Fringe didn’t do so hot =[. and it dropped a .3 in the second half hour. Such a good episode too!

The Deep End is really that bad? I guess this make Community look a lot better?

The Deep End is finished, as it seems. Private Practice figures are still good, although not as good as past weeks. Hopefully it can make a ratings comeback next week.

Supernatural was pre-empted for… football, IIRC, that’s why it’s so low…

Not used to seeing “Bones” in first place.

supernatural ratings are awfulfor its lead in!next season it should move to fridays at 9 with smallville!!
im kinda sad for the deep end!its an okay show! i wonder how it will perform in sundays after DHW!

Mentalist outperforming CSI again..

I’m quite surprised Surviving Survivor special didn’t do that well

Wow Vampire Diaries almost hit 2.0!

Last Nights Episode of Fringe was AMAZING… If people are watching Grey’s Anatomy over Fringe, There is something mentally wrong with them.

To Timotey Supernatural’s ratigns this season has been lacklustered. Yet again Vampire Diaries owns The CW. Last night was spectacular.

Supernatural dropped becaause last weeks episode was poor, but all those people who didnt bother to tune in last night missed one of the best episodes of the series! I’m a huge fan so I like all the episodes but last night was just brilliant! I feel sorry for all those people who missed out!

Is it just me or is Greys dropping by the week? And ABC really need to dump The Deep End and get a decent lead in for their medical dramas STAT!

Good for VD but in all fairness 8pm is a really weak hour!

[...] Source : TVByTheNumbers.Com [...]

Is that the first time Parks and Rec has outdone Community in the demo?

NBC Comedy Night Done Right deserves the ratings rise

Over all Thursday ratings are low with only Grey’s Anatomy hitting the 4.0 zone and that’s still low given that it usually crosses over 5.0

Too bad about the Deep End. It really has the potential to be a decent show, but there is too little focus on the interactions of the senior members of the firm and too much focus on the sexual escapades of the first-year associates. Really, the “whiz-snap” in last night’s episode took away from an otherwise engaging storyline and I found myself changing the channel after the first half-hour.

I’m predicting Bones to beat Greys for viewers within the next few episodes!

SN numbers are awful, since it was preempted for sports that means its numbers (normally) should fall even more with finals. Though VD numbers should also fall, but VD numbers start off good, so a drop wont be so bad for that show. This I beleive is the 2nd worst fast national score SN has had since it started (and that was when it returned after the writers strike and being off the air for 6 weeks).

Is that the first time Parks has beaten Community?

CSI’s still looking pretty soft there. It doesn’t seem to have very many years left in the tank.

Bones is the quiet little show that Fox plugs around its schedule and it always thrives. That’s pretty rare and amazing if you ask me.

ABC needs to dump the Deep End ASAP. It is dragging their whole lineup down. Why not try out Castle repeats to see how it does against Bones. They couldn’t do much worse!

Community is fantastic. You see what happens when NBC picks up Parks…people can commit. They should pick up Community and watch those ratings rise. Also nice to see a build from Community to Parks. That’s the way it ought to be.

Fringe is moving up week to week. That’s gotta be good.

Just noticed that VD has beaten The Deep End in 18-49! They are not that far behind total viewers wise. VD might catch up in viewers number as well, maybe. The Mentalist beating CSI in viewers. Interesting. ABC is still doing great in 18-49!

Actually Fringe held up fairly well from its earlier ratings. Last week it was up against all repeats and managed a 3.0. But two weeks ago, it pulled a 2.6 against all new episodes of The Office, CSI, Grey’s Anatomy, and 30 Rock. So it’s got a 2.65 average for both hours, a little better than 2 weeks ago (2.6 both hours). That’s just statistical noise though.

Remember, to start this season and through to December, Fringe was averaging around 2.1/2.2 with a nadir of 1.7 back in November and premiere episode of 3.0, now it’s risen half a ratings point from that average. AND it’s holding that rating.

The Deep End only has 3 episodes left tho (the 7th is an unaired pilot wont air) so i assume they’ll just air em all

Bill was VD pre-empted?

it’s pretty clear BETWIXT will be thursday 9 pm for the CW next season
plot: For three teenagers dark mystery has always lurked at the corner of the eyes and the edge of sleep. Beautiful Morgan D’Amici wakes in her trailer park home with dirt and blood under her fingernails. Paintings come alive under Ondine Mason’s violet-eyed gaze. Haunted runaway Nix Saint-Michael sees halos of light around people about to die. At a secret summer rave in the woods, the three teenagers learn of their true, changeling nature and their uncertain, intertwined destinies. Riveting, unflinching, beautiful, Betwixt shows a magic as complex and challenging as any ordinary reality.

ABC is still doing great in 18-49! – by that I mean the medical dramas.

what a great episode last night from fringe. it’s good to see it’s numbers holding steady with the big boys. i see a renewal in it’s not so distant future.

Well BB preempted SN I would assume it affected VD as well.

“If people are watching Grey’s Anatomy over Fringe, There is something mentally wrong with them.”

I could say the same thing about those who still watch “Two and Half Men” in spite of Charlie Sheen’s issues. Now I hear about a car crash involving this jerk.

