This makes me very sad. What are the chances of SyFy actually sticking it on another day? Certain types of scifi can work on a Friday but it seems like this isn’t one of them.

This makes me very sad. What are the chances of SyFy actually sticking it on another day? Certain types of scifi can work on a Friday but it seems like this isn’t one of them.

I really think they were caught in a sticky situation with promoting the show – if you promote it as a BSG spinoff, then you lose viewers who aren’t going to watch it over the BSG connection. But by ignoring the BSG connection entirely in advertising, you may lose the people who would have watched it if they didn’t catch that it was a BSG spinoff?

I’m just disappointed – the show’s really good. I hate to play fan bingo and say “Maybe on a different night?” but, screw it. Fan bingo!

I really think they were caught in a sticky situation with promoting the show – if you promote it as a BSG spinoff, then you lose viewers who aren’t going to watch it over the BSG connection. But by ignoring the BSG connection entirely in advertising, you may lose the people who would have watched it if they didn’t catch that it was a BSG spinoff?

I’m just disappointed – the show’s really good. I hate to play fan bingo and say “Maybe on a different night?” but, screw it. Fan bingo!

I believe part of the problem is the fault of Syfy programming, not having a good lead-in show before it, showing a repeat of the previous episode at 7pm CT before showing the new episode at 8pm CT.

I believe part of the problem is the fault of Syfy programming, not having a good lead-in show before it, showing a repeat of the previous episode at 7pm CT before showing the new episode at 8pm CT.

When should we start to worry? Not sure what is good or bad when it comes to cable-shows

When should we start to worry? Not sure what is good or bad when it comes to cable-shows

Needs to be renamed as “Cancelled!”

Needs to be renamed as “Cancelled!”

I really wanted to like this show. I watch intently, but just can’t buy into the premise and how they are using a sense of random happenstance to forward the plot.

I’m giving it one more week, but I think that I have pretty much made up my mind that this show is going nowhere, good.

Ronald D. Moore defined the problem, and he thought he was defining the answer. He said that BSG was targeted toward a male audience and they wanted to get away from that with Caprica.

Well, they have succeeded and getting rid of the male audience…

I really wanted to like this show. I watch intently, but just can’t buy into the premise and how they are using a sense of random happenstance to forward the plot.

I’m giving it one more week, but I think that I have pretty much made up my mind that this show is going nowhere, good.

Ronald D. Moore defined the problem, and he thought he was defining the answer. He said that BSG was targeted toward a male audience and they wanted to get away from that with Caprica.

Well, they have succeeded and getting rid of the male audience…

@Melbye – This is bad. Really, really, really bad.

That said Galactica always made a lot of it’s money off Digital and DVD sales. I have to think SyFy is going to try a half season DVD release and see what market exists before killing it. Which in turn means the show will get a full first season no matter what.

But unless the DVD is a blockbuster I can’t see it surviving with these numbers. Which brings up a more interesting question. This is the second traditional SciFi show that’s floundered on the SyFy network this season. So are the shows just bad or has SyFy chased away some of it’s traditional audience?

@Melbye – This is bad. Really, really, really bad.

That said Galactica always made a lot of it’s money off Digital and DVD sales. I have to think SyFy is going to try a half season DVD release and see what market exists before killing it. Which in turn means the show will get a full first season no matter what.

But unless the DVD is a blockbuster I can’t see it surviving with these numbers. Which brings up a more interesting question. This is the second traditional SciFi show that’s floundered on the SyFy network this season. So are the shows just bad or has SyFy chased away some of it’s traditional audience?

Question is what numbers Syfy support? I don’t think they are pleased at all.

Question is what numbers Syfy support? I don’t think they are pleased at all.

I’ve watched three episodes now and that’s enough. I’m not watching any more because I think the show is piss-poor. Does that mean I’m “wrong” while people who like it are “right?” Or vice-versa? Of course not. People like different things and that’s fine. But a show can do poorly because most people don’t like it. There’s no conspiracy theory there.

I’ve watched three episodes now and that’s enough. I’m not watching any more because I think the show is piss-poor. Does that mean I’m “wrong” while people who like it are “right?” Or vice-versa? Of course not. People like different things and that’s fine. But a show can do poorly because most people don’t like it. There’s no conspiracy theory there.

Prequels always seem to have a built in problem and no matter how well done this show is, it’s got the prequel disease. I honestly don’t think moving it to another night is going to help. It’s a well acted and the production values are very nice but it’s dense and relationship and philosophically heavy. That kind of thing sort of screams ‘niche’ show, IMO. Still, it may be a vanity show for the network so it could drop pretty low in the ratings? Is it still getting good reviews?

Maybe they should try pairing it up with BSG reruns? That might make for a good Friday night block.

Prequels always seem to have a built in problem and no matter how well done this show is, it’s got the prequel disease. I honestly don’t think moving it to another night is going to help. It’s a well acted and the production values are very nice but it’s dense and relationship and philosophically heavy. That kind of thing sort of screams ‘niche’ show, IMO. Still, it may be a vanity show for the network so it could drop pretty low in the ratings? Is it still getting good reviews?

Maybe they should try pairing it up with BSG reruns? That might make for a good Friday night block.

I’ve watched all three episodes and it’s just not very good (poor characters, dialogue and plot) I won’t be watching any further episodes. And for those that are, with these numbers, enjoy it while you can.

I’ve watched all three episodes and it’s just not very good (poor characters, dialogue and plot) I won’t be watching any further episodes. And for those that are, with these numbers, enjoy it while you can.

My problem with the show is that they took the incredibly shallow religious conflict from BSG and made it a (more) major focus of the show without actually giving it any more depth.

My problem with the show is that they took the incredibly shallow religious conflict from BSG and made it a (more) major focus of the show without actually giving it any more depth.

Please don’t tell me I watched BSG in its entirety in the span of one week just for the prequel that piqued my interest in BSG to be canceled. >_< I really do like Caprica. I can't really specify why, I just do. Although I gotta ask: if they were aiming for a female demographic, then why are all of the main characters male? I guess it must just be because Caprica is supposed to be set in a simpler time than BSG, but still…

Ah well. You'd think I'd have gotten used to the fact that any show that I get invested in almost immediately gets canceled. I guess Dollhouse has taught me nothing.

Please don’t tell me I watched BSG in its entirety in the span of one week just for the prequel that piqued my interest in BSG to be canceled. >_< I really do like Caprica. I can't really specify why, I just do. Although I gotta ask: if they were aiming for a female demographic, then why are all of the main characters male? I guess it must just be because Caprica is supposed to be set in a simpler time than BSG, but still…

Ah well. You'd think I'd have gotten used to the fact that any show that I get invested in almost immediately gets canceled. I guess Dollhouse has taught me nothing.

I was disappointed, was never a fan of the original 1970. Friday use to be must see TV, SyFy or it should go back Sci-Fi. There are other good shows on cable now. I signed up for Sraz so I tried to watch Spartacus, but that show is loosing me the only high point is seeing Lucy Lawless naked. Graphic sex talk and bloody violence are all ready getting old.

I was disappointed, was never a fan of the original 1970. Friday use to be must see TV, SyFy or it should go back Sci-Fi. There are other good shows on cable now. I signed up for Sraz so I tried to watch Spartacus, but that show is loosing me the only high point is seeing Lucy Lawless naked. Graphic sex talk and bloody violence are all ready getting old.

Really sad but I’m not going to lose hope. I never watched BSG or any other SciFi show, but am really loving Caprica so far. My favorite new show.

Really sad but I’m not going to lose hope. I never watched BSG or any other SciFi show, but am really loving Caprica so far. My favorite new show.

*Channeling SGU haters*
Caprica is crap. It’s a soap opera. Where’s the space fights? Six is better than Sister Clarice. Baltar is better than Stoltz’s character. Bill Adama is better than Joseph Adama. Starbuck is better than Zoe…

*Channeling SGU haters*
Caprica is crap. It’s a soap opera. Where’s the space fights? Six is better than Sister Clarice. Baltar is better than Stoltz’s character. Bill Adama is better than Joseph Adama. Starbuck is better than Zoe…

I love Caprica! such a great show and a great prequel to BSG. I hope they at least do this entire season well because syfy has already given them the full season pickup. I hope it ends well too – not with some cliffhanger that they won’t be able to finish

I love Caprica! such a great show and a great prequel to BSG. I hope they at least do this entire season well because syfy has already given them the full season pickup. I hope it ends well too – not with some cliffhanger that they won’t be able to finish

And remember, caprica is a cheap show to produce for syfy so i guess that it has that going for it. It also probably gets huge dvr playback, online viewing, etc. where are the pilot dvr numbers??!

And remember, caprica is a cheap show to produce for syfy so i guess that it has that going for it. It also probably gets huge dvr playback, online viewing, etc. where are the pilot dvr numbers??!

Shea, what would give you the idea that Caprica is a cheap show for Syfy to produce?

Ghost Hunters is a cheap show for Syfy to produce, by comparsion Carprica is really, really, really expensive.

Shea, what would give you the idea that Caprica is a cheap show for Syfy to produce?

Ghost Hunters is a cheap show for Syfy to produce, by comparsion Carprica is really, really, really expensive.

Hey Robert,

Doesn’t it seem like the cheaper shows do better on SyFy than the more expensive ones? Isn’t that kinda interesting? lol.

Hey Robert,

Doesn’t it seem like the cheaper shows do better on SyFy than the more expensive ones? Isn’t that kinda interesting? lol.

The struggles of this and Archer are deeply depressing

The struggles of this and Archer are deeply depressing

Ever since they cancelled Atlantis I find nothing much of interest on the SyFy channel.
Eureka and Wharehouse 13 are kind of entertaining though, I watch them when I remember.

Ever since they cancelled Atlantis I find nothing much of interest on the SyFy channel.
Eureka and Wharehouse 13 are kind of entertaining though, I watch them when I remember.

I am enjoying the show. We cannot judge a show just on its beginning – it’s not fair on Caprica or any other series. I believe we need to watch more episodes, dive into the story and then, after mid-season have an idea of how it’s going to turn out. I didn’t get so involved in BSG on its initial episodes. It was only after its mid-Season that I really got hooked on it – that’s how it works.
Caprica’s pilot (launched last year) was simply fantastic. And please, let’s not compare to BSG… these are 2 differents stories, separated on different timelines. Like Star Wars first trilogy is separated from second trilogy in timelines.

I am enjoying the show. We cannot judge a show just on its beginning – it’s not fair on Caprica or any other series. I believe we need to watch more episodes, dive into the story and then, after mid-season have an idea of how it’s going to turn out. I didn’t get so involved in BSG on its initial episodes. It was only after its mid-Season that I really got hooked on it – that’s how it works.
Caprica’s pilot (launched last year) was simply fantastic. And please, let’s not compare to BSG… these are 2 differents stories, separated on different timelines. Like Star Wars first trilogy is separated from second trilogy in timelines.

Dammit. Now I want to watch Swamp Loggers ..

Personally don’t care for the soapy Caprica. Lots of talk and the conflicts seem … illogical.

SyFy wasn’t satisfied being SciFi , didn’t appreciate its SciFi audience, and has been steadily alienating them. You reap what you sow.

Dammit. Now I want to watch Swamp Loggers ..

Personally don’t care for the soapy Caprica. Lots of talk and the conflicts seem … illogical.

SyFy wasn’t satisfied being SciFi , didn’t appreciate its SciFi audience, and has been steadily alienating them. You reap what you sow.

It’s sad to see how much SyFy has screwed up their Friday line-up. When BSG ran along with the two Stargate shows, everything was okay. Then they were slit up and canceled one by one and now they don’t have a strong SciFiFriday. They paired a half-season of SGU with part of a 13-episode season of Sanctuary, then left Caprica alone. It was stupid.

And they’re gonna have Merlin as a lead-in for SGU…Seriously?!

Caprica will get a complete season, it’s way to high profile, Star Gate was smart, by making their show take place on a spaceship it ensured that SciFi would at least keep it for a year or so (they have always had some sort of original SciFi Show that was space based)

It’s sad to see how much SyFy has screwed up their Friday line-up. When BSG ran along with the two Stargate shows, everything was okay. Then they were slit up and canceled one by one and now they don’t have a strong SciFiFriday. They paired a half-season of SGU with part of a 13-episode season of Sanctuary, then left Caprica alone. It was stupid.

And they’re gonna have Merlin as a lead-in for SGU…Seriously?!

Caprica will get a complete season, it’s way to high profile, Star Gate was smart, by making their show take place on a spaceship it ensured that SciFi would at least keep it for a year or so (they have always had some sort of original SciFi Show that was space based)

I won’t make excuses for the show, but I will say that this makes me sad.

I won’t make excuses for the show, but I will say that this makes me sad.

They need to fix whatever the problem with the show is – it’s suffering the same problem JERICHO did – first couple of episodes were good,then the plot draged for a couple of episodes and then it started to get a better pace.

Let’s hope things start picking up for CAPRICA the next couple of shows.

They need to fix whatever the problem with the show is – it’s suffering the same problem JERICHO did – first couple of episodes were good,then the plot draged for a couple of episodes and then it started to get a better pace.

Let’s hope things start picking up for CAPRICA the next couple of shows.

