUSE.
Speaking of lead ins, I think part of the problem with SUPERNATURAL this year is its lacking SMALLVILLE as a lead in. THE VAMPIRE DIARIES has had better ratings than SUPERNATURAL, but I think the two shows pull different audiences. But it is kind of sad that one of the CWs best rated shows is a 9-year-old show on Fridays. But that is what happens when a network slants all of its shows to women between the ages of 18 and 21. Isn’t that their chosen demographic (I’m being only a little facetious)?
Both Dollhouse and Ugly Betty will be cancelled after this season.
@John Titor
I am not a die hard whedonite and I love Dollhouse, i hadn’t even heard of him before i saw Dollhouse, so put that in your pipe and smoke it
P.S. I can name a number of people who luv it, and hedn’t seen a whedon show before
So, Bill, Robert… when are we gonna work on the “Best Excuse to Put Dollhouse in a Post” Bingo cards?
To Robert Vampire Diaries beating Supernatural is a understatement they are killing them! Supernatural never reached over 4 million viewers.
Another good episode for Smallville this week. It’s not so “gloomy gus” as it has been recently. I am deeply critical of CW management, and have said so before. But, thinking about it, I wonder if it has any choice to be anything other than what it is, in terms of programming. Would CBS actually let it be more mainstream? I don’t think Moonves would stand for actual, direct competition. It seems more likely it will be allowed to just wilt and disappear in due course. What a waste.
BINGO!
Smallville is comeing on Sunday November 1st at 7:00 p.m. and it’s all new
Clark kissing Lois!
Maybe Smallville should change its name to Metropolis.
I find it funny that it takes over 9 seasons and yet he’s still not superman lol
At first I was a little disappointed with Medium’s numbers. But it still held onto 93% of Ghost Whisperer’s total audience and 90% of its demos. Still respectable. Dateline must have been really tawdry yesterday to grab such a big number.
I see no use in moving Supernatural, Kripke has stated that Season 5 will be it’s last, and it’s been at the 9/8 Thursday timeslot for 3 and a half seasons.
Fire Dawn says:
“Zubair – I am just taking a wild guess but I expect the Bulls game to be anywhere between 100-200k. But that is just random speculation based on nothing”
Well, some context here:
http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/62322
One might idly speculate that any gain from being on WGN might be compensated by the Friday airing.
Trauma is produced for about 3,000,000.00 per and Law & Order is produced for about 2,500,000.00 per show….
Both show are in the dumper…
and Trauma has no chance of recovering much of anying…cost wise.
As for Leno…
His show comes in around 400,000 per and they can produce a full week of shows for less than the cost of one “scripted” show !!!!
Bottom line…
The average rating for each of these shows is not that much different…
So…Why would anyone at NBC want to dump leno’s show that comes in at 2 million per week and instead spend 10 million per week for new (untried) scripted shows that could be gone in less than 13 weeks.
Do the math.
If NBC wants to replace Leno…
then they would be much better off ($$$$$$$) wise by producing more and more unscripted shows….
LIVE WITH IT ….
SCRIPTED SHOWS ARE DEAD !!!! IN PRIME TIME.
The viewer pool is too small and the costs keep going up.
@Carol – While I agree that the concept for Dollhouse is not as good as Whedon’s previous shows, it’s not “women getting repeatedly raped” every week. That’s a dramatically misleading oversimplification.
House has 3.6 million what, now?
Alleycat: That’s what happens when you watch the first episode of season one. You can actually tell just from comments who has seen more than 3 episodes & those who have not.
betty hold on!
I say this every week and will probably continue to do so, but “Ugly Betty” deserved a much better time slot and its ratings performance is the fault of ABC, not the show’s. “Betty” bounced back beautifully last year after a sophomore season derailed by a strike.
Leading off Wednesday would have been a smarter option for ABC than to shunt it to the Friday graveyard.
