Due to the nature of live sports programming the ratings for CBS (NFL overrun), ABC (NASCAR) and NBC (Sunday Night Football) are approximate and subject to significant revisions in the final numbers. See below for more information on these Fast Affiliate Ratings.
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| Adults 18-49: Rating/Share | 6.2/16 | 3.1/8 | 3.1/8 | 3.0/8 | 0.9/2 |
| Adults 18-34: Rating/Share | 5.5/15 | 3.6/10 | 2.0/6 | 2.3/6 | 0.9/2 |
| Total Viewers (million) | 16.541 | 6.379 | 12.227 | 9.833 | 2.264 |
On a Sunday when second place was a horserace, first place was not, as the Dallas Cowboys lifted NBC and Sunday Night Football to an easy win with an average 6.2 rating for adults 18-49 in primetime. The Cowboys vs. Eagles delivered a 7.6 adults 18-49 rating from 830-11p, up from the 5.2 rating for the Cardinals vs. Giants on Sunday 10/25/09 in the Fast Nationals before rising to a 5.9/15 from 8:31-11:42p in the Finals.
Perhaps the ladies like watching Tony Romo, because against the Cowboys/Eagles Sunday Night Football game ABC’s women focused line up took a dive. Extreme Makeover: Home Edition was down 9% to a 3.0 adults 18-49 rating. Desperate Housewives hit a season low 4.3 rating, down 14% from last week. Brothers & Sisters tumbled 12% to a 2.9 rating, also a season low.
Fox’s special Seth MacFarlane night did about as well overall as its last Sunday night without sports (3.1 average ratings vs. a 3.2 on 10/18). However, the 9pm Family Guy’s 4.0 adults 18-49 rating was down sharply from its season average 4.8 rating.
Because of an NFL overrun last night, CBS’ timeslots and numbers are a mess. Although it seems clear that both Three Rivers and Cold Case did dreadfully, only this afternoon’s final numbers will indicate exactly how dreadfully. I think you can check off “It was the football overrun” on your fan excuse bingo cards.
| Time | Net | Show | 18-49 Rating | 18-49 Share | Viewers Live+SD (million) |
| 7:00 | CBS | NFL Overrun/60 Minutes | 6.0 | 17 | 20.967 |
| NBC | Football Night In America | 2.6 | 7 | 7.613 | |
| FOX | Brothers | 2.3 | 6 | 5.718 | |
| ABC | NASCAR: Dickies 500 | 1.8 | 5 | 6.238 | |
| 7:30 | NBC | Football Night In America | 4.1 | 11 | 10.466 |
| CBS | 60 Minutes | 3.9 | 10 | 17.264 | |
| FOX | American Dad | 2.1 | 6 | 4.532 | |
| ABC | America’s Funniest Home Videos | 1.9 | 5 | 6.784 | |
| 8:00 | NBC | Football Night In America | 5.6 | 14 | 15.091 |
| FOX | Family Guy | 3.7 | 9 | 7.382 | |
| CBS | 60 Minutes/Amazing Race | 3.6 | 9 | 14.658 | |
| ABC | Extreme Makeover: Home Edition | 2.7 | 7 | 9.569 | |
| 8:30 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Dallas v. Philadelphia | 7.9 | 19 | 21.560 |
| ABC | Extreme Makeover: Home Edition | 3.3 | 8 | 11.317 | |
| CBS | Amazing Race | 3.3 | 8 | 11.230 | |
| FOX | Family Guy Presents: Seth & Alex’s Almost Live Comedy Show | 3.4 | 8 | 6.634 | |
| 9:00 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Dallas v. Philadelphia | 7.3 | 17 | 20.167 |
| ABC | Desperate Housewives | 4.3 | 10 | 13.454 | |
| FOX | Family Guy | 4.0 | 9 | 7.727 | |
| CBS | Amazing Race/Three Rivers | 2.8 | 7 | 9.922 | |
| 9:30 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Dallas v. Philadelphia | 7.8 | 18 | 20.582 |
| ABC | Desperate Housewives | 4.2 | 10 | 13.198 | |
| FOX | Cleveland Show | 3.2 | 7 | 6.283 | |
| CBS | Three Rivers | 1.7 | 4 | 7.284 | |
| 10:00 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Dallas v. Philadelphia | 7.3 | 19 | 18.316 |
| ABC | Brothers & Sisters | 3.1 | 8 | 9.668 | |
| CBS | Three Rivers/Cold Case | 1.8 | 5 | 8.650 | |
| 10:30 | NBC | Sunday Night Football: Dallas v. Philadelphia | 7.5 | 21 | 18.535 |
| ABC | Brothers & Sisters | 2.7 | 7 | 8.434 | |
| CBS | Cold Case | 1.6 | 4 | 7.839 |
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Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.