The best thing ever on SYFY is SAW’s 1-3. 2nd: Final Destination 1-3. It’s just thst kind of channel. If I ever decided to buy DVD’s ( already obsolete supposedly) I’d never watch it. They zigged when they should have zagged. Should have emphasized horror reruns and thry to come up with a Nightmare on Elm Street: The Series-type show. And I actually am sorta fond of Eureka. I’ll watch it whwn it comes on again.

The best thing ever on SYFY is SAW’s 1-3. 2nd: Final Destination 1-3. It’s just thst kind of channel. If I ever decided to buy DVD’s ( already obsolete supposedly) I’d never watch it. They zigged when they should have zagged. Should have emphasized horror reruns and thry to come up with a Nightmare on Elm Street: The Series-type show. And I actually am sorta fond of Eureka. I’ll watch it whwn it comes on again.

I think the problem with maintaining viewers is that the show seems to be moving very very slowly which I think is hard for the casual viewer to quickly buy in to.

I like the show and the lead actors. I hope can bring people around before it is too late.

I think the problem with maintaining viewers is that the show seems to be moving very very slowly which I think is hard for the casual viewer to quickly buy in to.

I like the show and the lead actors. I hope can bring people around before it is too late.

Don’t forget, Caprica is Syfy’s attempt to keep that more ‘upscale’ audience they got with BSG, you know, the ones who don’t watch scifi? (regardless of the provocative poster for the show )

I wonder if they’re getting that audience? Do we know what the gender breakdown is? Is the 18-49 male or female? I’m kind of guessing it’s more female for the 25-54 crowd. It’s like Caprica is their ‘grown up show’ and Eureka and W13 are their ‘family shows’ and SGU is, well I’m not quite sure yet. The network did seem to indicate they were trying to become more well rounded, Saturday nights aside. LOL

Don’t forget, Caprica is Syfy’s attempt to keep that more ‘upscale’ audience they got with BSG, you know, the ones who don’t watch scifi? (regardless of the provocative poster for the show )

I wonder if they’re getting that audience? Do we know what the gender breakdown is? Is the 18-49 male or female? I’m kind of guessing it’s more female for the 25-54 crowd. It’s like Caprica is their ‘grown up show’ and Eureka and W13 are their ‘family shows’ and SGU is, well I’m not quite sure yet. The network did seem to indicate they were trying to become more well rounded, Saturday nights aside. LOL

KB, It is fair to judge any type of fiction by its beginning. It doesn’t have to be at its peak after 3 chapters (shows rarely are), but it sure as heck has to have grabbed the core of its audience. There’s no excuse not to. Why should anyone spend valuable time gambling that something will get better, even if it eventually does?

KB, It is fair to judge any type of fiction by its beginning. It doesn’t have to be at its peak after 3 chapters (shows rarely are), but it sure as heck has to have grabbed the core of its audience. There’s no excuse not to. Why should anyone spend valuable time gambling that something will get better, even if it eventually does?

First…….I am committed to watch this show as long as it is on.

Having said that, here is the problem, the suits at the Syfy channel have got to make a decision as to WHO…that is right WHO they want as an audience for the channel. If they do not find out within themselves WHO they desire to reach then they are destined to fail in most everything they do that is NEW…… Granted there will be few that hang on in hopes the suits will actually program their channel with the genre they CLAIMED to be putting on their air. Caprica is NOT, NOT, NOT….. science fiction….it is another soap opera ..(I am the odd duck here because I like it)…..The suits are doing the same thing with Caprica they have done with Stargate Universe…….another soap opera. The problem Syfy is not the Soap Opera Channel so the folks that are looking for Soap Operas are not looking to SYFY for their programming. Having said that if Syfy will start promoting their Soap operas as soap operas and to the folks that like soap operas and continue LONG ENOUGH to get the audience that will watch soap operas eventually an audience will come to their channel. Of course the core audience they already have will also thin out and go away.

Syfy’s suits are the problem. They need to make up their minds and then program the channel.

The other immediate problem is this is a dead time of year for the channel and without a strong original episode of a show with an identity and a following as a lead in Caprica, not having a following and not having an identity is at a disadvantage. No one really knows what the show is.? The suits do not know what the show is so how is someone that never heard of it going to know?

First…….I am committed to watch this show as long as it is on.

Having said that, here is the problem, the suits at the Syfy channel have got to make a decision as to WHO…that is right WHO they want as an audience for the channel. If they do not find out within themselves WHO they desire to reach then they are destined to fail in most everything they do that is NEW…… Granted there will be few that hang on in hopes the suits will actually program their channel with the genre they CLAIMED to be putting on their air. Caprica is NOT, NOT, NOT….. science fiction….it is another soap opera ..(I am the odd duck here because I like it)…..The suits are doing the same thing with Caprica they have done with Stargate Universe…….another soap opera. The problem Syfy is not the Soap Opera Channel so the folks that are looking for Soap Operas are not looking to SYFY for their programming. Having said that if Syfy will start promoting their Soap operas as soap operas and to the folks that like soap operas and continue LONG ENOUGH to get the audience that will watch soap operas eventually an audience will come to their channel. Of course the core audience they already have will also thin out and go away.

Syfy’s suits are the problem. They need to make up their minds and then program the channel.

The other immediate problem is this is a dead time of year for the channel and without a strong original episode of a show with an identity and a following as a lead in Caprica, not having a following and not having an identity is at a disadvantage. No one really knows what the show is.? The suits do not know what the show is so how is someone that never heard of it going to know?

Does anyone know what the DVR and on line viewing ratings are?

Does anyone know what the DVR and on line viewing ratings are?

Caprica isn’t as good as BSG, but at least it’s not as bad as Galactica: 1980. Hey, *nothing* is as bad as G:’80!:p

Caprica isn’t as good as BSG, but at least it’s not as bad as Galactica: 1980. Hey, *nothing* is as bad as G:’80!:p

Personally I think the problem is that it’s sort of advertised as an adult show but the lead character is a rather snotty obnoxious teen. I’m not interested in watching teen angst especially on a show that has anything at all to do with BSG which was just so fantastic. The kid playing William Adama really irritates me too, he does nothing but look perplexed and uncomfortable. Somehow it all adds up to me not wanting to watch. Stoltz and Morales are great leads but it’s everybody else that needs to be swapped out

Personally I think the problem is that it’s sort of advertised as an adult show but the lead character is a rather snotty obnoxious teen. I’m not interested in watching teen angst especially on a show that has anything at all to do with BSG which was just so fantastic. The kid playing William Adama really irritates me too, he does nothing but look perplexed and uncomfortable. Somehow it all adds up to me not wanting to watch. Stoltz and Morales are great leads but it’s everybody else that needs to be swapped out

I also think I’d be less stressed out when I watch Caprica if the whole Adama family wasn’t involved. We all know you can’t trust showrunners (even great ones like RM) to not frak with the characters we love when you go back in time. Adama is like my all time favorite character, right up there with Mulder. Why do I want to see him as an awkward annoying teen? Why? To be able to draw BSG viewers in? It’s not working. If anything it makes me want to turn it off everytime little Willy looks like he wants to hurl or crawl under a rock because nothing in his life makes sense. There’s no need to give us teen agnst in the form of William Adama. The whole idea is just terrible.

I’m enjoying the show; however, there were some serious problems from the beginning that SyFy and the writers have yet to address.

1. It should never have been shown at 9pm. The content matter is deals with material that needs the 10pm spot. It is a gritty show.

2. It needed a lead-in. SyFy is pairing 2 new shows on Friday nights, which is a mistake.

3. Friday nights are ratings sinkholes for the broadcast networks. Why didn’t they air it on Sunday at 10pm? Almost everyone seems to be abandoning scripted programming for reality shows on Friday.

4. Joseph Adama is written as being totally immoral and even Esai Morales can’t overcome that. In BSG, references to William Adama’s father gave the impression that he was a civil rights lawyer who was passionate about the law fighting for the underdogs. In Caprica, he’s nothing but a mob mouthpiece who regularly bribes judges in order to win his cases. He also is a murderer. In previews for the next episode, he orders a hit on the Graystone’s wife knowing that she had no involvement whatsoever in the terrorist bombing that killed his wife and daughter and that came forward of her own accord and admitted her daughter’s involvement in the terrorist group. He allows his son to be exposed to his murderous cousin. Maybe he supposedly tries to change his life in his later years – so what? At this point, I’m not interested in the character and that’s all due to the writing.

5. In trying to be “provocative” the show brings in concepts that are I’m guessing offensive to a lot of viewers such as the group marriage that seems to be legal. The Virtual Reality group sex rooms, human sacrifice, etc. while thrust in your face in every episode is not dealt with and seems to be gratuitous to me. I would expect that people that frequented that regularly would need psychological counseling and yet they make it seem normal that children are regularly indulging in such things.

6. They never really explained why they need an army of robots or why the government would be funding it. From the beginning the Cylon was designed solely as a killing machine, and yet, the 12 colonies have 1 government and no major wars. Unless there is a viable threat I don’t believe taxpayers will fund major military expenses such as that.

7. How stupid do they think that the viewer is?

The entire premise that the Avatar personality of Zoe was created by hacking a search engine and yet she’s got the same inner thoughts and childhood memories as the real Zoe is hogwash.

Then they had Lacy’s “security clearance” revoked by Zoe’s father. I don’t see a 16 year old friend of their daughter having a security clearance.

8. They are making the same mistake as Stargate Universe. Too many of the main characters are not written to be likable. Zoe seems like a spoiled bratty teenager who decides to run away from home with her psycho boyfriend to another planet.

With ratings like it’s been getting – especially the latest – I expect it to be cancelled. I’m just hoping that the entire 19 episodes from the 1st season end up airing.

I also think I’d be less stressed out when I watch Caprica if the whole Adama family wasn’t involved. We all know you can’t trust showrunners (even great ones like RM) to not frak with the characters we love when you go back in time. Adama is like my all time favorite character, right up there with Mulder. Why do I want to see him as an awkward annoying teen? Why? To be able to draw BSG viewers in? It’s not working. If anything it makes me want to turn it off everytime little Willy looks like he wants to hurl or crawl under a rock because nothing in his life makes sense. There’s no need to give us teen agnst in the form of William Adama. The whole idea is just terrible.

I’m enjoying the show; however, there were some serious problems from the beginning that SyFy and the writers have yet to address.

1. It should never have been shown at 9pm. The content matter is deals with material that needs the 10pm spot. It is a gritty show.

2. It needed a lead-in. SyFy is pairing 2 new shows on Friday nights, which is a mistake.

3. Friday nights are ratings sinkholes for the broadcast networks. Why didn’t they air it on Sunday at 10pm? Almost everyone seems to be abandoning scripted programming for reality shows on Friday.

4. Joseph Adama is written as being totally immoral and even Esai Morales can’t overcome that. In BSG, references to William Adama’s father gave the impression that he was a civil rights lawyer who was passionate about the law fighting for the underdogs. In Caprica, he’s nothing but a mob mouthpiece who regularly bribes judges in order to win his cases. He also is a murderer. In previews for the next episode, he orders a hit on the Graystone’s wife knowing that she had no involvement whatsoever in the terrorist bombing that killed his wife and daughter and that came forward of her own accord and admitted her daughter’s involvement in the terrorist group. He allows his son to be exposed to his murderous cousin. Maybe he supposedly tries to change his life in his later years – so what? At this point, I’m not interested in the character and that’s all due to the writing.

5. In trying to be “provocative” the show brings in concepts that are I’m guessing offensive to a lot of viewers such as the group marriage that seems to be legal. The Virtual Reality group sex rooms, human sacrifice, etc. while thrust in your face in every episode is not dealt with and seems to be gratuitous to me. I would expect that people that frequented that regularly would need psychological counseling and yet they make it seem normal that children are regularly indulging in such things.

6. They never really explained why they need an army of robots or why the government would be funding it. From the beginning the Cylon was designed solely as a killing machine, and yet, the 12 colonies have 1 government and no major wars. Unless there is a viable threat I don’t believe taxpayers will fund major military expenses such as that.

7. How stupid do they think that the viewer is?

The entire premise that the Avatar personality of Zoe was created by hacking a search engine and yet she’s got the same inner thoughts and childhood memories as the real Zoe is hogwash.

Then they had Lacy’s “security clearance” revoked by Zoe’s father. I don’t see a 16 year old friend of their daughter having a security clearance.

8. They are making the same mistake as Stargate Universe. Too many of the main characters are not written to be likable. Zoe seems like a spoiled bratty teenager who decides to run away from home with her psycho boyfriend to another planet.

With ratings like it’s been getting – especially the latest – I expect it to be cancelled. I’m just hoping that the entire 19 episodes from the 1st season end up airing.

oh and KB, I was invested in BSG within about 3 minutes. So it doesn’t always take time to get invested in a show. As soon as I turned BSG on I knew it was going to be one of my favorite shows ever. Caprica, not so much!

oh and KB, I was invested in BSG within about 3 minutes. So it doesn’t always take time to get invested in a show. As soon as I turned BSG on I knew it was going to be one of my favorite shows ever. Caprica, not so much!