Sigh…cue the theme.

“Men, Men, Men, Men, Menley, Men, Men, Men, Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeen.”

As for Grey its easier for viewers to hear about doctors talk about the sex filled lives than the oddies on Fringe.

I give CSI two more seasons. That’ll be near the 300 mark, and give them time to release the film whilst it’s still on air.

CSI is faltering a bit but I don’t think it will be cancelled yet. Interesting that The Mentalist is on next week while CSI is off due to the two hour premiere of Survivor and that interestinly, they are being swapped during The Winter Olympics with Mentalist at 9pm and CSI at 10pm which suggests that CBS is testing the waters.

Seems like Thursday is no longer Must See TV Night, that’s Sunday now.

Frankly, that Fringe was down that little vs. full competition is arguably surprising. Fringe’s ratings are still not worth their budget, but they are getting there. I still think Fringe is the best option for Mondays, should 24 not come back.

Ouch for 30 Rock, even paired with a completely new Office and the weakest GA ever it couldn’t hit 3.0.

And P&R over Community? Strange.

And just how long will ABC keep Deep End on? They’re unlikely to bring FF back early, so cue the GA repeats after next week?

Nice to see Grey’s and PP are still going strong. This season of PP has been better than that of Grey’s but last night’s episodes were both equally interesting.
Nice to see a rise in NBC’s comedies, although I only watch 30 Rock. Still think it’s possible to form an ABC comedy block (Scrubs/Ted) Thursdays @ 8 next season, to see how it will measure up with Parks and Community.

@ George 11:
The Deep end is NOT moving post-DH. It’s B&S’s spot, Castle is only taking it for a week. The Deep end will be canceled in 3 weeks.

And the reason Smallville is doing so bad it’s because it’s in its 9th season… Maybe that’s enough?

@Jasmine: Lackluster or not, it was still the CW’s 2nd scripted show. TVD and SPN are simply not compatible. In the first show, vampires bemoan their lost love, in the second show, they shoot zombies. Kinda like pairing up Gossip Girl and Sons of Anarchy.

I still think that the drop in ratings was mostly caused by pre-emption. From what I hear, it wasn’t football but some college basketball game? O.o It’ll go back up next week because Fringe is moving away from the slot, too.

I watched The Deep End because Survivor is pretty much the only CBS offering of which I’m not a fan. I enjoyed it, well written and even a few jokes. I actually found myself wishing there would be more than 7 episodes on the slate. Too little too late obviously, but it’s a nice filler for ABC in my opinion and does not deserve the spanking it gets on this board. Glad to see Mentalist back up and almost beating PP. Season demo average was 3.5 coming in, I’m confident it can get back to that mark with the Survivor 20 lead-in next week. It’s also below 15 million viewers two weeks in a row, I simply did not expect this nasty drop-off from last season. I am hoping the rumours of Mentalist and CSI swapping slots for the fall are true.

I didn’t watch anything at 9 but I heard some great things about last night’s Supernatural.

Who would have thought ABC would be counting down the days until Flash Forward came back? I think The Deep End is bringing down the entire ABC Thursday line up.

There may very well have been some local pre-emptions of CW shows (we didn’t get any specific information about them though).

However, assuming that those pre-emptions lowered the ratings you see above is jumping the gun, they could just as easily have increased them if the local show (say basketball) did better than the preliminary ratings shown above. You’ll just have to wait until the final ratings out later this afternoon to know for sure.

Parks Rise In Numbers = Rocks My Socks Off

“Bones” is getting some great viewership- but, the lack of “Survivor” competition definitely plays a role in that. I expect it to drop back once the new ‘Survivor” begins.

“Greys” really has declined steadily with the last several episodes. It’s not like its competition has gained a lot, so maybe viewers are not liking what they’re seeing.

Acey, “it’s a nice filler for ABC in my opinion and does not deserve the spanking it gets on this board. “

C’mon, it’s a new drama hour that did a 1.3 rating. If the Olympics didn’t start in a week, I think the likelihood that ABC would pull it from he schedule entirely for a summer burn off would be pretty good.

And while in some sense it “makes FlashForward look good”, in practice ABC will compare FF’s ratings with shows across its lineup, not just vs. this timeslot.

CONGRATULATIONS to The Office!

Only 0.4 behind Greys in the half hour. It won’t be long now…

@Jon: Interesting, while some of us thought the Mentalist / CSI switcheroo should have happened this season, I was expecting CBS to drag their heels on that move for another season. The Olympics experiment proves they are clearly contemplating it for next season already.

Bill

In the 5 years SN has aired its only increased (in finals) once when their was a preemption, so odds are the ratings should be lower based off of previous years data.

mswood, if you’ve been tracking it, I will take your word for it. My caution was drawing any conclusions as to the effect that any pre-emptions might have had.

P&R beat Community once or twice earlier this season. This is the first time in a long while though.

ABC should consider moving Ugly Betty back to Thursday for the remaining few episodes. There would certainly be some fans of Grey’s that would return to the show out of habit being that it spent 3 years in that timeslot. I’m sure it would pull at least higher than the 1.4 it is getting on WED… and certainly better than the 1.3 DeepEnd is getting. I mean… ouch.

interesting night.

