Might Law & Order: SVU, 30 Rock & The Office Be NBC’s Only Scripted Survivors?

Posted on 02 December 2009 by Bill Gorman

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows for the 2010-11 season (results through November 29, 2009):

  • Likely To Be Canceled By May, 2010
  • Some Danger Of Being Canceled By May, 2010
  • Likely to Be Renewed For The 2010-11 Season
Program Renew/ Cancel Index
Law & Order (F), (P) 0.54
Trauma (P) 0.68
Mercy (P) 0.71
Parks & Recreation (P) 0.75
Community 0.82
Heroes (P) 0.90
Law & Order: SVU (P) 0.97
30 Rock (P) 1.12
The Office (P) 1.53

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The deal between GE and Comcast to create a Comcast controlled subsidiary including NBC Universal is expected to be announced any day now. Well in advance of the deal there has been lots of chatter from both entertainment writers and commenters about “What’s Comcast going to do?”. Most is nonsense like “Jay Leno’s off the air the next day!”

While the prospect that NBC cancels all but 3 shows in its current scripted line up (no comment on Chuck!), is very far fetched (I don’t think the network has the bandwidth to replace that many shows from an organizational logistics perspective) it’s a lot more rational than The Jay Leno Show going off the air before the start of next fall’s season for exactly the same reason. There is no giant treasure trove of hit shows sitting unseen in some closet at NBC just waiting for the current dreck to be booted, or they would have done it already instead of ordering 3 more episodes of a loser like Trauma.

If Law & Order can hold a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating on Friday (maybe even a 1.6 rating) I think it’s back on NBC next season. With a 1.7 rating and assuming that NBC’s overall average falls after football to a 2.5, that would produce an Index of 0.68. CBS renews its Friday dramas with those relative ratings, I figure NBC will too.

Trauma got an order for three more episodes. Sort of like a condemned man being given three more days to live.  Mercy’s ratings make it certain to be canceled at the end of the season. It has a 22 episode order, but it has done no better than Trauma.

The ratings carnage at NBC is so complete that unless a miracle happens this spring with their new shows (and their development slate) the network very well may have to have to hold its nose and keep some of its well below average performers. If that happens, 30 minute sitcoms like Community and Parks & Recreation are the likely candidates.

For show’s in the Some Danger category only, I am including short term Index indicators for  shows either with sharply improving  :mrgreen: or deteriorating :oops: Indexes, based on 4 week Indexes instead of season to date Indexes.

This is a breakdown of NBC scripted shows and their renewal and cancellation prospects. Here are links to the other networks:

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Notes:

The Renew/Cancel Index is a show’s Season To Date adults 18-49 rating divided by its network’s Season to Date average 18-49 rating. If a show’s season to date 18-49 ratings average equalled its network’s 18-49 average, the show would have an Index of 1.00. Without special factors, scripted shows that were more than 10% below their network’s average are typically canceled by the end of the broadcast primetime season.

Factors that could cause a show to be renewed with a well below average Index:

  • (F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays have been renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.
  • (S) – Syndication: Shows nearing syndication (66-88 episodes), often have economic factors that trump ratings leading to renewal.
  • (T) – Third Party: Shows that have a portion of their cost underwritten by a 3rd party can be renewed with substantially lower ratings.
  • (P) – Produced by the network’s production company – For shows on the bubble, being produced by the network’s corporate production company can be a survival advantage. For real losers, it’s unlikely to help.

While I initially tried to designate shows with “plum” timeslots, I think that’s hard to make that call at this point in the season. It’s likely still a factor, but will have to be an “after the fact” call.


What’s the History of the Index and How Did It Do In the Past? Check out the results from the 2007-8 season and the 2008-9 season.

Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2009 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved. All ratings used are Live+Same Day viewing.

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  • tlctaurus

    Wow. It’s crazy how far NBC has fallen in such a short timeframe.

  • tlctaurus

    Wow. It’s crazy how far NBC has fallen in such a short timeframe.

  • the128boy

    If Parks doesn’t return for a third season I may have to cry a little.

    I’m really counting on that “buzz” to come through! :)

  • John

    They’ve got no choice but to keep all the comedies, cancel the rest, and keep the greens. Heroes is a possible stay.

  • the128boy

    If Parks doesn’t return for a third season I may have to cry a little.

    I’m really counting on that “buzz” to come through! :)

  • John

    They’ve got no choice but to keep all the comedies, cancel the rest, and keep the greens. Heroes is a possible stay.

  • Tom

    L&O getting another season for the record books is a lock. That season airing on NBC, as opposed to TNT, now seems ever more likely.

    SVU has an absurd cost per episode. If NBC’s schedule didn’t completely suck, there would be doubts as to its survival.

    Hell, at this point P&R and Community could lead off Wednesday nights next year. It all depends on development.

  • Tom

    L&O getting another season for the record books is a lock. That season airing on NBC, as opposed to TNT, now seems ever more likely.

    SVU has an absurd cost per episode. If NBC’s schedule didn’t completely suck, there would be doubts as to its survival.

    Hell, at this point P&R and Community could lead off Wednesday nights next year. It all depends on development.

  • Tommy

    While it’s unlikely NBC will cancel all but 3 shows, I would say a bold move like that is something that could get NBC out of the trouble it’s in. NBC needs to generate some major positive buzz, they got buzz with the Leno move, but that was far from positive. I creative shift with a lot of shows in development might get them the attention that the desperately need.

  • John

    I watched Mercy, and as much as I love MT, it has to be the must boring, pointless, piece of crap I’ve ever watched. :|

  • Tommy

    While it’s unlikely NBC will cancel all but 3 shows, I would say a bold move like that is something that could get NBC out of the trouble it’s in. NBC needs to generate some major positive buzz, they got buzz with the Leno move, but that was far from positive. I creative shift with a lot of shows in development might get them the attention that the desperately need.

  • John

    I watched Mercy, and as much as I love MT, it has to be the must boring, pointless, piece of crap I’ve ever watched. :|

  • OzzieTdoggie

    Well, being I hardly watch NBC, except for a football game or maybe catch a Law and Order, my guess is NBC will turn into a waste land of reality tv and talk shows. I just can’t see this working out for them if they insist on demanding network-based advertising dollars for Grade “C” material. Like CNN, you can’t demand top dollar for a poor product and ratings.
    On the other hand, with the salaries actors and news commentators are demanding to do television, you had to figure the gravy train was coming to an end.

  • OzzieTdoggie

    Well, being I hardly watch NBC, except for a football game or maybe catch a Law and Order, my guess is NBC will turn into a waste land of reality tv and talk shows. I just can’t see this working out for them if they insist on demanding network-based advertising dollars for Grade “C” material. Like CNN, you can’t demand top dollar for a poor product and ratings.
    On the other hand, with the salaries actors and news commentators are demanding to do television, you had to figure the gravy train was coming to an end.

  • Daniel

    What happened the to the NBC? After Friends and Frasier left, the network has seen a sharp decline in tv hits. There problems lie is sorry programming that only targets one specific audience and the fact that they can’t attract people to their shows.

    They need a complete fresh start like ABC did in 2004 with Lost and Desperate Housewives. The Office isn’t the perfect example of a top network show. So NBC execs, you need to find some solid fresh hits to improve performance….and Leno doesn’t count!

  • Daniel

    What happened the to the NBC? After Friends and Frasier left, the network has seen a sharp decline in tv hits. There problems lie is sorry programming that only targets one specific audience and the fact that they can’t attract people to their shows.

    They need a complete fresh start like ABC did in 2004 with Lost and Desperate Housewives. The Office isn’t the perfect example of a top network show. So NBC execs, you need to find some solid fresh hits to improve performance….and Leno doesn’t count!

  • Chuck Collins

    Don’t worry. It’s CHUCK to the rescue in January!! He’ll save NBC and Comcast to boot.

  • Chuck Collins

    Don’t worry. It’s CHUCK to the rescue in January!! He’ll save NBC and Comcast to boot.

  • Brad

    Heroes, I think, is dead. While the ratings are decent (for NBC), canning Heroes is a good signal to viewers that the new NBC means business.

    Mercy will get another season. NBC needs a medical drama and Mercy is it. Trauma is dead.

    Chuck will come back unless it bombs out in ratings.

    Thursday shows are safe.

    L&O and/or SVU – Only 1 will come back.

  • John

    LOL. Chuck will fail.

  • Brad

    Heroes, I think, is dead. While the ratings are decent (for NBC), canning Heroes is a good signal to viewers that the new NBC means business.

    Mercy will get another season. NBC needs a medical drama and Mercy is it. Trauma is dead.

    Chuck will come back unless it bombs out in ratings.

    Thursday shows are safe.

    L&O and/or SVU – Only 1 will come back.

  • John

    LOL. Chuck will fail.