Carol
I agree with points 8 and 4! I hate to see Joseph Adama be something different than what we thought he was. We knew Bill didn’t get along with his Father but I always thought Joseph was more a person fascinated (according to Romo) with murderers and psychopaths, not a mob lawyer. And yes the teen crap is very unappealing to me (not a teen). Then again I like Life Unexpected so… it depends on whether the teen is likable. Zoe is not. She’s spoiled, bratty and thinks she knows it all. And why on Earth would her Mother spill the beans to the public?? That was nuts

Carol
I agree with points 8 and 4! I hate to see Joseph Adama be something different than what we thought he was. We knew Bill didn’t get along with his Father but I always thought Joseph was more a person fascinated (according to Romo) with murderers and psychopaths, not a mob lawyer. And yes the teen crap is very unappealing to me (not a teen). Then again I like Life Unexpected so… it depends on whether the teen is likable. Zoe is not. She’s spoiled, bratty and thinks she knows it all. And why on Earth would her Mother spill the beans to the public?? That was nuts

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There are some good points that have been made here. I am also troubled by the direction Joseph Adama is going in. We didn’t get the impression that he was like that in BSG. And the teen characters are annoying. It’s also too soap-operaish, like SGU. I want to see Science Fiction, not a soap-opera!

There are some good points that have been made here. I am also troubled by the direction Joseph Adama is going in. We didn’t get the impression that he was like that in BSG. And the teen characters are annoying. It’s also too soap-operaish, like SGU. I want to see Science Fiction, not a soap-opera!

Hopefully the network heads will actually try a science fiction show next instead of soap operas and paranormal shows.

A person can dream right?

Hopefully the network heads will actually try a science fiction show next instead of soap operas and paranormal shows.

A person can dream right?

It’s not horrible, but it has no action and the individual episodes don’t tell a story, so there’s no sense of fulfillment to the viewer.

They’ve overemphasized the soap opera and social commentary aspects — and let the scifi cool stuff fall into the background.

The single best episode of BSG was the 33 minute one. It had cool scifi concepts, it had dramatic tension, and it had a conclusion.

It’s not horrible, but it has no action and the individual episodes don’t tell a story, so there’s no sense of fulfillment to the viewer.

They’ve overemphasized the soap opera and social commentary aspects — and let the scifi cool stuff fall into the background.

The single best episode of BSG was the 33 minute one. It had cool scifi concepts, it had dramatic tension, and it had a conclusion.

Everybody knows Syfy is trying to attract 18-35 females. Good luck. Battlestar, which I will never watch, was the lightning that never strikes twice. Apparently itsd an instant classic. Turn Syfy into a horror show. Do it subtely, over time. You’ll get far more 18-35 female fans wityh horror than scifi. Word up. Syfy can’t compete with CW and ABC.

Everybody knows Syfy is trying to attract 18-35 females. Good luck. Battlestar, which I will never watch, was the lightning that never strikes twice. Apparently itsd an instant classic. Turn Syfy into a horror show. Do it subtely, over time. You’ll get far more 18-35 female fans wityh horror than scifi. Word up. Syfy can’t compete with CW and ABC.

My guess is that before they outright cancel it they’ll try to make it more like Battlestar Galactica and ditch the soap angle. I wouldn’t be shocked if after this season (If it exists after this season) they jump ahead more than ten years into the first Cylon War.

My guess is that before they outright cancel it they’ll try to make it more like Battlestar Galactica and ditch the soap angle. I wouldn’t be shocked if after this season (If it exists after this season) they jump ahead more than ten years into the first Cylon War.

No one need worry about all shot episodes not airing. The Syphilus channel has never once in it’s entire history not shown everything they paid for, whether it was canceled or not. They might pretend to be a real network but they can’t afford not to air something they paid for. The show may even get a second season despite it’s poor numbers. They kept Battlestar Galactica on almost two full seasons past the point where they canceled other shows that weren’t produced in-house.

No one need worry about all shot episodes not airing. The Syphilus channel has never once in it’s entire history not shown everything they paid for, whether it was canceled or not. They might pretend to be a real network but they can’t afford not to air something they paid for. The show may even get a second season despite it’s poor numbers. They kept Battlestar Galactica on almost two full seasons past the point where they canceled other shows that weren’t produced in-house.

moraliste says:
February 8, 2010 at 7:49 pm

The problem with the horror idea for Syfy is NBC Universal already has an all horror channel call Chiller, so whay not just build that networks schedule to get the horror fans. Nothing wrong with fans of horror having a niche channel but is does not seem very smart to KILL one channel change to a new genre when you already have a channel. What ever Syfy does they need to be honest about it and then program for the folks that will watch it.

There is (I believe) allot of distrust towards Syfy because they will say and do anything to try and get a mistake covered up and all it does is make folks angry.

Like another person posted earlier.
“SyFy wasn’t satisfied being SciFi , didn’t appreciate its SciFi audience, and has been steadily alienating them. You reap what you sow.”

moraliste says:
February 8, 2010 at 7:49 pm

The problem with the horror idea for Syfy is NBC Universal already has an all horror channel call Chiller, so whay not just build that networks schedule to get the horror fans. Nothing wrong with fans of horror having a niche channel but is does not seem very smart to KILL one channel change to a new genre when you already have a channel. What ever Syfy does they need to be honest about it and then program for the folks that will watch it.

There is (I believe) allot of distrust towards Syfy because they will say and do anything to try and get a mistake covered up and all it does is make folks angry.

Like another person posted earlier.
“SyFy wasn’t satisfied being SciFi , didn’t appreciate its SciFi audience, and has been steadily alienating them. You reap what you sow.”

ITA with the posters saying they will show the entire first season, ratings be d***d. I seem to remember reading an article (on this site I think 11/12/09) about Syfy trimming off one ep because they had to tighten the budget a bit but didn’t want to sacrifice ‘quality’? This is a prestige show for them, promo’d at film festivals and such – they’ll show every ep and if they end it they’ll make sure to wrap it up a la Dollhouse if possible. They can’t just cancel this or they’ll have egg all over their faces especially considering all the upset they’ve had so far over their ‘new’ shows.

I’m still interested in what the critics are saying about it. It was the critical buzz that kept BSG alive, I’m pretty sure not the numbers. Syfy was probably shocked to be getting any ‘respect’; they won’t give up the dream of getting that again, not without a fight. LOL

ITA with the posters saying they will show the entire first season, ratings be d***d. I seem to remember reading an article (on this site I think 11/12/09) about Syfy trimming off one ep because they had to tighten the budget a bit but didn’t want to sacrifice ‘quality’? This is a prestige show for them, promo’d at film festivals and such – they’ll show every ep and if they end it they’ll make sure to wrap it up a la Dollhouse if possible. They can’t just cancel this or they’ll have egg all over their faces especially considering all the upset they’ve had so far over their ‘new’ shows.

I’m still interested in what the critics are saying about it. It was the critical buzz that kept BSG alive, I’m pretty sure not the numbers. Syfy was probably shocked to be getting any ‘respect’; they won’t give up the dream of getting that again, not without a fight. LOL

RE: Hey, *nothing* is as bad as G:’80!:p

You should try watching My Mother The Car sometime. Might not change your mind but you will probably have to think it over first.

RE: Hey, *nothing* is as bad as G:’80!:p

You should try watching My Mother The Car sometime. Might not change your mind but you will probably have to think it over first.

Critics?? Ha! WHo cares about critics? Most of them don’t iike real science fiction/fantasy, anyways. …a bunch of snobs, most of them are. Didn’t a lot of them pan STAR WARS (ep4), when it first came out? It’s the FANS that matter. There are 10s of millions of science fiction/fantasy fans out there, and SyFy only gets a hand full of them to watch, b/c they produce trash tv that is low bar crap or isn’t really science fiction. Science fiction/fantasy movies are the biggest jugernauts at the box office (THE MATRIX, STAR WARS, STAR TREK, LORD OF THE RINGS, THE BLACK HOLE, TRANSFORMERS, etc).

Please fire Bonnie Hammer! Who in the right mind would place an ex-LIFETIME CHANNEL exec, who clearly doesn’t like science fiction/fantasy, in charge of a channel, focusing on the latter?? She’s trying to convince us that quality science fiction encompasses daytime soap drama, via her legion of stealth marketers, posing as fans:

http://chrisabraham.com/2009/04/13/overcoming-bad-online-influencers-for-battlestar

No one wants to see this crap! CRAPICA sucks. SG-U sucks. …and Moore’s Galactica In Name Only show sucked, too, which is why it lost 69% of its viewing audience.

Critics?? Ha! WHo cares about critics? Most of them don’t iike real science fiction/fantasy, anyways. …a bunch of snobs, most of them are. Didn’t a lot of them pan STAR WARS (ep4), when it first came out? It’s the FANS that matter. There are 10s of millions of science fiction/fantasy fans out there, and SyFy only gets a hand full of them to watch, b/c they produce trash tv that is low bar crap or isn’t really science fiction. Science fiction/fantasy movies are the biggest jugernauts at the box office (THE MATRIX, STAR WARS, STAR TREK, LORD OF THE RINGS, THE BLACK HOLE, TRANSFORMERS, etc).

Please fire Bonnie Hammer! Who in the right mind would place an ex-LIFETIME CHANNEL exec, who clearly doesn’t like science fiction/fantasy, in charge of a channel, focusing on the latter?? She’s trying to convince us that quality science fiction encompasses daytime soap drama, via her legion of stealth marketers, posing as fans:

http://chrisabraham.com/2009/04/13/overcoming-bad-online-influencers-for-battlestar

No one wants to see this crap! CRAPICA sucks. SG-U sucks. …and Moore’s Galactica In Name Only show sucked, too, which is why it lost 69% of its viewing audience.

Hard to be interested in this show when I just got through watching their entire civilization crash and burn. Not only that but they fast forward to our modern times in the BSG finale. It kills interest in a spin off.

Hard to be interested in this show when I just got through watching their entire civilization crash and burn. Not only that but they fast forward to our modern times in the BSG finale. It kills interest in a spin off.

I’m not sure this can be classed as surprising news, this is a BSG spin-off and whatever else BSG might have been a ratings success isn’t one of them. I suspect if its get similar praise to BSG and an awards possibility then SyFy might live with bad ratings for a second season but I’ve not really looked into the critical reaction yet.

I’m not sure this can be classed as surprising news, this is a BSG spin-off and whatever else BSG might have been a ratings success isn’t one of them. I suspect if its get similar praise to BSG and an awards possibility then SyFy might live with bad ratings for a second season but I’ve not really looked into the critical reaction yet.

Surely the accountants will have their say and possibly preempt an early demise of Caprica.

Surely the accountants will have their say and possibly preempt an early demise of Caprica.

@ MooresGalacicaRipOffSux

You sound familiar.

@ MooresGalacicaRipOffSux

You sound familiar.

I’m just one of many people who hate soap operas and want to see science fiction/fantasy. (Btw… Keep it moist)!

I’m just one of many people who hate soap operas and want to see science fiction/fantasy. (Btw… Keep it moist)!

Critical response has been very very positive.

Caprica feels like it is trying to be an HBO show, and I think it is coming close, I can’t take my eyes off Esai Morales when he is on screen, and he plays well off Eric Stolz.

I’m in this for the long haul, and I will be majorly disappointed if it doesn’t get a second season, in fact I will not invest my viwership in anything syfy creates if they cancel this early.

Channels need to have respect for their audience, whether 1.6 million are watching or 1.2 million.

Critical response has been very very positive.

Caprica feels like it is trying to be an HBO show, and I think it is coming close, I can’t take my eyes off Esai Morales when he is on screen, and he plays well off Eric Stolz.

I’m in this for the long haul, and I will be majorly disappointed if it doesn’t get a second season, in fact I will not invest my viwership in anything syfy creates if they cancel this early.

Channels need to have respect for their audience, whether 1.6 million are watching or 1.2 million.

Not that people like and are watching the show. Apparantly, if Bonnie Hammer and SyFy want to produce soap crap, they should do us (those of us who like real science fiction/fantasy) a favor and leave the channel and let someone who has a love for the genre a chance to give the fans what they want to see. The low ratings is an indicator of whow science fiction fans feel about the direction SyFy is heading.

Not that people like and are watching the show. Apparantly, if Bonnie Hammer and SyFy want to produce soap crap, they should do us (those of us who like real science fiction/fantasy) a favor and leave the channel and let someone who has a love for the genre a chance to give the fans what they want to see. The low ratings is an indicator of whow science fiction fans feel about the direction SyFy is heading.

Isn’t Ghost Hunters one of SyFy’s most watched shows? What does that say about the direction the audience wants the network to take? And how does the WWE show on SyFy do compared to the rest of the line-up? Again what does that say?

Isn’t Ghost Hunters one of SyFy’s most watched shows? What does that say about the direction the audience wants the network to take? And how does the WWE show on SyFy do compared to the rest of the line-up? Again what does that say?

…b/c reality tv shows appeal to the mass viewing audience. Bonnie Hammer used to work for WWE. She also used to create reality tv shows. She’s the queen of crap tv that appeals to the masses. Basically, she’s been selling out the channel to mainstream crap tv. Congrats! It doesn’t take a genius to do that.

…b/c reality tv shows appeal to the mass viewing audience. Bonnie Hammer used to work for WWE. She also used to create reality tv shows. She’s the queen of crap tv that appeals to the masses. Basically, she’s been selling out the channel to mainstream crap tv. Congrats! It doesn’t take a genius to do that.

Bet ya money, those viewers aren’t sticking around to watch the few real science fiction/fantasy shows that SyFy actually does broadcast, though. Like I said there are 10s of millions of science fiction/fantasy fans that have made THE MATRIX, STAR WARS, STAR TREK, LORD OF THE RINGS, TRANSFORMERS, AVATAR, PREDATORS, etc box office record breakers at the box office. They continue to elude Bonnie “LIFETIME CHANNEL” Hammer, b/c she doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing. Maybe if tried producing high quality, original real science fiction/fantasy instead of trying to jam this soap opera garbage down our throats, we would actually tune in.

