Parenthood was remarkably stable. Good sign, well see if it has legs…

Parenthood was remarkably stable. Good sign, well see if it has legs…

Parenthood was remarkably stable. Good sign, well see if it has legs…

It actually grew throughout the hour for men and women 18-34

It actually grew throughout the hour for men and women 18-34

It actually grew throughout the hour for men and women 18-34

Lauren Graham was Awesome….

Lauren Graham was Awesome….

Lost wins as most watched scripted show on A18-49 of the night.

Lost wins as most watched scripted show on A18-49 of the night.

Lauren Graham was Awesome….

Lost wins as most watched scripted show on A18-49 of the night.

Altair, you could write ABC press releases!

Altair, you could write ABC press releases!

Altair, you could write ABC press releases!

Lost’s ratings are actually pretty amazing when you think about how long it’s been on and how complicated the story line is. Where will its devoted fans go after May?

Lost’s ratings are actually pretty amazing when you think about how long it’s been on and how complicated the story line is. Where will its devoted fans go after May?

Lost’s ratings are actually pretty amazing when you think about how long it’s been on and how complicated the story line is. Where will its devoted fans go after May?

@Rich

BASEBALL =)

@Rich

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@Rich

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I feel like Parenthood won’t have staying power.

I feel like Parenthood won’t have staying power.

I feel like Parenthood won’t have staying power.

I disagree with you yoshue, but well see.

I disagree with you yoshue, but well see.

wow. Parenthood had an amazing retention out of The Biggest Loser.

wow. Parenthood had an amazing retention out of The Biggest Loser.

I disagree with you yoshue, but well see.

wow. Parenthood had an amazing retention out of The Biggest Loser.

TUESDAY NIGHT 10PM LINE UP SOON..a little competition never hurt anyone

CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

TUESDAY NIGHT 10PM LINE UP SOON..a little competition never hurt anyone

CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

TUESDAY NIGHT 10PM LINE UP SOON..a little competition never hurt anyone

CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

Its weird how Lost and NCIS almost have the same demo but NCIS has 10 million more viewers. Damn CBS skews old, too old!!

Its weird how Lost and NCIS almost have the same demo but NCIS has 10 million more viewers. Damn CBS skews old, too old!!

What is everyone complaining about — parenthood did strong numbers compared to what nbc normally gets and it’s actually a good show.

I wonder how much they had to reshoot because of the loss of maura tierney.

What is everyone complaining about — parenthood did strong numbers compared to what nbc normally gets and it’s actually a good show.

I wonder how much they had to reshoot because of the loss of maura tierney.

Your right Rob. Those old people from 49 to what 55 that all the networks take for granted they’ll get. Seems as if CBS is the only one that’s getting them and yeah I know these people are disposable in the eyes of TV networks that is all except for CBS who’s oddly been the most stable network for the last 10 years.

Your right Rob. Those old people from 49 to what 55 that all the networks take for granted they’ll get. Seems as if CBS is the only one that’s getting them and yeah I know these people are disposable in the eyes of TV networks that is all except for CBS who’s oddly been the most stable network for the last 10 years.

What is everyone complaining about — parenthood did strong numbers compared to what nbc normally gets and it’s actually a good show.

I wonder how much they had to reshoot because of the loss of maura tierney.

Your right Rob. Those old people from 49 to what 55 that all the networks take for granted they’ll get. Seems as if CBS is the only one that’s getting them and yeah I know these people are disposable in the eyes of TV networks that is all except for CBS who’s oddly been the most stable network for the last 10 years.

Yikes forget my prior post – wrong thread.

Yikes forget my prior post – wrong thread.

Yikes forget my prior post – wrong thread.

Bill….ABC has scripted hits while FOX relies on reality crap

Bill….ABC has scripted hits while FOX relies on reality crap

Bill….ABC has scripted hits while FOX relies on reality crap

Ah, but whose bottom line is better Joleen, ABC’s with the scripted “hits” or FOX’s with their reality “crap”?