  • John

    Why the heck did they dump Medium? :|

  • Brad

    Though, the only reason Mercy and Community/P&R come back is because NBC has nothing to replace it with and can’t start the fall 2010 season out with so little veteran shows.

  • John

    Why the heck did they dump Medium? :|

  • http://msn Vincenzo

    ’30 Rock” is “likely to be renewed for the 2010-11 season” WHY?! This show has come in 3rd or last in its timeslot for years, yet their Hollywood “brethern” keep heaping awards on this show ignoring the fact that NO ONE IS WATCHING! NBC keeps trying to shove this show down viewers throats but viewers, by not watching, are telling NBC that ’30 Rock” is not funny and not a good show worthy of being on in prime time and telling NBC to “shove

    Let’s face it; ’30 Rock” is crap. Cancel it already and move on! These NBC execs make the “big bucks”? WHY?!

  • Brad

    Though, the only reason Mercy and Community/P&R come back is because NBC has nothing to replace it with and can’t start the fall 2010 season out with so little veteran shows.

  • CSM

    Right now I think Heroes has a shot for at least a half season renewal if for no other reason than it is unusual for a network to cancel all shows on a given night and try to launch a whole new night (ABC Wednesdays being an exception). Of course this depends on whether ratings drop further or hold on.

    Community looking like another Earl, it’s not produced by NBC so P&R looks better because of that. But if NBC doesn’t have any new comedies for the fall, then it could hang on to all 4 assuming it wants to leave a 2 hour comedy block on Thursdays. Right now with all their other issues and the relatively cheap cost of the shows, I doubt that both Community and P&R would be cancelled.

  • mike

    I’m gonna say Law & Order, Community, and Parks all get renewed. Maybe Heroes for a short 13-ep season.

    And if Chuck is passable I could see it back again as a midseason replacement or maybe on Fridays (I hope not). Trauma and Mercy are obviously goners.

    NBC needs to get rid of Leno and set up a tentative schedule w/ a bunch of Datelines and a BL spin-off while they get their act together. Maybe America’s Got Talent in the Fall would be a good idea?

  • CSM

    Right now I think Heroes has a shot for at least a half season renewal if for no other reason than it is unusual for a network to cancel all shows on a given night and try to launch a whole new night (ABC Wednesdays being an exception). Of course this depends on whether ratings drop further or hold on.

    Community looking like another Earl, it’s not produced by NBC so P&R looks better because of that. But if NBC doesn’t have any new comedies for the fall, then it could hang on to all 4 assuming it wants to leave a 2 hour comedy block on Thursdays. Right now with all their other issues and the relatively cheap cost of the shows, I doubt that both Community and P&R would be cancelled.

  • mike

    I’m gonna say Law & Order, Community, and Parks all get renewed. Maybe Heroes for a short 13-ep season.

    And if Chuck is passable I could see it back again as a midseason replacement or maybe on Fridays (I hope not). Trauma and Mercy are obviously goners.

    NBC needs to get rid of Leno and set up a tentative schedule w/ a bunch of Datelines and a BL spin-off while they get their act together. Maybe America’s Got Talent in the Fall would be a good idea?

  • John

    30 Rock is hilarious.

  • mike

    … When I say “I hope not” I mean I hope Chuck’s not on Fridays, not that I hope it’s not renewed at all. I LOVE that show.

  • John

    30 Rock is hilarious.

  • mike

    … When I say “I hope not” I mean I hope Chuck’s not on Fridays, not that I hope it’s not renewed at all. I LOVE that show.

  • Anonymous

    @mike,
    I think it is unlikely that all 4 of the Thursday comedies get renewed. Chances are NBC will want to try to launch at least one new show, which means one current show has to go.

    I do think L&O’s chances are pretty good though.

  • Holly

    @mike,
    I think it is unlikely that all 4 of the Thursday comedies get renewed. Chances are NBC will want to try to launch at least one new show, which means one current show has to go.

    I do think L&O’s chances are pretty good though.

  • shelly

    As it’s been stated here before, Leno is not going anywhere. He did a smart thing and locked NBC into a 2-year contract with his show.

    Is there any news on how NBC’s midseason is shaping up? I know we speculated a while back that Parenthood was in trouble due to the recent recasting of Maura Tierney’s role Any word on that or any of their other planned shows?

  • shelly

    As it’s been stated here before, Leno is not going anywhere. He did a smart thing and locked NBC into a 2-year contract with his show.

    Is there any news on how NBC’s midseason is shaping up? I know we speculated a while back that Parenthood was in trouble due to the recent recasting of Maura Tierney’s role Any word on that or any of their other planned shows?

  • Andoni

    Well, I think Heroes’ renewal mostly depends on how the ratings will do the rest of the season. Heroes can do really well in its previous time slot (9 p.m.) and the last Monday ratings were a really good number for this season.

    I don’t know… anything can happen, but I’m pretty sure it will have at least a half season renewal.

    Greetings from Spain, it’s really nice to read you every week :) .

  • Andoni

    Well, I think Heroes’ renewal mostly depends on how the ratings will do the rest of the season. Heroes can do really well in its previous time slot (9 p.m.) and the last Monday ratings were a really good number for this season.

    I don’t know… anything can happen, but I’m pretty sure it will have at least a half season renewal.

    Greetings from Spain, it’s really nice to read you every week :) .

  • Tommy

    Holly I think you’re absolutely right, the only question is does NBC cancel both Parks and Community, or if they only cancel 1 which do they pick? Community is doing slightly better than Parks, but Parks is produced by NBC. I think if they had to pick one out of the two to keep it would be Parks because of the in-house production and NBC really likes SNL former cast members.

  • Tommy

    Holly I think you’re absolutely right, the only question is does NBC cancel both Parks and Community, or if they only cancel 1 which do they pick? Community is doing slightly better than Parks, but Parks is produced by NBC. I think if they had to pick one out of the two to keep it would be Parks because of the in-house production and NBC really likes SNL former cast members.

  • fammel

    mercy is awesome!!!!!!!

  • fammel

    mercy is awesome!!!!!!!

  • PhillyBoy

    I would say for NBC’s sake to only keep SVU, Mercy, The Office, Parenthood, and Trauma going forward. NBC needs to shake things up big time and the only way to do that is to have at least 60% of their schedule brand new quality shows that can grow for the next three years. NBC should start producing cable kind of dramas and pick up some better comedies like those of the Must See TV lineup.

    Comcast you might be finally saving NBC.

  • PhillyBoy

    I would say for NBC’s sake to only keep SVU, Mercy, The Office, Parenthood, and Trauma going forward. NBC needs to shake things up big time and the only way to do that is to have at least 60% of their schedule brand new quality shows that can grow for the next three years. NBC should start producing cable kind of dramas and pick up some better comedies like those of the Must See TV lineup.

    Comcast you might be finally saving NBC.

  • scifi fan

    Does’t Comcast own a production company already and COULD they be putting together some new shows or even have a few projects already that have not been pitched to the networks? If so maybe a full schedule of new programs is already being planned behind the scenes?

  • Michael

    Brad, Mercy’s been consistently getting a 2.0 or less. A drama can’t survive with those numbers.

  • scifi fan

    Does’t Comcast own a production company already and COULD they be putting together some new shows or even have a few projects already that have not been pitched to the networks? If so maybe a full schedule of new programs is already being planned behind the scenes?

  • Michael

    Brad, Mercy’s been consistently getting a 2.0 or less. A drama can’t survive with those numbers.

  • Tommy

    PhillyBoy, no matter what happens Trauma won’t be back next year. It’s ratings are horrendous. The only reason Trauma got an additional 3 episodes was because NBC had a lack of options. Parenthood hasn’t been tested yet, so you can’t say how that show will go either way. Mercy won’t be coming back for 2010-2011 either, it’s ratings are just as bad as Trauma’s.

  • Tommy

    PhillyBoy, no matter what happens Trauma won’t be back next year. It’s ratings are horrendous. The only reason Trauma got an additional 3 episodes was because NBC had a lack of options. Parenthood hasn’t been tested yet, so you can’t say how that show will go either way. Mercy won’t be coming back for 2010-2011 either, it’s ratings are just as bad as Trauma’s.

  • Guest

    Leno is not going anywhere.

    Exactly: NBC can’t launch five new hours of programs when it already needs to replace a large chunk of primetime.

  • http://twitter.com/dosomethingelse J.R. Herbaugh

    Leno is not going anywhere.

    Exactly: NBC can’t launch five new hours of programs when it already needs to replace a large chunk of primetime.

  • Michael

    Shelly, they could still buy Leno out of his contract.

  • Michael

    Shelly, they could still buy Leno out of his contract.

  • Alex

    if 30 rock and the office are the only scripted shows on NBC thats fine by me, because those are the only shows i watch on NBC along with Chuck!

  • Alex

    if 30 rock and the office are the only scripted shows on NBC thats fine by me, because those are the only shows i watch on NBC along with Chuck!