Bet ya money, those viewers aren’t sticking around to watch the few real science fiction/fantasy shows that SyFy actually does broadcast, though. Like I said there are 10s of millions of science fiction/fantasy fans that have made THE MATRIX, STAR WARS, STAR TREK, LORD OF THE RINGS, TRANSFORMERS, AVATAR, PREDATORS, etc box office record breakers at the box office. They continue to elude Bonnie “LIFETIME CHANNEL” Hammer, b/c she doesn’t have a clue what she’s doing. Maybe if tried producing high quality, original real science fiction/fantasy instead of trying to jam this soap opera garbage down our throats, we would actually tune in.

For those who’s desapointed about the way the story of the Adama’s family goes after only 3 epi (i’m part of them) , maybe we should not under estimate them so soon….

instead of saying they think we are stupid…. maybe we’re the ones to do this mistake…

they know as much as we do the future history of the Adama’s family, anything can append at this point….

for ex i don’t think the murder of the Greystone wife will append… and maybe after almost becoming a murder Adama will feel so guilty that his life will make a big turn…

maybe becoming a ennemy of the mob and his brother…. so that way start to build the honnor of the family’s futur that we all know …..

that’s a lot of maybe, but that’s the point… why would they take the risk of loosing all the fan of BSG in bringing the honor of the Adama’s family into shit… unless they have greaters objectives in the next few epi..

..sorry for my not usual english… i do better in french

For those who’s desapointed about the way the story of the Adama’s family goes after only 3 epi (i’m part of them) , maybe we should not under estimate them so soon….

instead of saying they think we are stupid…. maybe we’re the ones to do this mistake…

they know as much as we do the future history of the Adama’s family, anything can append at this point….

for ex i don’t think the murder of the Greystone wife will append… and maybe after almost becoming a murder Adama will feel so guilty that his life will make a big turn…

maybe becoming a ennemy of the mob and his brother…. so that way start to build the honnor of the family’s futur that we all know …..

that’s a lot of maybe, but that’s the point… why would they take the risk of loosing all the fan of BSG in bringing the honor of the Adama’s family into shit… unless they have greaters objectives in the next few epi..

..sorry for my not usual english… i do better in french

Moore’s imposter Galactica spiraled out of control into a huge, plot-hole ridden, contradictory, Deus Ex Machina mess, after he ran out of Larson and DeSanto original BSG source material to exploit. It’s a huge reason they lost 69% of their viewing audience. …so, why do you think Eick and co. will succeed this time?

Moore’s imposter Galactica spiraled out of control into a huge, plot-hole ridden, contradictory, Deus Ex Machina mess, after he ran out of Larson and DeSanto original BSG source material to exploit. It’s a huge reason they lost 69% of their viewing audience. …so, why do you think Eick and co. will succeed this time?

The show is decent with a ton of potential.

If people could watch the crapfest that is SGU, then surely this should have done better… unfortunately, the pilot had a bunch of slow points, which I think hurt the show.

As for the loser behind me, BSG, through all 4 seasons was better than 99.9% of tv shows out there. It is probably the 3rd best show of all time, after DS9 and Farscape.

The show is decent with a ton of potential.

If people could watch the crapfest that is SGU, then surely this should have done better… unfortunately, the pilot had a bunch of slow points, which I think hurt the show.

As for the loser behind me, BSG, through all 4 seasons was better than 99.9% of tv shows out there. It is probably the 3rd best show of all time, after DS9 and Farscape.

Lol Moore’s imposter BSG (Glen A Larson created BSG, which had 29-65 million weekly viewers) had a laughable small weekly viewing audience (less than 3 million) and 69% tuned out, b/c the it was a huge plot hole mess than ended with a Deus Ex Machina ending, bogged down by the soap opera, love triangle garbage that CRAPICA is saturated with. …so, I guess most people don’t agree with you. Call me when Moore actually CREATES HIS OWN SHOW that gets picked up by a network.

Lol Moore’s imposter BSG (Glen A Larson created BSG, which had 29-65 million weekly viewers) had a laughable small weekly viewing audience (less than 3 million) and 69% tuned out, b/c the it was a huge plot hole mess than ended with a Deus Ex Machina ending, bogged down by the soap opera, love triangle garbage that CRAPICA is saturated with. …so, I guess most people don’t agree with you. Call me when Moore actually CREATES HIS OWN SHOW that gets picked up by a network.

Evan, your SyFy marketing dept revisionist history isn’t supported by the cold, hard, ugly facts and data. You need to get a grip.

Evan, your SyFy marketing dept revisionist history isn’t supported by the cold, hard, ugly facts and data. You need to get a grip.

The background story and premise has some problems. The pace is too slow – they need move things along quicker. The subplots have no revelance or connection to the main story.

As far as the low ratings go, it’s nearly impossible to get back those viewers they’ve lost.

The background story and premise has some problems. The pace is too slow – they need move things along quicker. The subplots have no revelance or connection to the main story.

As far as the low ratings go, it’s nearly impossible to get back those viewers they’ve lost.

@ MooresGalacticaRipOffSux

I see now that you’ve been banned from the SyFy forums you’ve come to dump your garbage here, eh Gino.

@ MooresGalacticaRipOffSux

I see now that you’ve been banned from the SyFy forums you’ve come to dump your garbage here, eh Gino.

SyFy can ban TOS fans, who dare tell the truth about how they screwed over Larson and the TOS fans, from their boards but you can’t stop the truth from leaking out from the rest of cyberspace. You have zero power here.

SyFy can ban TOS fans, who dare tell the truth about how they screwed over Larson and the TOS fans, from their boards but you can’t stop the truth from leaking out from the rest of cyberspace. You have zero power here.

“It is probably the 3rd best show of all time, after DS9 and Farscape.”

There are other things out there outside sci-fi, mate…

“It is probably the 3rd best show of all time, after DS9 and Farscape.”

There are other things out there outside sci-fi, mate…

“It is probably the 3rd best show of all time, after DS9 and Farscape.”

There are other things out there outside sci-fi, mate…And those aren’t even the best of the genre.

“It is probably the 3rd best show of all time, after DS9 and Farscape.”

There are other things out there outside sci-fi, mate…And those aren’t even the best of the genre.

Farscape, SG, and BSG get top rankings…

Caprica’s problem is being in an already familiar universe – we know where this is all going.

We just don’t want to wait 58 years to get back there!

If they had written it for when Bill was getting into the military, and the initial battles, that would have more action, involvement of the other colonies, and story possibilities.

I see Caprica dying, as well as SyFy if things don’t turn around. Caprica is the only real Sci-Fi original programming for the month, a big 3 hours of 670+. Not even in the ballpark of what the channel used to be. -kh

Farscape, SG, and BSG get top rankings…

Caprica’s problem is being in an already familiar universe – we know where this is all going.

We just don’t want to wait 58 years to get back there!

If they had written it for when Bill was getting into the military, and the initial battles, that would have more action, involvement of the other colonies, and story possibilities.

I see Caprica dying, as well as SyFy if things don’t turn around. Caprica is the only real Sci-Fi original programming for the month, a big 3 hours of 670+. Not even in the ballpark of what the channel used to be. -kh

Bryan Singer Directing Battlestar Galactica Confirmed

By Josh Tyler: 2009-08-13 20:55:32

Yesterday we told you here about the rumor that Bryan Singer was in talks to direct a movie version of Battlestar Galactica Now it’s official. Variety says he’s signed on the dotted line.

Bryan Singer is officially doing a Battlestar Galactica movie, but hold your applause. If you’re hoping for a script by Ronald Moore or anything in any way related to the recently finished, wildly popular Sci-Fi television show he shepherded, forget it. The film will be produced by Glen Larson who was responsible for the original 70s version of the franchise. Larson hates Ronald Moore’s version and has been very vocal about his desire to ditch it in favor of a reboot based on his less successful, sillier, 70s version of Galactica. If Larson is producing, then that’s where Singer and Battlestar Galactica are heading: Back to the 70s.

Still, the premise is the same. Both the 70s version and the more recent Sci-Fi Channel version are about a galaxy far away where the human race creates intelligent robots called Cylons. The Cylons turn on humanity, destroying all of civilization except for a small, rag tag fleet of ships on the run and lead by the humanity’s last warship, the battlestar Galactica. Hunted and pursued by the Cylons, they fight their way through space looking for safety and a new home.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bryan-Singer-Directing-Battlestar-Galactica-Confirmed-14364.html

Bryan Singer Directing Battlestar Galactica Confirmed

By Josh Tyler: 2009-08-13 20:55:32

Yesterday we told you here about the rumor that Bryan Singer was in talks to direct a movie version of Battlestar Galactica Now it’s official. Variety says he’s signed on the dotted line.

Bryan Singer is officially doing a Battlestar Galactica movie, but hold your applause. If you’re hoping for a script by Ronald Moore or anything in any way related to the recently finished, wildly popular Sci-Fi television show he shepherded, forget it. The film will be produced by Glen Larson who was responsible for the original 70s version of the franchise. Larson hates Ronald Moore’s version and has been very vocal about his desire to ditch it in favor of a reboot based on his less successful, sillier, 70s version of Galactica. If Larson is producing, then that’s where Singer and Battlestar Galactica are heading: Back to the 70s.

Still, the premise is the same. Both the 70s version and the more recent Sci-Fi Channel version are about a galaxy far away where the human race creates intelligent robots called Cylons. The Cylons turn on humanity, destroying all of civilization except for a small, rag tag fleet of ships on the run and lead by the humanity’s last warship, the battlestar Galactica. Hunted and pursued by the Cylons, they fight their way through space looking for safety and a new home.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Bryan-Singer-Directing-Battlestar-Galactica-Confirmed-14364.html

“Battlestar Galactica, the definitive battle between the last surviving human colony and an evil robotic race, premiered on ABC in 1978 to an audience of 65 million viewers. The show remained a top-15 series throughout its brief run, and was eventually cancelled due to the prohibitively expensive special effects. From legendary television series creator Glen A. Larson (Magnum P.I., The Six Million Dollar Man), this science fiction adventure starring Lorne Green, Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict quickly established itself as an epic and powerful television saga.

Considered cutting-edge for its time, Battlestar Galactica took home Emmy Awards for Outstanding Costume Design for a Series and Outstanding Individual Achievement – Creative Technical Crafts.”

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/426/426739p1.html

“Battlestar Galactica, the definitive battle between the last surviving human colony and an evil robotic race, premiered on ABC in 1978 to an audience of 65 million viewers. The show remained a top-15 series throughout its brief run, and was eventually cancelled due to the prohibitively expensive special effects. From legendary television series creator Glen A. Larson (Magnum P.I., The Six Million Dollar Man), this science fiction adventure starring Lorne Green, Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict quickly established itself as an epic and powerful television saga.

Considered cutting-edge for its time, Battlestar Galactica took home Emmy Awards for Outstanding Costume Design for a Series and Outstanding Individual Achievement – Creative Technical Crafts.”

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/426/426739p1.html

I posted the second article just to disprove the Mooron shoe licker’s claim that Larson’s version was less succesful. Mooron shoe lickers are known for blantantly lying about the facts, surround Larson’s creation, BSG and Moore’s imposter craptacular rip off show.

I posted the second article just to disprove the Mooron shoe licker’s claim that Larson’s version was less succesful. Mooron shoe lickers are known for blantantly lying about the facts, surround Larson’s creation, BSG and Moore’s imposter craptacular rip off show.

@ Keith Hamlin

Agreed, but subsequent seasons of Caprica could bring us to the point where Adama enters the military leading up to the first Cylon war. There is a lot of story to be told.

@ Keith Hamlin

Agreed, but subsequent seasons of Caprica could bring us to the point where Adama enters the military leading up to the first Cylon war. There is a lot of story to be told.

CRAPICA ALSO BOMBING THE RATINGS IN THE UK

On Sky One the two-hour Syfy pilot of Battlestar Galactica prequel Caprica aired just two weeks after it opened to disappointing ratings in America. Sky One previously showed parent show Battlestar Galactica and co-funded the first season of the critically acclaimed drama. However, it seems that on this side of pond as in America Caprica has an uphill ratings battle. According to early figures it didn’t make an impressive start on Sky One with 170,000 viewing the first hour with the second hour dropping to 135,000.

http://www.atvnewsnetwork.co.uk/today/index.php/atv-today/2201-vampires-beat-cylons-in-ratings-battle

CRAPICA ALSO BOMBING THE RATINGS IN THE UK

On Sky One the two-hour Syfy pilot of Battlestar Galactica prequel Caprica aired just two weeks after it opened to disappointing ratings in America. Sky One previously showed parent show Battlestar Galactica and co-funded the first season of the critically acclaimed drama. However, it seems that on this side of pond as in America Caprica has an uphill ratings battle. According to early figures it didn’t make an impressive start on Sky One with 170,000 viewing the first hour with the second hour dropping to 135,000.

http://www.atvnewsnetwork.co.uk/today/index.php/atv-today/2201-vampires-beat-cylons-in-ratings-battle

I’m not a hater, I just think its a crap show *g* – but unlike SGU I’m quite prepared just to shuffle away whilst it gets cancled.