And no — it’s not always smart for a network to shift a show to Friday to let it die. Sometimes a show needs a shot in the arm as opposed to a kick in the pants.
I think if Betty did decent on Fridays, it could have a shot for a 13-episode 5th season just to reach 100 episodes kinda like Boston Legal. Anyway, I just hope ABC decide already if this is the final season ala Prison Break last year so that we could get a proper closure of the show.
its great to see how many fans Ugly Betty still has. I think the storylines this season have never been better. Too bad ABC lost interest in that show 2 years ago.
Medium and Numb3rs are good shows (Medium is great) and GW s.u.c.k.s! this year. So frustrating it pulled more. It’s so BAD. Medium and Numb3rs were EXCELLENT episodes this week.
@Terrance,
Ugly Betty may have bounced back creatively, but it definitely did not bounce back ratings-wise. Would it be getting better numbers on another night? I’m sure. But the numbers would still be bad. It was barely maintaining a 2.0 on one of their biggest nights of the week, which just wasn’t acceptable for ABC. The reason it’s on Friday is so ABC could get the extra episodes for syndication without hurting their average too much.
how patethic that a house repeat beat a new Dollhouse. Im glad to see Medium win the 9Pm slot its the only good show on Friday.
It’s a shame that ABC is throwing away Ugly Betty, the show was such a darling of the viewers and critics during its first season. Even though seasons 2 and 3 I felt were not as good, I feel that this season it has bounced back creative wise but I’m afraid its too late. Once a show loses momentum, its almost impossible to get back. even if they did move it to a different night, it wont matter, the fans wont come back.
aznfratboy
Kripke isn’t contracted past the 5th season (both leads are), but Kripke has absolutely no say on when the show ends. And in fact this year as stated that he is open for a 6th season. Whether that means he personally is going to sign back up (if offered) or is just letting people know that the show could continue is anyones guess.
Joselito
It’s true that SN has never reached 4 million in viewers on Thursdays at 9pm.
But it isn’t true that SN has never reached 4 million viewers, far from it. But it has had audiences over 4 million before. In fact it has had 9 episodes over 5 million in viewers. When it aired at a different day it only scored under 4 million twice (3.962 and 3.86). And had demos higher in both women and men then what VD has ever reached. But moving to Thursdays at 9pm immediately cost them over a million viewers and 1.5 in the female demos.
Now after 5 seasons I wouldn’t expect SN to do VD numbers (in viewers or demos, well at least female demos), but I do suspect that it would score higher during the 8pm hour (based on the times its reruns ran at 8pm both during the spring season against Idol, and during summer reruns where it out performed Smallville’s average (and this summer any of Smallville’s Summer). But the reverse is also true I think VD would lose considerable steam if airing during the more competitive hour of 9pm (which is more competitive in both female demos and male demos). I think it would of course beat SN viewer total and of course its female demos, but it would be much closer.
my sister hates smallville and thats only because i love it lol. She just started watching Ghost Whisper so its me, my dad, and my mom watching Smallville friday nights and my sister is watching ghost whisper
Part of the problem this season is that Stargate Universe is starting in the same time slot. The fact is SCI FI fans are more rare than your House drama fans. I think for the first month or two people that like Dollhouse are watching it by other means, Hulu etc.. Meanwhile they are trying to see if SGU is a good show or not. I know the jury is still out for me on SGU.The first couple months of this seaon is not a fair representation of whether people like Dollhouse. It really needs a new time slot, or time to get it’s legs. Fox just does not know how to promote good sci fi’s. I have an Idea for a new Fox show. ” Are you smarter than a Fox executive.”.
quoted from Mark
“The only problem is that the CW didn’t have the development slate to cover all its time slots (let alone have backup material). So instead of having a solid Friday lineup, they have half a line up”
I think renewing Everybody Hates Chris and the Game would have been better then repeats of ATNM. Putting a repeat of a show that has no crossover potential with SV definantly doesn’t help SV in the ratings.