Share (of Audience): The percent of households (or persons) using television who are tuned to a specific program, station or network in a specific area at a specific time. (See also, Rating, which represents tuning or viewing as a percent of the entire population being measured.)
Time Shifted Viewing – Program ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.
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Wow, I expected much more from Fox’s special Seth night. Glad to see that guy fail for once, though.
Yes! Fox is down because simpsons was not on last night.
Not bad for NBC
As this shows, perhaps a better timeslot can improve ratings in Fox’s case (Brothers–2.3 in the demo, 5.7 million!)
Something’s was wrong with FOX’s Sch.
Big hits for 8pm
Seth night was awesome no matter how bad the ratings were … we need 2 seth nights a week fox.
Not bad for Brothers — considering the show seemed dead already. It’s now Fox’s #1 scripted comedy… which isn’t saying much. I think Seth and Alex was incredibly entertaining. Give them an hour on Friday or Saturday night with some sketches and Family Guy bumbers and I bet it’d be a hit.
series low for Housewives, B&S and Cold Case.
Is this Sch. Correct for FOX?
It’s now Fox’s #1 scripted comedy… which isn’t saying much.
Yeah, I doubt they’re throwing a party over beating Til Death’s ratings.
Jeff, Fox was down because there was no baseball. If you look at the two weeks prior to baseball, 3.1 average for the night is right on par:
Oct. 18
Oct. 11
How is Seth a loser? Those seem like good numbers to me — it came in second in the time slot and retained more of it’s lead in from Family Guy than Cleveland did. Not bad, considering it was live action following animation and a totally different kind of show. I’m sure NBC would kill for a 3.4 for any of it’s comedies, besides the Office and likewise for ABC – Cougar Town isn’t even getting those numbers any more.
Good night for NBC, bad night for ABC.
Desperate Housewives is losing its supremacy at an alarming rate this season, though it still rules the scripted category on 18-49 ratings.
The real problem for ABC is the declining Brothers & Sisters. These numbers are way down from last season, and even from last week. Not even 9 million viewers? Less that 3.0 in the young demos? All the changes at the top are definitely hurting the show. As is the stupid decision to take the spotlight away from the Walkers and toward secondary and marginal characters like Robert, Holly, Ryan, David, the surrogate chick, Scotty, etc. Drastic measures must be taken to save this sinking ship.
What happened to The Simpsons?
Brothers better than american dad is very impressive.
except from tree rivers and cold case ratings, all other shows done weel last night.
Is that a series high for Brothers ?
love B&S…. hope they won’t cancel this show cause of the ratings… I still think the ratings are great for these sunday night show!!!
BTW, here in Brazil there’s a lot of B&S fans……
Julia, Thank you for clarifying that there was no baseball last night. Besides that Family Guy usually gets around 9 million with a 4.2 18-49, Fox’s wanted to put all Seth so they would think it would gain all 9 on the charts but it failed to do that.
Jeff, you said that Fox was down last night due to no Simpsons. They were not. They were right on par of where they usually are with The Simpsons.
On the whole, it was an average Sunday night for Fox, but Family Guy’s 9pm ratings were down quite a bit from its season average.
5506, The Simpsons returns next week. Last night was an all-Seth MacFarlane night.
ABC needs to have something else follow DH next season. I’m not saying they should cancell B and S yet though. As much as DH is down it is a strong producer. ABC should use one of their new shows to feed off of it rathter than B and S which probably stayed around a lot longer than it should have because of the pairing. My guess is we would not be talking about the cancellation of Eastwick if it would have been placed behind a very similar toned show like DH. Who knows? A strong new show with a lot of mojo behind it could even boost back up DH? It’s worth a show next year right?
In half-hour spurts, it’s easier to ignore Family Guy’s faults. But it does not play well in big blocks (that includes Cleveland). At about the 45-minute mark, it’s hard to get around the fact that this stuff just isn’t all that funny.
I think the higher numbers for the 7:00 hour helped offset the lower numbers for Family Guy
It’s not his series low of b&s because the episode 4×03 obtains 8.89 and 2.9/7. Damn football!
I’d have your Tony Romo link point to your previous post that estimated that Cowboys games have the highest average ratings of all NFL teams, personally.
ABC could well be down a couple points because it is a Cowboys game, to be honest. Although I will reiterate that B&S needs a weekday slot next year, to grow the DH successor after DH, for however many years DH has left.
I don’t know what CBS is thinking. Perhaps they simply aren’t used to failure anymore, but they are dragging the full year of CC down by propping up the half year (or less) of TR that airs. Unless MT is getting Sunday 9pm, the shows should have been swapped around weeks ago.