(And expensive? Really? Who gets the money, the producer? Looks like cheap beverly hills *g*)

I’m not a hater, I just think its a crap show *g* – but unlike SGU I’m quite prepared just to shuffle away whilst it gets cancled.

(And expensive? Really? Who gets the money, the producer? Looks like cheap beverly hills *g*)

Moore… just a few random points

1 – Comparing the ratings performance of a show from the mid-70′s to one now, especially one on cable is to say the very least flawed. Its the ‘Gunsmoke rule’.

2 – Quality is subjective. I didn’t enjoy either version of BSG but the vast majority of people who have seen both seem to prefer the modern version which is constantly labelled one of the best TV shows ever.

3 – If there are tens of millions of sci-fi fans out there why aren’t they and have they never watched any of the ‘real’ sci-fi content on SyFy? When the audiences don’t watch it networks can’t continue to pour money into it.

Moore… just a few random points

1 – Comparing the ratings performance of a show from the mid-70′s to one now, especially one on cable is to say the very least flawed. Its the ‘Gunsmoke rule’.

2 – Quality is subjective. I didn’t enjoy either version of BSG but the vast majority of people who have seen both seem to prefer the modern version which is constantly labelled one of the best TV shows ever.

3 – If there are tens of millions of sci-fi fans out there why aren’t they and have they never watched any of the ‘real’ sci-fi content on SyFy? When the audiences don’t watch it networks can’t continue to pour money into it.

You’re missing the point. SyFy doesn’t have any great, original programming, therefore those millions of science fiction/fantasy fans aren’t tuning in. SyFy has been the biggest joke in the science fiction/fantasy community for years, ever since they hired an ex-LIFETIME CHANNEL exec to ruin the channel with her soap opera crap.

Your little GUNSMOKE cutting remark is a moot point. The fact is that there are millions more fans of TOS (29-65 million to be exact) that watched Larson’s creation than GINO (Galactica In Name Only). Arguing why is also a moot point.

You’re missing the point. SyFy doesn’t have any great, original programming, therefore those millions of science fiction/fantasy fans aren’t tuning in. SyFy has been the biggest joke in the science fiction/fantasy community for years, ever since they hired an ex-LIFETIME CHANNEL exec to ruin the channel with her soap opera crap.

Your little GUNSMOKE cutting remark is a moot point. The fact is that there are millions more fans of TOS (29-65 million to be exact) that watched Larson’s creation than GINO (Galactica In Name Only). Arguing why is also a moot point.

Reruns of ENTERPRISE and made for tv movies matching GINO ratings

(The worst of the STAR TREK spin offs) ENTERPRISE reruns match GINO firstrun episodes in ratings!

Post subject: Skiffy Top 10 (1/8/07 – 1/14/07)

1 Gendel 1.7

2 ECW 1.4

3 Star Trek: Enterprise 1.2 [GINO episodes JUPITER and RAPTURE both scored a 1.4 in the ratings]

4 Basilisk: Serpent King 1.0

5 Jake 2.0 0.9

6 Jason and the Argonauts, part two 0.9

7 Monster Man 0.9

8 The Last Starfighter 0.8

9 Falcon Down 0.8

10 Jason and the Argonauts, part one 0.8

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/8/07 — 1/14/07

GINO barely beats out a 20 year old made-for-tv movie with a 1.5!

Post subject: Skiffy Top 10 (1/22/07 – 1/28/07)

1 Battlestar Galactica 1.5
2 The Dresden Files 1.5
3 ECW 1.5
4 Gryphon 1.5
5 The Day After 1.4
6 Pterodactyl 1.2
7 Disaster Zone: Volcano 1.2
8 Merlin part two 1.1
9 Timeline 1.1
10 Merline part one 0.9

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/22/07 — 1/28/07

Reruns of ENTERPRISE and made for tv movies matching GINO ratings

(The worst of the STAR TREK spin offs) ENTERPRISE reruns match GINO firstrun episodes in ratings!

Post subject: Skiffy Top 10 (1/8/07 – 1/14/07)

1 Gendel 1.7

2 ECW 1.4

3 Star Trek: Enterprise 1.2 [GINO episodes JUPITER and RAPTURE both scored a 1.4 in the ratings]

4 Basilisk: Serpent King 1.0

5 Jake 2.0 0.9

6 Jason and the Argonauts, part two 0.9

7 Monster Man 0.9

8 The Last Starfighter 0.8

9 Falcon Down 0.8

10 Jason and the Argonauts, part one 0.8

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/8/07 — 1/14/07

GINO barely beats out a 20 year old made-for-tv movie with a 1.5!

Post subject: Skiffy Top 10 (1/22/07 – 1/28/07)

1 Battlestar Galactica 1.5
2 The Dresden Files 1.5
3 ECW 1.5
4 Gryphon 1.5
5 The Day After 1.4
6 Pterodactyl 1.2
7 Disaster Zone: Volcano 1.2
8 Merlin part two 1.1
9 Timeline 1.1
10 Merline part one 0.9

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/22/07 — 1/28/07

CBS Sinks NBC’s ‘Battlestar’ on Saturday

(Sunday, July 10 08:38 AM)

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) Fast National ratings for Saturday, July 9, 2005.
Led by a pair of episodes of “48 Hours,” CBS won all three primetime hours on Saturday, though The Eye still couldn’t beat FOX in the coveted young adult demographics.

Overall, CBS averaged a 4.3 rating/9 share, outdistancing second place FOX’s 3.7/7. ABC was a distant third with a 2.7/5. NBC, which ran three hours of the Sci Fi Channel drama “Battlestar Galactica” was a dismal fourth with a 1.8/4.

FOX came in first among adults 18-49, doing a 2.1 rating in the demographic advertisers love the most. ABC was second with a 1.5 rating, followed closely by the 1.4 rating for CBS. NBC trailed again with a 0.9 rating.

CBS started the night off right with a 3.8/8 for “48 Hours Mystery,” good enough to beat FOX’s “COPS” (3.3/7) for the hour. ABC was third with the 2.2/5 first hour of “The Emperor’s New Groove,” while NBC was last with the beginning of the “Battlestar Galactica” marathon.

At 9 p.m., CBS got a 4.3/9 from “Cold Case,” edging the 4.1/8 for “America’s Most Wanted” on FOX. The second hour of ABC’s Disney movie was third, while NBC got a 1.8/3 from its “Galactica” hour.

The second “48 Hours” episode delivered the night’s strongest ratings for CBS, with a 4.9/10. ABC moved up to second with a 3.2/7 for “America’s Funniest Home Videos.” NBC remained last with “Battlestar.”

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/…6272|1|,00.html

CBS Sinks NBC’s ‘Battlestar’ on Saturday

(Sunday, July 10 08:38 AM)

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) Fast National ratings for Saturday, July 9, 2005.
Led by a pair of episodes of “48 Hours,” CBS won all three primetime hours on Saturday, though The Eye still couldn’t beat FOX in the coveted young adult demographics.

Overall, CBS averaged a 4.3 rating/9 share, outdistancing second place FOX’s 3.7/7. ABC was a distant third with a 2.7/5. NBC, which ran three hours of the Sci Fi Channel drama “Battlestar Galactica” was a dismal fourth with a 1.8/4.

FOX came in first among adults 18-49, doing a 2.1 rating in the demographic advertisers love the most. ABC was second with a 1.5 rating, followed closely by the 1.4 rating for CBS. NBC trailed again with a 0.9 rating.

CBS started the night off right with a 3.8/8 for “48 Hours Mystery,” good enough to beat FOX’s “COPS” (3.3/7) for the hour. ABC was third with the 2.2/5 first hour of “The Emperor’s New Groove,” while NBC was last with the beginning of the “Battlestar Galactica” marathon.

At 9 p.m., CBS got a 4.3/9 from “Cold Case,” edging the 4.1/8 for “America’s Most Wanted” on FOX. The second hour of ABC’s Disney movie was third, while NBC got a 1.8/3 from its “Galactica” hour.

The second “48 Hours” episode delivered the night’s strongest ratings for CBS, with a 4.9/10. ABC moved up to second with a 3.2/7 for “America’s Funniest Home Videos.” NBC remained last with “Battlestar.”

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/…6272|1|,00.html

I had temporary trouble with my wonderful DISH Corporation service( NEVER let them defile your homes, if you have any say in it.) I thinki it was SaveScifi: With your interest in the subject, I’m glad I was even in the ballpark. Don’t get me wrong – GOOD scifi is unbeatable TV. But I’ve always had horror as a guilty pleasure. In fact, to me they are conjoined only because I had to sneak r lie my way into the livingroom to watch TZ and I still remember the pleasurably chilling frisson from those days. Also, Lovecrat shows how close they really can be. Not to mention the Borgs, which were very frightening. I never heard of Chill – sounds interesting. You’re absolutely right – its all about prime time, but surely some creative people come up with pilots … Maybe not. CAROL: I sincerely wish you were a critic for EW, USA Today, Salon, Zap2It, etc … except you’re too good for all of them.

I had temporary trouble with my wonderful DISH Corporation service( NEVER let them defile your homes, if you have any say in it.) I thinki it was SaveScifi: With your interest in the subject, I’m glad I was even in the ballpark. Don’t get me wrong – GOOD scifi is unbeatable TV. But I’ve always had horror as a guilty pleasure. In fact, to me they are conjoined only because I had to sneak r lie my way into the livingroom to watch TZ and I still remember the pleasurably chilling frisson from those days. Also, Lovecrat shows how close they really can be. Not to mention the Borgs, which were very frightening. I never heard of Chill – sounds interesting. You’re absolutely right – its all about prime time, but surely some creative people come up with pilots … Maybe not. CAROL: I sincerely wish you were a critic for EW, USA Today, Salon, Zap2It, etc … except you’re too good for all of them.

Crapica….that’s funny.

Crapica….that’s funny.

I really like the show, they had the pilot on XBOX live and it hooked me. Will the show be canceled, probably I liked it. It’s production values are high and the plot is very good but Friday nights have been the death of many a good show. But I just purchased the first two season of BSG on DVD because I like this show so much. I noticed that the Amazon ship date was back 8 days which tells me I’m not the only one who bought the series. Caprica will probably make some money in people going back to BSG to see it again.

I really like the show, they had the pilot on XBOX live and it hooked me. Will the show be canceled, probably I liked it. It’s production values are high and the plot is very good but Friday nights have been the death of many a good show. But I just purchased the first two season of BSG on DVD because I like this show so much. I noticed that the Amazon ship date was back 8 days which tells me I’m not the only one who bought the series. Caprica will probably make some money in people going back to BSG to see it again.

What a bunch of whiners! I think Caprica is great. I can’t say why without starting a flame war. I just think there is alot more to this show than people are giving it time for. There is much social commentary going on here, and to me, that makes for great sci-fi.

It’s so funny. SGU sucks because its trying to be like Caprica/BSG. Why? In today’s world BSG was extremely successful.

Now Caprica is failing (Ratings wise). Why? MARKETING. This show is POORLY Marketed. If it were marketed correctly, it would be far more popular.

As for losing Male viewers, perhaps its losing young males, but I think it appeals greatly to older males (with children). Men who can relate to Adama, and Greystone.

What a bunch of whiners! I think Caprica is great. I can’t say why without starting a flame war. I just think there is alot more to this show than people are giving it time for. There is much social commentary going on here, and to me, that makes for great sci-fi.

It’s so funny. SGU sucks because its trying to be like Caprica/BSG. Why? In today’s world BSG was extremely successful.

Now Caprica is failing (Ratings wise). Why? MARKETING. This show is POORLY Marketed. If it were marketed correctly, it would be far more popular.

As for losing Male viewers, perhaps its losing young males, but I think it appeals greatly to older males (with children). Men who can relate to Adama, and Greystone.

While Barbecues Sizzle, Ratings Fizzle

Three programs produced fireworks over the Fourth of July week; everything else fizzled. The three programs were the finale of ABC’s Dancing With the Stars, which attracted 22.4 million viewers and was by far the most-watched show of the week; another was the season opener of Big Brother 6, which drew 8.5 million viewers; and the third was the season premiere of USA Network’s Monk, which, with 6.4 million viewers, drew bigger audiences than many network shows last week. Otherwise, the week produced the smallest audiences of the year.

Indeed NBC drew one of its lowest ratings ever with a two-hour showcase of Battlestar Galactica set to air on Sci Fi channel, an NBC corporate sibling. It turned out to be the lowest-rated show of the week on any of the major networks, drawing just 2.3 million viewers.

The evening newscasts finished with virtually unchanged ratings, with NBC leading with 8.7 million viewers, ABC following with 8.2 million, and CBS trailing with 6.8 million. All of the networks experienced a spike in their ratings on Thursday following the terrorist attacks in London.

http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-13#tv1

While Barbecues Sizzle, Ratings Fizzle

Three programs produced fireworks over the Fourth of July week; everything else fizzled. The three programs were the finale of ABC’s Dancing With the Stars, which attracted 22.4 million viewers and was by far the most-watched show of the week; another was the season opener of Big Brother 6, which drew 8.5 million viewers; and the third was the season premiere of USA Network’s Monk, which, with 6.4 million viewers, drew bigger audiences than many network shows last week. Otherwise, the week produced the smallest audiences of the year.

