Sure, Stargate Universe only dropped 2 percent from the previous week, but that won’t stop the haters from hating early, and often!
Friday cable finals via Travis Yanan:
Bulls vs Celtics (8:02pm, 151 minutes)
- 1.541 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49
Mavericks vs Lakers (10:33pm, 158 minutes)
- 2.132 million viewers
- 1.5/3 HH
- 1.0/4 A18-49
College Football (7:58pm, 209 minutes)
- 2.538 million viewers
- 1.7/3 HH
- 0.7/3 A18-49
Stargate Universe
- 1.974 million viewers
- 1.3/2 HH
- 0.8/2 A18-49
Sanctuary
- 1.606 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.5/2 A18-49
Crash (10pm, 58 minutes)
- 0.157 million viewers
- 0.1/0 HH
- 0.1/0 A18-49
Monk
- 4.687 million viewers
- 2.9/5 HH
- 1.0/3 A18-49
White Collar
- 5.075 million viewers
- 3.1/6 HH
- 1.2/4 A18-49
I got the third closest score in the White Collar contest. So close!! If those other people aren’t from America or cheated then I win, ohh I hope so…
Robert! SGA Vultures!? You’re terrible. LOL
Yay for White Collar. The second ep kept the light fun touch of the first ep and we got to see the actress from MiddleMan.
Great ratings for White Collar, can see this moving to 9pm when Psych returns in January.
Crash on Starz get very low ratings, I bet they are hoping Spartacus takes off.
I really want SGU to get better. It’s kinda boring and I don’t see much chemistry between the characters.
I keep missing White Collar, when is it on USA.
Duh, on Fridays!
I’ll have to check the time. Is it repeated during the week?
a few times. I think it’s on tonight after WWE RAW. You can see USA’s schedule at usanetwork.com
LOL, SGA vultures, lol. It’s going to take a lot more of a drop off to even get them into the air. SGU is still doing very well. Sanctuary is pulling in around what SGA was doing for their final season. Maybe they should of had SGA lead into SGU. That would of likely been a huge success. SG-1/SGA/BSG anyone?
How low does a series need to get to scratch? Those Crash ratings are horrible?
Hey, do any of the TVBTN PTB know how many households Starz is in? Is it even close to SHO?
Starz and Showtime are in roughly the same number of households.
wow…crash is doing awful. That’s just unbelievable, i don’t care how many homes it’s in. A 0.1? That’s a joke!
Also I kind of figured SyFy’s friday shows were doing better…didn’t SGU beat Dollhouse at first? Now it’s tying with it. Sanctuary is doing pretty poorly, but cable nets do have really low standards.
SGU has dropped %18 in total viewers since its’ 3rd episode high. But SGA dropped more after its’ premier. And SGA ran 5 seasons.
So OK, not great but OK.
why on Earth don’t they move SGU to a weeknight? non Friday?
CRASH’s ratings is the lowest I’ve ever seen since I started monitoring US TV ratings
SGU is still holding onto the demo, and that is what counts, correct? Not that they are probably happy that it has lost audience, because that can start to affect the demo, and it is probably rather odd that it didn’t.
If the SG creators have killed the “golden goose” for themselves, MGM,and Syfy, they only have themselves to blame. It was probably a tactical error to not let SGA finish. At the time they said they were pulling the show, not because it was doing bad, but that wanted to take it out while it was still doing well. They planned to make SGA straight-to-dvd eps, but so far that hasn’t happened, and the scuttlebutt is that some of the actors have said they won’t do any further work on it, since they didn’t like the way the show was handled in its demise. This was long before one of the creators basically dissed all of the previous cast members by saying that doing SGU allowed them to get the “caliber” of actor like Robert Carlyle. The creators/studio heads thought that they would put out dvds and make some dough, and have the third series fall into place as the heir apparent of the franchise, but it hasn’t turned out that way-at least so far.
I believe that Syfy will give it a second season, but if it doesn’t establish itself by then, I doubt very seriously that it will follow in the footsteps of the previous SG series in terms of longevity.
Crash’s numbers are low, but I’ve seen lower: in the summer of 2007, Showtime aired a show called Meadowlands, which reached all of 100,000 viewers and earned a 0.0 in adults 18-49 every time I looked at its ratings. I mostly remember the ratings for it because at the same time, critics were starting to write lots of “Showtime’s got all the buzz that HBO used to have” articles.
Starz ratings don’t usually get reported, do they? I don’t remember ever reading any numbers for Crash season 1, or Party Down, or any of their shows.
I’m interested in the renewal chances of Sanctuary. The show isn’t that cheap for a cable show, costing 1.6mil per ep (season 1 figures.) On the other hand, the show is successful in both the UK and Canada, and since the Canadian channel is a production partner with the show it has an incentive to keep it going.