Greys and PP are faultering, although i dont think the lead in from The Deep End is helping.

Bones has turned into a big hit. Fringe is exactly sitting on the fence, should b interesting to see what FOX does with it.

CW needs to put a new show behind VD, sorry SN fans, but SN has been around for sooo long, it can stand on its own. VD is the CW’s key to another hit, so they should use it wisley.

People also need to relax about CSI. It aint going anywhere. a 3.2 with over 14 million viewers is still plenty good for renewal.

NBC, well their thursday lineup doesnt totally blow, atleast everything is still hitting a 2 consistantly(excluding Leno) so NBC cant be too dissapointed in this night.

Greys hasnt been doing too well. Not sure if the Deep End is hurting it or not. ABC has to be a little worried. Hopefully it can bounce back maybe when Flash Forward returns.

Vampire Diaries is doing excellent for CW hitting 4 million viewers yet Supernatural keeps dropping. not very good and it will probably move to fridays next season.

Parks is even improving actually growing a tick from its lead-in.

Acey

Last nights SUPERNATURAL was just down right amazing! I admit that this season has had one too many not so great episodes but ‘The Song Remains The Same’ was the hands down one of the top 5 best episodes ever! I imagine it’ll be making quite a few ‘best episodes of TV in 2010′ lists! Next weeks episode ‘MY BLOODY VALENTINE’ promises to be just as good! Its nice to see the show get back on track!

I’m not sure whether ratings were affected by football or basketball or whatever but I would imagine Supernatural was down due to last weeks not so good episode, alot of people were on the message boards claiming they’d given up on the show! More fool them I say!

I’m a supernatural fan and even I haven’t really been pleased with this season.

It’s had it’s episodes sure, but it certainly isn’t as good as it was in seasons 2 and 3.

Cue dumont with a “Save The Deep End” post

I had not realized how young skewing Lost is when compared to Grey’s Anatomy.

@Amanda Up against a Grey’s titled “Valentine’s Day Massacre”

@bob Nobody’s worried about it being canceled, I don’t get that vibe here… the only place it’s going is 10 pm to match the offspring (though NY could move next year with CM2 coming)

Season high for Parks! Booyah! It actually beat out Community. Awesome episode.

“If people are watching Grey’s Anatomy over Fringe, There is something mentally wrong with them.”

Yes this condition will be covered in the next episode of House.
Foreman:”Her husband brought her in when she turned the channel to Greys Anatomy.”
House:”Why are you bringing this to me? A perfectly healthy 18-49 yr old woman wants to watch a medical drama? Wait….what did show did she change it from?”
Foreman:”A science-fiction program called Fringe”
House:”Get her an MRI stat.”

All in all a fairly weak performance across the board for the first night of sweeps.

SN if renewed (and I am cool either way) should be moved to Friday. After all its shelf life as a show is near it’s end. And the CW will need to develop a show to fit with VD (in some way) that can hopefully for the CW at least) hold its own against the competition of that hour.

Plus it would get me from watching VD.

Is this the first Season Supernatural has had to go against Fringe?

Maryland basketball was shown instead of Supernatural at my location in the DC area.

OMG!! VD had 4.01 million viewers(average, from 8pm – 8:30 and 8:30 – 9pm)! YAY! It did GREAT! Finally, an episode that jumps over 4 million viewers.

one did too many…..

Nice work “clueless” ABC drama development on your Fall 2009-2010 slate:

1- Eastwick
2- The Forgotten
3- The Deep End
4- “Flash Forward”
5- “V”

**Production was ‘HALTED” on Flash Forward and V…though the main cast are still under contract…the bulk of the crew looks for other work when this happens…and the studio where they shoot is collecting dust along with those expensive sets they built…and ya gotta still pay your rent on the studio space…so consider those two stiffs…Flash Forward and V…not long for this world.

Great night for NBC It will be better next week without Leno!

Kathy B

Yes this is the first year SN has to go against Fringe. But this year also marks a considerable decline in the amount of competition Grey’s & CSI have brought to the show (by a factor thats more then the increase competition that Fox is offering by a large margin).

I hope those ratings are good enough for a “Community” renewal because the show deserves it. It took a few episodes to find its groove, but now it’s hilarious every single week. Troy and Abed own the final tag!

Did anyone else have the episode synopsis of Community to be different than the actual episode? My synopsis said Jeff was going to be in a pottery class, but that wasn’t the case in the episode last night.

Great numbers again for bones. Annoying it is off air now for nearly 2 months

@Dario If by “better next week without Leno” you mean “better next month without Leno,” as the next three NBC Thursdays will be all Winter Olympic Primetime coverage.

Mentalist will not be facing the demo powerhouses Office and GA so what information could be learned on how Mentlaist would do at Thursdays at 9? None. The move is dumb.

@Dario, undoubtedly.

If you look at the numbers from 8-10, NBC was tied with CBS! I’m not expecting much from the Marriage Ref, but it will certainly help close the gap between NBC and CBS, anything will do better than Leno.