Indeed NBC drew one of its lowest ratings ever with a two-hour showcase of Battlestar Galactica set to air on Sci Fi channel, an NBC corporate sibling. It turned out to be the lowest-rated show of the week on any of the major networks, drawing just 2.3 million viewers.

The evening newscasts finished with virtually unchanged ratings, with NBC leading with 8.7 million viewers, ABC following with 8.2 million, and CBS trailing with 6.8 million. All of the networks experienced a spike in their ratings on Thursday following the terrorist attacks in London.

http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2005-07-13#tv1

You can expect to see more W13 type shows in the next few years on Syfy. Less serialized shows and steampunk tech are what’s gaining the most momentum right now.

You can expect to see more W13 type shows in the next few years on Syfy. Less serialized shows and steampunk tech are what’s gaining the most momentum right now.

BSG in 1978 may very well have had 29 to 65 million viewers, but that was when cable was not anywhere near what it is today. So in all fairness, you cannot compare viewership numbers in 1978 to the numbers of today. A huge hit now on a major network gets less than 20 million. It just doesn’t compare. Just enjoy Caprica for the fun of it. After all, it is only a TV show.

BSG in 1978 may very well have had 29 to 65 million viewers, but that was when cable was not anywhere near what it is today. So in all fairness, you cannot compare viewership numbers in 1978 to the numbers of today. A huge hit now on a major network gets less than 20 million. It just doesn’t compare. Just enjoy Caprica for the fun of it. After all, it is only a TV show.

Just watched 2nd episode n i like it so far.im in my 30s so im old enough to remember the original BSG. loved the new BSG n i like how they are using the classic model cylon for this.It need time to grow so give it a chance its just geting started.personly im looking forward to replication that will lead to an army of cylons
the building of cylon crafts and tecnolgy. this could lead us right in to the first cylon war an entily new spin off there is so much to pay homage 2. Please Give it chance to grow

Just watched 2nd episode n i like it so far.im in my 30s so im old enough to remember the original BSG. loved the new BSG n i like how they are using the classic model cylon for this.It need time to grow so give it a chance its just geting started.personly im looking forward to replication that will lead to an army of cylons
the building of cylon crafts and tecnolgy. this could lead us right in to the first cylon war an entily new spin off there is so much to pay homage 2. Please Give it chance to grow

I watched the pilot on DVD, then the three first episodes aired. I like what they’re doing with this prequel. I care about the characters, and the world they are creating. I’m wondering if the conservative element in our culture is offended by the overt religious dualism…the polytheism vs. the monotheism…with the monotheists seemingly the “bad guys.” Aren’t the monotheists supposed to be the good guys, some might reason? And yet, an aweful lot of monotheists have caused pain and suffering in our world. I am a monotheist, but I share my God with everyone on the planet. I guess I’m a different kind of monotheist.

I watched the pilot on DVD, then the three first episodes aired. I like what they’re doing with this prequel. I care about the characters, and the world they are creating. I’m wondering if the conservative element in our culture is offended by the overt religious dualism…the polytheism vs. the monotheism…with the monotheists seemingly the “bad guys.” Aren’t the monotheists supposed to be the good guys, some might reason? And yet, an aweful lot of monotheists have caused pain and suffering in our world. I am a monotheist, but I share my God with everyone on the planet. I guess I’m a different kind of monotheist.

I just find this show to be such a dull program, I just simply don’t care about a story where I know the ultimate outcome, or the soppy teenagers running around. The production values and acting is solid its just the premise I can’t stand. I think the show will get one full season and then done.

I just find this show to be such a dull program, I just simply don’t care about a story where I know the ultimate outcome, or the soppy teenagers running around. The production values and acting is solid its just the premise I can’t stand. I think the show will get one full season and then done.

sad, its getting better

sad, its getting better

I don’t believe in religion, but I DO believe in a higher power. I am open to other people’s religion. Who am I to critisize? No, the ratings suck for this show, b/c it’s a crappy soap opera. Science fictions turn to a channel called SciFi (SyFy), b/c they want to see dedicated science fiction/fantasy… not some soap opera in sheep’s clothing. Bonnie Hammer is doing a great job with USA. Let her have that, and tell her to stay the heck outta the SciFi. She’s destroying it and doing great harm to the genre… at least on tv. In the meantime, real gurus of the genres like Cameron, will keep breaking records at the box office, which has been the case for the last 40 years.

I don’t believe in religion, but I DO believe in a higher power. I am open to other people’s religion. Who am I to critisize? No, the ratings suck for this show, b/c it’s a crappy soap opera. Science fictions turn to a channel called SciFi (SyFy), b/c they want to see dedicated science fiction/fantasy… not some soap opera in sheep’s clothing. Bonnie Hammer is doing a great job with USA. Let her have that, and tell her to stay the heck outta the SciFi. She’s destroying it and doing great harm to the genre… at least on tv. In the meantime, real gurus of the genres like Cameron, will keep breaking records at the box office, which has been the case for the last 40 years.

this is a very high quality syfy drama. Maybe friday night is not the best slot.

this is a very high quality syfy drama. Maybe friday night is not the best slot.

@Ogla Sungutay, but where else could they put it? Thursday? Up against Fringe and Bones (and the CW bless it )and all the Networks duking it out? Wednesday is Ghost Hunter night; Tuesday is wrestling and Monday is Anime (all of which is doing well for them and cheap to boot). Someone suggested Sunday and that might be the best place to try it out but really, I don’t think its a show with broad appeal, no matter how well done it is, IMO.

@Ogla Sungutay, but where else could they put it? Thursday? Up against Fringe and Bones (and the CW bless it )and all the Networks duking it out? Wednesday is Ghost Hunter night; Tuesday is wrestling and Monday is Anime (all of which is doing well for them and cheap to boot). Someone suggested Sunday and that might be the best place to try it out but really, I don’t think its a show with broad appeal, no matter how well done it is, IMO.

@Cimmer:
Sunday didn’t work for BSG in it last season.
Friday is a good spot, as long as it’s a strong line-up. If they had SGU, Caprica and Sanctuary together, they’d all benefit. Though, it would be kinda difficult to put any one of them at 8 PM unless the SG producers decide to lighten up on the sex.

@Cimmer:
Sunday didn’t work for BSG in it last season.
Friday is a good spot, as long as it’s a strong line-up. If they had SGU, Caprica and Sanctuary together, they’d all benefit. Though, it would be kinda difficult to put any one of them at 8 PM unless the SG producers decide to lighten up on the sex.

@red – you’d put all those shows together? And what would Syfy call it? A take off on their Saturday Night movie ads – The Most Depressing Night on Television? LOL

I would pair up Caprica with reruns of BSG. Honestly I think it would help. I mean they’re gonna pair SGU up with Merlin for goodness sake. Well maybe they don’t have access to BSG reruns.

@red – you’d put all those shows together? And what would Syfy call it? A take off on their Saturday Night movie ads – The Most Depressing Night on Television? LOL

I would pair up Caprica with reruns of BSG. Honestly I think it would help. I mean they’re gonna pair SGU up with Merlin for goodness sake. Well maybe they don’t have access to BSG reruns.

“In the meantime, real gurus of the genres like Cameron, will keep breaking records at the box office, which has been the case for the last 40 years.”

Why don’t people realize the fallacy with this line of thinking? The reason why movies like Avatar or LOTR – huge genre spectaculars – succeed is because they’re friggin spectacles which need to be experienced on the big screen. And they’re self-contained stories. A get-away in a fantastic world, without needing to get really involved in the movie’s universe, as would be the case with a TV show.

And, of course, there is the fact that a movie like Avatar costs half a billion. You can get away with outrageous costs because you’re selling a unique experience and people will flock to see it. On a 40-million per season budget, you can’t deliver such spectacle, so you’re stuck with the core sci-fi fanbase. And that really isn’t that big.

“In the meantime, real gurus of the genres like Cameron, will keep breaking records at the box office, which has been the case for the last 40 years.”

Why don’t people realize the fallacy with this line of thinking? The reason why movies like Avatar or LOTR – huge genre spectaculars – succeed is because they’re friggin spectacles which need to be experienced on the big screen. And they’re self-contained stories. A get-away in a fantastic world, without needing to get really involved in the movie’s universe, as would be the case with a TV show.

And, of course, there is the fact that a movie like Avatar costs half a billion. You can get away with outrageous costs because you’re selling a unique experience and people will flock to see it. On a 40-million per season budget, you can’t deliver such spectacle, so you’re stuck with the core sci-fi fanbase. And that really isn’t that big.

@Cimmer Yeah. most depressing sounds about right – except that the second-half of SGU season 1 has a lot more action in it. As does Sanctuary. If you sandwich Caprica in-between them, it could turn out some good results.

Or hey, if not that, then stick with Merlin at 8 and SGU at 9, as they’re doing starting in April, and Caprica at 10. At the end of the day, the point is that Caprica needs something to support it. Maybe BSG reruns would work, but I doubt it. I dunno, the fact that it’s a prequel doesn’t make it work, IMO. Persoanlly, I think reruns of SG-1 or SG-A would work better than BSG.

@Cimmer Yeah. most depressing sounds about right – except that the second-half of SGU season 1 has a lot more action in it. As does Sanctuary. If you sandwich Caprica in-between them, it could turn out some good results.

Or hey, if not that, then stick with Merlin at 8 and SGU at 9, as they’re doing starting in April, and Caprica at 10. At the end of the day, the point is that Caprica needs something to support it. Maybe BSG reruns would work, but I doubt it. I dunno, the fact that it’s a prequel doesn’t make it work, IMO. Persoanlly, I think reruns of SG-1 or SG-A would work better than BSG.

STAR TREK TOS became huge on tv, not due to billion dollar spectacle f/x. It struggled at first but it became a juggurnaut! Why? …b/c of excellent writing, acting, IMAGINATION and b/c it was ORIGINAL source material material. It wasn’t a friggin soap opera! Get a clue!

STAR TREK TOS became huge on tv, not due to billion dollar spectacle f/x. It struggled at first but it became a juggurnaut! Why? …b/c of excellent writing, acting, IMAGINATION and b/c it was ORIGINAL source material material. It wasn’t a friggin soap opera! Get a clue!

ST TOS? You mean the one that got canceled? That one? In a time when there were just the broadcast networks? That one? Get a clue.

ST TOS? You mean the one that got canceled? That one? In a time when there were just the broadcast networks? That one? Get a clue.

And LOL at “excellent acting”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

And LOL at “excellent acting”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The online chemistry between Spock, Bones and Kirk was one of the best in tv history. …up there with the chemistry between Mulder & Scully. Millions of fans are against you on this my friend. STAR TREK TOS struggled at first but became a ratings juggernaut. To deny that is foolish. Ya know? The franchise that Moore piggybacked off of to even make a blip on the radar? He STILL hasn’t created anything of his own that has been successful. To attack STAR TREK TOS and praise Moore on the other… Lol Wow! Your argument looks totally clueless and contradictory.

The online chemistry between Spock, Bones and Kirk was one of the best in tv history. …up there with the chemistry between Mulder & Scully. Millions of fans are against you on this my friend. STAR TREK TOS struggled at first but became a ratings juggernaut. To deny that is foolish. Ya know? The franchise that Moore piggybacked off of to even make a blip on the radar? He STILL hasn’t created anything of his own that has been successful. To attack STAR TREK TOS and praise Moore on the other… Lol Wow! Your argument looks totally clueless and contradictory.

The online chemistry between Spock, Bones and Kirk was one of the best in tv history. …up there with the chemistry between Mulder & Scully. Millions of fans are against you on this my friend. STAR TREK TOS struggled at first but became a ratings juggernaut. To deny that is foolish. Ya know? The franchise that Moore piggybacked off of to even make a blip on the radar? He STILL hasn’t created anything of his own that has been successful. To attack STAR TREK TOS and praise Moore on the other… Lol Wow! Your argument looks totally clueless and contradictory.

STAR TREK TOS was broadcast in syndication IMMEDIATELY after it went off the air, where it became huge. Moore’s imposter BSG has yet to be bought in syndication, even though the STARGATES were in syndication on the networks even before SG-A ws even off the air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series

The online chemistry between Spock, Bones and Kirk was one of the best in tv history. …up there with the chemistry between Mulder & Scully. Millions of fans are against you on this my friend. STAR TREK TOS struggled at first but became a ratings juggernaut. To deny that is foolish. Ya know? The franchise that Moore piggybacked off of to even make a blip on the radar? He STILL hasn’t created anything of his own that has been successful. To attack STAR TREK TOS and praise Moore on the other… Lol Wow! Your argument looks totally clueless and contradictory.

STAR TREK TOS was broadcast in syndication IMMEDIATELY after it went off the air, where it became huge. Moore’s imposter BSG has yet to be bought in syndication, even though the STARGATES were in syndication on the networks even before SG-A ws even off the air.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series

Why can’t all the niche channels just stay where they belong-niche content? I used to check the new SCIFI schedule constantly – re-runs and new shows alike, all scifi all the time…I had so much to choose from and loved it. Now, I can’t hardly ever find a decent scifi show and that’s just ridiculous…but we should have know it wouldn’t get better when they decided to change the spelling of their name to increase the audience…..COMPLETE IDIOTS!