  • aok

    Yeah, I figured when Comcast comes in, get ready to be dumbed down even more.

  • aok

    Yeah, I figured when Comcast comes in, get ready to be dumbed down even more.

  • shelly

    Michael, a) they would lose a crapload of money if they did that and it’d would not be worth it and b) as JR said, they already have way too many timeslots to fill up as it is and not enough good alternatives with which to fill said timeslots.

  • http://www.emulationhq.com/ Dave

    @mike, I heard Chuck was on Mondays in Heroes’ 8pm slot which means Heroes goes up against House and the 2.5Men/Big Bang Theory comedy block. Heroes is toast when it comes back. No fifth season there imho.

    I only hope Community gets a second chance because it is genuinely funny, not as much as Modern Family, but it is the second best new comedy this year.

    And as for Chuck.. the dude now knows kung-fu and three other martial arts iirc. And it got an extra 6 episodes, taking it to 19 with the possibility of Scott Bakula reprising his role as Chuck’s dad. No way is Chuck going to miss out on a 4th season in Fall 2010. Did I mention how forward I’m looking to January 10th-11th with 3 episodes of Chuck in 48 hours? Now that’s awesome.

  • Tommy

    Michael, they could buy Leno out, but what would the motivation be? NBC has bigger problems then Leno. And Leno is making them money even with low ratings. They need to use that Leno money and put it into development to try and repair 8-10 Monday’s & Wednesdays, 8-9 Thursdays, and 8-11 on Sunday’s. NBC won’t worry about ditching Leno until they fix the rest of primetime.

  • shelly

    Michael, a) they would lose a crapload of money if they did that and it’d would not be worth it and b) as JR said, they already have way too many timeslots to fill up as it is and not enough good alternatives with which to fill said timeslots.

  • http://www.emulationhq.com Dave

    @mike, I heard Chuck was on Mondays in Heroes’ 8pm slot which means Heroes goes up against House and the 2.5Men/Big Bang Theory comedy block. Heroes is toast when it comes back. No fifth season there imho.

    I only hope Community gets a second chance because it is genuinely funny, not as much as Modern Family, but it is the second best new comedy this year.

    And as for Chuck.. the dude now knows kung-fu and three other martial arts iirc. And it got an extra 6 episodes, taking it to 19 with the possibility of Scott Bakula reprising his role as Chuck’s dad. No way is Chuck going to miss out on a 4th season in Fall 2010. Did I mention how forward I’m looking to January 10th-11th with 3 episodes of Chuck in 48 hours? Now that’s awesome.

  • Tommy

    Michael, they could buy Leno out, but what would the motivation be? NBC has bigger problems then Leno. And Leno is making them money even with low ratings. They need to use that Leno money and put it into development to try and repair 8-10 Monday’s & Wednesdays, 8-9 Thursdays, and 8-11 on Sunday’s. NBC won’t worry about ditching Leno until they fix the rest of primetime.

  • CK

    Have to keep in mind that NBC has no bench. For this and so many other reasons, good and bad, Leno stays put.
    The comedies are picked up for another season. The comedies are steady and showing a modicium of growth.
    Due to “bird in the hand…” logic, odds are 50/50 for each that Heroes and L&O are picked up.
    No future beyond what is all ready ordered for Mercy and Trauma.

  • Brad

    Michael – if NBC has nothing to replace it with it’s a better (cheaper) than Trauma.

  • CK

    Have to keep in mind that NBC has no bench. For this and so many other reasons, good and bad, Leno stays put.
    The comedies are picked up for another season. The comedies are steady and showing a modicium of growth.
    Due to “bird in the hand…” logic, odds are 50/50 for each that Heroes and L&O are picked up.
    No future beyond what is all ready ordered for Mercy and Trauma.

  • Brad

    Michael – if NBC has nothing to replace it with it’s a better (cheaper) than Trauma.

  • weepuls_24

    I’m guessing “parks and recreation” is going to survive.

  • weepuls_24

    I’m guessing “parks and recreation” is going to survive.

  • John

    It looks like NBC are in need of the fictional 30 Rock character, ‘Jack Donaghy.’

  • John

    It looks like NBC are in need of the fictional 30 Rock character, ‘Jack Donaghy.’

  • Jared

    Tommy, for the record, Chevy Chase is an SNL alum…

    Only keeping 3 shows is pretty bad for public image (not that NBC has a very good public image now)

    I can see them giving Heroes a 13-14 episode final season, and billing it as such. Obviously won’t do as well as past years, but they need to keep some familiar faces.

    I don’t see Chuck doing any worse than Heroes has been doing at 8 when it returns, and since it won’t change it’s time slot and has such a solid fan base it might just stay around for a season 4.

    I also see Law and Order sticking around for another record breaking season, also billing it as such. Who knows, they might even pair up Heroes and L&O for a “Night of Final Seasons”

    I think Parks and Rec and Community come down to what’s in development comedy-wise.

  • Tommy

    CK, NBC may not have anything on the bench at the moment, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have anything in development. I would think that given the way this season has shaked out they will have more shows in development for next season then some of the other networks do.

  • Jared

    Tommy, for the record, Chevy Chase is an SNL alum…

    Only keeping 3 shows is pretty bad for public image (not that NBC has a very good public image now)

    I can see them giving Heroes a 13-14 episode final season, and billing it as such. Obviously won’t do as well as past years, but they need to keep some familiar faces.

    I don’t see Chuck doing any worse than Heroes has been doing at 8 when it returns, and since it won’t change it’s time slot and has such a solid fan base it might just stay around for a season 4.

    I also see Law and Order sticking around for another record breaking season, also billing it as such. Who knows, they might even pair up Heroes and L&O for a “Night of Final Seasons”

    I think Parks and Rec and Community come down to what’s in development comedy-wise.

  • Tommy

    CK, NBC may not have anything on the bench at the moment, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have anything in development. I would think that given the way this season has shaked out they will have more shows in development for next season then some of the other networks do.

  • Tommy

    Good point Jared, I forgot about Chevy Chase. But with similar ratings Parks will still get the edge over Community if it comes down to 1 of the 2 of them due to being produced in-house. I wouldn’t be surprised if neither show comes back next year though.

  • Tommy

    Good point Jared, I forgot about Chevy Chase. But with similar ratings Parks will still get the edge over Community if it comes down to 1 of the 2 of them due to being produced in-house. I wouldn’t be surprised if neither show comes back next year though.

  • Tommy

    Watch with Kristin is reporting that Heroes may end after this season.

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/index.html

    I don’t know how solid the source is though.

  • Tommy

    Watch with Kristin is reporting that Heroes may end after this season.

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/index.html

    I don’t know how solid the source is though.

  • Dillan

    I think Heroes will most definitely be ending this year. It’s a critical and commercial failure. Yeah, sure, it makes money, but it’s a flop and waste of creative talent and resources.

    I think the L&O, L&O:SVU, 30 Rock, The Office, P&R and Community will all return, but the rest will be cancelled.

  • Dillan

    I think Heroes will most definitely be ending this year. It’s a critical and commercial failure. Yeah, sure, it makes money, but it’s a flop and waste of creative talent and resources.

    I think the L&O, L&O:SVU, 30 Rock, The Office, P&R and Community will all return, but the rest will be cancelled.

  • j

    That would be exciting (an everything must go sale).

    Has anything ever happened as miraculous as ABC’s in one season getting three huge hits when the only thing people were watching there was football & a reality show – similar, though actually slightly worse, to NBC right now? I think those 3 are actually still ABC’s 3 biggest shows and all still in the T10 of 18-49.

    I wish something good would happen for NBC. It’s depressing to see them have consecutive seasons of nothing that hits.

  • j

    That would be exciting (an everything must go sale).

    Has anything ever happened as miraculous as ABC’s in one season getting three huge hits when the only thing people were watching there was football & a reality show – similar, though actually slightly worse, to NBC right now? I think those 3 are actually still ABC’s 3 biggest shows and all still in the T10 of 18-49.

    I wish something good would happen for NBC. It’s depressing to see them have consecutive seasons of nothing that hits.

  • Luke

    Again, why are the execs at NBC promoted and NOT fired?

  • Luke

    Again, why are the execs at NBC promoted and NOT fired?

  • Igor

    @Tom what is the budget for SVU i am very interested?

  • Jared

    Heroes is being set up as a finale anyway, I mean the Volume is called “Redemption” this year.

    For what it’s worth though, Kristin also thinks Ugly Betty’s time slot might save it…

  • Igor

    @Tom what is the budget for SVU i am very interested?

  • Jared

    Heroes is being set up as a finale anyway, I mean the Volume is called “Redemption” this year.