CP, yes, the synopsis was wrong. The actual episode was “Romantic Expressionism.” I’m not sure when the “Beginner Pottery” episode will be, as next week’s episode is supposed to be “Communication Studies.” I hope it’s not one of those things where they will be shown out of order.

Thursday has become so much *crappier* in ratings than just, like, a year ago. A single 4+?

VD is the most impressive at 8. Cancel Deep End already.
Bones>CSI, really?
I wonder how Parenthood, Celebrity Apprentice, and SVU back @10 will do…

@ DON…

It blows my mind how many people watch That Dry, Repetitive attempt at a sitcom… Two And a half men is in my opinion the worst sitcom on TV. As for the “Sex Filled Lives” in Greys… You can get that out of 90% of the shows on TV… Fox Finally airs a show that is Different and it doesn’t get the respect it deserves which Im fine with so long as it gets renewed. but i will be pissed if it gets cancelled because I think it will turn into one of the coolest shows ever made

“CW’s Vampire Diares was mixed vs. last week, down a tenth for adults 18-49 to a 1.8 rating”
No it was not down it did same..

LMAO AT WHOEVER SAID SMALLVILLE IS DOING BAD!!

Smallville is doing EXCELLETN for fridays.. And its getting the mid 2.5 million range BECAUSE it got moved to a friday.

MOVE The Vampire Diaries to fridays, and see how well it does! Haha..

The CW KNEW that Smallville was the strongest show on the CW, and wanted to see how it did on fridays. The results? It’s #3 on the CW in terms of ratings!Haha!!

The Vampire Diaries is doing alright, Smallville had 10 or 11 episodes above the 4 million range with each of them scoring high 1.7′s – 2.1′s.

The reason Supernatural is just doing bad is because the Smallville lead-in it had last year was what gave it it’s big ratings. The Vampire DIaries is the worst lead in ever!

@John the Mon Survivor 20 says hello.

@RyanWinters86

well said. if fringe were to get canned i’d pretty much say its a wrap for my television watching. the only other show i watch is the office, and i can catch that on hulu when im at the office.

first fox got rid of millenium, then firefly… 3 strikes and they’d be out.

Wow. P&R beat Community’s 18-49. That hasn’t happened for awhile.

Very good 4 fringe! and fox is the second network of the night!!!

The Office rocks I hope they get back to there funniest moments

Yeah i hate to say it. Because i have been a supernatural supporter since day one. But the show has lost some steam. And the writing is getting terrible. If not for the great acting of Jensen and Jared i would have stopped writing. I don’t think even they can save it. And i am happy for VD. I am loving the show and it is really good. Nina is a great young actress. I think she can become the next young star soon. If the show does well. Does anybody know Smallville’s numbers? It’s great that Vampire Diaries is the number one show on the network right?

FRINGE, with new episode competition, is still holding up fairly well vs. the Fall. Will they try moving it back to Mondays this Fall for a 13 episode last chance to prove itself? With LOST going away, FOX could even try sending it over the to ABC and use some LOST characters as guest stars. Now that Peter has the “glowing” and Olivia finally realized Peter is not of this world.. what will she do? I say she will jump his bones sooner rather than later.

Yeah i hate to say it. Because i have been a supernatural supporter since day one. But the show has lost some steam. And the writing is getting terrible. If not for the great acting of Jensen and Jared i would have stopped watching. I don’t think even they can save it. And i am happy for VD. I am loving the show and it is really good. Nina is a great young actress. I think she can become the next young star soon. If the show does well. Does anybody know Smallville’s numbers? It’s great that Vampire Diaries is the number one show on the network right?

DEEP END? That show is going off the deep end.

@Smallvilles Biggest Fan..Smallvile was average 1.3 18-49 last year, and the reason SPN isn’t retaining much from VD is because they aren’t compatible.

Fringe was great again and it was finally not a standalone episode so that’s very good news. I didn’t like the whole Peter/Olivia thing, if you’ve watched the show for the last two years, you would understand that they are like bro and sis. (Hopefully it ended with what she saw)

I mean, Peter even hooked up with her sister last year. Too weird but I love the show so whatever.

Ok john, but that was towards the end of the season.. ^^ Season 6 of Smallville (on the CW) just DESTROYED Vampire Diaries. Season 7 did better then season 8, so that also owned TVD. And season 8′s first twelve episodes average have been better then TVD’s.

I watched the first fifteen minutes of Fringes pilot a few months ago. It was alright, may buy Season 1′s DVD sometime.

It would be so nice if they would just cancel CSI considering how awful it’s gotten. I don’t see how those 14 million people stood watching it.

Great news for Fringe & Bones though!!

Community

And its about time Parks beat Community, Community isn’t bad but its too childish (reminds me of saved by the bell), and Parks is on the level of the office in its prime.

Nice to see the numbers increase for “Parks & Recreation.” It’s been very funny this season. I don’t know if they got different writers or if it was as simple as ditching that ‘pit’ storyline. The characters are developing.
Aziz Ansari is hilarious. I was very happy to read here that the show has been picked up for next year.

OK, so let’s hear it from all the “Parks” haters!

@Smallville guy, yes, but you also have to factor in that less people are watching Network TV than they used to. Plus, that was in the days when The CW could actually get a few shows to hit 2.0 18-49.