All the people here lamenting DH. It had a 5.0 last week. The fact that thye have a 4.3 this week saya more about Neilsen thna the show. B&S has had a 3.3 consistently the last 3-4 weeks. What show drops .7 in a week, when their bigget competition, is Football – completely different audiences. CBS shows never drop .7. There is a crazy flaw in Nielsen and it’a bout time they get challenged.
Tom, that link had two objectives, (1) ABC’s line up got crunched, maybe women do like Romo better, (2) I love that ad!
fg was down about 1.3 million viewers from simpsons… not sure about demo. i’ve loved fg for 10 years before most of you guys even knew about it… but last night was a bit too much seth… especially cleveland. it’s nice to have different styles of humor… that’s why simps and fg work so well as anchors.
when i saw fg was down 1.3 mill… it’s compared to the last simps
So Ted, when the ratings are not to your liking – suddenly Nielsen has a “problem”?
(because I don’t recall you complaining when DH hit a 5)
Ok, I was just looking at the averages. Holly’s right. Though the numbers for Brothers was adjusted way down in the finals last time it aired on Sunday (1.7 down to 0.8) so it may only be an illusion of being steady. Though I’m still unsure what that has to do with The Simpsons, since they were at 3.6 (3.7 in the finals) on Oct. 11th.
Probably Tom also knew fg is nothing but a pale simpsons clone before the rest of us did.
Or maybe the Cowboys are just that big of a draw. Seems like the Cowboys are the football equivalent of the Yankees: everybody watches when they’re on.
Which I think sucks, because I hate the Cowboys.
I’m not surprised about housewives.. that was the most boring episode of the season. Total filler, they need to step it up. Total snoozefest.
no, not when it’s not to my liking – when it makes no sense. people wathing DH don;t suddenly wathc football because of the cowboys. shows don’t explicably drop .7 – like I said find me the last time that happened with CBS. NCIS had it’s biggest competition with V last week and dropped .4 from it’s regular avg and you could see how those audience overlap. DH has been closer to a 5.0 all season. To drop this much when there is a big Football game – again completely different audiences – makes no sense. There are many bloggers that think Nielsen make s no sense – read THE WRAP for example.
Wow FOX’s Seth Macfarlane line up did less then I expected but Brothers actually got a series high. Too bad its dead after next month. Three Rivers should be axed any time now. And Cold Case is done by May. DH and B&S were down but both are still doing moderately well.
Still think Microsoft was foolish to pull out of the McFarlane special?
Ted, 60 Minutes (final) ratings this season:
3.2
2.2
3.5
3.2
2.1
2.2
Does that answer your question?
ted, I was unaware that The Wrap were Nielsen conspiracy theorists, I might have to read them for laughs if that’s the case.
I can tell right now you’ll be a reliable bingo square, though.
Copasetic, the quality of FG varies greatly from show to show. Probably it is primarily staff-written, but I notice one writer is usu. given credit for an individual script, for my taste there’s a consistency attached to those names, good or bad. All successful adult cartoons suffer from this. The ostensible freedom which enables you to turn Barbara Streisand into a giant monster or have a transformer made of guys in wheelchairs, the giddy effects possible, can become a curse if abused too much. But I also feel psychologically cartoon viewing entails less emotional investment than watching live performers, less empathy or whatever, so I watch them casually and have sort of low expectations already. Taken altogether in a long ten year run where ideas are bound to get stale, I think FG one of the top two or three adult cartoon TV series in the past fifty years.
For all the grief and deservedly so, that NBC gets for their lackuster weeknight primetime TV scripted series, or otherwise, their NBC Sunday Night Football seems to have payed off? Anyone have any idea how NBC’s Sunday night ratings compare to seasons before Football?
Jay,
I appreciate the thoughtfulness of what you’re saying, but I disagree that there is less emotional investment in watching animation. It’s all about the writing. The Simpsons in its heyday (the first ten years or so) had more heart than pretty much anything else on. Family Guy has never reached that height.
I’m a Moonlight fan and I’ve only been watching Three Rivers just to show support for Alex O’Loughlin. So what I am about to say will most likely get me in trouble with the Alex Fans and some of the Three Rivers and Moonlight Fans but I want to be honest about how I feel about Three Rivers I’ll be the first to admit that medical dramas are not my cup of tea. ER on NBC was actually watchable back in the day when it first aired but Three Rivers just doesn’t seem to do anything for me at all. The writing is bad, Alex just doesn’t seem comfortable in the role. There is no chemistry between the cast. So the continued poor ratings for Three Rivers doesn’t shock me anymore. I still can’t believe that CBS is leaving this on the air. They’ve meaning CBS have canceled other shows quicker with these kind of ratings.
copasetic… big shot… just because i liked fg doesn’t mean i don’t love simps… it’s possible to enjoy 2 shows at the same time even tho so many like to have a battle of one or the other. the humor and style is very different. but simps are my fave.
well lisa so what is your thinking?that if Three Rivers is canceled or if it had been canceled sooner then your Moonlight Movie idea may have more of chance?HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!Not gonna happen in this life time anyway.
