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TV Ratings: CBS Repeats Win Slow Tuesday; Scrubs, Ted Ratings Keep Falling

Posted on 23 December 2009 by Bill Gorman

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Scoreboard CBS NBC Uni ABC FOX CW
Adults 18-49: Rating/Share 2.4/7 1.5/4 1.2/4 1.2/3 1.1/3 0.4/1
Adults 18-34: Rating/Share 1.3/4 1.2/4 1.3/4 1.1/4 1.0/3 0.4/1
Total Viewers (million) 12.236 4.589 3.444 4.057 4.081 0.856


On a slow Tuesday, it was the relatively strong CBS repeats that carried the night. Scrubs and Better Off Ted, the only new scripted shows on broadcast TV, were almost unwatched.

Scrubs‘ 1.3 adults 18-49 rating was down 28% from last week to its lowest original rating ever. Better Off Ted’s 1.0 rating was down 23% from last week, also its lowest original non-summer airing ever.

The Jay Leno Show’s 1.5 rating was down 17% from last week to its lowest Tuesday rating ever. Last night was probably its best chance yet to beat a CBS repeat of The Good Wife, but no dice. Maybe next week Jay!

In Late-Night Local People Meters Tuesday night:

  • Conan O’Brien (1.0 rating /4 share in 18-49 in local people meters) tied CBS’s Late Show (1.0 rating /4 share) in Nielsen’s 24 local markets with People Meters.
  • At 12:35 a.m., Jimmy Fallon (0.5/3 in 18-49 in local people meters) trailed CBS’s original Late Late Show (0.6/3).
Time Net Show 18-49 Rating 18-49 Share Viewers Live+SD (million)
8:00 CBS NCIS (repeat) 2.8 9 14.882
ABC America’s Funniest Home Videos (repeat) 1.4 4 5.526
NBC The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? (repeat) 1.3 4 4.373
FOX Carrie Underwood: Holiday Special (repeat) 1.1 4 3.964
CW 90210 (repeat) 0.5 2 1.145
8:30 CBS NCIS (repeat) 3.0 9 15.875
ABC America’s Funniest Home Videos (repeat) 1.5 5 5.806
NBC The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? (repeat) 1.4 4 3.959
FOX Carrie Underwood: Holiday Special (repeat) 1.1 3 3.654
CW 90210 (repeat) 0.4 1 0.977
9:00 CBS NCIS:Los Angeles (repeat) 2.5 7 12.520
NBC The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? (repeat) 1.6 5 4.449
ABC Scrubs 1.3 4 3.548
FOX Carrie Underwood: Holiday Special (repeat) 1.2 3 4.343
CW Melrose Place (repeat) 0.3 1 0.710
9:30 CBS NCIS:Los Angeles (repeat) 2.4 7 12.139
NBC The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? (repeat) 1.6 5 4.408
FOX Carrie Underwood: Holiday Special (repeat) 1.2 3 4.364
ABC Better Off Ted 1.0 3 2.876
CW Melrose Place (repeat) 0.3 1 0.594
10:00 CBS The Good Wife (repeat) 1.7 5 9.271
NBC The Jay Leno Show 1.4 4 5.119
ABC Christimas At The White House: Oprah Special (repeat) 0.9 3 3.241
10:30 CBS The Good Wife (repeat) 1.7 5 8.727
NBC The Jay Leno Show 1.5 5 5.227
ABC Christimas At The White House: Oprah Special (repeat) 0.9 3 3.348

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You can see TV ratings from other recent Overnight ratings reports here.

Definitions:

*Fast Affiliate Ratings: These first national ratings, including demographics, are available at approximately 11 AM (ET) the day after telecast, and are released to subscribing customers daily. These data, from the National People Meter sample, are strictly time-period information, based on the normal broadcast network feed, and include all programming on the affiliated stations, sometimes including network programming, sometimes not. The figures may include stations that did not air the entire network feed, as well as local news breaks or cutaways for local coverage or other programming. Fast Affiliate ratings are not as useful for live programs and are likely to differ significantly from the final results, because the data reflect normal broadcast feed patterns. For example, with a World Series game, Fast Affiliate Ratings would include whatever aired from 8-11PM on affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone, following the live football game, but not game coverage that begins at 5PM PT. The same would be true of Presidential debates as well as live award shows and breaking news reports.

Rating: Estimated percentage of the universe of TV households (or other specified group) tuned to a program in the average minute. Ratings are expressed as a percent.

Share (of Audience): The percent of households (or persons) using television who are tuned to a specific program, station or network in a specific area at a specific time. (See also, Rating, which represents tuning or viewing as a percent of the entire population being measured.)

Time Shifted ViewingProgram ratings for national sources are produced in three streams of data – Live, Live+Same Day (Live+SD) and Live+7 Day. Time shifted figures account for incremental viewing that takes place with DVRs which are currently in approximately 24.4% of all U.S. TV households. Live+Same Day (Live+SD) include viewing during the same broadcast day as the original telecast, with a cut-off of 3:00AM local time when meters transmit daily viewing to Nielsen for processing. Live+7 Day ratings include incremental viewing that takes place during the 7 days following a telecast.

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  • Anonymous

    Wow.
    When you DROP from an “America’s Funniest Home Video” lead-in…you really know you’re in trouble.

  • Anonymous

    Wow.
    When you DROP from an “America’s Funniest Home Video” lead-in…you really know you’re in trouble.

  • Anonymous

    Wow.
    When you DROP from an “America’s Funniest Home Video” lead-in…you really know you’re in trouble.

  • ron

    The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? was a repeat

  • ron

    The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? was a repeat

  • ron

    The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? was a repeat

  • ron

    The Biggest Loser: Where Are They Now? was a repeat

  • Ali

    ABC, it’s time to SCRUB off, clearly you’re BETTER OFF!

  • Ali

    ABC, it’s time to SCRUB off, clearly you’re BETTER OFF!

  • Ali

    ABC, it’s time to SCRUB off, clearly you’re BETTER OFF!

  • DuMont

    I had a fear that an encore of ‘America’s Funniest Home Videos’ wouldn’t provide a goodly lead-in for ‘Scrubs’/'Better Off Ted’. ABC should have used another holiday special (‘Charlie Brown’?) instead from 8-9 pm last night.

  • DuMont

    I had a fear that an encore of ‘America’s Funniest Home Videos’ wouldn’t provide a goodly lead-in for ‘Scrubs’/'Better Off Ted’. ABC should have used another holiday special (‘Charlie Brown’?) instead from 8-9 pm last night.

  • DuMont

    I had a fear that an encore of ‘America’s Funniest Home Videos’ wouldn’t provide a goodly lead-in for ‘Scrubs’/'Better Off Ted’. ABC should have used another holiday special (‘Charlie Brown’?) instead from 8-9 pm last night.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    ron, thanks, repeat designation added to BL special.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    ron, thanks, repeat designation added to BL special.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    ron, thanks, repeat designation added to BL special.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    ron, thanks, repeat designation added to BL special.

  • DuMont

    That 0.3 in A18-49 for ‘Melrose Place’ ties the all-time network low currently held by original episodes of ‘Valentine’, ‘Easy Money’ and ‘CW Now’ and encores of ‘Easy Money’.

    The CW might want to consider calling their friends at MGM and reviving ‘The CW Movie’ on Tuesday and Wednesday nights until new episodes of the series are available again. ‘The CW Sunday Night Movie’ got them good numbers during last winter, spring and summer seasons.

  • DuMont

    That 0.3 in A18-49 for ‘Melrose Place’ ties the all-time network low currently held by original episodes of ‘Valentine’, ‘Easy Money’ and ‘CW Now’ and encores of ‘Easy Money’.

    The CW might want to consider calling their friends at MGM and reviving ‘The CW Movie’ on Tuesday and Wednesday nights until new episodes of the series are available again. ‘The CW Sunday Night Movie’ got them good numbers during last winter, spring and summer seasons.