I was expecting a bump up for sgu since they don’t have Dollhouse to compete with it on Fridays.
Wasn’t Sanctuary’s big selling points that it was an expanded web show with a small budget? I’m surprised it costs that much to make.
As for White Collar, I’m disappointed that Marsha Thompson-Nessa from Las Vegas, didn’t make it past the pilot. I liked her alot, but I guess you can’t have your male lead smitten with an ambiguously lesbian FBI(?) operative.
Regarding SGU, is still a work in progress. It feels like they’re trying to hard to emulate Galactica, and I really don’t want to think about a now old show while watching a new one. It’s really an odd fusion of Lost, BSG and Star Trek Voyager, with dark lighting, shaky cams, and conflicts that are forced-hard, rather than growing organically from the story.
I don’t hate it, but I haven’t fallen in love with it either.
@AniMatsuri
“I was expecting a bump up for sgu since they don’t have Dollhouse to compete with it on Fridays.”
Yet, a House rerun does over 60% better in that Dollhouse timeslot. It is hard to compete with competition like House.
And as we can see…SGU held it’s main demo’s. I think it did quite well…and it sure is not doing SGA numbers.
The show is rocky as the premise is different for most SG watchers, but for those of us patient enough to see where it goes, we will be rewarded.
@ lainey says: Quote “If the SG creators have killed the “golden goose” for themselves, MGM,and Syfy, they only have themselves to blame.”
I agree with you 100% but they will say its all the fans fault for not watching LOL.
Quote “It was probably a tactical error to not let SGA finish. At the time they said they were pulling the show, not because it was doing bad, but that wanted to take it out while it was still doing well. They planned to make SGA straight-to-dvd eps, but so far that hasn’t happened, and the scuttlebutt is that some of the actors have said they won’t do any further work on it, since they didn’t like the way the show was handled in its demise.”
And I can’t say I blame the actors one bit for the way they where treated and then to completly ignore them after the show was done was an even bigger slap in the face. As for taking it out while it was doing great and do DVDs that was a lie they knew they where not going to do dvds they just wanted to string along the fans.
also there are some fans who only have broadcast and can only watch SGU online. Me
“The show is rocky as the premise is different for most SG watchers, but for those of us patient enough to see where it goes, we will be rewarded.”
You’ve seen the future? Great! Can you tell me when SGU starts to be rewarding? I might start watching then.
“Sparkle says:
I really want SGU to get better. It’s kinda boring and I don’t see much chemistry between the characters.”
The two that do seem to be Eli/Chloe, probably because of the friendship between the two actors. The rest just seem to float around to just instill drama for 40 odd minutes while the plot compromises of about 3 minutes.
I’m not sure what to think here. But it’s not like my schedule is jammed anyway with Fringe and Glee (yeah Glee, really).
SGA wasn’t going anywhere in season 5, and sometimes shows have to just be cut before they embarrass themselves. Their finale, “Enemy at the Gate” anyone?
Coming from someone who loves Psych and Burn Notice and is okay with Monk, I really can’t understand why people think White Collar is so great. Sure, it has Bryce Larkin, but the show can’t compare to other USA Network shows IMO. Oh well, as long as the channel does well, I’m happy.
=Tempest of News says:
The show is rocky as the premise is different for most SG watchers, but for those of us patient enough to see where it goes, we will be rewarded.=
I don’t mind different. Using Doctor Who and Torchwood as an example, I didn’t think TW’s season 1 was bad because it was more adult than family friendly, Who, I thought it was rocky because they were forcing characters to do shocking things in the name of being an ‘adult’ show. Season 2 was a vast improve, and I became just as devoted to it as I was to DW. Universe was in development for over a year before being picked up. With the mistakes of the past shows fresh in their minds, SGU should’ve been a better product right out of the…gate.
Am I reading the Sanctuary numbers correctly?
Didn’t it open its season with:
- 2.4 million total viewers
- 1.8 HH rating
and this week:
- 1.606 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
Why the huge drop?
@Kyle B
“With the mistakes of the past shows fresh in their minds, SGU should’ve been a better product right out of the…gate.”
Yet, I have a full household who love it. So, I think those who feel the need for the “explosions” and “alien of the week” adventures are the ones disappointed.
We think it IS a quality product.
We also have a house of Carlyle fans (even my son…who is 11), and he enjoys the ability of the show to captivate without the need to cause us vertigo from flashing lights and big talk about science…
We are thoroughly enjoying Greer and Young as their characters grow as well.
Don’t get me wrong. We have issues with several characters (Chloe and Scott come to mind who just annoy us…)…but, then SGA had Weir and Teyla who I felt over acted and annoyed.