    For what it’s worth though, Kristin also thinks Ugly Betty’s time slot might save it…

  • igor

    Me again. Ok this is for the staff. It will be interesting to see an article about which channel is better NBC or The CW. I know that the ratings on The CW are much worse but in my opinion they are not even closle fair taking in consideration that on NBC I only whach 30 rock and Heroes and on the CW I watch supernatural, Smallville, Vampire Diaries and Gossip Girl. I think it will be an interesting subject of discussion.

  • igor

    Me again. Ok this is for the staff. It will be interesting to see an article about which channel is better NBC or The CW. I know that the ratings on The CW are much worse but in my opinion they are not even closle fair taking in consideration that on NBC I only whach 30 rock and Heroes and on the CW I watch supernatural, Smallville, Vampire Diaries and Gossip Girl. I think it will be an interesting subject of discussion.

  • cress

    Community and Parks & Recreation will be renewed. If not Community, then DEFINITELY Parks. Parks is so MUCH BETTER this season. And even the dipshits at NBC can spot potential every now and then.

  • cress

    Community and Parks & Recreation will be renewed. If not Community, then DEFINITELY Parks. Parks is so MUCH BETTER this season. And even the dipshits at NBC can spot potential every now and then.

  • Tommy

    cress, Those “dipshits” also need better ratings.

    Yes Parks has improved 1000% over it’s first season, but it’s ratings are slightly below average. If I was NBC I wouldn’t want yet another show that takes 3 or 4 seasons to find it’s feet in the ratings. The Office started that way but found it’s footing much earlier, by it’s 2nd season (partly due to the success of Steve Carell’s movie The 40 Year Old Virgin,) and 30 Rock didn’t find it’s feet till the 3rd season, but it got more of a pass because it won tons of awards. Park’s doesn’t have any of those things to help it.

    Community is in the same boat, and it doesn’t help that it’s not produced in-house by NBC.

    I like both shows, but it would make sense for NBC to cancel them both and try something new. They need a new hit show because The Office is aging, and 30 Rock isn’t doing as well this year.

  • Tommy

    cress, Those “dipshits” also need better ratings.

    Yes Parks has improved 1000% over it’s first season, but it’s ratings are slightly below average. If I was NBC I wouldn’t want yet another show that takes 3 or 4 seasons to find it’s feet in the ratings. The Office started that way but found it’s footing much earlier, by it’s 2nd season (partly due to the success of Steve Carell’s movie The 40 Year Old Virgin,) and 30 Rock didn’t find it’s feet till the 3rd season, but it got more of a pass because it won tons of awards. Park’s doesn’t have any of those things to help it.

    Community is in the same boat, and it doesn’t help that it’s not produced in-house by NBC.

    I like both shows, but it would make sense for NBC to cancel them both and try something new. They need a new hit show because The Office is aging, and 30 Rock isn’t doing as well this year.

  • CTTS

    Kristin’s babbling is of little import.

  • Devdog

    @Dave

    Heroes won’t be going up against House, it will be going up against 24. House is in the 8 pm hour, while 24 is in the 9 pm hour. Either way, I think Heroes is toast. Heroes will be going against 24, 2.5 Men/TBBT, and The Bachelor. Heroes is likely to consistently finish 4th in that hour.

    Here’s hoping that Chuck can fare a little better in the earlier time slot, where the CBS comedies aren’t quite as strong.

  • CTTS

    Kristin’s babbling is of little import.

  • Devdog

    @Dave

    Heroes won’t be going up against House, it will be going up against 24. House is in the 8 pm hour, while 24 is in the 9 pm hour. Either way, I think Heroes is toast. Heroes will be going against 24, 2.5 Men/TBBT, and The Bachelor. Heroes is likely to consistently finish 4th in that hour.

    Here’s hoping that Chuck can fare a little better in the earlier time slot, where the CBS comedies aren’t quite as strong.

  • Nightstar

    The fact that all but one of the current NBC scripted shows are from its own production unit speaks quite clearly to me that they need to start outsourcing their shows, if only to allow them the opportunity to clean house on all the dead weight in those offices, while they get something that might actually interest viewers into the pipeline for the coming fall.

  • Nightstar

    The fact that all but one of the current NBC scripted shows are from its own production unit speaks quite clearly to me that they need to start outsourcing their shows, if only to allow them the opportunity to clean house on all the dead weight in those offices, while they get something that might actually interest viewers into the pipeline for the coming fall.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/mystic618 Tre618

    OMG why is heroes orange, i want it to be in green, … seems to be in danger, this is not cool, heroes is great, watch that show PEOPLE!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/mystic618 Tre618

    OMG why is heroes orange, i want it to be in green, … seems to be in danger, this is not cool, heroes is great, watch that show PEOPLE!

  • Brandon

    Two words: MILF Island.

    Seriously, I would watch.

  • Brandon

    Two words: MILF Island.

    Seriously, I would watch.

  • Tommy

    lol Brandon – They could cast Lisa Kudrow in that and put it on opposite Cougar Town. The overnight ratings post for that night could be titled “Which horny middle aged Friend get’s more viewers?”

  • Tommy

    lol Brandon – They could cast Lisa Kudrow in that and put it on opposite Cougar Town. The overnight ratings post for that night could be titled “Which horny middle aged Friend get’s more viewers?”

  • J.G.

    @Nightstar

    Most of CBS’s shows are also produced in-house, but they’re the exception rather than the rule. Both networks should do what ABC’s been doing for a while; half in-house shows, half outsource programming from Warner Bros., 20th, Sony, etc.

  • J.G.

    @Nightstar

    Most of CBS’s shows are also produced in-house, but they’re the exception rather than the rule. Both networks should do what ABC’s been doing for a while; half in-house shows, half outsource programming from Warner Bros., 20th, Sony, etc.

  • Matt

    They should keep the Thursday comedy block intact and launch new multicam comedies throughout the week. The Office is my favorite show of all time, and I really love the other three NBC comedies, but when you think of the network’s history, the multicam sitcoms have always been the most broadly popular. Wednesday would probably be the best night to start since that ABC block is looking pretty vulnerable at this point.

  • Matt

    They should keep the Thursday comedy block intact and launch new multicam comedies throughout the week. The Office is my favorite show of all time, and I really love the other three NBC comedies, but when you think of the network’s history, the multicam sitcoms have always been the most broadly popular. Wednesday would probably be the best night to start since that ABC block is looking pretty vulnerable at this point.

  • Theoacme

    Nightstar – you forget that NBC/U produces the third rated scripted program (from last week’s weekly ratings), which means that they aren’t doing that bad…

    …and the fact that House isn’t on NBC is a good thing, as they’re getting more money from it being on FOX than they ever would have gotten from it being on NBC (which emoticon do I use now?!?!)

  • Theoacme

    Nightstar – you forget that NBC/U produces the third rated scripted program (from last week’s weekly ratings), which means that they aren’t doing that bad…

    …and the fact that House isn’t on NBC is a good thing, as they’re getting more money from it being on FOX than they ever would have gotten from it being on NBC (which emoticon do I use now?!?!)

  • Tommy

    Matt, ABC’s comedy block is only Vulnerable at 8PM, 9PM is pretty solid.

  • Tommy

    Matt, ABC’s comedy block is only Vulnerable at 8PM, 9PM is pretty solid.

  • Cimmer

    Go bold NBC! You have nothing to lose, that makes you dangerous! How about bringing back Live Scripted TV eh? How about the anthology? Fill in your schedule by re showing some of the shows from your sibling cable networks like Burn Notice from USA? I know they don’t get the ratings NBC needs but at least it’s something to hold the spot while they’re in development. And since they’re NBCUniversal maybe, rather than trying to Americanize shows, they should just start showing us stuff from other countries. Hey, Merlin wasn’t that bad.

  • Cimmer

    Go bold NBC! You have nothing to lose, that makes you dangerous! How about bringing back Live Scripted TV eh? How about the anthology? Fill in your schedule by re showing some of the shows from your sibling cable networks like Burn Notice from USA? I know they don’t get the ratings NBC needs but at least it’s something to hold the spot while they’re in development. And since they’re NBCUniversal maybe, rather than trying to Americanize shows, they should just start showing us stuff from other countries. Hey, Merlin wasn’t that bad.

  • Aaron

    No! Parks and Recreation is one of the funniest shows on NBC. No offense, but its so much funnier then the office, probably because i love Amy Poehler…This really, really sucks. Bad!

  • Aaron

    No! Parks and Recreation is one of the funniest shows on NBC. No offense, but its so much funnier then the office, probably because i love Amy Poehler…This really, really sucks. Bad!

  • Matt

    Tommy, the 9 PM hour is definitely solid right now but I’m just comparing that competition to their other options. They’d probably get thumped by CBS Monday, they seem to like all Biggest Loser Tuesday, Thursday’s booked, and Friday’s a wasteland. The 8 PM hour for ABC is extremely weak, but even the 9 PM slot isn’t untouchable.