  • DuMont

    That 0.3 in A18-49 for ‘Melrose Place’ ties the all-time network low currently held by original episodes of ‘Valentine’, ‘Easy Money’ and ‘CW Now’ and encores of ‘Easy Money’.

    The CW might want to consider calling their friends at MGM and reviving ‘The CW Movie’ on Tuesday and Wednesday nights until new episodes of the series are available again. ‘The CW Sunday Night Movie’ got them good numbers during last winter, spring and summer seasons.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    I’m surprised Leno didn’t do better. I wonder why NBC didn’t keep something up it’s sleeve… considering how well SNL Gilly Christmas did you’d think any type of non-repeat special would have won its time slot.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    I’m surprised Leno didn’t do better. I wonder why NBC didn’t keep something up it’s sleeve… considering how well SNL Gilly Christmas did you’d think any type of non-repeat special would have won its time slot.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    I’m surprised Leno didn’t do better. I wonder why NBC didn’t keep something up it’s sleeve… considering how well SNL Gilly Christmas did you’d think any type of non-repeat special would have won its time slot.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com battye

    I’m surprised Leno didn’t do better. I wonder why NBC didn’t keep something up it’s sleeve… considering how well SNL Gilly Christmas did you’d think any type of non-repeat special would have won its time slot.

  • DuMont

    Ooops.

    Retract my previous post. I was comparing the ‘Melrose Place’ A18-49 number to Household numbers for Valentine’, ‘Easy Money’ and ‘CW Now’. ‘Melrose Place’ did not tie the record last night (which is actually 0.1 in A18-49).

    My bad.

  • DuMont

    Ooops.

    Retract my previous post. I was comparing the ‘Melrose Place’ A18-49 number to Household numbers for Valentine’, ‘Easy Money’ and ‘CW Now’. ‘Melrose Place’ did not tie the record last night (which is actually 0.1 in A18-49).

    My bad.

  • DuMont

    Ooops.

    Retract my previous post. I was comparing the ‘Melrose Place’ A18-49 number to Household numbers for Valentine’, ‘Easy Money’ and ‘CW Now’. ‘Melrose Place’ did not tie the record last night (which is actually 0.1 in A18-49).

    My bad.

  • rob

    DuMont, Melrose Place was a repeat and did just as bad as a repeat of One Tree Hill and Gossip girl did yesterday.

  • rob

    DuMont, Melrose Place was a repeat and did just as bad as a repeat of One Tree Hill and Gossip girl did yesterday.

  • rob

    DuMont, Melrose Place was a repeat and did just as bad as a repeat of One Tree Hill and Gossip girl did yesterday.

  • rob

    DuMont, Melrose Place was a repeat and did just as bad as a repeat of One Tree Hill and Gossip girl did yesterday.

  • timotey

    NCIS repeats extremely well – 2.9 demo and 15+ mil. viewers? Wow. NCIS:LA didn’t do bad either.

  • timotey

    NCIS repeats extremely well – 2.9 demo and 15+ mil. viewers? Wow. NCIS:LA didn’t do bad either.

  • timotey

    NCIS repeats extremely well – 2.9 demo and 15+ mil. viewers? Wow. NCIS:LA didn’t do bad either.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    Why don’t CW ever air any half hour programs? I think I remember reading at the Futon Critic that they don’t have any comedies in development.

    Is it part of their mission statement that they will only make dramas and America’s Next Top Model?

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    Why don’t CW ever air any half hour programs? I think I remember reading at the Futon Critic that they don’t have any comedies in development.

    Is it part of their mission statement that they will only make dramas and America’s Next Top Model?

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    Why don’t CW ever air any half hour programs? I think I remember reading at the Futon Critic that they don’t have any comedies in development.

    Is it part of their mission statement that they will only make dramas and America’s Next Top Model?

  • timotey

    NCIS repeats extremely well – 2.9 demo and 15+ mil. viewers? Wow. NCIS:LA didn’t do bad either.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com battye

    Why don’t CW ever air any half hour programs? I think I remember reading at the Futon Critic that they don’t have any comedies in development.

    Is it part of their mission statement that they will only make dramas and America’s Next Top Model?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    battye, the conventional wisdom is that the CW scrapped its half hour comedies (The Game, Everybody Hates Chris) last season to go all one hour dramas and reality, although that’s obviously something they could reverse in any future season.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    battye, the conventional wisdom is that the CW scrapped its half hour comedies (The Game, Everybody Hates Chris) last season to go all one hour dramas and reality, although that’s obviously something they could reverse in any future season.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    battye, the conventional wisdom is that the CW scrapped its half hour comedies (The Game, Everybody Hates Chris) last season to go all one hour dramas and reality, although that’s obviously something they could reverse in any future season.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    battye, the conventional wisdom is that the CW scrapped its half hour comedies (The Game, Everybody Hates Chris) last season to go all one hour dramas and reality, although that’s obviously something they could reverse in any future season.

  • Chuck Tranberg

    Leno will have to be content to beat ABC repeats since I think CBS repeats will continue to dominate.

  • Chuck Tranberg

    Leno will have to be content to beat ABC repeats since I think CBS repeats will continue to dominate.

  • Chuck Tranberg

    Leno will have to be content to beat ABC repeats since I think CBS repeats will continue to dominate.

  • Chuck Tranberg

    Leno will have to be content to beat ABC repeats since I think CBS repeats will continue to dominate.

  • Guest

    I was paying attention to hockey.

  • http://dosomethingelse.tumblr.com/ J.R. Herbaugh

    I was paying attention to hockey.

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    Bill, thanks for explaining that :)

  • http://www.cricketmx.com/ battye

    Bill, thanks for explaining that :)

  • http://www.cricketmx.com battye

    Bill, thanks for explaining that :)

  • DuMont

    The CW got rid of their comedy development department, so I’m not sure how they would go about developing a new sitcom. They could, however, pick-up an unbought comedy pilot, especially one that was already developed for and passed on by another network by either CBS-Paramount or Warner Television studios.

  • DuMont

    The CW got rid of their comedy development department, so I’m not sure how they would go about developing a new sitcom. They could, however, pick-up an unbought comedy pilot, especially one that was already developed for and passed on by another network by either CBS-Paramount or Warner Television studios.

  • DuMont

    The CW got rid of their comedy development department, so I’m not sure how they would go about developing a new sitcom. They could, however, pick-up an unbought comedy pilot, especially one that was already developed for and passed on by another network by either CBS-Paramount or Warner Television studios.

  • DuMont

    The CW got rid of their comedy development department, so I’m not sure how they would go about developing a new sitcom. They could, however, pick-up an unbought comedy pilot, especially one that was already developed for and passed on by another network by either CBS-Paramount or Warner Television studios.

  • Ron

    Wow. Those are really good numbers for a 90210 repeat.

  • Ron

    Wow. Those are really good numbers for a 90210 repeat.

  • Ron

    Wow. Those are really good numbers for a 90210 repeat.