As someone who has rooted for Community I have to agree JaySin has a point. It has become too childish over time. It was better earlier on when they were more adult.

P&R gave NBC really good news. They renewed it, and now we can see that was a good descision!

Hooray for The Mentalist! Another good week ratings wise back up to 14.7 and the demo up to 3.3. It is interesting about the time switch to 9.00 but as those episodes are repeats it doesn’t really give any indication of how the show would do with new episodes and also if its not up against its normal competition.

Great episode as usual last night – very funny and entertaining. The Mentalist has to be one of the most consistently good shows there is, most shows have bad episodes but this one doesn’t. However, saying that I could watch Simon Baker just standing still for an hour and still enjoy it!

I’m surprised no one’s mentioned the fact that the Mentalist tied Private Practice in the last half hour. I think that’s much more important than how it does against it’s lead-in.

In fact, I think that’s huge when you consider PP started the season beating the Mentalist by almost a whole point (3.8 to 4.6: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/02/greys-practice-csi-mentalist-all-a-tick-up-in-broadcast-final-leno-show-down-a-tick/29326)

@RyanWintersd86:
“If people are watching Grey’s Anatomy over Fringe, There is something mentally wrong with them.”

Thanks! Hey, at least I know better than to randomly capitalize words. Mentally, I’ve got you beaten in that area.

Dario, correct you are, I will fix that.

How can people compare a show like smallville in its 9th season to a show like vampire Diaries thats has been on maybe 13 episodes it makes no sense. A new show compared to a show that has 9 years of fans that have watched it.

I disagree Alison, the ONLY good thing about Mentalist is that it didn’t set another series low, and is improving vs Private Practice. It’s still down from the season average and well down from last year.

@Lisa

“Thanks! Hey, at least I know better than to randomly capitalize words. Mentally, I’ve got you beaten in that area.”

those are the names of the shows… he wasn’t randomly capitalizing words, lol. i guess you proved his point.

@AL:

““Thanks! Hey, at least I know better than to randomly capitalize words. Mentally, I’ve got you beaten in that area.”

those are the names of the shows… he wasn’t randomly capitalizing words, lol. i guess you proved his point.”

“If people are watching Grey’s Anatomy over Fringe, [b]T[/b]here is something mentally wrong with them.”

If you look above, you can see he capitalised a tee were it didn’t need to be capitalised.

Acey – As you can tell I am a huge fan of The Mentalist and will always defend it.

It got the top ratings of the night – hardly a failure (and does so most weeks). Also throughout the series its ratings have consistently been between 14 (never below 14) and 16 million – add in the 3 millionish that DVR it and voila – 17-19 million!! The same viewing figures as last year!

OK, I have simplified it abit but you get my point – don’t forget the people who DVR it!

I agree with those in regards to Parks and Community. Parks has had a great second year, and I am a big fan of Community, I just hope it will get the same change Parks did. Are they the greatest shows ever? No. But they are entertaining shows I look forward to watching !!!

@Alison,

But then you’re comparing apples to oranges. People DVRd the show last year too, so the Live+7 from last year would still be higher than the Live+7 from this year.

Holly – yes, I see your point – hadn’t thought of that – but did as many people DVR it?

As a big fan I am like everyone on this site and don’t like to think that my favourite show is in trouble or likely to be cancelled. I know its not likely with The Mentalist this season but still you worry!

I’m not sure I understand the hoopla over Community & Parks. NBC still finished in 3rd during 8:00 hour and barely beat Vampire Diaries. I mean the numbers between Parks and Vampire are not that far off, yet everyone claims Parks is suddenly a “ratings winner”.

Really??? So 2.3 is now the bar for Parks? Has NBC sunk that low?

@Alison,

We haven’t gotten DVR numbers for a while, so it’s impossible to say for sure, but since it isn’t facing any stronger competition (weaker, actually), I don’t see any reason why significantly more people would be DVRing it now.

So 2.3 is now the bar for Parks? Has NBC sunk that low?

Yes.

Again, Smallville gets more viewers on Friday than Supernatural gets on Thursday.

GO SMALLVILLE!

Supernatural: Might be down…still #2 for the CW scripted for the season average though isn’t it? On paper it should pair well with TVD, but once you watch an episode of TVD. Of course that is assuming you can make it the entire episode…I literally had to hide my remote during the Pilot so I could make it through the first episode and give it a fair chance. I assume the cheesy fog and bats crap has stuck around…so lame.

If TVD got in a fight with the Twilight saga it would be 3 minutes of girly hair pulling followed by a “lets be friends now” discussion over chocolate ice cream. What is a better device to have in such a fight? Twilight vampires have the power to sparkle in the sunlight(yeah, seriously, if you dont know anything about Twilight…the freaking vampires sparkle in sunlight!). The Vampire Diaries bring fog machines and a reminder in each script handed to Ian Somerhalder with the words “OVER ACT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT YOU COME ACROSS AS MENTALLY RETARDED AND DISCREDIT YOUR ENTIRE ACTING CAREER IN RETROSPECT” Watching him sink to the level the show seems to desire was absolutely cringe worthy. I asked my roommate several times in the first episode “Why is Boone from Lost acting like a complete douche chill?” I have not been back for another episode and wont unless someone can assure me that these things have been toned down or eliminated.