So, I think it boils down to differences of opinion. I have been on the Stargate bandwagon since day 1 (movies, SG:1), and I feel this is a good direction for the SG mythos.
@TempestOfNews
“…but, then SGA had Weir and Teyla who I felt over acted and annoyed.”
Wow! You are the first person I have ever heard say that. Wow, wow, wow. Teyla and Weir were GREAT!
Good luck with SGU. But Atlantis had a GREAT ensemble cast. I’m not trying to be a vulture here, just sayin’ LOL.
“So, I think those who feel the need for the “explosions” and “alien of the week” adventures are the ones disappointed.”
You would be wrong. Out of the numerous posts I’ve seen lamenting how boring Universe is, not one expressed a desire for explosions or aliens. You fell for a red herring intentionally perpetuated by Mallozzi et al. to make detractors look immature and simplistic.
The huge drop in numbers for Sanctuary could be related to the fact that they have added the most annoying character that I’ve seen in a long time and also killed off one of the three original stars. But I’m just guessing of course.
Look when you have numbers for Sanctuary that are getting close to the numbers for Stargate Universe, that means you need some fixing to do. With the backing of the stargate franchise for Universe, the numbers should be higher, but they are not. Reason the show is not that good. So far the last 7 episodes have been boring as hell. I will keep watching to see if it gos anywhere, but so its been really bad so far.
Is SYFY every going to improve SGU? It’s a horrible show, bad writing, bad acting, no chemistry with unnecessary sex. scenes. It close to a 42-minute weekly flop in the Stargate franchise. Since feedback is never responded to, can SYFY at least post something to tell the public this show will improve. Viewers are being lost weekly. Resurrect SGA or SG1 but don’t continue to waste the public on SGU. I wouldn’t spend one-dime to purchase the DVD’s from this show, while I own all of SG1, SGA and associated movies. Why does MGM and the commerical owners back such a catastrophe? Last night when Earth was showing, I got so bored and frustrated I change to Criminal Minds where the principal actors at least blend. Who are the writers? Who choose the actors? They need another job not the one that put this show (used loosely) together,
I’ve been watching tv long enough that I actually remember seeing the JACKIE GLEASON show — the original, on the Dumont Network. I have, literally, never had a show regularly put me to sleep before, but I have been unable to stay awake during UNIVERSE.
The idea was a risky one, but potentially a brilliant one. You lose suspense totally — if every episode is ’survive or die’ and you know the show is on next week… — but if you have a great cast, a visually appealing show, and a MacGyverish ‘thinking outside the box’ that gives the viewer a chance to ‘play along’ it can work.
Strike one: the solutions are plodding and uninteresting, not clever — and frequently absurd (This water is highly contaminated, but if we look around, we’ll find fresh water?????? — and don’t they already have a water purifying system, so what does it matter if it is contaminated);
Strike two: the show is as ugly visually as any show on the air;
Strike three: characters not just cardboard but such flimsy cardboard that most package delivery companies would reject them.
Three strikes and I’m out … cold. But I did happen to catch the idea of the ‘group of seventeen survivors’ chosen when the ship seemed doomed. The group of survivors that is meant to keep humanity alive in that part of the galaxy until they could be resuced, maybe centuries hence. And not one hint that you start with considerations of fertility and diversity of gene pool — can’t have one man and 16 women, nor can you pick the ‘official lesbian’ (I’m bi, and would celebrate her inclusion if she had any more depth that the rest of the cut-outs).
(If you are wondering, I considered SG-1 on a level with TNG and BABYLON-5, but thought ATLANTIS began with the absurdity of the first two seasons of VOYAGER — and went downhill from there.)
sorry HTML mess-up. The close belongs after ‘gene pool’
Heather asked “Who are the writers?”
This may come as a shock to you all but Brad Wright and Robert C Cooper wrote all the episodes with help on only 5 all together, being the later ones in season one!
They have no one to point fingers at to say the writing just wasn’t what they expected, they did it themselves! People saying that the writers need to be given a chance to get things moving is ridiculous. These guys have had 15 years of experience with this genre, and this is the best they can do on their own??? Why write the episodes by themselves, instead of having more creative ideas help out??? Maybe it was the $80,000 plus, per episode that is paid to the writer that had something to do with only they being the writers, Who knows?
Just to be clear, I’m not an SGU hater, and want SGA back, it will never happen. I was hoping for more from this show, but I am greatly disappointed at what SGU has turned out to be. Yes it may take a little intelligence in a viewer to recognize the terrible holes in the storyline, but that should be in the realm of the majority of most Sci-Fi fans.