  • Ron

    Wow. Those are really good numbers for a 90210 repeat.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Those numbers for ABC are depressing when you consider that an AFV repeat is their highest-rated show of the night. Scrubs can’t even build on its repeat lead-in and Ted only got 77% retention out of Scrubs. This is my suggestion for ABC’s Tuesday night schedule for December 2010:

    8:00 – Holiday Specials
    9:00 – Holiday-themed Wipeout
    10:00 – Super Millionaire

    The holiday specials, which are mostly repeats, work fine for ABC and are usually #1 or #2 in the 8pm hour; Wipeout could be #1 or #2 in the 9pm hour depending on the competition; it’s almost a given that Super Millionaire would beat Jay Leno in the 10pm hour.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Those numbers for ABC are depressing when you consider that an AFV repeat is their highest-rated show of the night. Scrubs can’t even build on its repeat lead-in and Ted only got 77% retention out of Scrubs. This is my suggestion for ABC’s Tuesday night schedule for December 2010:

    8:00 – Holiday Specials
    9:00 – Holiday-themed Wipeout
    10:00 – Super Millionaire

    The holiday specials, which are mostly repeats, work fine for ABC and are usually #1 or #2 in the 8pm hour; Wipeout could be #1 or #2 in the 9pm hour depending on the competition; it’s almost a given that Super Millionaire would beat Jay Leno in the 10pm hour.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Those numbers for ABC are depressing when you consider that an AFV repeat is their highest-rated show of the night. Scrubs can’t even build on its repeat lead-in and Ted only got 77% retention out of Scrubs. This is my suggestion for ABC’s Tuesday night schedule for December 2010:

    8:00 – Holiday Specials
    9:00 – Holiday-themed Wipeout
    10:00 – Super Millionaire

    The holiday specials, which are mostly repeats, work fine for ABC and are usually #1 or #2 in the 8pm hour; Wipeout could be #1 or #2 in the 9pm hour depending on the competition; it’s almost a given that Super Millionaire would beat Jay Leno in the 10pm hour.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Those numbers for ABC are depressing when you consider that an AFV repeat is their highest-rated show of the night. Scrubs can’t even build on its repeat lead-in and Ted only got 77% retention out of Scrubs. This is my suggestion for ABC’s Tuesday night schedule for December 2010:

    8:00 – Holiday Specials
    9:00 – Holiday-themed Wipeout
    10:00 – Super Millionaire

    The holiday specials, which are mostly repeats, work fine for ABC and are usually #1 or #2 in the 8pm hour; Wipeout could be #1 or #2 in the 9pm hour depending on the competition; it’s almost a given that Super Millionaire would beat Jay Leno in the 10pm hour.

  • S.

    Better off Ted does 1.0 and nobody says the Tuesday is a wasteland?

  • S.

    Better off Ted does 1.0 and nobody says the Tuesday is a wasteland?

  • S.

    Better off Ted does 1.0 and nobody says the Tuesday is a wasteland?

  • S.

    Better off Ted does 1.0 and nobody says the Tuesday is a wasteland?

  • rob

    90210 repeats pretty well for the CW.

    I will miss Better Off Ted. ABC gave it plenty of chances, more than it deserved and now that it has The Middle, Modern Family, and Cougar Town and 3 comedies for next season, ABC is definitely going to cancel it. At least we got 2 seasons of the show.

  • rob

    90210 repeats pretty well for the CW.

    I will miss Better Off Ted. ABC gave it plenty of chances, more than it deserved and now that it has The Middle, Modern Family, and Cougar Town and 3 comedies for next season, ABC is definitely going to cancel it. At least we got 2 seasons of the show.

  • rob

    90210 repeats pretty well for the CW.

    I will miss Better Off Ted. ABC gave it plenty of chances, more than it deserved and now that it has The Middle, Modern Family, and Cougar Town and 3 comedies for next season, ABC is definitely going to cancel it. At least we got 2 seasons of the show.

  • rob

    90210 repeats pretty well for the CW.

    I will miss Better Off Ted. ABC gave it plenty of chances, more than it deserved and now that it has The Middle, Modern Family, and Cougar Town and 3 comedies for next season, ABC is definitely going to cancel it. At least we got 2 seasons of the show.

  • Stacy Parenteau

    Mr. Gorman,

    So now that Leno lost to a repeat again, why are you not doing your cynical gloating to the Leno fans? After all, whenever Leno does slightly better, you relish in saying, it is a “rough morning for the Leno ragers.” Fair is fair.

  • Stacy Parenteau

    Mr. Gorman,

    So now that Leno lost to a repeat again, why are you not doing your cynical gloating to the Leno fans? After all, whenever Leno does slightly better, you relish in saying, it is a “rough morning for the Leno ragers.” Fair is fair.

  • Stacy Parenteau

    Mr. Gorman,

    So now that Leno lost to a repeat again, why are you not doing your cynical gloating to the Leno fans? After all, whenever Leno does slightly better, you relish in saying, it is a “rough morning for the Leno ragers.” Fair is fair.

  • rob

    Im sure ABC is counting down until January 3 when their popular shows return.

  • rob

    Im sure ABC is counting down until January 3 when their popular shows return.

  • Stacy Parenteau

    Mr. Gorman,

    So now that Leno lost to a repeat again, why are you not doing your cynical gloating to the Leno fans? After all, whenever Leno does slightly better, you relish in saying, it is a “rough morning for the Leno ragers.” Fair is fair.

  • rob

    Im sure ABC is counting down until January 3 when their popular shows return.

  • ScienceOfTV

    CW really needs to sort itself out! Next fall don’t be surprised to see Smallville back midweek. If it can beat 90210 and Melrose Place on a Friday, then there is no question, right?

  • ScienceOfTV

    CW really needs to sort itself out! Next fall don’t be surprised to see Smallville back midweek. If it can beat 90210 and Melrose Place on a Friday, then there is no question, right?

  • ScienceOfTV

    CW really needs to sort itself out! Next fall don’t be surprised to see Smallville back midweek. If it can beat 90210 and Melrose Place on a Friday, then there is no question, right?

  • ScienceOfTV

    CW really needs to sort itself out! Next fall don’t be surprised to see Smallville back midweek. If it can beat 90210 and Melrose Place on a Friday, then there is no question, right?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    Of course on Friday Jay competes with the unscripted 20/20, do you rage against it as well? It is presumably just as evil as TJLS, since it takes time away from scripted dramas.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    Of course on Friday Jay competes with the unscripted 20/20, do you rage against it as well? It is presumably just as evil as TJLS, since it takes time away from scripted dramas.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    Of course on Friday Jay competes with the unscripted 20/20, do you rage against it as well? It is presumably just as evil as TJLS, since it takes time away from scripted dramas.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    Of course on Friday Jay competes with the unscripted 20/20, do you rage against it as well? It is presumably just as evil as TJLS, since it takes time away from scripted dramas.

  • MonapertX

    Although ABC bashing seems to be all the rage on this site, let’s not forget how many of their new shows are bound to make it too next season compared to last year when I believe underperforming new shows were salvaged for the new season (i.e. Castle and Better Off Ted).

    Now ABC has at least 2/3 sitcoms, 1 non scripted in Shark Tank (which seams to be a reliable and CHEAP [sharks use own money!] banker) and depending on the V return (let’s not forget it did hold above 3.0 for the 4 episodes aired) and the midseason shows (let’s hold are breath!) there is room for around 1 or 2 dramas.

    Come to think about it, that’s not a ideal amount, but much more than last year. The problem with this year are the long running shows losing viewers (although not that much).

    LOST will almost certainly pick up viewers who are desperate to find out what the reason is!

  • MonapertX

    Although ABC bashing seems to be all the rage on this site, let’s not forget how many of their new shows are bound to make it too next season compared to last year when I believe underperforming new shows were salvaged for the new season (i.e. Castle and Better Off Ted).

    Now ABC has at least 2/3 sitcoms, 1 non scripted in Shark Tank (which seams to be a reliable and CHEAP [sharks use own money!] banker) and depending on the V return (let’s not forget it did hold above 3.0 for the 4 episodes aired) and the midseason shows (let’s hold are breath!) there is room for around 1 or 2 dramas.

    Come to think about it, that’s not a ideal amount, but much more than last year. The problem with this year are the long running shows losing viewers (although not that much).

    LOST will almost certainly pick up viewers who are desperate to find out what the reason is!

  • MonapertX

    Although ABC bashing seems to be all the rage on this site, let’s not forget how many of their new shows are bound to make it too next season compared to last year when I believe underperforming new shows were salvaged for the new season (i.e. Castle and Better Off Ted).

    Now ABC has at least 2/3 sitcoms, 1 non scripted in Shark Tank (which seams to be a reliable and CHEAP [sharks use own money!] banker) and depending on the V return (let’s not forget it did hold above 3.0 for the 4 episodes aired) and the midseason shows (let’s hold are breath!) there is room for around 1 or 2 dramas.

    Come to think about it, that’s not a ideal amount, but much more than last year. The problem with this year are the long running shows losing viewers (although not that much).