I actually enjoy soaps, but don’t mess up my scifi with soaps…they belong on soapnet and daytime tv…scifi should be scifi and quit dissing the fans by trying to be everything to everyone and ending up being nothing….SLEUTH may be one of the few niche channels that is still all about mystery and crime. All the other niches are going down the tubes with their original fan base because their trying to be LIFETIME/USA/FAMILY CHANNEL/TNT/USA all at the same time while killing off the very people who got their networks going in the first place….the very loyal, and ignored niche fans.

Why can’t all the niche channels just stay where they belong-niche content? I used to check the new SCIFI schedule constantly – re-runs and new shows alike, all scifi all the time…I had so much to choose from and loved it. Now, I can’t hardly ever find a decent scifi show and that’s just ridiculous…but we should have know it wouldn’t get better when they decided to change the spelling of their name to increase the audience…..COMPLETE IDIOTS!

I actually enjoy soaps, but don’t mess up my scifi with soaps…they belong on soapnet and daytime tv…scifi should be scifi and quit dissing the fans by trying to be everything to everyone and ending up being nothing….SLEUTH may be one of the few niche channels that is still all about mystery and crime. All the other niches are going down the tubes with their original fan base because their trying to be LIFETIME/USA/FAMILY CHANNEL/TNT/USA all at the same time while killing off the very people who got their networks going in the first place….the very loyal, and ignored niche fans.

@red, I don’t know about that line up; in theory it sounds good but I don’t think you’d be doing SGU any favors by having it next to Caprica for comparison – space soap to space soap (excuse me ‘character based drama with a scifi twist’ ) No, Syfy either needs to get another really good scifi show or counter program and pair Caprica up with something like W13 and maybe reruns of say BSG or Farscape or SG1. IMHO

If Syfy is going to remake itself it should take a page from Fox’s book and go get some writers and take some chances. SGU, Caprica, W13 even is not taking chances, IMO. Now Farscape was taking a chance and even SG1 back in the day. See if they can get Seth MacFarlane to give another scifi animation a chance or go overseas (they’re borrowing Brit programming right and left anyway, go to the source). But ITA with some previous posters, Syfy needs to figure out who they’re trying to sell to because there are other channels that do character based dramas much better. Btw, whatever happened to the astronaut show that was on Tuesdays or something? Is that gone?

@red, I don’t know about that line up; in theory it sounds good but I don’t think you’d be doing SGU any favors by having it next to Caprica for comparison – space soap to space soap (excuse me ‘character based drama with a scifi twist’ ) No, Syfy either needs to get another really good scifi show or counter program and pair Caprica up with something like W13 and maybe reruns of say BSG or Farscape or SG1. IMHO

If Syfy is going to remake itself it should take a page from Fox’s book and go get some writers and take some chances. SGU, Caprica, W13 even is not taking chances, IMO. Now Farscape was taking a chance and even SG1 back in the day. See if they can get Seth MacFarlane to give another scifi animation a chance or go overseas (they’re borrowing Brit programming right and left anyway, go to the source). But ITA with some previous posters, Syfy needs to figure out who they’re trying to sell to because there are other channels that do character based dramas much better. Btw, whatever happened to the astronaut show that was on Tuesdays or something? Is that gone?

More evidence that people watched BG because it was BG and not because RM could write.

So SciFi was so impressed with RM that they gave him another series? Is that really evidence that RM can write?

Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) makes millions of dollars as a singer yet she can’t sing. Same thing with RM and writing apparently.

More evidence that people watched BG because it was BG and not because RM could write.

So SciFi was so impressed with RM that they gave him another series? Is that really evidence that RM can write?

Miley Cyrus (aka Hannah Montana) makes millions of dollars as a singer yet she can’t sing. Same thing with RM and writing apparently.

SyFy please hire someone that will cater to actual sci-fi fans.
I agree that there are many many fans that like science fiction programs if they are done well (TNG, X-Files, Heroes S1).
Theres money to be made but you can’t make futuristic soaps and dramas and think we cant tell the difference.
Many of us actually read books and know good storytelling when we see it.

Also horror and fantasy aren’t sc-fi and that attitude is why no matter how much you promote some of these shows many wont watch them.

Someone who thinks that sci-fi, horror and fantasy are all the same should not be in charge of this channel.

SyFy please hire someone that will cater to actual sci-fi fans.
I agree that there are many many fans that like science fiction programs if they are done well (TNG, X-Files, Heroes S1).
Theres money to be made but you can’t make futuristic soaps and dramas and think we cant tell the difference.
Many of us actually read books and know good storytelling when we see it.

Also horror and fantasy aren’t sc-fi and that attitude is why no matter how much you promote some of these shows many wont watch them.

Someone who thinks that sci-fi, horror and fantasy are all the same should not be in charge of this channel.

I believe there is a difference between science fiction and fantasy, as I am a fan of both, but I despise horror, especially torture porn like those morbid SAW movies, etc. Those movies have no place on a channel SciFi/SyFy. They cater to the lowest common denominator.

I believe there is a difference between science fiction and fantasy, as I am a fan of both, but I despise horror, especially torture porn like those morbid SAW movies, etc. Those movies have no place on a channel SciFi/SyFy. They cater to the lowest common denominator.

Moore a few more points

1 – Again comparing the viewing figures of a show from broadcast television 30 years ago to the viewing figures of a cable show today is ridiculous. Its ridiculous enough to compare broadcast shows of 30 years ago to broadcast shows of today. It becomes even more ridiculous when you try to use those number to determine quality. The fact that more people watched it doesn’t even mean that more people liked it or still do.

2 – SyFy (or Sci-Fi as it was) tried to be a niche network with genre content and nobody watched. Like it or not networks are businesses and have to be run for profit, if audiences were actually watching the sci-fi content and ever had watched the sci-fi content then the network wouldn’t have felt the need to change and evolve.

Moore a few more points

1 – Again comparing the viewing figures of a show from broadcast television 30 years ago to the viewing figures of a cable show today is ridiculous. Its ridiculous enough to compare broadcast shows of 30 years ago to broadcast shows of today. It becomes even more ridiculous when you try to use those number to determine quality. The fact that more people watched it doesn’t even mean that more people liked it or still do.

2 – SyFy (or Sci-Fi as it was) tried to be a niche network with genre content and nobody watched. Like it or not networks are businesses and have to be run for profit, if audiences were actually watching the sci-fi content and ever had watched the sci-fi content then the network wouldn’t have felt the need to change and evolve.

WTF PEOPLE! Carprica is a Good Show.

It Amazes me the Garbage people DO WATCH..This is BS

They CANT CANCEL CAPRICA FTW!!!!!

WTF PEOPLE! Carprica is a Good Show.

It Amazes me the Garbage people DO WATCH..This is BS

They CANT CANCEL CAPRICA FTW!!!!!

Alex

Alex
Yes cable channels are businesses that make a claim of providing a NICHE audience with niche programing so they are paid by EVERY SUBSCRIBER that has cable. To get on the cable systems the promise of providing this NICHE audience was used to be guaranteed money every month even if the cable customer never watches the channel. If the cable channels can abandon their NICHE then subscribers should bee able to EXCLUDE them being paid each month. In other words if SYFY does not want to keep their contract with the cable customers and move away form their NICHE than I want to deprive them of paying them any longer.

The cable chancels get much more money form their fees they charge cable companies that come from customers that are often forced to pay for the channel they never watch because the generalis someone else pays for theirs ( the ones they watch). If all cable channels become general audience channels then all channels should be chosen or rejected by cable customers at their choice. Cable channels should not have it both ways. Business is Business so I should not be forced to pay for all the BS programing against my will, or the niche channels should KEEP their commitment to programing for the niche audience.

Alex

Alex
Yes cable channels are businesses that make a claim of providing a NICHE audience with niche programing so they are paid by EVERY SUBSCRIBER that has cable. To get on the cable systems the promise of providing this NICHE audience was used to be guaranteed money every month even if the cable customer never watches the channel. If the cable channels can abandon their NICHE then subscribers should bee able to EXCLUDE them being paid each month. In other words if SYFY does not want to keep their contract with the cable customers and move away form their NICHE than I want to deprive them of paying them any longer.

The cable chancels get much more money form their fees they charge cable companies that come from customers that are often forced to pay for the channel they never watch because the generalis someone else pays for theirs ( the ones they watch). If all cable channels become general audience channels then all channels should be chosen or rejected by cable customers at their choice. Cable channels should not have it both ways. Business is Business so I should not be forced to pay for all the BS programing against my will, or the niche channels should KEEP their commitment to programing for the niche audience.

@ save Sci Fi

SyFy has no privity of contract or a contract for that matter with cable subscribers. SyFy contracts with cable providers who then offer SyFy’s content to the cable subscribers. Your will is irrelevant to the point that you have the power to subscribe or not subscribe.

@ save Sci Fi

SyFy has no privity of contract or a contract for that matter with cable subscribers. SyFy contracts with cable providers who then offer SyFy’s content to the cable subscribers. Your will is irrelevant to the point that you have the power to subscribe or not subscribe.

Alex,

In a perfect world if there were niche programing locations on cable channels and if the owners could not be successful with the genre then they (the company owning the channel) would lose their spot on the cable systems and someone capable of managing the genre programing would take over and provide the NICHE. If no one could the spot would just be eliminated. It is not a perfect world so owners of cable channels use the niche idea to get on to the cable system and then refuse to spend money on programing that already exist and fail to get the niche audience and then blame the audience for not watching substandard programing. If Syfy was to go after the best Science Fiction programing they would have the science fiction audience which is reported to be about ten percent of the population or at least thirty million folks , so if only ten percent watched they would average over three million and be the best watched channel on cable. Instead they chose to be a substandard programmer and failed, it being their own fault.

Alex,

In a perfect world if there were niche programing locations on cable channels and if the owners could not be successful with the genre then they (the company owning the channel) would lose their spot on the cable systems and someone capable of managing the genre programing would take over and provide the NICHE. If no one could the spot would just be eliminated. It is not a perfect world so owners of cable channels use the niche idea to get on to the cable system and then refuse to spend money on programing that already exist and fail to get the niche audience and then blame the audience for not watching substandard programing. If Syfy was to go after the best Science Fiction programing they would have the science fiction audience which is reported to be about ten percent of the population or at least thirty million folks , so if only ten percent watched they would average over three million and be the best watched channel on cable. Instead they chose to be a substandard programmer and failed, it being their own fault.

@Michael J

“Your will is irrelevant to the point that you have the power to subscribe or not subscribe.”"

That is why I have a complaint because I have to PAY against my will and the channel was give a spot as a NICHE channel. I pay Syfy a fee every month to provide me with niche programing, the contract is IMPLIIED and that is why there is a movement trying to get freedom of choice in chosing the cable channels we pay for. If I was not paying them a fee each month I would not have any right to complain about being abandonded by a channel that was created to provide NICHE programming. TV Land is doing them same thing to their subscribers.( I do not watch TV Land)

It always amazes me how the free market folks aways avoid admitting consumers should not have to pay their free market masters for services not provided. Ok to make me pay, but not ok to be required to provide the progrsming (the service) we pay for. Advertising income is secondary to cable fees the channels colect. Most cable channels can not exist on advertsiing income alone. That is why the broadcast model is in trouble for the broadcast nwetworks.

@Michael J

“Your will is irrelevant to the point that you have the power to subscribe or not subscribe.”"

That is why I have a complaint because I have to PAY against my will and the channel was give a spot as a NICHE channel. I pay Syfy a fee every month to provide me with niche programing, the contract is IMPLIIED and that is why there is a movement trying to get freedom of choice in chosing the cable channels we pay for. If I was not paying them a fee each month I would not have any right to complain about being abandonded by a channel that was created to provide NICHE programming. TV Land is doing them same thing to their subscribers.( I do not watch TV Land)

It always amazes me how the free market folks aways avoid admitting consumers should not have to pay their free market masters for services not provided. Ok to make me pay, but not ok to be required to provide the progrsming (the service) we pay for. Advertising income is secondary to cable fees the channels colect. Most cable channels can not exist on advertsiing income alone. That is why the broadcast model is in trouble for the broadcast nwetworks.

Save Sci-Fi, the last thing cable providers want from basic cable channels (and SyFy is basic cable, right?) is niche programming, particularly now that cable is expanding. What providers want is mass appeal shows and networks with additional premium channels that feature niche programming. If SyFy where a premium channel then I’d agree that it should focus on what brought it to the dance – ‘genre’ television but the chances are that to maintain a spot as a basic cable channel there was pressure from providers to produce more mass audience/appeal shows.

I think the general lack of successful sci-fi shows on cable and broadcast for decades should tell you everything you need to know about it as a commercially viable television option.

Save Sci-Fi, the last thing cable providers want from basic cable channels (and SyFy is basic cable, right?) is niche programming, particularly now that cable is expanding. What providers want is mass appeal shows and networks with additional premium channels that feature niche programming. If SyFy where a premium channel then I’d agree that it should focus on what brought it to the dance – ‘genre’ television but the chances are that to maintain a spot as a basic cable channel there was pressure from providers to produce more mass audience/appeal shows.

I think the general lack of successful sci-fi shows on cable and broadcast for decades should tell you everything you need to know about it as a commercially viable television option.

Alex,

You are wrong if you think cable companies desire to defend folks having to pay for channels that are ALL THE SAME. They have admitted at hearings that they are being forced to put channels on their systems as package deals and can not chose what channels they provide. They prefer every niche be provided for so everyone has a reason to subscribe. Thousands are leaving cable because they have very little variety. Most folks watch similar programs most of the time, look at CBS and the procedural shows that consistently do very well. Huge numbers prefer them and some watch very little else.