Ah, but whose bottom line is better Joleen, ABC’s with the scripted “hits” or FOX’s with their reality “crap”?

Ah, but whose bottom line is better Joleen, ABC’s with the scripted “hits” or FOX’s with their reality “crap”?

That sucks for the biggest loser, last nights episode was good.

That sucks for the biggest loser, last nights episode was good.

That sucks for the biggest loser, last nights episode was good.

I’d bet that Parenthood improves writing wise from the pilot. It will grow.

I’d bet that Parenthood improves writing wise from the pilot. It will grow.

I’d bet that Parenthood improves writing wise from the pilot. It will grow.

Funny you say that Joleen, since House has a better 18-49 average than everything on ABC. Or is House not scripted in your fantasy world?!

Funny you say that Joleen, since House has a better 18-49 average than everything on ABC. Or is House not scripted in your fantasy world?!

Funny you say that Joleen, since House has a better 18-49 average than everything on ABC. Or is House not scripted in your fantasy world?!

Aren’t Dancing with the Stars, The Bachelor, and Extreme Makeover Home Edition all top rated shows on ABC? I do believe ABC has 7-8 hours of “unscripted” shows a week…that’s more than 40% of their schedule (not counting Saturdays which aren’t programmed).

Aren’t Dancing with the Stars, The Bachelor, and Extreme Makeover Home Edition all top rated shows on ABC? I do believe ABC has 7-8 hours of “unscripted” shows a week…that’s more than 40% of their schedule (not counting Saturdays which aren’t programmed).

Aren’t Dancing with the Stars, The Bachelor, and Extreme Makeover Home Edition all top rated shows on ABC? I do believe ABC has 7-8 hours of “unscripted” shows a week…that’s more than 40% of their schedule (not counting Saturdays which aren’t programmed).

Fox has lets see in terms of scripted shows

Bones
Glee
House
24
Family Guy
The Simpsons
The Cleveland Show
etc.

For reality they have what AI, COPS, and America’s Most Wanted

Seems like Fox and ABC are about the same.

Fox has lets see in terms of scripted shows

Bones
Glee
House
24
Family Guy
The Simpsons
The Cleveland Show
etc.

For reality they have what AI, COPS, and America’s Most Wanted

Seems like Fox and ABC are about the same.

Fox has lets see in terms of scripted shows

Bones
Glee
House
24
Family Guy
The Simpsons
The Cleveland Show
etc.

For reality they have what AI, COPS, and America’s Most Wanted

Seems like Fox and ABC are about the same.

Katie, You forgot to put Fringe on that list. That’s become a pretty good show.

Katie, You forgot to put Fringe on that list. That’s become a pretty good show.

Katie, You forgot to put Fringe on that list. That’s become a pretty good show.

But don’t you see, Holly? If it’s reality on ABC then it’s a gem, but if it’s reality on FOX then it’s crap…

But don’t you see, Holly? If it’s reality on ABC then it’s a gem, but if it’s reality on FOX then it’s crap…

But don’t you see, Holly? If it’s reality on ABC then it’s a gem, but if it’s reality on FOX then it’s crap…

scripted-nonscripted-rerun (hours)
FOX 8-6-1
NBC 8-10-4
ABC 10-7-5
CBS 15-5-2

scripted-nonscripted-rerun (hours)
FOX 8-6-1
NBC 8-10-4
ABC 10-7-5
CBS 15-5-2

scripted-nonscripted-rerun (hours)
FOX 8-6-1
NBC 8-10-4
ABC 10-7-5
CBS 15-5-2

Wow for all the bashing of CBS look at the lack of non scripted compared to the others.

ABC is a crappy network same as NBC. There are reasons Fox and CBS are 1 and 2.

Wow for all the bashing of CBS look at the lack of non scripted compared to the others.

ABC is a crappy network same as NBC. There are reasons Fox and CBS are 1 and 2.

Wow for all the bashing of CBS look at the lack of non scripted compared to the others.

ABC is a crappy network same as NBC. There are reasons Fox and CBS are 1 and 2.