  • Matt

    Tommy, the 9 PM hour is definitely solid right now but I’m just comparing that competition to their other options. They’d probably get thumped by CBS Monday, they seem to like all Biggest Loser Tuesday, Thursday’s booked, and Friday’s a wasteland. The 8 PM hour for ABC is extremely weak, but even the 9 PM slot isn’t untouchable.

  • Dave

    They should hire Joss Whedon to make a show. Things couldn’t get any worse.

  • Dave

    They should hire Joss Whedon to make a show. Things couldn’t get any worse.

  • Dan

    Its possible but that trio are the only shows guaranteed to return 2010-2011. Heroes and L&O are veteran bubble series which could go either way, new comedies Community and Parks are doing subpar but its unlikely NBC axes both. The difference between Mercy and Trauma is 6 episodes and who knows about NBC’s new midseason shows.

  • Dan

    Its possible but that trio are the only shows guaranteed to return 2010-2011. Heroes and L&O are veteran bubble series which could go either way, new comedies Community and Parks are doing subpar but its unlikely NBC axes both. The difference between Mercy and Trauma is 6 episodes and who knows about NBC’s new midseason shows.

  • Michael Jacobsen

    Leno Killing ALL the 10pm Scripted Shows was a Disaster!

    With Leno’s horrifying ratings performance! Then Conan’s Plummeting Ratings!

    Can’t Leno and Conan get better Guests to really appeal to a younger audience for Gods Sakes? Yeah, William Shatner was Captain Kirk 40 Years ago. Get over it.

    Pee Wee Herman was on Leno and Conan? He’s like 57 and had a kid’s show 30 years ago before the Sex Charges. Michael McDonald is on next week on Conan. His last hit song was like 30 years ago.

    NBC, the Young Adult viewers want Fresh Talent. Skateboarding Stars! YouTube Personalities.

    Stop being a “Love Boat” of Elderly Has Beens catering to the Crypt Keeper Age Demographic. Lets hope Comcast brings some COMMON SENSE and a Youth Driven Mentality!

  • Michael Jacobsen

    Leno Killing ALL the 10pm Scripted Shows was a Disaster!

    With Leno’s horrifying ratings performance! Then Conan’s Plummeting Ratings!

    Can’t Leno and Conan get better Guests to really appeal to a younger audience for Gods Sakes? Yeah, William Shatner was Captain Kirk 40 Years ago. Get over it.

    Pee Wee Herman was on Leno and Conan? He’s like 57 and had a kid’s show 30 years ago before the Sex Charges. Michael McDonald is on next week on Conan. His last hit song was like 30 years ago.

    NBC, the Young Adult viewers want Fresh Talent. Skateboarding Stars! YouTube Personalities.

    Stop being a “Love Boat” of Elderly Has Beens catering to the Crypt Keeper Age Demographic. Lets hope Comcast brings some COMMON SENSE and a Youth Driven Mentality!

  • Michael

    Dave, Dollhouse actually got half the viewers of any NBC show, and did much worse in the demo than any NBC show.

  • Michael

    Dave, Dollhouse actually got half the viewers of any NBC show, and did much worse in the demo than any NBC show.

  • johnthemon

    to people saying that “NBC needs a solid hit” I’m sure that NBC knows that. They’re not holding back as far as new shows, and I think next year will be make or break time for them. They are trying to find the next big thing, but they just haven’t found it yet.

  • johnthemon

    to people saying that “NBC needs a solid hit” I’m sure that NBC knows that. They’re not holding back as far as new shows, and I think next year will be make or break time for them. They are trying to find the next big thing, but they just haven’t found it yet.

  • Hot Pocket

    PhillyBoy, that would be an excellent plan for NBC to follow. Whoever said Mercy isn’t coming is out of their minds. Mercy is an up and coming minor hit. Trauma isn’t really doing bad, it just doesn’t have its fanbase yet or in a good timeslot.

    Comcast could definitely save them but I really feel NBC should go through with that 24/7 plan and get away from the affiliates. That way they can run their shows all during the day and night giving them extra exposure.

  • Hot Pocket

    PhillyBoy, that would be an excellent plan for NBC to follow. Whoever said Mercy isn’t coming is out of their minds. Mercy is an up and coming minor hit. Trauma isn’t really doing bad, it just doesn’t have its fanbase yet or in a good timeslot.

    Comcast could definitely save them but I really feel NBC should go through with that 24/7 plan and get away from the affiliates. That way they can run their shows all during the day and night giving them extra exposure.

  • Dee

    The idea of a complete overthrow of NBC’s schedule is a tempting thought for me. It would mean more new shows and more chances at hitting on that one program – like Cosby – that turns it all around. But they would need to be careful, as they have gone that route before and ended up with the likes of Pink Lady and Jeff, and Supertrain. They would be better off keeping the best third of what they have now, comb the other networks’ castoffs for shows that might be viable for another year or two, and carefully place the best of the new crop they are developing. Of course, it would also be good if they could pony up however many billions it would take to convince Seinfeld to fill Leno’s slot a couple nights a week.

  • Dee

    The idea of a complete overthrow of NBC’s schedule is a tempting thought for me. It would mean more new shows and more chances at hitting on that one program – like Cosby – that turns it all around. But they would need to be careful, as they have gone that route before and ended up with the likes of Pink Lady and Jeff, and Supertrain. They would be better off keeping the best third of what they have now, comb the other networks’ castoffs for shows that might be viable for another year or two, and carefully place the best of the new crop they are developing. Of course, it would also be good if they could pony up however many billions it would take to convince Seinfeld to fill Leno’s slot a couple nights a week.

  • Hot Pocket

    NBC had two hits in Diff’rent Strokes and The Facts of Life back in their previous down time in the late 70s/early 80s then b/c they had that long-term plan by making all new shows they hit one in Cosby like Dee said. NBC might have to overthrow and only keep 5 of their current shows. They also have to take back that 10pm hour going forward, Jay could go back to late night or air once or twice a week.

  • Hot Pocket

    NBC had two hits in Diff’rent Strokes and The Facts of Life back in their previous down time in the late 70s/early 80s then b/c they had that long-term plan by making all new shows they hit one in Cosby like Dee said. NBC might have to overthrow and only keep 5 of their current shows. They also have to take back that 10pm hour going forward, Jay could go back to late night or air once or twice a week.

  • aznfratboy

    HOly cow, NBC is screwed! They really need something like THe Cosby show to revive them…

    THey really need a structured line-up, and desperately need to revive Thursday night, and get two QUALITY comedies for the 8pm hour, doesn’t have to be as good as Cosby or Friends or Seinfeld, just something that can at least hold their own and NOT be nearly pummelled by something from CW. THey really need to cancel Leno, give him one night a week at most…

  • aznfratboy

    HOly cow, NBC is screwed! They really need something like THe Cosby show to revive them…

    THey really need a structured line-up, and desperately need to revive Thursday night, and get two QUALITY comedies for the 8pm hour, doesn’t have to be as good as Cosby or Friends or Seinfeld, just something that can at least hold their own and NOT be nearly pummelled by something from CW. THey really need to cancel Leno, give him one night a week at most…

  • Corey

    Would the Olympics factor into NBC’s average when they start in February or does it not since it’s sports?

    That is going to seriously lower these values even more if it does. I assume it won’t though.

  • Corey

    Would the Olympics factor into NBC’s average when they start in February or does it not since it’s sports?

    That is going to seriously lower these values even more if it does. I assume it won’t though.

  • Vetinari

    There is no trove of hit shows ready to replae Leno, agreed. But if ratings got pathetic enough, wouldn’t they do better stripping Dateline during that time? Imagine if tonight, instead of Leno interviewing has-been star Travolta, instead it was Ann Curry hosting an hour about Tiger Woods. Which would get higher ratings? The answer is as obvious as it is depressing. (*gags at the memory of many-nights a week Dateline in the 1990s*)

    But the ratings would have to really go down the toilet for them to resort to that, I think. Which is not impossible but in the short term not likely.

    I have to laugh when people say there’s no chance *at all* of Leno being removed because of his contract. If he started averaging 0.1 a night would they pull him and pay him off? You know it. :) So now that we’ve established that there’s a threshold, we just have to figure out where that trigger is. Even if it’s unlikely to get to that stage, it does exist.

  • Vetinari

    There is no trove of hit shows ready to replae Leno, agreed. But if ratings got pathetic enough, wouldn’t they do better stripping Dateline during that time? Imagine if tonight, instead of Leno interviewing has-been star Travolta, instead it was Ann Curry hosting an hour about Tiger Woods. Which would get higher ratings? The answer is as obvious as it is depressing. (*gags at the memory of many-nights a week Dateline in the 1990s*)

    But the ratings would have to really go down the toilet for them to resort to that, I think. Which is not impossible but in the short term not likely.