    LOST will almost certainly pick up viewers who are desperate to find out what the reason is!

  • MonapertX

    Although ABC bashing seems to be all the rage on this site, let’s not forget how many of their new shows are bound to make it too next season compared to last year when I believe underperforming new shows were salvaged for the new season (i.e. Castle and Better Off Ted).

    Now ABC has at least 2/3 sitcoms, 1 non scripted in Shark Tank (which seams to be a reliable and CHEAP [sharks use own money!] banker) and depending on the V return (let’s not forget it did hold above 3.0 for the 4 episodes aired) and the midseason shows (let’s hold are breath!) there is room for around 1 or 2 dramas.

    Come to think about it, that’s not a ideal amount, but much more than last year. The problem with this year are the long running shows losing viewers (although not that much).

    LOST will almost certainly pick up viewers who are desperate to find out what the reason is!

  • Ron

    Are those NCIS ratings for its repeats almost equal to new episodes of CSI?

  • Ron

    Are those NCIS ratings for its repeats almost equal to new episodes of CSI?

  • Ron

    Are those NCIS ratings for its repeats almost equal to new episodes of CSI?

  • MonapertX

    Why can’t ABC repeat?

    Probably too many heavily serialized shows and the popularity of ABC.com and HULU’s showings of ABC programmes.

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

  • MonapertX

    Why can’t ABC repeat?

    Probably too many heavily serialized shows and the popularity of ABC.com and HULU’s showings of ABC programmes.

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

  • MonapertX

    Why can’t ABC repeat?

    Probably too many heavily serialized shows and the popularity of ABC.com and HULU’s showings of ABC programmes.

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

  • Ron

    Are those NCIS ratings for its repeats almost equal to new episodes of CSI?

  • MonapertX

    Why can’t ABC repeat?

    Probably too many heavily serialized shows and the popularity of ABC.com and HULU’s showings of ABC programmes.

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

  • Riff Rafferty

    I’ve given up trying to get people to watch “Better Off Ted.” I’m just going to make the final 10 episodes my best-kept secret. So carry on. As you were. Not watching. 10 years down the road, perhaps the show will find the audience it didn’t find the first time around. Like “Police Squad.” And then I will rub it in your face and say, “Well, I was a fan from the beginning. Where were you?”

  • Riff Rafferty

    I’ve given up trying to get people to watch “Better Off Ted.” I’m just going to make the final 10 episodes my best-kept secret. So carry on. As you were. Not watching. 10 years down the road, perhaps the show will find the audience it didn’t find the first time around. Like “Police Squad.” And then I will rub it in your face and say, “Well, I was a fan from the beginning. Where were you?”

  • Riff Rafferty

    I’ve given up trying to get people to watch “Better Off Ted.” I’m just going to make the final 10 episodes my best-kept secret. So carry on. As you were. Not watching. 10 years down the road, perhaps the show will find the audience it didn’t find the first time around. Like “Police Squad.” And then I will rub it in your face and say, “Well, I was a fan from the beginning. Where were you?”

  • Riff Rafferty

    I’ve given up trying to get people to watch “Better Off Ted.” I’m just going to make the final 10 episodes my best-kept secret. So carry on. As you were. Not watching. 10 years down the road, perhaps the show will find the audience it didn’t find the first time around. Like “Police Squad.” And then I will rub it in your face and say, “Well, I was a fan from the beginning. Where were you?”

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Ron, no, new episodes of CSI have averaged a 3.72 adults 18-49 rating. Although perhaps your definition of “almost” bridges the gap between a 2.9 and a 3.7.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Ron, no, new episodes of CSI have averaged a 3.72 adults 18-49 rating. Although perhaps your definition of “almost” bridges the gap between a 2.9 and a 3.7.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Ron, no, new episodes of CSI have averaged a 3.72 adults 18-49 rating. Although perhaps your definition of “almost” bridges the gap between a 2.9 and a 3.7.

  • gmyers

    Being beaten by a rerun of The Good Wife!!!in the demo is pathetic.

  • gmyers

    Being beaten by a rerun of The Good Wife!!!in the demo is pathetic.

  • gmyers

    Being beaten by a rerun of The Good Wife!!!in the demo is pathetic.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Ron, no, new episodes of CSI have averaged a 3.72 adults 18-49 rating. Although perhaps your definition of “almost” bridges the gap between a 2.9 and a 3.7.

  • gmyers

    Being beaten by a rerun of The Good Wife!!!in the demo is pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

    Usually because they don’t own the rights to air them.

  • Anonymous

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

    Usually because they don’t own the rights to air them.

  • Holly

    Why cant networks repeat stuff from past seasons, like shows which were cancelled or ended 5 or 10 years ago. Would anyone be excited to see a The Practice repeat or vintage episodes of Boston Legal?

    Usually because they don’t own the rights to air them.

  • Shem

    Good repeat numbers for 90210.

    FOX deserved its low ratings. I thought Carrie would opened with a Christmas carol instead she opened with feminine male dancers and a weird “country” performance. She should leave the dancers for Adam Lambert…

    And wow CBS was well ahead of its competitors- Now if CW’s original shows could only get half of those numbers, Dawn would get ecstatic!

  • Shem

    Good repeat numbers for 90210.

    FOX deserved its low ratings. I thought Carrie would opened with a Christmas carol instead she opened with feminine male dancers and a weird “country” performance. She should leave the dancers for Adam Lambert…

    And wow CBS was well ahead of its competitors- Now if CW’s original shows could only get half of those numbers, Dawn would get ecstatic!

  • Shem

    Good repeat numbers for 90210.

    FOX deserved its low ratings. I thought Carrie would opened with a Christmas carol instead she opened with feminine male dancers and a weird “country” performance. She should leave the dancers for Adam Lambert…

    And wow CBS was well ahead of its competitors- Now if CW’s original shows could only get half of those numbers, Dawn would get ecstatic!

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Wow – what a major hit ABC has taken by replacing “V” with “Scrubs.” Something like 8 to 10 million fewer viewers. I would guess that even repeats of “V” would double “Scrubs” ratings.
    They’ll suffer with this through March.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Wow – what a major hit ABC has taken by replacing “V” with “Scrubs.” Something like 8 to 10 million fewer viewers. I would guess that even repeats of “V” would double “Scrubs” ratings.
    They’ll suffer with this through March.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Wow – what a major hit ABC has taken by replacing “V” with “Scrubs.” Something like 8 to 10 million fewer viewers. I would guess that even repeats of “V” would double “Scrubs” ratings.
    They’ll suffer with this through March.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com Anthony

    Wow – what a major hit ABC has taken by replacing “V” with “Scrubs.” Something like 8 to 10 million fewer viewers. I would guess that even repeats of “V” would double “Scrubs” ratings.
    They’ll suffer with this through March.

  • http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/ The1337

    What show will end with lower ratings? Better Off Ted or Dollhouse?

  • http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/ The1337

    What show will end with lower ratings? Better Off Ted or Dollhouse?

  • http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/ The1337

    What show will end with lower ratings? Better Off Ted or Dollhouse?

  • http://th3tvobsessed.blogspot.com/ The1337

    What show will end with lower ratings? Better Off Ted or Dollhouse?

  • http://sports2000.today.com/ Dingo

    I saw the Carrie Underwood special when it first aired two weeks ago. No need to see it again. I was watching the Las Vegas Bowl. The game was boring though; it put me to sleep before 9 p.m.

  • http://sports2000.today.com/ Dingo

    I saw the Carrie Underwood special when it first aired two weeks ago. No need to see it again. I was watching the Las Vegas Bowl. The game was boring though; it put me to sleep before 9 p.m.

  • http://sports2000.today.com/ Dingo

    I saw the Carrie Underwood special when it first aired two weeks ago. No need to see it again. I was watching the Las Vegas Bowl. The game was boring though; it put me to sleep before 9 p.m.

  • http://sports2000.today.com Dingo

    I saw the Carrie Underwood special when it first aired two weeks ago. No need to see it again. I was watching the Las Vegas Bowl. The game was boring though; it put me to sleep before 9 p.m.