I guess in Three Rivers case, CBS could air out all episodes or atleast 8 through November 22. Thats the longest CBS has gone without axing a fall series since fall 2005.
Any chance the (awesome) season finale of Mad Men played a role in B&S’s demise at 10? Does anybody know how well it did?
Oh man – you got my hopes up on the comment “Desperate Housewives hit lows”…DH is still up there !? –
Here’s hoping to the death of the show DH – can’t wait for that crap to leave the air-waves…along with Brothers and Sisters and Grey’s Anatomy…
You guys it’s evident that the reason why this week’s DH was low was because of the competition. It should go back to normal numbers. Despite this weeks episode, it’s actually been inching up in numbers since it’s season premiere. With some of the stunts they’ve got coming up like the plane crash and the 25 year flash forward stand alone episode, i see no problem for them to stay in the 5.0 neighborhood.
DH was great last night, f-ing football had to ruin that.
Always nice to comment on a site and be insulted. Thanks Bill Gorman.
Also, I believe all the major nets all planning a ratings service of their own, so I believe the people that really matter have a problem with Nielsen. But thanks again.
ted, you’re very confused and seem determined to remain so, and I learned some time ago to not attempt to change that situation.
i got it – you’re quite smart oh and witty too.
Hey Bill,
I think this might be a typo: “The Cowboys vs Eagles delivered a 7.6 adults 18-49 rating…”
Grace W., it seems right to me. Remember the games ratings don’t equal NBC’s nightly average because of the ratings for “Football Night in America”.
A little confused here over The Amazing Race’s numbers, seems choppy, almost like a stew of lead-in after lead-in with 60 Minutes being top of the mountain and trickling all the way down to Cold Case. Why not have Cold Case after The Amazing Race since numbers show people aren’t watching Three Rivers?
CBS wouldn’t keep Three Rivers on the air just for Mandy Patinkin? They really promoted him next week as a major EMMY ALERT type thing! The type of thing NBC does when SVU has a special guest star they want to hype.
Even though I don’t watch Brothers, I have to admit that 5 million viewers is strong for that show, especially when American Dad did less. I have a feeling there were some people who didn’t change their channels after football was over, so I would be willing to wager that’s how it got so many viewers.
But I also wouldn’t call it a losing night for Seth McFarlane either. Seeing as though they had an average of almost 6.5 million in viewers is not that bad, especially with all of the good television that was on last night.
Desperate Housewives is getting, well, desperate. This show has to end soon, but I just read that Marc Cherry extended a deal with ABC to continue the show through 2011, so I guess it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
And finally, the only thing “wrong” with Neilsen is that they do not count DVR ratings at the same time they count live watching, those come later. I never watch shows live, only DVR’ed because I can’t stand f-ing commercials, lol.
Also, Ted, maybe this will help clear things up: Sure, any network can try to follow their own ratings and “try” to come up with a ratings system, but when it comes down to it, Neilsen is the only one that matters, seeing as though shows are cancelled based on how they perform, or lack there of.
One of my pet theories for why Three Rivers is still on the air is that CBS is trying to woo Mandy Patinkin back to headline another series for them in 2010…
^What, so he can suddenly ditch it in 2011?
huddy
yes currently Nielsen is the only one that matter but ABC, NBC, CBS etc wouldn’t be starting their own service if they didn’t hope for taht system to oen day supercede Nielsen.
10pm seems to be a problem for both ABC and CBS but hopefully once football is over B&S wil go up. Cold Case may stay at its current levels as long as Three Rivers is there so Id suggest to CBS once they axe Three Rivers, to move Cold Case back to 9 and premiere a new series at 10.
ted – they’re not starting they’re own service. Each network has kicked in $100,000 for research while continuing to pay Nielsen millions. It has worked in terms of making Nielsen dance a little faster with “TV Everywhere Measurement”, but realistically the only place they are launching their own service is in traffic seeking headlines on web sites.
Ted, no one is starting their own service. All they did was form a group to talk about how much they hate Nielsen. They never planned to start any sort of competition for Nielsen, just try to get Nielsen to bend to their will.
Saying Desperate Housewives was a “snoozefest” is pretty accurate. When there are 22 episodes a season you’re bound to get a couple of dull shows just as American Dad & Cleveland Show did as well. Aside from The Amazing Race, the highlight of the evening was Family Guy’s second episode “Hanna Banana”, lots of fun!