Those that can’t see the holes are simply not true Sci-Fi fans and only watch for the titillation factor. Good Science Fiction has never been about sex scenes and melodrama, there are plenty of meaningless relationship shows on TV to offer that kind of crap if one wants to watch. Good Science Fiction has been about stimulating the imagination to wonder whats out there, and what would it be like to be there, in a far off galaxy in the future. If we want this kind of soap opera tripe, we just have to look at every day life around us, the news and so called reality shows.
For those who would criticize the Nerds who watch Sci-fi, lets be clear. It is the Nerds who have created the inventions you enjoy each day including the keyboard you use to spout your opinion on. The nerds are the ones who spend their life thinking about making things better for humanity. The jocks who spend their life looking through the bottom of a beer bottle and wondering where the next wet tee shirt contest is, don’t contribute a whole lot, but they probably like this show, it is simple enough for them to understand. Oh and before you think I am young nerd living at home, I should say I am in my 50’s, have three children and three grand children, and only in the last few years have started using a lap top computer.
So what holes are we talking about? There are so many but I’ll just mention a couple.
How about no explanation how Stargate command was able to out think the ancients and build a tiny box with a light in it to function as well as the large device they found the stones in, in SG1.
How about that they complain that only two of the Ancients space suits were operable because…. well they degraded over the hundreds of thousands of years. Right? A space suit built by the ancients with material capable of withstanding the harshest atmospheres possible were degraded while in storage and not being used, and yet the beautiful bed coverings and pillows that were exposed to the atmosphere of the ship for hundreds of thousands of years are not degraded and in pristine condition??? Of course if they weren’t, how would we justify the sex scenes amongst a pile of scraps and dust.
How come in the future, Atlantis in the Pegasus Galaxy which was hundreds of thousands of years younger than when this ship was supposedly launched, had to use DHD’s powered by crystals to operate the Stargate and in the past, they needed no exterior power or dialing device, just a remote. Seems Atlantians got dumber before they ascended!
This show expects the audience to just be dumb, shut up and watch and bring in money for the producer and the network.
Well obviously they have attracted some who fit the requirement, as they think this is great Sci-fi. They are wrong, it isn’t a matter of opinion it is a matter of fact. Intelligent viewers will pick out the plot holes in any genre that doesn’t make sense with the story line, be it a crime drama, medical drama or Sci-Fi. Plot holes are the result of lazy writing and a view of the intelligence of the fans that isn’t very flattering to say the least.
I suppose their view is justified for some of the viewers but it is refreshing to here from others who still have a brain and can see this isn’t a good show of any kind, let alone Science Fiction.
If this was in the movie theaters it wouldn’t have lasted past the first weekend, and would been sent to DVD as a financial loss.
Shame on MGM the SyFy channel and the Stargate Franchise for thinking this was all their fans deserved!
One last thing, don’t blame the actors all that much, remember it is the directors who tell them when the scene is as good as they want it to be, the actors just do what they are told. The directors can only do what the writers have given them to emulate. The writers in this case are the show creators and producers, so you know where the blame lies.
You can’t make a beautiful purse out of a pigs ear!
I have been trying to watch SGU, hoping if it does well they might bring back SGA just to finish the story. I feel cheated and betrayed by SyFy/SciFi, whatever they call themselves now. They could have had a great story line with having the whole Stargate Program finally exposed to the world, but noooo…. just drop the whole thing, screw the fans.
But, OMG, SGU is such a bore. I have to fight to stay awake. Thanks to M,Brian for pointing out some holes I hadn’t even thought of yet. My observations: I thought they had said the ship was unmanned, so why are there beds and showers etc in the first place? Again, good point on why they are in such good shape after a million years! Where is the food coming from?(I admit, I might have dozed off when that was explained.) Of course, why are the men not in full beards and women showing, shall we say, peach fuzz? did they escape with full toiletry bags? Hair isn’t growing, make-up still fine. Sheesh. How can people start watching this show after missing the premiere if you don’t find a way to explain some of this stuff again. And that crap with the stones? What a cheezy way to expand beyond the dark, dreary confines of the Destiny. I have been reading and watching Science Fiction for more than 40 years and this is a sad decline of a fine, fun franchise. Methinks the writers got more than a tad pretentious and sloppy. Thank heavens there is still the USA Network.
Actually in one way it’s doing better than SGU, because Sanctuary has gone down 5.something% in total viewers, while SGU has gone down 18%.
Also a lot more people are basing or semi-bashing SGU than Sanctuary or any other show listed. I don’t care about SGU, if losing viewers means good news for Sanctuary than so be it.
How would SGU losing viewers be good for Sanctuary, since Jerks on A Ship leads into Sanctuary?