  • Joe

    I like ur idea holly repeat a Christmas friends. Or NBC should just repeat the whole season of Friends or another show and it probably do better than anyother show on NBC

  • Joe

    I like ur idea holly repeat a Christmas friends. Or NBC should just repeat the whole season of Friends or another show and it probably do better than anyother show on NBC

  • Joe

    I like ur idea holly repeat a Christmas friends. Or NBC should just repeat the whole season of Friends or another show and it probably do better than anyother show on NBC

  • Joe

    I like ur idea holly repeat a Christmas friends. Or NBC should just repeat the whole season of Friends or another show and it probably do better than anyother show on NBC

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    There have been a few comments about the lead-in influence of shows. I think that’s kind of old-school.
    With advanced remote controls, DVR and the ability to set reminders with my cable box, does it really matter which shows lead-in to others?
    Personally, it doesn’t matter a bit to me that Community and Parks & Recreation are on before The Office. I’d watch The Office if a blank screen was a lead-in, and likewise I would not watch The Biggest Loser if The Office was the lead-in.
    I think viewer preferences are more sophisticated than they were back when you had to get out of your chair to change the channel.

    Add to that the fact that networks advertise on cable networks like TBS and TNT, and I think the lead-in thing is overrated.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    There have been a few comments about the lead-in influence of shows. I think that’s kind of old-school.
    With advanced remote controls, DVR and the ability to set reminders with my cable box, does it really matter which shows lead-in to others?
    Personally, it doesn’t matter a bit to me that Community and Parks & Recreation are on before The Office. I’d watch The Office if a blank screen was a lead-in, and likewise I would not watch The Biggest Loser if The Office was the lead-in.
    I think viewer preferences are more sophisticated than they were back when you had to get out of your chair to change the channel.

    Add to that the fact that networks advertise on cable networks like TBS and TNT, and I think the lead-in thing is overrated.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    There have been a few comments about the lead-in influence of shows. I think that’s kind of old-school.
    With advanced remote controls, DVR and the ability to set reminders with my cable box, does it really matter which shows lead-in to others?
    Personally, it doesn’t matter a bit to me that Community and Parks & Recreation are on before The Office. I’d watch The Office if a blank screen was a lead-in, and likewise I would not watch The Biggest Loser if The Office was the lead-in.
    I think viewer preferences are more sophisticated than they were back when you had to get out of your chair to change the channel.

    Add to that the fact that networks advertise on cable networks like TBS and TNT, and I think the lead-in thing is overrated.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    There have been a few comments about the lead-in influence of shows. I think that’s kind of old-school.
    With advanced remote controls, DVR and the ability to set reminders with my cable box, does it really matter which shows lead-in to others?
    Personally, it doesn’t matter a bit to me that Community and Parks & Recreation are on before The Office. I’d watch The Office if a blank screen was a lead-in, and likewise I would not watch The Biggest Loser if The Office was the lead-in.
    I think viewer preferences are more sophisticated than they were back when you had to get out of your chair to change the channel.

    Add to that the fact that networks advertise on cable networks like TBS and TNT, and I think the lead-in thing is overrated.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com Anthony

    There have been a few comments about the lead-in influence of shows. I think that’s kind of old-school.
    With advanced remote controls, DVR and the ability to set reminders with my cable box, does it really matter which shows lead-in to others?
    Personally, it doesn’t matter a bit to me that Community and Parks & Recreation are on before The Office. I’d watch The Office if a blank screen was a lead-in, and likewise I would not watch The Biggest Loser if The Office was the lead-in.
    I think viewer preferences are more sophisticated than they were back when you had to get out of your chair to change the channel.

    Add to that the fact that networks advertise on cable networks like TBS and TNT, and I think the lead-in thing is overrated.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Anthony, I agree it shouldn’t matter based on the reasons you cited, but ratings behavior still indicates it does matter.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Anthony, I agree it shouldn’t matter based on the reasons you cited, but ratings behavior still indicates it does matter.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Anthony, I agree it shouldn’t matter based on the reasons you cited, but ratings behavior still indicates it does matter.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Anthony, I agree it shouldn’t matter based on the reasons you cited, but ratings behavior still indicates it does matter.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Joe: NBC doesn’t own the rights to rerun Friends because it’s a Warner Bros.-produced show. If they wanted to, The CW could occasionally re-air holiday specials of Friends in place of their drama reruns and it might rate higher in the W18-34 demo than all other CW shows.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Joe: NBC doesn’t own the rights to rerun Friends because it’s a Warner Bros.-produced show. If they wanted to, The CW could occasionally re-air holiday specials of Friends in place of their drama reruns and it might rate higher in the W18-34 demo than all other CW shows.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Joe: NBC doesn’t own the rights to rerun Friends because it’s a Warner Bros.-produced show. If they wanted to, The CW could occasionally re-air holiday specials of Friends in place of their drama reruns and it might rate higher in the W18-34 demo than all other CW shows.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Joe: NBC doesn’t own the rights to rerun Friends because it’s a Warner Bros.-produced show. If they wanted to, The CW could occasionally re-air holiday specials of Friends in place of their drama reruns and it might rate higher in the W18-34 demo than all other CW shows.

  • ABCHasProblems

    Joe: NBC doesn’t own the rights to rerun Friends because it’s a Warner Bros.-produced show. If they wanted to, The CW could occasionally re-air holiday specials of Friends in place of their drama reruns and it might rate higher in the W18-34 demo than all other CW shows.

  • aznfratboy

    @ Anthony I know huh, people struggle to use a remote to change the channel in 2009, we are that lazy as humans.. and overrunning a TV show by 1min should only really effect advertising revenue, I mean cmon, you’ve missed 60 seconds of a show, 30 of which are probably the opening theme anyway, it’s not like you;ve missed 15 mins…

  • aznfratboy

    @ Anthony I know huh, people struggle to use a remote to change the channel in 2009, we are that lazy as humans.. and overrunning a TV show by 1min should only really effect advertising revenue, I mean cmon, you’ve missed 60 seconds of a show, 30 of which are probably the opening theme anyway, it’s not like you;ve missed 15 mins…

  • aznfratboy

    @ Anthony I know huh, people struggle to use a remote to change the channel in 2009, we are that lazy as humans.. and overrunning a TV show by 1min should only really effect advertising revenue, I mean cmon, you’ve missed 60 seconds of a show, 30 of which are probably the opening theme anyway, it’s not like you;ve missed 15 mins…

  • Jamie

    Scrubs and Better Off Ted are the two best shows on of a Tuesday. So i’m hardly suprised people don’t watch them.

  • Jamie

    Scrubs and Better Off Ted are the two best shows on of a Tuesday. So i’m hardly suprised people don’t watch them.

  • Jamie

    Scrubs and Better Off Ted are the two best shows on of a Tuesday. So i’m hardly suprised people don’t watch them.

  • Jamie

    Scrubs and Better Off Ted are the two best shows on of a Tuesday. So i’m hardly suprised people don’t watch them.

  • Jamie

    Scrubs and Better Off Ted are the two best shows on of a Tuesday. So i’m hardly suprised people don’t watch them.

  • Anonymous

    @Joe,

    That wasn’t my idea, I was responding to MonapertX as to why they don’t do that.

  • Anonymous

    @Joe,

    That wasn’t my idea, I was responding to MonapertX as to why they don’t do that.

  • Anonymous

    @Joe,

    That wasn’t my idea, I was responding to MonapertX as to why they don’t do that.

  • Anonymous

    @Joe,

    That wasn’t my idea, I was responding to MonapertX as to why they don’t do that.

  • Holly

    @Joe,

    That wasn’t my idea, I was responding to MonapertX as to why they don’t do that.

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Bill: How do the ratings services know whether someone is watching a program because they choose to watch or because of what preceeded it? Is “I just left the channel on” a marketing response that people give?
    I guess I don’t understand how NCIS would affect The Good Wife. Maybe once, but not twice if the person didn’t like the program.
    Perhaps I think for myself more than the average Nielsen family?