Holly — tell me about it! For some reason, Mandy Patinkin keeps getting shows despite his history of quitting when it suits him.
I really thought FOX’s Seth Variety stunt would do better but whats worse is American Dad’s series low at 7:30. Hopefully when Footballs gone and American Dad moves to that slot around March, it will perform better. Three Rivers keeps dropping but only slightly each week. Does anybody have a new guess on when CBS will pull the series?
I don’t think I’ll ever understand why people like the Cowboys so much.
Brothers On Sunday Nights On FOX did better than it did on Friday. Evan Beat American Dad. Tough might be alot of that NFL Overrun in their.
i would never get invested in a series again that was headlined by mandy patinkin…
he’s burned us twice already…
In the fast few weeks I have commented about how the quality of DH has really fallen and it doesnt surpise me that the falling ratings are coinciding with the falling quality of the storylines. Saying that, I thought last nights episode was the best of the season, its a shame that it was also its lowest rated episode of the season.
As far as B&S, I agree with most of the people in this chat, the show just isnt as good anymore and too much emphasis is placed on the secondary characters and not enough on the walker family. I remember last year when it was reported that the show was going in a different direction to attract a more yoputhful audience. Well, The youth hasnt arrived and it drove off alot of the older viewers. I still like the show but I am resigned to the fact that this is more than likely its last season. its a shame because any show that has Sally Field in it is worth keeping around!
Next week SNF:
Tom Brady + undefeated Peyton Manning = monster rating.
Since Three Rivers is sticking around for sweeps, I think CBS will air all 13 episodes then replace it in January.
Now can NBC get a non-sports show, any show to have those numbers….
Shaz – Im not sure about all 13 but its likely Three Rivers will air at least through the 22nd. I never would imagine that would happen, and if it somehow does air all 13 through January it would likely be on saturdays, so CBS can focus on airing a new series after Cold Case. Id say by January, air Flashpoint at 10 sundays, move The Good Wife to 10pm Fridays (when Numb3rs finishes) and premiere Miami Trauma Tuesdays at 10. Flashpoint doesnt seem to mesh fridays at 10 with the other series and the only way to test how well The Good Wife does is by moving it to another night.
I agree with you Shaz, however if next Sunday is the last airingof 3R it would not surprise me….in a way I hate it because each week it seems to be getting better….more character development, and thank goodness no one had to die to get a transplant this week……I think that is a downer for some…..JMO
Shaz I thought CBS was keeping it because of his upcoming movie. Now that’s funny.
Last night – I dvr’d DH and watched White Collar. OMG that guy is way cuter than Alex O’Loughlin. And unlike Three Rivers – it is an interesting show.
But I’m not a Neilsen household so who cares what I do?
Don’t let my name fool you. Three Rivers does zip for me.
Still waiting for the Donate life briggage to come on and make their scripted posts. I am cracking myself up.
10pm seems to be a problem for both ABC and CBS but hopefully once football is over B&S wil go up. Cold Case may stay at its current levels as long as Three Rivers is there so Id suggest to CBS once they axe Three Rivers, to move Cold Case back to 9 and premiere a new series at 10.
I don’t agree with the idea of moving Cold Case back. CC at last years numbers would have been a mediocre lead-in for a new show, but this years numbers would kill any chances for a new show. It might recover some if moved back to 9, but it has already been damaged by the lead-in/timeslot this fall and I don’t think can bounce back to decent numbers. They need to give the new show the best possible chance, and 10:00 behind a fading Cold Case is not that.
I’m kind of new here but I love this site, just a quick question. Can somebody tell me when the updated ratings come out for friday night?
JaySin, they should be in soon. Follow Travis Yanan on Twitter to get them as soon as they are posted.
Dan — I don’t think CBS will start Flashpoint or a new series in late November or December. That’s why I think CBS will burn off Three Rivers during the holiday season. If it doesn’t get pre-empted for holiday specials, the 13th episode will air on Dec 27. If it does get pre-empted, the 13th episode can air early January, with its replacement starting in the second or third week of January.
The writing on Three Rivers has improved. But it’s ironic that a show that’s supposed to be focusing on organ transplant medicine only improves after the “organ transpant of the week” stories become B-plots, with regular ER-style stories taking up the A-plots. The lead transplant surgeon spends more time in the ER than he does tending to transplant patients! (Because apparently Three Rivers doesn’t have any ER doctors, only one ER resident. I guess the hospital maxed out its budget on all its high-tech toys.)
It doesn’t matter what network show is matched against the NFL, especially when the Dallas Cowboys are involved. They have been and continue to be the NFL’s most watched team and consistently draw strong ratings.