If SV lasts one more year the network really needs to find a new show to put after it that can take over the Friday 8PM slot when SV leaves(going over the CW list of potential shows in production, there is one about people(my guess is young “hot” horny people) in outer space that might be a good fit)
One other thing about the Cw, I think they might have been smarter to drop Friday night programming and concentrated on Sunday nights instead
Well if Supernatural returns for a sixth season and right now it could be possible they can put it after Smallville and move something to be after Vampire Diaries
Thanks for the information Fire Dawn and Boris!
“I’m sad that a show as smart as DOLLHOUSE can’t get viewers. And I’m sad that a show devoid of subtext as HOUSE can beat it so handily.”
What exactly about DOLLHOUSE is smart? People keep calling it smart and I have no idea what they’re talking about. The smartest thing about it is that the dialogue is sometimes– *sometimes*– witty. That’s it. There’s nothing intellectual about it. It’s science fiction about brainwashing and it’s plot has more holes than Swiss cheese.
And to call HOUSE devoid of subtext makes me think you’ve never seen an episode. It’s a better show than DOLLHOUSE in every single way– the writing, the acting, everything.
“I don’t believe that airing Dollhouse on another day would have made any difference. If anything in my opinion their ratings would be lower due to more competition. I do think that TSCC was a good lead in for Dollhouse since they both attracted the same type of viewers being SCIFI shows. However, in my opinion Dollhouse had a flawed concept (I don’t see women flocking to see a series where female characters get repeated raped in every episode for money”
Just this, throw in generally uneven writing. I wouldn’t be watching, but for a liking for certain cast members, but quality wise it stinks.
Its ratings fell from the first episode and didn’t stabilise at episode 6 (where Whedon claims he took control and by the way, one of the things that FOX execs forced him to pull back on was the sex, guess they knew something huh).
Feel sorry for the cast though, the creators on the other hand are getting what a pretty disgusting and poorly written show deserve.
“I’m sad that a show as smart as DOLLHOUSE can’t get viewers. And I’m sad that a show devoid of subtext as HOUSE can beat it so handily.”
I wouldn’t call Dollhouse smart in the slightest (not sticking up for House either), but it’s typical for Whedonites to say the only reason you’re not watching our program is because you’re too dumb. They did it with that televisual eyesore Firefly, and once again here.
Let’s look at Dollhouse. They establish that it costs six figures to hire a doll, then have without explanation have a college professor hiring the star active. They establish that Echo and Victor were used in an attempt to snare Sierra, and yet, Season 1’s premiere clearly shows Caroline walking around the DH in her induction tour with Sierra in the background? They establish that Adele is willing to rent her star Active out to be a mommy (and ignores the fact the father’s friends, family, and in-laws might wonder at the baby’s new mom in his life). They establish that an admittedly borderline retarded FBI agent can’t find the Dollhouse yet none of these clients seem to have the slightest problem. BTW, how fast did Echo get that arms dealer to get a ring on her finger? Clearly if you’re that hot you’ll not only marry well, you’ll marry fast.
Anna Nicole Smith, eat your heart out.
Etc, etc. Never mind the disgusting concept, the writing’s got more holes in it than a six week old mouldy Swiss cheese.
But then these sort of plot holes are far from uncommon of a Mutant Enemy production. Really, who are the dumb ones, the ones who ignore or don’t see these errors? Or the ones who don’t watch because the subject matter so disgusts them that having the name ‘Whedon’ attached is no inducement to watching?
@Fire Dawn
I completely agree that the CW should have given up Friday and concentrated on Sunday. I think more people are at home watching TV on Sunday than they are on Fridays. Smallville and Reaper would have made a good Sunday combo.
House is lame and predicable. Dollhouse is okay. Will watch the last episodes of the series though.
The nielsen ratings are so outdated, please stop giving it praise.
Friday would not be a death slot if they put powerhouse shows on it.