    I have to laugh when people say there’s no chance *at all* of Leno being removed because of his contract. If he started averaging 0.1 a night would they pull him and pay him off? You know it. :) So now that we’ve established that there’s a threshold, we just have to figure out where that trigger is. Even if it’s unlikely to get to that stage, it does exist.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Corey, Nielsen will include the Olympics in NBC season averages, but I will remove the effects of those two weeks entirely from my calculations. They are completely isolated weeks that will air no other primetime programming, their contribution to NBC’s other programming average is irrelevant for my purposes.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Corey, Nielsen will include the Olympics in NBC season averages, but I will remove the effects of those two weeks entirely from my calculations. They are completely isolated weeks that will air no other primetime programming, their contribution to NBC’s other programming average is irrelevant for my purposes.

  • Traumafan

    SAVE TRAUMA. It will not be cancelled.

    Leave me alone Tommy..Cant a girl dream? LOL

  • Traumafan

    SAVE TRAUMA. It will not be cancelled.

    Leave me alone Tommy..Cant a girl dream? LOL

  • tess

    Remember the good old days of NBC. St. Elsewhere, Hill Street Blues, LA Law, Homicide, ER, Law And Order (when it was good) SVU (when it was good) Law And Order CI (before they threw it away away)

    Mad About You, The Cosby Show, Friends, Frasier.

    Look at NBC now…Pathetic

  • tess

    Remember the good old days of NBC. St. Elsewhere, Hill Street Blues, LA Law, Homicide, ER, Law And Order (when it was good) SVU (when it was good) Law And Order CI (before they threw it away away)

    Mad About You, The Cosby Show, Friends, Frasier.

    Look at NBC now…Pathetic

  • Traumafan

    Yup I remember those days. I miss those shows.

  • Traumafan

    Yup I remember those days. I miss those shows.

  • Tommy

    Yes Traumafan you can dream and I will leave you alone :-D

  • Tommy

    Yes Traumafan you can dream and I will leave you alone :-D

  • paco

    It’s almost like NBC has to merge with CW just to get 4 or 5 hours of 8 PM scripted programming (out of 6 hours on CW).

    Vampire Diaries (P)
    Supernatural (S), (P)
    One Tree Hill (P)
    Gossip Girl (P)
    Smallville (F), (P)
    90210 (P)

  • paco

    It’s almost like NBC has to merge with CW just to get 4 or 5 hours of 8 PM scripted programming (out of 6 hours on CW).

    Vampire Diaries (P)
    Supernatural (S), (P)
    One Tree Hill (P)
    Gossip Girl (P)
    Smallville (F), (P)
    90210 (P)

  • vsaint

    I guess it’s virtually guaranteed JJ Abrams Spy Show, gets picked up.
    Didn’t ABC this past year have alot more shows in development?
    They also had tons of timeslots available.
    They need to replace current managament and take risks on some new shows.

  • vsaint

    I guess it’s virtually guaranteed JJ Abrams Spy Show, gets picked up.
    Didn’t ABC this past year have alot more shows in development?
    They also had tons of timeslots available.
    They need to replace current managament and take risks on some new shows.

  • Sam

    Community needs to come back….best comedy on TV.

  • Sam

    Community needs to come back….best comedy on TV.

  • R.G

    Community needs to survive. I know it can. The same audience of The Office are watching that.

  • R.G

    Community needs to survive. I know it can. The same audience of The Office are watching that.

  • Tar

    lol i loved the backdoor MILF island pilot on 30 Rock.. they should definately pick it up

  • Tar

    lol i loved the backdoor MILF island pilot on 30 Rock.. they should definately pick it up

  • Sarah

    I hope the original Law & Order is cancelled. It has gone on FAR too long, simply because Dick Wolf wants to have the longest running drama show in tv history. Long live Gunsmoke.

  • Sarah

    I hope the original Law & Order is cancelled. It has gone on FAR too long, simply because Dick Wolf wants to have the longest running drama show in tv history. Long live Gunsmoke.

  • Doug

    NBC’s problems aren’t new, it’s just that they’ve reached the criminal point at this time. NBC’s decline started when Seinfeld went off the air, and got substantially worse when Friends left.

  • Doug

    NBC’s problems aren’t new, it’s just that they’ve reached the criminal point at this time. NBC’s decline started when Seinfeld went off the air, and got substantially worse when Friends left.

  • http://www.nanaki.co.uk/ Nanaki

    I don’t think Heroes is going anywhere just yet. The ratings are finally stabilising as every episode this season has had between 5-6 Million viewers and an average 18-49 Rating of about 2.5 with 2.2 being the lowest and 2.8 being the highest.

    I’m not saying that these ratings are good considering of how much they’ve dropped over the 4 seasons but we haven’t seen any major drops this year compared to previous years.

  • http://www.nanaki.co.uk Nanaki

    I don’t think Heroes is going anywhere just yet. The ratings are finally stabilising as every episode this season has had between 5-6 Million viewers and an average 18-49 Rating of about 2.5 with 2.2 being the lowest and 2.8 being the highest.

    I’m not saying that these ratings are good considering of how much they’ve dropped over the 4 seasons but we haven’t seen any major drops this year compared to previous years.

  • Really Tired

    With NBCU still a profit making company, don’t epect a major change at NBC – Broadcast. The cable channels, USA primarily, SyFy, Bravo, Weather all doing well, I expect Comcast to keep the focus on the cable channels, and let NBC Broadcast work it’s funk out.

    Thursdays 8-10 is the best comedy lineup on tv. 30 Rock wil one day sit besides the great sitcoms on tv. Just lower viership, until it’s discovered on syndication. (Just like The Odd Couple in the 70′s).

  • Really Tired

    With NBCU still a profit making company, don’t epect a major change at NBC – Broadcast. The cable channels, USA primarily, SyFy, Bravo, Weather all doing well, I expect Comcast to keep the focus on the cable channels, and let NBC Broadcast work it’s funk out.

    Thursdays 8-10 is the best comedy lineup on tv. 30 Rock wil one day sit besides the great sitcoms on tv. Just lower viership, until it’s discovered on syndication. (Just like The Odd Couple in the 70′s).

  • tw

    NBC will take chuck and jj abrahams on monday. This creates a spy monday with the lighter funnier chuck as lead in to the more serious (jj abrahams) spy drama.

    One of the commedys will go, maybe even both (parks and community) and nbc will try something new, in the hope of another hit.
    L&O will stay, because its good network syndication money (heroes is to far from the magical 100) and well, friday is friday.

    Trauma and mercy will both be terminated, and replaced by new shows. They are weak and young.

    Jay will stay where he is cause he works.

  • tw

    NBC will take chuck and jj abrahams on monday. This creates a spy monday with the lighter funnier chuck as lead in to the more serious (jj abrahams) spy drama.

    One of the commedys will go, maybe even both (parks and community) and nbc will try something new, in the hope of another hit.
    L&O will stay, because its good network syndication money (heroes is to far from the magical 100) and well, friday is friday.

    Trauma and mercy will both be terminated, and replaced by new shows. They are weak and young.

    Jay will stay where he is cause he works.

  • http://www.traumatics.tumblr.com/ DRTigerlilly

    I might be biased since i do like the show, but i do think Hot Pocket is right, it’s not that Trauma is a bad show, and alot of the naysayers haven’t even watched it.

    But it’s had stiff competition, going up against established shows like DWTS & Two and a half men.

    I’ll be the first to admit i wasn’t wowed by the previews, and after the first episode i still was unimpressed, i’m not sure why i continued to watch, but i think its gotten better every week, and they have good actors and good character development, and that has gotten better as they’ve cut down on the special effects and focused on the characters.

    I’ve tried watching Mercy and i don’t want to hate on anybody else’s show, but i don’t feel that way about Mercy.

    Hopefully in 2010 when it comes back for it’s final 6 episodes, it will get placed on a better night, and can bring up the numbers. I really believe too it needs to find it’s fanbase. I hope that i’m right.

    It’s been a long time since i’ve been particularly inspired to watch comedies…and i just don’t find NBC’s current comedy line up appealing. No Leno, no Fallon, no Office, Earl, Parks & Recreation, Community or SNL. I do like Big Bang Theory on CBS, but can’t really say comedy’s have moved me one way or another in a while. I’m actually surprised that The Good Wife is on the bubble i think it’s another good new show. But from watching my younger sister i realize that the MTV generation, which the networks are interested in, have been raised on reality TV, which i at 29 Abhor. *sigh*

  • Traumagrl

    I might be biased since i do like the show, but i do think Hot Pocket is right, it’s not that Trauma is a bad show, and alot of the naysayers haven’t even watched it.

    But it’s had stiff competition, going up against established shows like DWTS & Two and a half men.

    I’ll be the first to admit i wasn’t wowed by the previews, and after the first episode i still was unimpressed, i’m not sure why i continued to watch, but i think its gotten better every week, and they have good actors and good character development, and that has gotten better as they’ve cut down on the special effects and focused on the characters.

    I’ve tried watching Mercy and i don’t want to hate on anybody else’s show, but i don’t feel that way about Mercy.