I don’t believe it has as much to do with Tony Romo per se, he just happens to be the quarterback of “America’s Team”. I wouldn’t mind being Tony Romo for a day though.
Thanks Julia.
Was Cold Case on at a different time last year? What was on just before it?
Cal Johnson Was Hilarious.
@PlayBackJunkie,
Last year Cold Case was on Sundays at 9. This year it got pushed to 10.
Just when you thought FOX hammered the nails into the coffin of the variety genre with “Osbournes Reloaded,” they let Seth MacFarlane dig up the corpse.
If those numbers for “Brothers” are not erroneous, those are, like, Back 9 pickup numbers. Well, FOX had to know it would get better ratings Sundays 7:00 than Fridays 8:00. Didn’t the Joe Namath/NBC 3-week-wonder “The Waverly Wonders” teach them anything? Maybe next they can get the Japanese disco band, Pink Lady, to star in a variety show with MacFarlane. They can call it “Pink Lady and Seth.”
Oh, ok. Thanks Holly. I wonder if the later time slot and the addition of 3R, which is tanking, is brining down Cold Case? I’m sure last year CC used to drag in over 10 million some weeks. Or did I imagine that?
Jared, the cowboys are so popular for a lot of reasons. The main reason is their first coach, Tom Landry. He made them a winner in a fairly short amount of time while other franchises that started around the same time flopped. He was a top flite coach on and off the field and got the team off to a great start. He’s the one who made ‘America’s team’ truly America’s team.
In the 80’s and 90’s the cowboys almost always had the big national game. Twenty and thirty years ago the networks didn’t have as much regional coverage as they do today so most of the nation would end up watching a cowboys/redskins game, whether they really wanted to or not. Madden/Summerall, probably the best game calling duo ever, always called the cowboy games, which added quite a bit, gave the games a more important feel. They were a great duo, still haven’t been replaced.
The league did a great job selling the cowboys brand too. During the cowboys run in the 90’s they often benefitted from friendly spots and questionable calls by the refs but by then they were the team you love or love to hate so no one seemed to mind.
I do find it kinda odd that people love to follow one particular team over such a long period of time through so many changes. The players, even the greats, come and go, as do the coaches. Even old ‘hole in the roof’ has been replaced. The only thing that has basically stayed the same is the uniforms. They do have a great logo. Maybe people have been cheering for the star on the helmet all this time? Cowboys verses Indians? Thats a scary thought.
I expect the numbers for “Brothers” to fall dramatically.
FOX’s 2 late games
Panthers at Saints (who are ranked #1 by ESPN) — aired in North Carolina, South Carolina, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Missouri
Lions at Seahawks — aried in Oregon and Washington (not a factor), and Michigan
source: map of Week 9 markets
JR, good info. I love those maps!
Nice to know American Dad is already renewed. I think we got a sneak peek at how AD will do at 7:30 for the couple weeks Sons of Tucson will be on.
I hope they don’t plan on doing another Seth and Alex special like last night’s. It was dreadful. He makes good cartoons but the variety show is dead for a reason.
Dear Fox:
Now do you believe that Family Guy is childish crap?
Love,
The Television Audience / Coalition for Not Pre-Empting The Simpsons for Three Episodes of GD Family Guy, Are You Kidding Me
The Simpsons are sitting comfortably in their timeslot and have been for a long time, No worries of Homer & Marge getting the boot from Fox and neither should Family Guy who worked their asses off to get back to where they belong. The problem with this is, McFarland is spreading the comedy too thin now with 3 shows as opposed to putting GREAT effort into one, It’s dicey.
Copasetic: Hindsight is 20/20, so the Simpsons seems a little more commercial after South Park, Family Guy, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, etc.( They certainly can’t jump the shark and have a Cartman or Brian the Dog copycat wrinkle at this point. In fact, their Halloween shows remain some of their greatest exactly because it WAS an excuse to jump the shark and go crazy, defy all logic of a series, kill off the characters and even the world, etc. ) But I agree: the first decade of the Simpsons, show per show, was better than FG by a mile. I know the creators of South Park have stated Simpsons was the greatesr TV show of all time – if you create or enjoy adult animation, there is actually truth to that rhetoric. I doubt, having seen MacFarland and some of the writers interveiwed, Seth ( either one) would disgaree with that assessment.
Either way, when the “January Juggernauts” come back, they will punch The Amazing Race in the gut, Slap Lisa Simpson in the face and steam-roller all the competition.
The Amazing Race is actually great this season. This is from someone who watches ZERO hours of reality/competition TV. It’s fun and doesn’t seem to be suffering from the staleness that Survivor and American Idol seem to be. Just my opinion.