Here’s what I think would help FOX be the #1 Network in the spring
Monday
24
Lie to me
Tuesday
AI
Fringe
Wedensday
AI
Glee
Thursday
Bones
Human Target
Friday
HOUSE
Insert New Show (not dollhouse) here
Cody, FOX will already be the #1 network in the spring. It’s #1 in the Fall despite the weak Friday (and no “Idol”). The “House” rerun only got 1.1 on Friday. I’m guessing a “House” repeat gets at least a 2.2 on Monday. I believe people are used to not having much to watch on Friday, just like they got used to having not much on Saturday, so they don’t bother.
“I don’t believe that airing Dollhouse on another day would have made any difference. If anything in my opinion their ratings would be lower due to more competition. I do think that TSCC was a good lead in for Dollhouse since they both attracted the same type of viewers being SCIFI shows. However, in my opinion Dollhouse had a flawed concept (I don’t see women flocking to see a series where female characters get repeated raped in every episode for money). It had other problems also (like Eliza Dushku not being able to carry a show by herself) but its concept was its biggest problem. And for whatever reason, Joss Whedon didn’t retool the series over the summer hiatus to address the main issues.”
Actually airing it on a different day would have made a difference. Not saying it would be a breakout hit, but if TSCC can pull 5 to 6 million on Monday as a lead in to Prison Break, the Dollhouse should have been able to manage that number. The fact was that Friday is horrible for shows that aren’t established. Heck they’re horrible for established series. Okay well TSCC wasn’t exactly established, but it had 5 to 6 million so if the day isn’t the problem, then how come TSCC ended in the low 3 millions when switching to Fridays? The day is just wretched, but what can you do… Your presumed preface of the show being “woman repeatedly raped every episode for money”, is completely offbase. Rape is a strong word, I don’t see the justification there when some may be paying to genuinely feel loved as opposed to rape.
I don’t see any mention of iTunes numbers here… are those numbers not publicly available?
I think Dollhouse airing on another day, numbers would be slightly higher but it will still do horrible. Anyway my guess on the January schedule is this
Monday
8:00 House
9:00 24
Tuesday
8:00 American Idol
9:00 Hell’s Kitchen
Wednesday
8:00 American Idol
9:00 Human Target (January-March)
9:00 Glee (March-May)
Thursday
8:00 Bones
9:00 Fringe
Friday (Jan-March)
8:00 Kitchen Nightmares
9:00 Dollhouse (January 8-22)
9:00 Lie to Me (beginning Jan 29)
Friday (March-May)
8:00 Human Target
9:00 Past Life
Sunday (Jan-March)
7:00 Til Death
7:30 Til Death
8:00 The Simpsons
8:30 The Cleveland Show
9:00 Family Guy
9:30 American Dad
Sunday (March-May)
7:00 Til Death
7:30 American Dad
8:00 The Simpsons
8:30 Sons of Tucson
9:00 Family Guy
9:30 The Cleveland Show
My guess is a new Hell’s Kitchen season will air post American Idol Tuesdays through the season. House/24 and Bones/Fringe will remain on Mondays and Thursdays from January-May. Wednesdays will have Human Target airing post Idol, however when Glee premieres Target will likely move to fridays for its remaining episodes along with Past Life (which I bet will premiere fridays. Before Past Life and Human Target air in April my guess is the remaining Lie to Me should air alongside a new Kitchen Nightmares season for fridays. Sundays from 7-8 will have double Til Death along with the current 8-10 lineup but March will likely see Sons of Tucson airing at 8:30 moving The Cleveland Show to 9:30 and American Dad to 7:30.
This is my best guess for the schedule until FOX officially announces it.
Dan, they are NOT going to move American Dad to 7:30. Outside of reruns, that absolutely will not happen. I’m pretty sure HK will premiere late (late March or April, and run through June).