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Bill: How do the ratings services know whether someone is watching a program because they choose to watch or because of what preceeded it? Is “I just left the channel on” a marketing response that people give?
    I guess I don’t understand how NCIS would affect The Good Wife. Maybe once, but not twice if the person didn’t like the program.
    Perhaps I think for myself more than the average Nielsen family?

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Bill: How do the ratings services know whether someone is watching a program because they choose to watch or because of what preceeded it? Is “I just left the channel on” a marketing response that people give?
    I guess I don’t understand how NCIS would affect The Good Wife. Maybe once, but not twice if the person didn’t like the program.
    Perhaps I think for myself more than the average Nielsen family?

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com/ Anthony

    Bill: How do the ratings services know whether someone is watching a program because they choose to watch or because of what preceeded it? Is “I just left the channel on” a marketing response that people give?
    I guess I don’t understand how NCIS would affect The Good Wife. Maybe once, but not twice if the person didn’t like the program.
    Perhaps I think for myself more than the average Nielsen family?

  • http://my-sick.blogspot.com Anthony

    Bill: How do the ratings services know whether someone is watching a program because they choose to watch or because of what preceeded it? Is “I just left the channel on” a marketing response that people give?
    I guess I don’t understand how NCIS would affect The Good Wife. Maybe once, but not twice if the person didn’t like the program.
    Perhaps I think for myself more than the average Nielsen family?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think most people have really strong feelings either way for the majority of TV shows whether they watch them or not. There are many shows I don’t dislike, but I don’t watch for various reasons (scheduling being high on the list). There are also some shows that I’ll watch even if I’m kind of ‘meh’ on them just because I don’t have anything else to do at the time.

    Also, if I’m already watching TV, I’m more likely to keep watching TV than I would be to turn on the TV for a 10 pm show that I like but don’t particularly care about. (OK, maybe part of that is my remote doesn’t work so I have to manually get up and turn my TV on and off and I’m lazy, but…).

    I think lead-in adds casual viewers because they don’t particularly care. Of course, if they hate the show, they won’t watch it, but if its an OK show, they might keep it on. They’ll watch it if it’s already on, but they wouldn’t seek it out.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think most people have really strong feelings either way for the majority of TV shows whether they watch them or not. There are many shows I don’t dislike, but I don’t watch for various reasons (scheduling being high on the list). There are also some shows that I’ll watch even if I’m kind of ‘meh’ on them just because I don’t have anything else to do at the time.

    Also, if I’m already watching TV, I’m more likely to keep watching TV than I would be to turn on the TV for a 10 pm show that I like but don’t particularly care about. (OK, maybe part of that is my remote doesn’t work so I have to manually get up and turn my TV on and off and I’m lazy, but…).

    I think lead-in adds casual viewers because they don’t particularly care. Of course, if they hate the show, they won’t watch it, but if its an OK show, they might keep it on. They’ll watch it if it’s already on, but they wouldn’t seek it out.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think most people have really strong feelings either way for the majority of TV shows whether they watch them or not. There are many shows I don’t dislike, but I don’t watch for various reasons (scheduling being high on the list). There are also some shows that I’ll watch even if I’m kind of ‘meh’ on them just because I don’t have anything else to do at the time.

    Also, if I’m already watching TV, I’m more likely to keep watching TV than I would be to turn on the TV for a 10 pm show that I like but don’t particularly care about. (OK, maybe part of that is my remote doesn’t work so I have to manually get up and turn my TV on and off and I’m lazy, but…).

    I think lead-in adds casual viewers because they don’t particularly care. Of course, if they hate the show, they won’t watch it, but if its an OK show, they might keep it on. They’ll watch it if it’s already on, but they wouldn’t seek it out.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think most people have really strong feelings either way for the majority of TV shows whether they watch them or not. There are many shows I don’t dislike, but I don’t watch for various reasons (scheduling being high on the list). There are also some shows that I’ll watch even if I’m kind of ‘meh’ on them just because I don’t have anything else to do at the time.

    Also, if I’m already watching TV, I’m more likely to keep watching TV than I would be to turn on the TV for a 10 pm show that I like but don’t particularly care about. (OK, maybe part of that is my remote doesn’t work so I have to manually get up and turn my TV on and off and I’m lazy, but…).

    I think lead-in adds casual viewers because they don’t particularly care. Of course, if they hate the show, they won’t watch it, but if its an OK show, they might keep it on. They’ll watch it if it’s already on, but they wouldn’t seek it out.

  • Holly

    I don’t think most people have really strong feelings either way for the majority of TV shows whether they watch them or not. There are many shows I don’t dislike, but I don’t watch for various reasons (scheduling being high on the list). There are also some shows that I’ll watch even if I’m kind of ‘meh’ on them just because I don’t have anything else to do at the time.

    Also, if I’m already watching TV, I’m more likely to keep watching TV than I would be to turn on the TV for a 10 pm show that I like but don’t particularly care about. (OK, maybe part of that is my remote doesn’t work so I have to manually get up and turn my TV on and off and I’m lazy, but…).

    I think lead-in adds casual viewers because they don’t particularly care. Of course, if they hate the show, they won’t watch it, but if its an OK show, they might keep it on. They’ll watch it if it’s already on, but they wouldn’t seek it out.

  • Dingo

    I think concepts like “lead-ins,” “lead-outs,” “tentpoles” and “hammocks” are overrated too but apparently the ratings show otherwise.

    I will never understand people who say, “I like Show X at 8 p.m. and Show Z at 10 p.m. on network UNO. I don’t like Show Y at 9 p.m. on the network but I’d rather sit through it than change the channel or turn off the TV and return when a show I like is airing.”

  • Dingo

    I think concepts like “lead-ins,” “lead-outs,” “tentpoles” and “hammocks” are overrated too but apparently the ratings show otherwise.

    I will never understand people who say, “I like Show X at 8 p.m. and Show Z at 10 p.m. on network UNO. I don’t like Show Y at 9 p.m. on the network but I’d rather sit through it than change the channel or turn off the TV and return when a show I like is airing.”

  • Dingo

    I think concepts like “lead-ins,” “lead-outs,” “tentpoles” and “hammocks” are overrated too but apparently the ratings show otherwise.

    I will never understand people who say, “I like Show X at 8 p.m. and Show Z at 10 p.m. on network UNO. I don’t like Show Y at 9 p.m. on the network but I’d rather sit through it than change the channel or turn off the TV and return when a show I like is airing.”

  • Dingo

    I think concepts like “lead-ins,” “lead-outs,” “tentpoles” and “hammocks” are overrated too but apparently the ratings show otherwise.

    I will never understand people who say, “I like Show X at 8 p.m. and Show Z at 10 p.m. on network UNO. I don’t like Show Y at 9 p.m. on the network but I’d rather sit through it than change the channel or turn off the TV and return when a show I like is airing.”

  • Dingo

    I think concepts like “lead-ins,” “lead-outs,” “tentpoles” and “hammocks” are overrated too but apparently the ratings show otherwise.

    I will never understand people who say, “I like Show X at 8 p.m. and Show Z at 10 p.m. on network UNO. I don’t like Show Y at 9 p.m. on the network but I’d rather sit through it than change the channel or turn off the TV and return when a show I like is airing.”

  • usedtolovecoco

    Wow, the WB really got rid of their comedy department? That seems… unwise. Throwing out all of your half hour TV is like throwing away your gun in favor of all grenades. Sure, bigger bang, but someday you might need to shoot something?

  • usedtolovecoco

    Wow, the WB really got rid of their comedy department? That seems… unwise. Throwing out all of your half hour TV is like throwing away your gun in favor of all grenades. Sure, bigger bang, but someday you might need to shoot something?

  • usedtolovecoco

    Wow, the WB really got rid of their comedy department? That seems… unwise. Throwing out all of your half hour TV is like throwing away your gun in favor of all grenades. Sure, bigger bang, but someday you might need to shoot something?