Brothers & Sisters…No wonder it’s sinking. It’s the most over dramatic hour of TV. It’s about on the same level as Days Of Our Lives.
DOOL is drab, ATWT is the “24″ of soaps, Just wish it had a good following like “24″. Anyhoo @jay, South Park & Aqua Teen Dealy are NOT on the 5 Major networks, so your point is invalid. I’m a South Park fan as well, but they are not hurting on the Comedy Network, matter of fact Mr Parker & Mr Stone are doing great in their slot! Thank God!
Does anyone know why CBS only ordered 1 installment of TAR? for the 2009-2010 Season. Oh by the way last nights airing of the Amazing Race…Emmy Winner!
Yes Richard TAR was great . It is one of my favorite shows . I cannot say the same for Three Rivers , it is so so boring. I used to watch Cold Case , but I got kind of tired of it . After TAR I always move to cable. I hope CBS to keep TAR for a while.
TAR 16 is going to air in the spring.
I’m really glad that The Amazing Race is holding up pretty well. Brothers & Sisters drop to 2.9 is not panic inducing for the fans – yet, but if does not climb back to the 3.0 level next week again then something is in trouble. But I do agree that they should try Brothers and Sisters on another night (Tuesday or Wednesday) just to see if it could work
Creatively, Brothers & Sisters has been amazing this seaosn imo
Yes, Moving a show always results in good ratings right? Ask Ugly Betty fans or Third Watch fans or The 3rd Rock From The Sun fans. Works out great.
The Mandy Patinkin Three Rivers epi will air this Sunday, November 15, and TR has issued a press release about the November 22 epi, “The Kindness of Strangers”. On November 29 CBS will air a 2 hour Hallmark holiday Movie. Currently, Three Rivers is shooting its 10th episode. CBS gave Three Rivers a 13 episode order. I’m not sure if that takes into account the original pilot which never aired. But right now given the scheduling, I believe that the last of the 13 episodes would air sometime in January. Again, I remain cautiously optimistic.
Cold Case again aired late… maybe they should just cancel it like they want to and get it over with! Sick of CBS.
Desperate Housewives should be moved out of Sunday and into some other day of the week, perhaps Wednesday after all the comedies? What do you think?
R.G: I don’t think that will happen since aside from Grey’s, no show could get that kind of ratings DH is getting on Sundays. DH is doing just fine on Sundays
Not really. Not like it used to be. And I think football is the reason why, it could move to Wednesday right after the comedies. It can suck Leno and CSI: NY viewers with that in the schedule.
If they will pull DH there, the entire Sunday line up could collapse. Getting 4.0+ in the demo is still good and most shows these days have difficulty reaching that level and DH have tougher competition. And it’s perfect counter-programming for football.
thanks fox. It was about time you killed American dad by sending it to the 7:30 deathslot. A 2.1….season six will be the last if they keep this up.
I liked the comedy special, I don’t really know what people were expecting but it lived up to my expectations. The 8:00 family guy was better than the last two episodes by a lot. I haven’t watched the 9pm fg yet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/arts/television/10arts-EASYWINFOR...
CBS ranked second for the night with its line-up of “60 Minutes” (19.1 million), “The Amazing Race” (12.9 million), “Three Rivers” (8.6 million) and “Cold Case” (8.2 million), as the network received a boost from an overrun of its afternoon football coverage.
DH was awful last night, yeah total filler.
The new neighborhood women, mystery is so boring.
It would be totally assume if they bring Tony Soprano in too whack Andriana, like they did on the Soprano’s.
Has CBS started to promote anything for midseason yet?
I’ve seen ABC LOST commercials, FOX 24, but there established shows.
To whomever is in charge of this website and of posting up the ratings, just a heads up next sunday’s nbc football game is pats vs. colts. Now I don’t know how big a football fan you guys are, but this is gonna be HUGE!!!!!!!! so when you post the ratings the next day, the title should probably focus more on who came in second because its pretty obvious who will come in first
Go Pats!
Those overrun numbers don’t work for me. When there’s no football, 60 minutes get’s around 1.9. I could see a bump if Amazing Race was on after Football, but 60 minutes, audience seems different.
CBS is still insane to waste a plum 9pm Sunday slot, with your 2nd worst show.I know Sunday is a blackhole for CBS, but it’s the biggest night for ad dollars.
Look at what FOX tried with FRINGE at 9pm Thursday, it’s getting killed, but short term hit, for potential long term gain.
But yet CBS is content with a 8pm comedy block with bad ratings to establish new comedy block.
The AlexO freaks are “cautiously optimistic”.
I’m thinking more like “pipe dream”.
The show’s getting lousy ratings and they’re getting even lower. As it is, a rating of less than 2.0 in the 18-49 range isn’t acceptable to major networks such as ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox.