While they are not compatible its still not as drastic of a pairing as it had in Season 1 following Gilmore Girls(not bashing this brilliant show, just saying that the two shows were very different) and the season where they paired 7th Heaven with Angel. That has to be the dumbest schedule pairing in the history of ever.

There are at least 3 to 4 other shows on the CW that would have to get the axe before I can see them even think about not asking for a 6th season. Only having 2.5 cast members (Metallicar is the .5) cant hurt when looking at possible renewal from a a cost perspective. If they do at least we know that the story line will be wrapped up and given a proper ending with its planned 5 season arc being completed.

Easily the most underrated scifi based show on television.

The Mentalist although down is still beating CSI in the ratings and demos and and is the highest rated 10pm show but I think it’s on too late and I imagine many are recording it. It also had the advantage of having a stronger lead in of NCIS whereas CSI while not weak is no where near as compatible as NCIS and The Mentalist but I understand they did it to give NCIS LA a boost.

I still think The Mentalist will move to 9pm with CSI at 10pm, I think the experiment with the repeats in the different slots will be interesting to see. They could try it with a new episode to test the water.

Holly – There is one very significant reason why more people are DVRing this year than last – its on an hour later. This makes a big difference + its up against different shows than last year as its on a different night.

@Alison,

My guess is that the later hour is balanced out by the weaker competition.

By the way, don’t mistake any of this as me saying that The Mentalist isn’t doing well or is in trouble. While it may be down from last year at this time, it is doing just fine and in absolutely no danger of cancelation with these ratings.

Community, The Office & 30 Rock all OWNED it last night. Didn’t watch Parks & Rec.

Any rating info on the Demetri Martin premiere on Comedy Central? BRUCE THE FUNNY DOG! Best show of the night.

What more does Bones need to do to get a little media respect? Even here on a site that reports Nielsen ratings the title of this post doesn’t even mention Bones has almost caught up with Grey’s in total viewers. They aren’t in the same time slot but still I dont think anyone would have believe you 3 years ago if you told them this would be possible in the future.

Id like to see other shows pull off that kind of ratings stability while getting juggled from every time slot possible on FOX. I can’t say that I have seen many people say that Bones is their favorite show, but I do know a ton of people who really enjoy it.

@Acey yes but Greys will still be sh#t! They can give it a cool title to dress it up but the writing for that show is just awful! I think Greys will drop again next week and Supernatural will go back up to a 1.2! I really dont think ratings make that much of a difference to Supernatural or Smallville, both have good DVD sales are syndicated so they’re making money, have international following and WILL be renewed for next season!

I agree Vampire Diaries is a terrible lead in for Supernatural! SPN isnt retaining the female audience from VD! Smallville was a much better fit and they should pair the two together next season, whether on Friday or some other day! VD should be pushed to 9pm and the potential new show BETWIXT should go in at 8pm!

I realize the overnight post is not the place to post this, but E!Online is reporting that Chris Meloni is leaving SVU. Although it is unclear if they are talking about at the end of THIS season, since that’s what the title indicates, or if they are talking about the end of next season (since the article makes reference to him staying on the show for 12 years – it is currently in its 11th season).

Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens with SVU. I know I’ll still watch the show as long as Mariska is on it…

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b165826_this_just_in_this_christopher_melonis.html

How long can they keep The Deep End on the air with ratings/trends like that?

Community had its best episode of the season last night. It may have been beaten in a major demo by Parks & Recreation but Community had more total viewers. Community had better be renewed. Its the best show on the NBC Thursday night lineup.

@Gleebo

I like “Bones”. I think the reason why this site doesn’t mention it very much is because it’s not in danger of being canceled and therefore doesn’t generate much lively debate around here.

Supernatural is the best show on tv I hate it had a big hurt in the ratings. I dont mind Fringe or The Office but CSI is to old and Grey’s is just stupid.

How long can they keep The Deep End on the air with ratings/trends like that?

I’m guessing they keep it through the Olympics just as burn-off.

Bones was moved to Thursday night to establish an entrance into the Thursday night slaughter fest. Clearly, it’s accomplished its mission. Bones is already renewed for another season, so there is virtually no drama in discussing it.

Unless…

We consider a time slot change for Bones. Move Bones to the Thursday night at 9 slot, possibly giving it Lie to Me or Glee as a lead in, or launching a new show at 8. Sure, it’s a tough hour, particularly for a middle aged show like Bones. But the competition is getting weaker and Bones fans have a proven record of following their show.

I don’t think this action is really likely, but it should be good for some debate.

@Bobby

At least we know you’re not a network publicist. If anyone at a network suggested canceling a net’s highest rated show which has extreme growth potential, they’d be summarily fired.

Or possibly promoted at NBC.