  • usedtolovecoco

    Wow, the WB really got rid of their comedy department? That seems… unwise. Throwing out all of your half hour TV is like throwing away your gun in favor of all grenades. Sure, bigger bang, but someday you might need to shoot something?

  • usedtolovecoco

    Wow, the WB really got rid of their comedy department? That seems… unwise. Throwing out all of your half hour TV is like throwing away your gun in favor of all grenades. Sure, bigger bang, but someday you might need to shoot something?

  • Julia

    CW, not WB. WB still has a very strong comedy department. The biggest comedies on TV right now (TBBT, 2.5 Men) are WB. ;)

  • Julia

    CW, not WB. WB still has a very strong comedy department. The biggest comedies on TV right now (TBBT, 2.5 Men) are WB. ;)

  • Julia

    CW, not WB. WB still has a very strong comedy department. The biggest comedies on TV right now (TBBT, 2.5 Men) are WB. ;)

  • Julia

    CW, not WB. WB still has a very strong comedy department. The biggest comedies on TV right now (TBBT, 2.5 Men) are WB. ;)

  • http://remotecontrolsyou.com Julia

    CW, not WB. WB still has a very strong comedy department. The biggest comedies on TV right now (TBBT, 2.5 Men) are WB. ;)

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Anthony, if studies have been done on the “why” I haven’t seen them (although they may exist). Just the simple fact that changing the lead-in to a show changes its rating pretty consistently seems to indicate the behavior is real.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Anthony, if studies have been done on the “why” I haven’t seen them (although they may exist). Just the simple fact that changing the lead-in to a show changes its rating pretty consistently seems to indicate the behavior is real.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Anthony, if studies have been done on the “why” I haven’t seen them (although they may exist). Just the simple fact that changing the lead-in to a show changes its rating pretty consistently seems to indicate the behavior is real.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Anthony, if studies have been done on the “why” I haven’t seen them (although they may exist). Just the simple fact that changing the lead-in to a show changes its rating pretty consistently seems to indicate the behavior is real.

  • Sid

    I’m not so mad. Melrose did just as bad as OTH and GG on Monday night.

  • Sid

    I’m not so mad. Melrose did just as bad as OTH and GG on Monday night.

  • Sid

    I’m not so mad. Melrose did just as bad as OTH and GG on Monday night.

  • Sid

    I’m not so mad. Melrose did just as bad as OTH and GG on Monday night.

  • Sid

    I’m not so mad. Melrose did just as bad as OTH and GG on Monday night.

  • Mark D.

    It looks like 90210 does the best in repeats for The CW.

  • Mark D.

    It looks like 90210 does the best in repeats for The CW.

  • Mark D.

    It looks like 90210 does the best in repeats for The CW.

  • Mark D.

    It looks like 90210 does the best in repeats for The CW.

  • Mark D.

    It looks like 90210 does the best in repeats for The CW.

  • DuMont

    Bill Gorman says:
    December 23, 2009 at 9:37 am
    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    ‘TJLS’ is also impacting CBS.

    I think the older demos that watch ‘TJLS’ have taken a chunk of A50+ audience away from some of the CBS 10 pm crimetimers too (‘CSI:M’ and ‘CSI:NY’ are both down from last year), and may be the reason that ‘Numbers’ is on the brink of cancellation.

    HH/% A18-49 P2+ for:
    CBS 10 pm Series 13wks-2008/09 vs 13 wks-2009/10
    ————————————————
    ‘CSI: Miami’ 9.0HH/15% 3.90 13,740,000 vs 8.4HH/14%, 3.74, 13,023,000

    ‘Without a Trace’ 7.7HH/13% 2.64 11,693,000 vs. ‘The Good Wife’ 8.4HH/15%, 2.68, 12,605,000

    ‘CSI: NY’ 8.8HH/15%, 3.64 13,670,000 vs 8.3HH/14, 3.13, 12,988,000

    ‘Eleventh Hour’ 7.2HH/12%, 2.89 11,028,000 vs. ‘The Mentalist’ 9.2HH/16%, 3.32, 14,483,000

    ‘Numbers’ 5.9HH/11%, 2.19, 9,206,000 vs. 4.8HH/9%, 1.62, 7,463,000

    Although ‘The Good Wife’ and ‘The Mentalist’ are up over same time period series last year, I think going into the fall that CBS had higher expectations for both series, especially ‘The Mentalist’ (‘TJLS’ has probably blunted ‘The Mentalist’ from growing on last season’s fall-13-week average of 10.1HH/15%, 3.62, 16,126,000).

  • DuMont

    Bill Gorman says:
    December 23, 2009 at 9:37 am
    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    ‘TJLS’ is also impacting CBS.

    I think the older demos that watch ‘TJLS’ have taken a chunk of A50+ audience away from some of the CBS 10 pm crimetimers too (‘CSI:M’ and ‘CSI:NY’ are both down from last year), and may be the reason that ‘Numbers’ is on the brink of cancellation.

    HH/% A18-49 P2+ for:
    CBS 10 pm Series 13wks-2008/09 vs 13 wks-2009/10
    ————————————————
    ‘CSI: Miami’ 9.0HH/15% 3.90 13,740,000 vs 8.4HH/14%, 3.74, 13,023,000

    ‘Without a Trace’ 7.7HH/13% 2.64 11,693,000 vs. ‘The Good Wife’ 8.4HH/15%, 2.68, 12,605,000

    ‘CSI: NY’ 8.8HH/15%, 3.64 13,670,000 vs 8.3HH/14, 3.13, 12,988,000

    ‘Eleventh Hour’ 7.2HH/12%, 2.89 11,028,000 vs. ‘The Mentalist’ 9.2HH/16%, 3.32, 14,483,000

    ‘Numbers’ 5.9HH/11%, 2.19, 9,206,000 vs. 4.8HH/9%, 1.62, 7,463,000

    Although ‘The Good Wife’ and ‘The Mentalist’ are up over same time period series last year, I think going into the fall that CBS had higher expectations for both series, especially ‘The Mentalist’ (‘TJLS’ has probably blunted ‘The Mentalist’ from growing on last season’s fall-13-week average of 10.1HH/15%, 3.62, 16,126,000).

  • DuMont

    Bill Gorman says:
    December 23, 2009 at 9:37 am
    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    ‘TJLS’ is also impacting CBS.

    I think the older demos that watch ‘TJLS’ have taken a chunk of A50+ audience away from some of the CBS 10 pm crimetimers too (‘CSI:M’ and ‘CSI:NY’ are both down from last year), and may be the reason that ‘Numbers’ is on the brink of cancellation.

    HH/% A18-49 P2+ for:
    CBS 10 pm Series 13wks-2008/09 vs 13 wks-2009/10
    ————————————————
    ‘CSI: Miami’ 9.0HH/15% 3.90 13,740,000 vs 8.4HH/14%, 3.74, 13,023,000

    ‘Without a Trace’ 7.7HH/13% 2.64 11,693,000 vs. ‘The Good Wife’ 8.4HH/15%, 2.68, 12,605,000

    ‘CSI: NY’ 8.8HH/15%, 3.64 13,670,000 vs 8.3HH/14, 3.13, 12,988,000

    ‘Eleventh Hour’ 7.2HH/12%, 2.89 11,028,000 vs. ‘The Mentalist’ 9.2HH/16%, 3.32, 14,483,000

    ‘Numbers’ 5.9HH/11%, 2.19, 9,206,000 vs. 4.8HH/9%, 1.62, 7,463,000

    Although ‘The Good Wife’ and ‘The Mentalist’ are up over same time period series last year, I think going into the fall that CBS had higher expectations for both series, especially ‘The Mentalist’ (‘TJLS’ has probably blunted ‘The Mentalist’ from growing on last season’s fall-13-week average of 10.1HH/15%, 3.62, 16,126,000).

  • DuMont

    Bill Gorman says:
    December 23, 2009 at 9:37 am
    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    ‘TJLS’ is also impacting CBS.