    Hopefully in 2010 when it comes back for it’s final 6 episodes, it will get placed on a better night, and can bring up the numbers. I really believe too it needs to find it’s fanbase. I hope that i’m right.

    It’s been a long time since i’ve been particularly inspired to watch comedies…and i just don’t find NBC’s current comedy line up appealing. No Leno, no Fallon, no Office, Earl, Parks & Recreation, Community or SNL. I do like Big Bang Theory on CBS, but can’t really say comedy’s have moved me one way or another in a while. I’m actually surprised that The Good Wife is on the bubble i think it’s another good new show. But from watching my younger sister i realize that the MTV generation, which the networks are interested in, have been raised on reality TV, which i at 29 Abhor. *sigh*

  • 5506/Orange5506

    I think i know how it might have started (with the ratings and all) on NBC. It first started back in 2004 when 2 veteran comedies (Friends, and Frasier) ended their run of the series. Once both were gone NBC tried to fill in their slots with comedies (don’t know the names) but the 2 soon went into cancellation, and so on and on and on… now 2009, there are only 3 good shows left for renewal. Unless it changes LATER!!! :mad:

    It’s like a black hole that was small in 2004, now in 2009 it’s HUGE. :shock:

    I’m just saying. :grin:

  • 5506/Orange5506

    I think i know how it might have started (with the ratings and all) on NBC. It first started back in 2004 when 2 veteran comedies (Friends, and Frasier) ended their run of the series. Once both were gone NBC tried to fill in their slots with comedies (don’t know the names) but the 2 soon went into cancellation, and so on and on and on… now 2009, there are only 3 good shows left for renewal. Unless it changes LATER!!! :mad:

    It’s like a black hole that was small in 2004, now in 2009 it’s HUGE. :shock:

    I’m just saying. :grin:

  • Dan

    Traumagrl – With limited slots, if anything Trauma is liekly to return, fridays. Every other slot looks pretty filled for the time being, and I dont think NBC would try to save Trauma on another night.

  • Dan

    Traumagrl – With limited slots, if anything Trauma is liekly to return, fridays. Every other slot looks pretty filled for the time being, and I dont think NBC would try to save Trauma on another night.

  • Zajuc8

    Not a chance Mercy will be canceled. This is an up show. They’ve got better things to cancel than Mercy. Trauma will likely return too. If Trauma was actually not going to return then it would’ve been gotten canceled.

  • Zajuc8

    Not a chance Mercy will be canceled. This is an up show. They’ve got better things to cancel than Mercy. Trauma will likely return too. If Trauma was actually not going to return then it would’ve been gotten canceled.

  • Tommy

    Dan, Trauma may timeshare the 9PM slot on Mondays when Heroes wraps up. Heroes should be finished before the Olympics. Day One will only be 4 hours and may end up being something like a 2 part weekend movie that airs on Saturdays.

  • Tommy

    Dan, Trauma may timeshare the 9PM slot on Mondays when Heroes wraps up. Heroes should be finished before the Olympics. Day One will only be 4 hours and may end up being something like a 2 part weekend movie that airs on Saturdays.

  • Burg

    NBC’s comedy block have pretty big followings online (as they should, NBC’s Thursday is, quality-wise, one of the best line-ups they’ve ever had) so I think they will stick around as well as SVU.

    Everything else, except for maybe Biggest Loser and Sunday Night Football of course, is a goner though. I expect a big ole reset next season.

  • Burg

    NBC’s comedy block have pretty big followings online (as they should, NBC’s Thursday is, quality-wise, one of the best line-ups they’ve ever had) so I think they will stick around as well as SVU.

    Everything else, except for maybe Biggest Loser and Sunday Night Football of course, is a goner though. I expect a big ole reset next season.

  • Anonymous

    NBC needs to clean house! badly. They need to dump Leno at 10 and get some really good shows for next season. NBC has so many issues that everytime I think about NBC my head hurts.

    NBC should keep community. I haven’t watched it because of the time slot but I’ve seen the pilot and it is a good show. They should keep Mercy just because it isn’t doing TERRIBLE. Make Heroes come back mid-season with NO breaks. Make Chuck return in the fall with a great time slot. If NBC were to get rid of Leno, I think they should renew Trauma for maybe a short second season and see what it does in ER’s old timeslot Thursdays at 10.

    I’m interested to see how Chuck does when it returns.

    To sum it all up NBC needs help BADLY.

  • Tony

    NBC needs to clean house! badly. They need to dump Leno at 10 and get some really good shows for next season. NBC has so many issues that everytime I think about NBC my head hurts.

    NBC should keep community. I haven’t watched it because of the time slot but I’ve seen the pilot and it is a good show. They should keep Mercy just because it isn’t doing TERRIBLE. Make Heroes come back mid-season with NO breaks. Make Chuck return in the fall with a great time slot. If NBC were to get rid of Leno, I think they should renew Trauma for maybe a short second season and see what it does in ER’s old timeslot Thursdays at 10.

    I’m interested to see how Chuck does when it returns.

    To sum it all up NBC needs help BADLY.

  • Anonymous

    Oh and I think NBC needs to try and put together a Friends reunion or something huge that will be a television event. They could advertise for their new shows and stuff and a reunion like Friends or Fraiser or something would GUARANTEE HUGEEE ratings.

    although that would most likely never happen!, but I do dream of a Friends reunion one day. lol

  • Tony

    Oh and I think NBC needs to try and put together a Friends reunion or something huge that will be a television event. They could advertise for their new shows and stuff and a reunion like Friends or Fraiser or something would GUARANTEE HUGEEE ratings.

    although that would most likely never happen!, but I do dream of a Friends reunion one day. lol

  • Dan

    Tommy – I doubt NBC will return Trauma to 9pm where its doing horribly. I agree with you about Day One, but remember NBC still has Parenthood and Persons Unknown. Either of which can air by March. My guess is NBC airs Persons Unknown after Chuck on mondays, possibly airs Parenthood sundays or wednesdays as a timeshare with Mercy, and burns off Trauma on fridays. Begnning March the schedule could turn out like this.

    Sundays
    7:00 Dateline NBC
    8:00 Parenthood
    9:00 The Celebrity Apprentice

    Mondays
    8:00 Chuck
    9:00 Persons Unknown

    Tuesdays
    8:00 The Biggest Loser
    9:30 100 Questions

    Wednesdays
    8:00 Mercy
    9:00 L&O SVU

    Thursdays
    8:00 Community
    8:30 Parks and Recreation
    9:00 The Office
    9:30 30 Rock

    Fridays
    8:00 The Marriage Ref
    9:00 Trauma

    NBC currently has Marriage Ref on Sundays but its likely that they use that for 8:00 fridays after L&O finishes up.

  • Dan

    Tommy – I doubt NBC will return Trauma to 9pm where its doing horribly. I agree with you about Day One, but remember NBC still has Parenthood and Persons Unknown. Either of which can air by March. My guess is NBC airs Persons Unknown after Chuck on mondays, possibly airs Parenthood sundays or wednesdays as a timeshare with Mercy, and burns off Trauma on fridays. Begnning March the schedule could turn out like this.

    Sundays
    7:00 Dateline NBC
    8:00 Parenthood
    9:00 The Celebrity Apprentice

    Mondays
    8:00 Chuck
    9:00 Persons Unknown

    Tuesdays
    8:00 The Biggest Loser
    9:30 100 Questions

    Wednesdays
    8:00 Mercy
    9:00 L&O SVU

    Thursdays
    8:00 Community
    8:30 Parks and Recreation
    9:00 The Office
    9:30 30 Rock

    Fridays
    8:00 The Marriage Ref
    9:00 Trauma

    NBC currently has Marriage Ref on Sundays but its likely that they use that for 8:00 fridays after L&O finishes up.

  • http://dryedmangoez.com/ DryedMangoez

    I’m hearing good news about Heroes ending this season! Yay!

  • http://dryedmangoez.com DryedMangoez

    I’m hearing good news about Heroes ending this season! Yay!

  • Mae

    I have a feeling this could be Heroes’ last season and even if P&R has lower ratings, they’d still keep it for next fall. But I’m thinking with an NBC mindset, I dont know how Comcast thinks.

  • Mae

    I have a feeling this could be Heroes’ last season and even if P&R has lower ratings, they’d still keep it for next fall. But I’m thinking with an NBC mindset, I dont know how Comcast thinks.

  • Mumbo

    While I don’t think it will make a huge difference, I think Heroes’ eventual move to 9:00 on Mondays will give it the extra tick or two it needs to survive. Really, looking at NBC’s lineup, that extra tick is all it needs.

    Chuck fans should rejoice, the bar is so low for that show’s performance that its chances for a Season 4 have gotten a lot better.

    Community fans (myself included) may also be able to take a breath with the ratings carnage, since it and Parks are the most likely to keep of the weaker performers.