30 Rock ruined Jay Leno

Supernatural is still a great show. However, as much as I love Vampire Diaries, I don’t think the two shows are compatible. This view is with and without preemptions. SV & SN should pair up again next fall. They were good for one another. Let Vampire attach to a new show and jumpstart that program. Newer shows have a much higher chance of building viewers than older programs (NCIS & Bones are rare cases). Lastly, I hope SN comes back next year. It’s a great show. Maybe that should add some new characters. I like the angel/demon storyline, but I think it needs to end this May.

The problem with Fringe is that the writers keep going away from the main storyline. Sure, they brought the main storyline back for the final winter break episode, but how likely are they to pick up with that storyline and run with it for any length of time when they come back from the break?

As for Bones, IMO, the writing is terrible, but for some reason people still watch the show. I haven’t liked the writing since Zach was given the boot. If they were going to get rid of anyone, it should have been Angela.

I don’t understand why so many are anxious for The Deep End to be canceled. There’s only 3 more episodes anyway, can’t people wait that long?

Glad to see both Bones anf Fringe doing well. Fringe has seemed to grow since the holiday break, hopefully the numbers continue to grow. The DVR numbers should be doing well also. By the way what ever happened to the DVR numbers are they not releasing it anymore ?

So happy Survivor is coming back next week. Can’t wait for this season, despite some bad chooses on the castaways.

Great numbers by NBC comedies, and the good thing is that they deserve it. And Jay Leno is saying goodbye to the prime time really quietly – which is a good thing.

Hooray for The Mentaist! I am thrilled it is doing so well on Thursday nights. True I would rather see it back on Tuesday’s at 9PM however I understand why CBS changed it to Thursday nights at 10PM.

Did you know that Entertainment Weekly posted in their 12-18-09 issue that The Mentalist was the HIGHEST RATED DVR PROGRAM OF THE 2009 TV SEASON TO DATE!!! Can’t get much better than that!

To be honest I would follow Simon Baker and The Mentalist no matter when CBS airs the show. I just can’t get enough of this series and that Simon Baker gets me every time with his charm and his smile!!

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@Judy,

Do that have that story online or just in the print magazine?

The Mentalist was typically near (but never at) the top of the weekly adults 18-49 ratings added via DVR viewing, but I never bothered calculating the average viewership addition via DVR. It would not startle me if it was the #1 show for average viewership added via DVR.

Finals are in, and P&R stayed at 2.3, tied for a 19-episode high. Only the first two episodes of the series did better (3.0, 2.5).

For those that care, Community bumped up to a 2.3

I can corroborate Judy’s mention of the Entertainment Weekly’s chart it goes –

The DVR Top 30 DVR Viewers Percentage bump from DVR viewing

1.The Mentalist 2.97 19.1
2.Greys Anatomy 2.93 19.6
3.House 2.52 17.6

You get the idea (sorry not willing to type out all the top 30!) Its a really interesting article but I don’t think its online.

Holly, I read it in the printed 12-18-09 issue of Entertainment Weekly magazine. I kept the article titled “FALL TV WINNERS AND LOSERS ACCORDING TO YOUR DVR” It stated “This season’s overall DVR champ is regular ratings giant ‘The Mentalist’, which earns an additional 2.97 million viewers–a 19.1 percent bump, for a total audience of 18.52 million.”

Oh sorry, it didn’t type out right 2.97, 2.93 and 2.52 are the DVR viewers and the other numbers are the percentage bump from DVR viewing.

Alison, thanks for including those numbers. They make sense. Grey’s & House were typically the top two shows for added adults 18-49 ratings via DVR last fall.

Best episode of Fringe this season, just wish FOX would move it back to Tuesdays where it did so much better :/

That’s OK Bill, it then went –

4. CSI 2.19,14.0
5. V 2.05,17.9
6. NCIS 1.97,9.5
7. Criminal Minds 1.95,14.0
8. The Office 1.93,23.5
9. The Big Bang Theory 1.90,14.6
10.Fringe 1.87, 32.6

OK, had enough now!!

Really good for Vampire Diaries! Not so good for Supernatural though. It looks like if it has another season left it will be paired with Smallville on Friday Nights.

Bones and Fringe are good together even though Bones gets more total viewers.

Good for Community! I love that show!

Supernatural was amazing last night the interaction between the boys and Mary near the end of the episode was great. Sam getting to tell John all that stuff but not having John know it was him he was talking about was an impactful moment. Then Michael telling Dean that it is in his blood and that is why he can not escape it. If you are a fan of Supernatural go find it online. This was easily one of their best episodes ever. With the way the ratings are looking Kripke will get his wish and end the show after season 5. Anyway I am happy for Bones it is a great show.

Interesting that out of the top 10 of the ‘highest rated DVR program of the 2009 TV season to date’ shows, five of those shows were on CBS. Seems like those ‘old’ folks watching CBS knows how to use that DVR.

Those DVR numbers don’t surprise me. A bit biased I am, but I’m truly of the belief that Criminal Minds is the best show on broadcast TV and The Mentalist is a close second. Can’t wait for CM2.

Well unless there 18-49, it’s almost useless.
Nice for Fringe, people slowly finding there way back to show.
I don’t see the Mentalist doing any better at 9pm up against tougher compeitition. But CSI is slowing down without William Peterson.