    I think the older demos that watch ‘TJLS’ have taken a chunk of A50+ audience away from some of the CBS 10 pm crimetimers too (‘CSI:M’ and ‘CSI:NY’ are both down from last year), and may be the reason that ‘Numbers’ is on the brink of cancellation.

    HH/% A18-49 P2+ for:
    CBS 10 pm Series 13wks-2008/09 vs 13 wks-2009/10
    ————————————————
    ‘CSI: Miami’ 9.0HH/15% 3.90 13,740,000 vs 8.4HH/14%, 3.74, 13,023,000

    ‘Without a Trace’ 7.7HH/13% 2.64 11,693,000 vs. ‘The Good Wife’ 8.4HH/15%, 2.68, 12,605,000

    ‘CSI: NY’ 8.8HH/15%, 3.64 13,670,000 vs 8.3HH/14, 3.13, 12,988,000

    ‘Eleventh Hour’ 7.2HH/12%, 2.89 11,028,000 vs. ‘The Mentalist’ 9.2HH/16%, 3.32, 14,483,000

    ‘Numbers’ 5.9HH/11%, 2.19, 9,206,000 vs. 4.8HH/9%, 1.62, 7,463,000

    Although ‘The Good Wife’ and ‘The Mentalist’ are up over same time period series last year, I think going into the fall that CBS had higher expectations for both series, especially ‘The Mentalist’ (‘TJLS’ has probably blunted ‘The Mentalist’ from growing on last season’s fall-13-week average of 10.1HH/15%, 3.62, 16,126,000).

  • DuMont

    Bill Gorman says:
    December 23, 2009 at 9:37 am
    Stacy Parenteau, did I not write about how he failed again to beat a CBS repeat and “Maybe next week, Jay!”? Perhaps in your Leno Rage you skipped that part?

    Do note he again beat an ABC repeat, but that’s hardly news. TJLS now regularly beats ABC repeats.

    And here’s a bit more fuel for the Leno Ragers this morning. Of the four ABC scripted shows it goes head to head with, two have failed (Eastwick, the forgotten) and will be canceled, one is on the bubble (Castle), and one is doing well (Private Practice). So Leno will outlast at least half of the ABC 10pm scripted schedule this fall!

    ‘TJLS’ is also impacting CBS.

    I think the older demos that watch ‘TJLS’ have taken a chunk of A50+ audience away from some of the CBS 10 pm crimetimers too (‘CSI:M’ and ‘CSI:NY’ are both down from last year), and may be the reason that ‘Numbers’ is on the brink of cancellation.

    HH/% A18-49 P2+ for:
    CBS 10 pm Series 13wks-2008/09 vs 13 wks-2009/10
    ————————————————
    ‘CSI: Miami’ 9.0HH/15% 3.90 13,740,000 vs 8.4HH/14%, 3.74, 13,023,000

    ‘Without a Trace’ 7.7HH/13% 2.64 11,693,000 vs. ‘The Good Wife’ 8.4HH/15%, 2.68, 12,605,000

    ‘CSI: NY’ 8.8HH/15%, 3.64 13,670,000 vs 8.3HH/14, 3.13, 12,988,000

    ‘Eleventh Hour’ 7.2HH/12%, 2.89 11,028,000 vs. ‘The Mentalist’ 9.2HH/16%, 3.32, 14,483,000

    ‘Numbers’ 5.9HH/11%, 2.19, 9,206,000 vs. 4.8HH/9%, 1.62, 7,463,000

    Although ‘The Good Wife’ and ‘The Mentalist’ are up over same time period series last year, I think going into the fall that CBS had higher expectations for both series, especially ‘The Mentalist’ (‘TJLS’ has probably blunted ‘The Mentalist’ from growing on last season’s fall-13-week average of 10.1HH/15%, 3.62, 16,126,000).

  • Dustin

    Carrie’s special was awesome!!! I watched it when it first aired and again last night – that girl is funny!

  • Dustin

    Carrie’s special was awesome!!! I watched it when it first aired and again last night – that girl is funny!

  • Dustin

    Carrie’s special was awesome!!! I watched it when it first aired and again last night – that girl is funny!

  • Dustin

    Carrie’s special was awesome!!! I watched it when it first aired and again last night – that girl is funny!

  • Dustin

    Carrie’s special was awesome!!! I watched it when it first aired and again last night – that girl is funny!

  • TSA

    Yeah, Scrubs is dead. I didn’t have high hopes when I heard the creator wanted to milk even more seasons out of the show after that many seasons and a picture-perfect “series finale”.

    In Late Night news, Ferguson can apparently beat Fallon even when their lead-ins are tied. That sure boosts his stock.

  • TSA

    Yeah, Scrubs is dead. I didn’t have high hopes when I heard the creator wanted to milk even more seasons out of the show after that many seasons and a picture-perfect “series finale”.

    In Late Night news, Ferguson can apparently beat Fallon even when their lead-ins are tied. That sure boosts his stock.

  • TSA

    Yeah, Scrubs is dead. I didn’t have high hopes when I heard the creator wanted to milk even more seasons out of the show after that many seasons and a picture-perfect “series finale”.

    In Late Night news, Ferguson can apparently beat Fallon even when their lead-ins are tied. That sure boosts his stock.

  • TSA

    Yeah, Scrubs is dead. I didn’t have high hopes when I heard the creator wanted to milk even more seasons out of the show after that many seasons and a picture-perfect “series finale”.

    In Late Night news, Ferguson can apparently beat Fallon even when their lead-ins are tied. That sure boosts his stock.

  • TSA

    Yeah, Scrubs is dead. I didn’t have high hopes when I heard the creator wanted to milk even more seasons out of the show after that many seasons and a picture-perfect “series finale”.

    In Late Night news, Ferguson can apparently beat Fallon even when their lead-ins are tied. That sure boosts his stock.

  • http://jaymii.wordpress.com/ Jaymii

    I’m sad for Scrubs. I wanted at least a season 10. Now my collection (that I haven’t got, but plan to in the new decade) will be full of cancellation-ness. I’d rather a perfect ending with 8 now!

  • http://jaymii.wordpress.com/ Jaymii

    I’m sad for Scrubs. I wanted at least a season 10. Now my collection (that I haven’t got, but plan to in the new decade) will be full of cancellation-ness. I’d rather a perfect ending with 8 now!

  • http://jaymii.wordpress.com/ Jaymii

    I’m sad for Scrubs. I wanted at least a season 10. Now my collection (that I haven’t got, but plan to in the new decade) will be full of cancellation-ness. I’d rather a perfect ending with 8 now!

  • http://jaymii.wordpress.com/ Jaymii

    I’m sad for Scrubs. I wanted at least a season 10. Now my collection (that I haven’t got, but plan to in the new decade) will be full of cancellation-ness. I’d rather a perfect ending with 8 now!

  • http://jaymii.wordpress.com Jaymii

    I’m sad for Scrubs. I wanted at least a season 10. Now my collection (that I haven’t got, but plan to in the new decade) will be full of cancellation-ness. I’d rather a perfect ending with 8 now!

  • Ted

    The show seems to have been watered down in recent episodes. I liked the Veridian Dynamics inhumane and sarcastic commercials during the episodes and I have seen none. It won’t keep my interest for too long.

  • Ted

    The show seems to have been watered down in recent episodes. I liked the Veridian Dynamics inhumane and sarcastic commercials during the episodes and I have seen none. It won’t keep my interest for too long.

  • Ted

    The show seems to have been watered down in recent episodes. I liked the Veridian Dynamics inhumane and sarcastic commercials during the episodes and I have seen none. It won’t keep my interest for too long.

  • Ted

    The show seems to have been watered down in recent episodes. I liked the Veridian Dynamics inhumane and sarcastic commercials during the episodes and I have seen none. It won’t keep my interest for too long.

  • Ted

    The show seems to have been watered down in recent episodes. I liked the Veridian Dynamics inhumane and sarcastic commercials during the episodes and I have seen none. It won’t keep my interest for too long.

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