CBS gets bashed for their shows being old and procedural, not for being non-scripted.

CBS gets bashed for their shows being old and procedural, not for being non-scripted.

CBS gets bashed for their shows being old and procedural, not for being non-scripted.

I don’t have any programming preferences over networks. I like The Good Wife and NCIS:LA on CBS, 24 and House on Fox, Lost on ABC, and Friday Night Lights on NBC. There are no comedies I like anymore since I tired of The Office and 30 Rock. But I can respect how both CBS and Fox run their networks. Consistantly and solid programming for the most part. They know their audiences and don’t apologize for catering to them. ABC and NBC just seem to want to try anything that works with minimal strategy, although I do think NBC aspires to cater to a more white collar audience. ABC I have no clue.

I don’t have any programming preferences over networks. I like The Good Wife and NCIS:LA on CBS, 24 and House on Fox, Lost on ABC, and Friday Night Lights on NBC. There are no comedies I like anymore since I tired of The Office and 30 Rock. But I can respect how both CBS and Fox run their networks. Consistantly and solid programming for the most part. They know their audiences and don’t apologize for catering to them. ABC and NBC just seem to want to try anything that works with minimal strategy, although I do think NBC aspires to cater to a more white collar audience. ABC I have no clue.

I don’t have any programming preferences over networks. I like The Good Wife and NCIS:LA on CBS, 24 and House on Fox, Lost on ABC, and Friday Night Lights on NBC. There are no comedies I like anymore since I tired of The Office and 30 Rock. But I can respect how both CBS and Fox run their networks. Consistantly and solid programming for the most part. They know their audiences and don’t apologize for catering to them. ABC and NBC just seem to want to try anything that works with minimal strategy, although I do think NBC aspires to cater to a more white collar audience. ABC I have no clue.

Parenthood had an excellent start. An great cast and excellent portrayal of the difficulties of being a parent. Max’s character captures the positives and triumphs that are associated with Autism. This allows others to relate! Great show so far!!

Parenthood had an excellent start. An great cast and excellent portrayal of the difficulties of being a parent. Max’s character captures the positives and triumphs that are associated with Autism. This allows others to relate! Great show so far!!

Parenthood had an excellent start. An great cast and excellent portrayal of the difficulties of being a parent. Max’s character captures the positives and triumphs that are associated with Autism. This allows others to relate! Great show so far!!

Katie, I would say ABC trys to skew to families and to female viewers.

Katie, I would say ABC trys to skew to families and to female viewers.

Katie, I would say ABC trys to skew to families and to female viewers.

We were told Parenthood would be darker than the movie, but this was all very fluffy, it could have aired on ABC Family. I wont watch again, I already watch Modern Family and Brothers & Sisters. I wanted a new dark family drama.

We were told Parenthood would be darker than the movie, but this was all very fluffy, it could have aired on ABC Family. I wont watch again, I already watch Modern Family and Brothers & Sisters. I wanted a new dark family drama.

GeorgeOscarBluth says:
CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

Your right about the competition for this time slot..
White Collar fan slightly more so than The Good Wife..
I checked out Parenthood to see all the hoopla..
Also because Thomas Schlamme directed the pilot episode..
The West Wing Alum but this show’s writing is beyond saving..
I felt like I was watching a soap opera donut with movie of the week jammed in the middle..
It’s also know as a Glazed not again NBC filled…

Justified looks great..
FX

GeorgeOscarBluth says:
CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

Your right about the competition for this time slot..
White Collar fan slightly more so than The Good Wife..
I checked out Parenthood to see all the hoopla..
Also because Thomas Schlamme directed the pilot episode..
The West Wing Alum but this show’s writing is beyond saving..
I felt like I was watching a soap opera donut with movie of the week jammed in the middle..
It’s also know as a Glazed not again NBC filled…

Justified looks great..
FX

GeorgeOscarBluth says:
CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

Your right about the competition for this time slot..
White Collar fan slightly more so than The Good Wife..
I checked out Parenthood to see all the hoopla..
Also because Thomas Schlamme directed the pilot episode..
The West Wing Alum but this show’s writing is beyond saving..
I felt like I was watching a soap opera donut with movie of the week jammed in the middle..
It’s also know as a Glazed not again NBC filled…

Justified looks great..
FX

Another dissapointed viewer here. Parenthood feels phony to me. The best thing in the show is Lauren Graham. I watched the first ep because of Peter Krause. Well, it’s a new low to him after the brilliant Six Feet Under, Dirty Sexy Money and now this garbage?