The show has lousy writing and horrendous direction. Drama students from Hollywood High could probably do a better job with Three Rivers.
CBS needs to lower the boom on this show and replace it with better scripted programming.
Amyvil – I believe 8 of Three Rivers will air by November 22, but if CBS doesnt pull the series the remaining 5 eps should be burned off Dec-Jan. Im surprised it hasnt been pulled yet but I guess for some reason CBS feels they need to keep it on. The fact that Rivers does better than Cold Case may be the reason its still on. Cold Case will be axed in May however.
Johnthemon – It was just for the special night, however American Dad is tentatively scheduled to move to 7:30 so Sons of Tucson can air at 8:30. Next season American Dad will either air at 8:30 or 9:30. Dad isnt going anywhere anytime soon, depsite low numbers. FOX seems satisfied overall and they just ordered another season.
In regards to TRDLAFan’s message, do we know what the final numbers are for CBS? I keep reading 8 mil for TR and that can’t be right can it? If so, is it only that high because of the overrun?
Marie, the final numbers aren’t available yet. I assume the 8.6 mil number was found by adding the three half hours in which Three Hours aired at least partially and dividing by three. It will drop in the finals, which should be available in a few hours.
Thanks Julia! Waiting on what the “real” numbers are. It seems TR fans are overly excited even if it just 8 mil LOL.
Vladimir says:
November 9, 2009 at 10:36 am
DH was great last night, f-ing football had to ruin that.
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Football is real!! Your deperate housewifes is a show about people cheating on each other. Im glad f-ing dh didnt ruin Lord Football
Looks like 7.99 mil and a 1.8 for TR. Is this enough to keep it going and aren’t these numbers still inflated due to the overrun? I don’t know that’s why I’m asking and this little tidbit is interesting:
http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/kecks-ex … -3158.html
Hmmmmm……2010?
Marie, correct, the final Live+SD adults 18-49 rating for Three Rivers was a 1.8. It’s still dead.
Yanan says:
Three Rivers (9:20pm)
- 7.985 million viewers
- 5.2/8 HH
- 1.8/4 A18-49
And, a dramatic fall for “Brothers” from 2.3/6 to about 1.0/3:
Brothers (7pm, 15 minutes, 73% coverage, FOX usually is 98%)
- 1.663 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.7/2 A18-49
Brothers (7:15pm, 14 minutes, 97% coverage)
- 3.421 million viewers
- 2.1/3 HH
- 1.4/4 A18-49
Bill, thanks, and here’s next week’s sole late game on CBS:
Chiefs at Raiders — Kansas and Missouri, as well as Miami, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Detroit, (and parts of California and Nevada, but that wouldn’t affect the numbers).
source: week 10 map
J.R., what a ratings prize Chiefs at Raiders is likely to be. I know there is some afternoon scheduling flexibility for CBS and Fox, but I wonder when their deadlines for kickoff time changes are.
WOA! where did brothers come from? I thought this show was dead, but with a 2.3 and 5 million viewers, and since it airs on FOX, definite shot at sticking around with those numbers. The question is, will FOX move it again, or let it be sundays at 7.
Bill, according to the flex rules, the deadline for kick-off changes is 12 days (6 for week 17), and flex begins in week 11, next week (no changes).
Bob – FOX will run Brothers as scheduled and burn off the remaining episodes on November 22 and then double up on December 13 and December 27. I think its too late for FOX to reconsider ordering more Brothers, plus theres no timeslots in January.
Dan, bob, why would FOX reconsider “Brothers” when it got a 1.0 in the finals? (see: the fifth comment above this one)
J.R. – They wouldnt, I guess the original 2.3 and 5 million was misleading to Bob. Overall Brothers has become another victim of the friday night death slot along with fan favorite low rated Dollhouse and the syndication sitcom Til Death.
“I remain cautiously optimistic.”
Hi, Amyvil. We can all try and remain as optimistic as we like. Unfortunately that still doesn’t change the basic fact. Unless Three Rivers starts showing a significant improvement in numbers for the 18-49 year old demographic, the chances of it remaining on CBS’s schedule are practically none. Poor ratings in the 18-49 demographic equals unhappy Advertisers equals Advertisers taking their business elsewhere equals CBS losing money equals bye bye Three Rivers. That’s why they call it show ‘business’. And yeah it does suck because I actually do like the show. And you know I’m a fan of Alex’s as well. I had hoped this show would do a lot better for him. But at the end of the day CBS is trying to run a business, and make a profit. If something is losing money for them, they’re not likely to hang onto it for very long. It wouldn’t make good business sense. *hugs* I’ll see you around the ML and TR boards.