  • Mumbo

    While I don’t think it will make a huge difference, I think Heroes’ eventual move to 9:00 on Mondays will give it the extra tick or two it needs to survive. Really, looking at NBC’s lineup, that extra tick is all it needs.

    Chuck fans should rejoice, the bar is so low for that show’s performance that its chances for a Season 4 have gotten a lot better.

    Community fans (myself included) may also be able to take a breath with the ratings carnage, since it and Parks are the most likely to keep of the weaker performers.

  • linda

    i want chuck, all law & orders, community, the office and 30 rock to stay. also Conan and jimmy fallon and the biggest loser and america’s got talent and the apprentice. those are the only shows i even watch on any of the 5 networks beside gossip girl. and sometimes house and american idol. keep the sunday football also. used to watch heroes but that has gone downhill since the first season. i also watch he Olympics on nbc. they can get reid of the rest for all i care.

  • linda

    i want chuck, all law & orders, community, the office and 30 rock to stay. also Conan and jimmy fallon and the biggest loser and america’s got talent and the apprentice. those are the only shows i even watch on any of the 5 networks beside gossip girl. and sometimes house and american idol. keep the sunday football also. used to watch heroes but that has gone downhill since the first season. i also watch he Olympics on nbc. they can get reid of the rest for all i care.

  • http://www.behindthescreensblog.com/ Parenthood

    NBC needs to bring America’s Got Talent into the fall as use that as a leadin. Chuck is going to much better this season. Why? Better promotion during Football and the Olympics. Sure, NBC promoted Chuck during the Super Bowl, but the ads and the 3D episode were so badly done that it may have turned people off. Also, they ‘re emphasizing Yvonne Strahovski in her bikini outfit. The difference is that NBC seems to be doing much more of a viral marketing campaign for Chuck, advertising it during almost every commercial break during Football. The ads for Chuck are better and there are more of them. I think NBC’s strategy will work for Chuck.

  • http://www.behindthescreensblog.com Parenthood

    NBC needs to bring America’s Got Talent into the fall as use that as a leadin. Chuck is going to much better this season. Why? Better promotion during Football and the Olympics. Sure, NBC promoted Chuck during the Super Bowl, but the ads and the 3D episode were so badly done that it may have turned people off. Also, they ‘re emphasizing Yvonne Strahovski in her bikini outfit. The difference is that NBC seems to be doing much more of a viral marketing campaign for Chuck, advertising it during almost every commercial break during Football. The ads for Chuck are better and there are more of them. I think NBC’s strategy will work for Chuck.

  • aznfratboy

    Mercy might just stay, it’s not like NBC has a vault full of potential shows to make up the hours….

    The decline started when NBC got competition on Sunday in the form os Survivor and CSI, because the two years or so between Seinfeld finale and Thursday night Survivor, NBC still had semi-decent comedies on Thursday, like Sudden;y SUsan, Veronica’s Clost, Just Shoot Me etc…. which all built off their Friends lead-in and at least were still competitive.

    What NBC needs is to dominate one night, or at least be fairly competitive, and then promote other nights from that existing night, similiar to what they did when they rules thursday, way back when. Perhaps they could use football night and promote their shows heavily from there, and see whether they can at least be competitve outside of football, Office and Biggest Loser…

  • aznfratboy

    Mercy might just stay, it’s not like NBC has a vault full of potential shows to make up the hours….

    The decline started when NBC got competition on Sunday in the form os Survivor and CSI, because the two years or so between Seinfeld finale and Thursday night Survivor, NBC still had semi-decent comedies on Thursday, like Sudden;y SUsan, Veronica’s Clost, Just Shoot Me etc…. which all built off their Friends lead-in and at least were still competitive.

    What NBC needs is to dominate one night, or at least be fairly competitive, and then promote other nights from that existing night, similiar to what they did when they rules thursday, way back when. Perhaps they could use football night and promote their shows heavily from there, and see whether they can at least be competitve outside of football, Office and Biggest Loser…

  • http://essentialdatingtips.blogspot.com/ 728huey

    Everyone seems to have some type of magic formula to bring NBC back from the depths of TV broadcast hell, yet most of them involve either rearranging existing programs or jettisoning nearly the entire prime time schedule without having anything viable to replace it.

    I think that the original idea of promoting Jay Leno as a comedy block was a decent idea in itself; however, it shouldn’t have happened five nights a week at 10:00 pm. Actually, ABC is doing the smart thing in trying to create a new night of comedy on Wednesdays. It’s really the first time in several years that any of the broadcast networks is trying to expand their comedy offerings. (By that, I mean actually trying to create a new comedy block of programming. CBS has mostly relegated and tried to reinforce its Monday night comedy block, while NBC has tried to reinforce its Thursday night comedy block, and FOX has focused on its Sunday animation block.)

    What I don’t understand is why the networks aren’t trying to create this generation’s Cosby Show or Home Improvement. Part of the reason those comedies were so huge was because they appealed to families. While Seinfeld, Frasier, Friends, and Everybody Loves Raymond became huge hits, the big four networks spent so much time trying to clone those shows that they eventually failed. Yes, The Big Bang Theory, The Office, and 30 Rock are great comedies, but they have too much of an adult focus, and because of that, they have a smaller following than the classic family sitcoms.

    I think the time is long overdue for a hit family sitcom on the big four networks. One the biggest mistakes on TV was CBS not picking up Everybody Hates Chris for its own network instead of relegating it to the CW. It was a decent (and actually funny) family sitcom that too few people saw.

  • http://essentialdatingtips.blogspot.com 728huey

    Everyone seems to have some type of magic formula to bring NBC back from the depths of TV broadcast hell, yet most of them involve either rearranging existing programs or jettisoning nearly the entire prime time schedule without having anything viable to replace it.

    I think that the original idea of promoting Jay Leno as a comedy block was a decent idea in itself; however, it shouldn’t have happened five nights a week at 10:00 pm. Actually, ABC is doing the smart thing in trying to create a new night of comedy on Wednesdays. It’s really the first time in several years that any of the broadcast networks is trying to expand their comedy offerings. (By that, I mean actually trying to create a new comedy block of programming. CBS has mostly relegated and tried to reinforce its Monday night comedy block, while NBC has tried to reinforce its Thursday night comedy block, and FOX has focused on its Sunday animation block.)

    What I don’t understand is why the networks aren’t trying to create this generation’s Cosby Show or Home Improvement. Part of the reason those comedies were so huge was because they appealed to families. While Seinfeld, Frasier, Friends, and Everybody Loves Raymond became huge hits, the big four networks spent so much time trying to clone those shows that they eventually failed. Yes, The Big Bang Theory, The Office, and 30 Rock are great comedies, but they have too much of an adult focus, and because of that, they have a smaller following than the classic family sitcoms.

    I think the time is long overdue for a hit family sitcom on the big four networks. One the biggest mistakes on TV was CBS not picking up Everybody Hates Chris for its own network instead of relegating it to the CW. It was a decent (and actually funny) family sitcom that too few people saw.

  • Dan

    Aznfratboy – Mercy will likely get pummeled by Idol, however the series could be expendable depending on how midseason series like Chuck, Parenthood and Persons Unknown perform.

    Id say Trauma is the only series on the schedule that I can say with 100% likelyness wont return 2010-2011. Heres my guess for other series.

    Definitely Returning
    L&O SVU
    The Office
    30 Rock
    Biggest Loser
    The Jay Leno Show
    Celebrity Apprentice*

    *CA Hasnt premiered yet, however I still think NBC can continue using it for midseason sundays

    50/50 (Going down from most liekly to least likely)
    Community
    Parks & Recreation
    Law & Order
    Heroes
    Mercy
    Trauma

    The 50/50 list can be split into 3 groups. The first group is the newer comedies, which NBC is more likely to keep. The second group is the veteran dramas which NBC can either let go or renew depending on their preference. The third group is the freshman dramas which look unlikely to continue past this season.

  • Dan

    Aznfratboy – Mercy will likely get pummeled by Idol, however the series could be expendable depending on how midseason series like Chuck, Parenthood and Persons Unknown perform.

    Id say Trauma is the only series on the schedule that I can say with 100% likelyness wont return 2010-2011. Heres my guess for other series.

    Definitely Returning
    L&O SVU
    The Office
    30 Rock
    Biggest Loser
    The Jay Leno Show
    Celebrity Apprentice*

    *CA Hasnt premiered yet, however I still think NBC can continue using it for midseason sundays

    50/50 (Going down from most liekly to least likely)
    Community
    Parks & Recreation
    Law & Order
    Heroes
    Mercy
    Trauma

    The 50/50 list can be split into 3 groups. The first group is the newer comedies, which NBC is more likely to keep. The second group is the veteran dramas which NBC can either let go or renew depending on their preference. The third group is the freshman dramas which look unlikely to continue past this season.

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