BTW ABC has the best scripted series (that’s why they have the most upscale audience) but BAD/cheesy reality shows. To me FOX shows are the cheesiest among the big 4 but since they are aimed at younger audiences it works.

Another dissapointed viewer here. Parenthood feels phony to me. The best thing in the show is Lauren Graham. I watched the first ep because of Peter Krause. Well, it’s a new low to him after the brilliant Six Feet Under, Dirty Sexy Money and now this garbage?

BTW ABC has the best scripted series (that’s why they have the most upscale audience) but BAD/cheesy reality shows. To me FOX shows are the cheesiest among the big 4 but since they are aimed at younger audiences it works.

Another dissapointed viewer here. Parenthood feels phony to me. The best thing in the show is Lauren Graham. I watched the first ep because of Peter Krause. Well, it’s a new low to him after the brilliant Six Feet Under, Dirty Sexy Money and now this garbage?

BTW ABC has the best scripted series (that’s why they have the most upscale audience) but BAD/cheesy reality shows. To me FOX shows are the cheesiest among the big 4 but since they are aimed at younger audiences it works.

With all the Scifi stuff it’s hard to imagine ABC catering to women but I supposed the rest of their lineup reinforces that theory.

And aside from LOST, ABC’s programming is crappy. DH, Greys are both old and PP and B&S totally dependent on their leads.

Fox has the most original scripted stuff and best IMO. 24 is getting a bit long in the tooth but the rest is still fresh.

With all the Scifi stuff it’s hard to imagine ABC catering to women but I supposed the rest of their lineup reinforces that theory.

And aside from LOST, ABC’s programming is crappy. DH, Greys are both old and PP and B&S totally dependent on their leads.

Fox has the most original scripted stuff and best IMO. 24 is getting a bit long in the tooth but the rest is still fresh.

With all the Scifi stuff it’s hard to imagine ABC catering to women but I supposed the rest of their lineup reinforces that theory.

And aside from LOST, ABC’s programming is crappy. DH, Greys are both old and PP and B&S totally dependent on their leads.

Fox has the most original scripted stuff and best IMO. 24 is getting a bit long in the tooth but the rest is still fresh.

Gavin, Gravatar and Bgun, haven’t you ever heard of giving the show 2-3 episodes before saying the writing is awful. Sometimes pilots are reshot, reedited and it gives them a disjointed feel.

Gavin, Gravatar and Bgun, haven’t you ever heard of giving the show 2-3 episodes before saying the writing is awful. Sometimes pilots are reshot, reedited and it gives them a disjointed feel.

Gavin, Gravatar and Bgun, haven’t you ever heard of giving the show 2-3 episodes before saying the writing is awful. Sometimes pilots are reshot, reedited and it gives them a disjointed feel.

Frank I never said the writing was awful, just not as dark as we were told. I will give it more episodes, I just donot want another B&S or Modern Family.

Frank I never said the writing was awful, just not as dark as we were told. I will give it more episodes, I just donot want another B&S or Modern Family.

Frank I never said the writing was awful, just not as dark as we were told. I will give it more episodes, I just donot want another B&S or Modern Family.

Frank I just want to know what shows the critics saw that had them raving about this show. It certainly could not have been the pilot. And Brothers and Sisters was a show that started out promisng which quickly turned into an unfocused abyss.