Basic cable has 13 channels, to get Syfy the second tier has to be purchased which cost about five times more than basic cable. HBO etc, is pay cable but to get Syfy I have to pay for about a hundred and twenty channels I never watch. And folks that want say TV Land have to pay for Syfy and it goes on and on. If the corporations did not control everything freedom of choice would exist, if so then I could be told to SHUT UP, but until then I will fight back any way I can, which may end up with my leaving any cable (actually satellite) and just pay online for what I want to watch, I already would have except I still have a contract for a few more months (which I will honor).

Alex,

You are wrong if you think cable companies desire to defend folks having to pay for channels that are ALL THE SAME. They have admitted at hearings that they are being forced to put channels on their systems as package deals and can not chose what channels they provide. They prefer every niche be provided for so everyone has a reason to subscribe. Thousands are leaving cable because they have very little variety. Most folks watch similar programs most of the time, look at CBS and the procedural shows that consistently do very well. Huge numbers prefer them and some watch very little else.

Basic cable has 13 channels, to get Syfy the second tier has to be purchased which cost about five times more than basic cable. HBO etc, is pay cable but to get Syfy I have to pay for about a hundred and twenty channels I never watch. And folks that want say TV Land have to pay for Syfy and it goes on and on. If the corporations did not control everything freedom of choice would exist, if so then I could be told to SHUT UP, but until then I will fight back any way I can, which may end up with my leaving any cable (actually satellite) and just pay online for what I want to watch, I already would have except I still have a contract for a few more months (which I will honor).

Alex said:

think the general lack of successful sci-fi shows on cable and broadcast for decades should tell you everything you need to know about it as a commercially viable television option.

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STAR TREK has had more spin off than any tv show in tv history. It was a jaggernaut in the ratings for quite a while. XFILES has huge in rhe ratings and an excelent show. LOST is huge and is fantasy, which is in the same family as science fiction. THE TWILIGHT ZONE, THE PRISONER USA miniseries, THE OUTTER LIMITS (old and new), etc, etc.

SyFy under the ex-LIFETIME CHANNEL executive, Bonnie Hammer.. the queen of reality tv and former WWE employee is the problem and the reason why their shows sucks so bad. She has no CLUE or care about quality science fiction.

Alex said:

think the general lack of successful sci-fi shows on cable and broadcast for decades should tell you everything you need to know about it as a commercially viable television option.

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STAR TREK has had more spin off than any tv show in tv history. It was a jaggernaut in the ratings for quite a while. XFILES has huge in rhe ratings and an excelent show. LOST is huge and is fantasy, which is in the same family as science fiction. THE TWILIGHT ZONE, THE PRISONER USA miniseries, THE OUTTER LIMITS (old and new), etc, etc.

SyFy under the ex-LIFETIME CHANNEL executive, Bonnie Hammer.. the queen of reality tv and former WWE employee is the problem and the reason why their shows sucks so bad. She has no CLUE or care about quality science fiction.

There are too many great, successful science fiction/fantasy tv shows over the years to name here: THE INCREDIBLE HULK, HEREOS, DARK ANGEL, the original BSG, FRINGE, etc. …so, Alex your claim falls on deaf ears. All you’re doing is making excuses for SyFy’s total crap product and desire to move into the realm of dramas, in their yearning to win their precious awards and critical acclaim. Science fiction fans have slways been shunned by mainstream awards, etc. A large group of critics even trashed STAR WARS when it came out in 1977. …but, ya know what? It’s the FANS and the QUALITY that matter stupid! Screw the critics and screw your critical acclaim. They should put people in charge of SciFi (SyFy) who have a real love the genre, instead of some self righteous suits in pursuit of critical acclaim.

There are too many great, successful science fiction/fantasy tv shows over the years to name here: THE INCREDIBLE HULK, HEREOS, DARK ANGEL, the original BSG, FRINGE, etc. …so, Alex your claim falls on deaf ears. All you’re doing is making excuses for SyFy’s total crap product and desire to move into the realm of dramas, in their yearning to win their precious awards and critical acclaim. Science fiction fans have slways been shunned by mainstream awards, etc. A large group of critics even trashed STAR WARS when it came out in 1977. …but, ya know what? It’s the FANS and the QUALITY that matter stupid! Screw the critics and screw your critical acclaim. They should put people in charge of SciFi (SyFy) who have a real love the genre, instead of some self righteous suits in pursuit of critical acclaim.

p.s. I wasn’t calling you stupid. Just mimicking Ron Moore’s “It’s the characters, stupid,” quote.

p.s. I wasn’t calling you stupid. Just mimicking Ron Moore’s “It’s the characters, stupid,” quote.

Argh. I really really like this show, and was excited to have another Jane Espenson-product on my TV, now that “Dollhouse” has closed shop. *sniff* Why do all the shows I love (“Caprica, Castle, Dollhouse”) have crappy numbers whilst drivel I despise (“Real Housewives, AI, Jersey Shores”) delivers ratings???

I’m hoping that Sy-Fy forgets that they’re owned by NBC and does something right, like partnering “Caprica” up with a solid lead-in, and giving the show some additional support and time to develop. I mean, “Heroes” is still on, so there’s hope…right?

Argh. I really really like this show, and was excited to have another Jane Espenson-product on my TV, now that “Dollhouse” has closed shop. *sniff* Why do all the shows I love (“Caprica, Castle, Dollhouse”) have crappy numbers whilst drivel I despise (“Real Housewives, AI, Jersey Shores”) delivers ratings???

I’m hoping that Sy-Fy forgets that they’re owned by NBC and does something right, like partnering “Caprica” up with a solid lead-in, and giving the show some additional support and time to develop. I mean, “Heroes” is still on, so there’s hope…right?

[...] Galactica that has BSG fans … well, puzzled. The show’s ratings, according to TVbythenumbers.com, are slipping, and that’s no doubt in part due to the fact that the show is so completely [...]

I know the problem for me is the lengthy hype for Caprica. Now that it is finally being shown they are showing repeat after repeat and are already skipping a week (Feb 12). I personally like the show with the above exception and the fact that they are stringing the story out unbearably slowly. I agree that since the change to SyFy the programming choices are generally bad and slipping away from the original core viewers, SciFi fans! SyFy get over yourselves and just get on with it. By the way, I am a minority viewer in most opinions. I am a female scifi fan. I loved BSG both the original (I’m old) and the new retooled BSG. I was looking forward to seeing how it all started and now fear that it will be canceled before anything of merit is shown. SyFy, get off of your fanny and give us some real content, not only in Caprica but in your future programming as well.

I know the problem for me is the lengthy hype for Caprica. Now that it is finally being shown they are showing repeat after repeat and are already skipping a week (Feb 12). I personally like the show with the above exception and the fact that they are stringing the story out unbearably slowly. I agree that since the change to SyFy the programming choices are generally bad and slipping away from the original core viewers, SciFi fans! SyFy get over yourselves and just get on with it. By the way, I am a minority viewer in most opinions. I am a female scifi fan. I loved BSG both the original (I’m old) and the new retooled BSG. I was looking forward to seeing how it all started and now fear that it will be canceled before anything of merit is shown. SyFy, get off of your fanny and give us some real content, not only in Caprica but in your future programming as well.

Caprica is Craprica

I cannot believe how boring it is. I am actually finding the ad breaks more interesting !

Caprica is Craprica

I cannot believe how boring it is. I am actually finding the ad breaks more interesting !

[...] to TVbythenumbers.com, ratings for Syfy Channel’s sci-fi soap opera “Caprica,” started low with the pilot and [...]

If wanted to watch dramas, I would watch TNT or USA, where they’re always playing some version of CSI or LAW & ORDER or COLD CASE, every hour of the day like MTV. Enough of this crap, already!

If wanted to watch dramas, I would watch TNT or USA, where they’re always playing some version of CSI or LAW & ORDER or COLD CASE, every hour of the day like MTV. Enough of this crap, already!

@MooresGalacicaRipOffSux: give it a rest.

I was a fan of the original BSG as a kid and teen. Watching it as an adult though makes me cringe, it is terrible! Your obsessive lack of perspective is really tiresome. You could make your point succinctly in a single post or two rather than posting tirade after tirade.

The new series had it’s own problems, primarily that Religion was being used in the same way that the Transporters are used in Star Trek to solve every problem. Create a problem too big to solve neatly during the hour? NO problem, invent a miracle!

@MooresGalacicaRipOffSux: give it a rest.

I was a fan of the original BSG as a kid and teen. Watching it as an adult though makes me cringe, it is terrible! Your obsessive lack of perspective is really tiresome. You could make your point succinctly in a single post or two rather than posting tirade after tirade.

The new series had it’s own problems, primarily that Religion was being used in the same way that the Transporters are used in Star Trek to solve every problem. Create a problem too big to solve neatly during the hour? NO problem, invent a miracle!

I was a big BSG fan for the first couple of season, but then I had my fill Ron Moore and he seemed more and more the pretentious egomaniac.

I watched the first episode of Caprica and gave up. I am happy to see something this lame go down the tubes. Maybe Rons swelled head can shrink a bit now.

Though I have to say prequels almost never work. It is easy to ignore when you already know the final outcome. But it doesn’t help that is another defying gravity like soap-fi.

I was a big BSG fan for the first couple of season, but then I had my fill Ron Moore and he seemed more and more the pretentious egomaniac.

I watched the first episode of Caprica and gave up. I am happy to see something this lame go down the tubes. Maybe Rons swelled head can shrink a bit now.

Though I have to say prequels almost never work. It is easy to ignore when you already know the final outcome. But it doesn’t help that is another defying gravity like soap-fi.

pls cancel this s*it. it is a waste of money and it hurts my eyes. besides it is the failed attemped to cash in on BSGs sucess from season 1+2. ron mooore started a great show and the he fucked it up. This time its not even a great start. It just sucks and is very very boring. Don’t care about any char. Let em die!

Please have mercy: Cancel the show and let’s pretend it never happend.

(BSG 1980 was REALLY bad! – but Caprica is even worse)

pls cancel this s*it. it is a waste of money and it hurts my eyes. besides it is the failed attemped to cash in on BSGs sucess from season 1+2. ron mooore started a great show and the he fucked it up. This time its not even a great start. It just sucks and is very very boring. Don’t care about any char. Let em die!

Please have mercy: Cancel the show and let’s pretend it never happend.

(BSG 1980 was REALLY bad! – but Caprica is even worse)

One word: torrents.

Do you think ANYONE torrents ‘Swamp Loggers’? Me neither.

The problem here that I see is that a good portion of the tech inclined just torrents CAP and goes out Friday night (Or watches Swamp Loggers and then torrents CAP)

SyFy rewind doesn’t happen until five days after the air date… policies like this are like athletes slicing their Achilles before a triathlon. Why can’t the online content run concurrently with the live broadcast.

The advertisers wouldn’t have it? You can have Hulu-esque commercials implanted.

If it’s online the affiliates won’t have people watching their cable? If someone is going to watch it online, they will whether it’s condoned or not.

The best practice is to seize on this and exploit the technology of streaming online or gut yourself from the inside by wearing blinders and saying ‘Well, our data sheet says not enough people are watching this on TV, therefore it has a weak following and we should jettison it and put on another ‘Spook Hunters’ No, that’s not better at all; just no one is going to go to the trouble to watch Spook Hunters online and you’ll find them stoned with Cheetos dribbling from their mouths watching a first run of it simply because the viewer doesn’t care to invest in something more substantial at that time.

Of course there is the iTunes season pass, but 34.00 for SD for 7 episodes? That’s almost $5/episode… try $1.99 and $2.99 for HD and watch people pony up. “Here, let me show you the right way to blow your own foot off…”

Its just a shame that shows like this will suffer as old network media is dragged into the light of video on demand via internet before a workable equilibrium is established letting the networks actually tally who watches what and allow the consumer discretion and value for the selections they choose.

One word: torrents.

Do you think ANYONE torrents ‘Swamp Loggers’? Me neither.

The problem here that I see is that a good portion of the tech inclined just torrents CAP and goes out Friday night (Or watches Swamp Loggers and then torrents CAP)

SyFy rewind doesn’t happen until five days after the air date… policies like this are like athletes slicing their Achilles before a triathlon. Why can’t the online content run concurrently with the live broadcast.

The advertisers wouldn’t have it? You can have Hulu-esque commercials implanted.

If it’s online the affiliates won’t have people watching their cable? If someone is going to watch it online, they will whether it’s condoned or not.

The best practice is to seize on this and exploit the technology of streaming online or gut yourself from the inside by wearing blinders and saying ‘Well, our data sheet says not enough people are watching this on TV, therefore it has a weak following and we should jettison it and put on another ‘Spook Hunters’ No, that’s not better at all; just no one is going to go to the trouble to watch Spook Hunters online and you’ll find them stoned with Cheetos dribbling from their mouths watching a first run of it simply because the viewer doesn’t care to invest in something more substantial at that time.

Of course there is the iTunes season pass, but 34.00 for SD for 7 episodes? That’s almost $5/episode… try $1.99 and $2.99 for HD and watch people pony up. “Here, let me show you the right way to blow your own foot off…”

Its just a shame that shows like this will suffer as old network media is dragged into the light of video on demand via internet before a workable equilibrium is established letting the networks actually tally who watches what and allow the consumer discretion and value for the selections they choose.