RViewer, no surprise there. The scripted shows with the highest Live+Same Day viewership (CBS) tend to be the most watched on DVR (in Live+7 day viewership).

The scripted shows with the highest 18-49 Live+Same Day ratings (Grey’s, House, etc.) tend to be the most watched by adults 18-49 on DVR.

Sports shows are DVR viewed at a low rate, as typically are unscripted shows and repeats.

@ Al…. Exactly. If there is no Fringe, it is just The office and Seinfeld reruns for me.

@ Moose… I do agree.. A one off episode here or there is ok but the writers do stray away from the storyline a lot. but I think like last season they are gonna end the season with a bunch of important episodes.

I hear you Ace, I feel The Mentalist is the best show on TV and Criminal Minds is a close second. Looks like we have similar taste in shows we favor.

Thanks Judy and Alison. We haven’t gotten the DVR numbers here recently.

“If people are watching Grey’s Anatomy over Fringe, There is something mentally wrong with them.”

Yes this condition will be covered in the next episode of House.
Foreman:”Her husband brought her in when she turned the channel to Greys Anatomy.”
House:”Why are you bringing this to me? A perfectly healthy 18-49 yr old woman wants to watch a medical drama? Wait….what did show did she change it from?”
Foreman:”A science-fiction program called Fringe”
House:”Get her an MRI stat.”

LOL!!!!!

It’s interesting that CSI increased viewership in the second half hour; the mentalist dropped somewhat. For a show that has gone thru so many cast changes, CSI is doing fine. They can rejuvenate their base at any time by bringing Willie Pete back. It’s holding its own with Fishburne in the fold and with the success of the “Dr Ray” crossovers across all of the CSIs last fall during sweeps, they are just fine.

I always laugh when I come in here and some people are predicting that CSI will be cancelled. Granted, CSI isnt the powerhouse it once was(but then again, what 10 year old is?) but it is still one of the Top Ranked shows on Tv(currently in the Top 10 for season to date). So Calm Down People because CSI is still on for a few more years, has alot of life left in it. In Fact, last nights episode was one of the better ones of the season.

Bones seems to be gaining viewers this season.

Grey’s is beginning to show its age, I stopped watching that show last season.

GO THE OFFICE!

Although I find it pretty sad The Deep End is getting beat by CW in the demo.

It’s nice to see NBC at least beating univision. LOL

The CW would have beaten Univision, had Supernatural’s ratings stayed the same as last week.

@Tom,

I don’t think CSI is going to get canceled, but it’s gotten weak enough that I’m not so sure it will keep its timeslot next season.

This may sound a bit premature, but I think CSI could last another 4-5 seasons. I think Fishburne is already contracted to do the show 5 seasons along with his production deal with CBS.

The question is whether the cast who have been with the show since Day 1 want to stay that long. Marg Helgenberger is 52 and IMO is very sexy for her age, but I can’t see her staying on the show pushing 60. She may stay 1-2 more seasons max. The rest of the cast is already pushing 40 or in their 40′s, so I think if CBS wants the show to last longer, they seriously need to think about making it younger.

When FlashForward returns in late March, I really don’t think it can do any better than 3rd place in the 8pm timeslot. Bones is rock solid and Survivor will get it’s core audience back. Ever since FF premiered to big numbers, the timeslot has been very problematic for ABC even now with The Deep End.

BTW, the Hollywood Reporter reported that David S. Goyer has now left FlashForward to focus on writing and directing feature films. Now they will be on their 3rd showrunner in 1 TV season. When was the last time a show went through so much creative problems? I recall Commander in Chief went through 3 showrunners in it’s 1st season and then got cancelled.

In order to get the ACTUAL ratings, you should also compare download amounts of those episodes from torrent-rapidshare-like resources as well Both the original/translated rips…

I think since The Deep End is doing so so so so terribly in the 8 pm timeslot. I think this helped flashforward a lot! I mean ABC is having a big issue with this timeslot. UB did decent and kept declining, and eventually got moved. flashforward didn’t do terrible until the last couple before the show took a break and now with The Deep End, and don’t forget when they tried Samantha Who? and In The Motherhood in that slot. So I think that if ABC really doesn’t think any new shows can do good in this timeslot and FF returns with at least a 2.5 then I think it will get renewed.

anybody else annoyed by the “revolving-door” of interns on bones? i liked the guy from avatar…but he’s not on anymore

I agree, great Supernatural ep (back to the main arc- with a vengeance!), pity so many missed out on some great scripting.

I don’t favor the idea of Castle competing against Bones. Those two, I believe, appeal to the same demographic such that those who watch Bones are likely to watch Castle. It would be terrible if fans of both shows would have to choose one over the other. Plus I have a strong feeling that Castle will lose on this one.

Awww, no Bones for two months, and after tonight’s episode Castle won’t have new episodes until March. That’s awful. Well, that just means Mondays and Thursdays will be my new happy hour nights. Hehe!

@Moose – I like all the characters in Bones, and I’d hate to see any character get axed, but I agree Angela should’ve been the given the boot. That’s to say, if the Jeffersonian has to lay off an employee, Angela indubitably should be it. I believe her role as Bones’ best friend saved her.

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