Robert – I think thats likely to happen (only temporarily) FOX did announce it in last year’s press release, and they would only move American Dad to 7:30 to give the 8:30 slot to new comedy Sons of Tucson which has 13 episodes. I doubt FOX would premiere Sons at 7:30 and risk the show failing. American Dad already has a renewal so FOX can afford to move it to make room for new series. Of course come next season Dad will likely move back to its current slot of 9:30 (or switch with Cleveland and air at 8:30. As for Hell’s Kitchen it is possible that FOX decides to air Past Life or Lie to Me post Idol Jan-March and then premiere Hell’s Kitchen then around late March or early April) Lie to Me would be my best guess, if FOX would want to help it out again. Past Life has been cut to 7 episodes, which isnt good so FOX could opt to air the series fridays instead of post Idol
Dan, again, I don’t see FOX airing NEW episodes of American Dad at 7:30. Though Sunday is the most convenient place for FOX to air 30 minute episodes, Sons of Tucson doesn’t exactly fit the animation domination theme.
As for Past Life, you are talking some very NUTTY scenarios. Past Life is irrelevant at this point. Why would you draw any conclusion other than FOX has given up on the show? ZERO chance of airing in a post Idol slot.
FOX announced its midseason around this week last year so hopefully we will hear an announcement soon.
Ah, you put more faith in what’s been posted for months than I do:
http://www.fox.com/programming/fox10.php
but indeed, the mid-season announcements should begin rolling out soon.
Robert – I know it doesnt fit the theme but FOX has aired non animated series in the 8:30/9:30 sunday slot in the past (Unhitched, The Winner, Free Ride). What I’m saying is that FOX may want Sons of Tucson to succeed so giving the series the slot between The Simpsons and Family Guy could happen. FOX is airing a new American Dad 7:30 next week so its not impossible.
As for my thoughts on Past Life, FOX could go with the original plan and air the show post Idol beginning in January, its just a series order being cut doesnt always seem like a good sign. FOX may also be hesitant to launch two new series post Idol.
I could be completely wrong about all of this but the only way we’ll know about FOX’s plans is when they announce it.
Robert – Yeah Ive seen that schedule, but while FOX’s current midseason schedule is tentative, Fridays will be different, I think this years actual midseason schedule could be the closest to FOX’s planned. Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays look to be the same as planned. Sundays could look like that beginning in March. I am very anxious about their sched though.
Indeed, there is a new American Dad at 7:30pm next week, but I didn’t read much into that since next week is wacky due to the Seth & Alex special with New Family Guy eps at 8pm and 9pm around the special.
Clearly FOX’s original thinking is to air SoT on Sundays and short of some variation of “it’s dead” (Fridays, Sundays at 7p, etc) I’m not sure where else they could put it unless there are several unknown 90 minute episodes of Idol coming.
Medium fans will be glad to hear that the show’s very cool Halloween-themed episode ticked up in the demo in the final ratings to a 1.9, easily beating 2nd-place Dateline (which slid to a 1.6). Details here (thanks to “Travis Yanin“)!
Well, I guess that answers my question…
Sylocat, it’s a rare day (AKA never) when iTunes numbers for TV Show videos are published. That’s because they are almost always relatively tiny (though if you add all episodes of ALL shows up, it’s probably not tiny, on a per episode, per show basis, it is).
MOVE “UGLY BETTY” TO WEDNESDAYS AT 8PM!
Robert – Thats true the Seth Macfarlane entire special night is Sunday. It seems since FOX is using Idol to boost Human Target and Glee, they wo nt have room to boost Sons of Tucson, which would be the most likely 30 minute series to be put in the slot. Thats the only reason why they are giving Sons the 8:30 sunday slot and piutting an established series American Dad as a lead in. Since the entire friday lineup is going to change, Brothers is finishing December 27, Dollhouse is finishing January 22 and Til Death is being burned off 7:00 and 7:30 sundays. This may be the first fall season ever that FOX has not “cancelled” a series without airing all episodes.