I guess my whole problem with the show is it does from dark drama to dramedy simply because they ended up recasting one actor? Who’s to say the rest will mesh. I would have preferred they recast Maura Tierney with someone who could replace her and stay with the show as planned(Juliane Moore who’s been looking for a TV project comes to mind) or the concept should have been based on the original film to begin with. The only reason I highlighted Nelson and Graham for the show is that they are really the only 2 who fit. Maybe Krause too but the rest including Bedelia, out of place.

Frank I just want to know what shows the critics saw that had them raving about this show. It certainly could not have been the pilot. And Brothers and Sisters was a show that started out promisng which quickly turned into an unfocused abyss.

I guess my whole problem with the show is it does from dark drama to dramedy simply because they ended up recasting one actor? Who’s to say the rest will mesh. I would have preferred they recast Maura Tierney with someone who could replace her and stay with the show as planned(Juliane Moore who’s been looking for a TV project comes to mind) or the concept should have been based on the original film to begin with. The only reason I highlighted Nelson and Graham for the show is that they are really the only 2 who fit. Maybe Krause too but the rest including Bedelia, out of place.

Frank I just want to know what shows the critics saw that had them raving about this show. It certainly could not have been the pilot. And Brothers and Sisters was a show that started out promisng which quickly turned into an unfocused abyss.

I guess my whole problem with the show is it does from dark drama to dramedy simply because they ended up recasting one actor? Who’s to say the rest will mesh. I would have preferred they recast Maura Tierney with someone who could replace her and stay with the show as planned(Juliane Moore who’s been looking for a TV project comes to mind) or the concept should have been based on the original film to begin with. The only reason I highlighted Nelson and Graham for the show is that they are really the only 2 who fit. Maybe Krause too but the rest including Bedelia, out of place.

I just want to say Frank I am going to give the show a couple of more episodes. I really want to like the show and with FNL going away soon, I’d really love to find something comparable.

I just want to say Frank I am going to give the show a couple of more episodes. I really want to like the show and with FNL going away soon, I’d really love to find something comparable.

I just want to say Frank I am going to give the show a couple of more episodes. I really want to like the show and with FNL going away soon, I’d really love to find something comparable.

Some saw episode 2 and the original pilot of which they said that the 2nd pilot featuring Lauren Graham was a lot lighter in tone than the original pilot, which was a lot darker. Jason Katims decided to make the pilot much funnier and lighter in tone than it originally was. Several scenes were filmed for the original pilot before the decision was made to make the show a dramedy. Hence, that is why it feels a little disjointed.

Some saw episode 2 and the original pilot of which they said that the 2nd pilot featuring Lauren Graham was a lot lighter in tone than the original pilot, which was a lot darker. Jason Katims decided to make the pilot much funnier and lighter in tone than it originally was. Several scenes were filmed for the original pilot before the decision was made to make the show a dramedy. Hence, that is why it feels a little disjointed.

Some saw episode 2 and the original pilot of which they said that the 2nd pilot featuring Lauren Graham was a lot lighter in tone than the original pilot, which was a lot darker. Jason Katims decided to make the pilot much funnier and lighter in tone than it originally was. Several scenes were filmed for the original pilot before the decision was made to make the show a dramedy. Hence, that is why it feels a little disjointed.

http://tinyurl.com/yezbdw4
From Mike Ausiello
Question: How awesome was Lauren Graham in the Parenthood premiere? Any scoop on upcoming episodes? —Barb
Ausiello: Actually, next week’s episode is an even better showcase for LG. Sarah goes on a job interview and her prospective boss is about half her age. The scene calls for LG to be alternately comical, vulnerable, intimidated, and hopeful, and she nails all four. The episode — which scores bonus points for including both Felicity’s Amanda Foreman and Everwood’s Tom Amandes in memorable guest roles — also features a very funny scene that’s reminiscent of this.
http://tinyurl.com/y8hup93

http://tinyurl.com/yezbdw4
From Mike Ausiello
Question: How awesome was Lauren Graham in the Parenthood premiere? Any scoop on upcoming episodes? —Barb
Ausiello: Actually, next week’s episode is an even better showcase for LG. Sarah goes on a job interview and her prospective boss is about half her age. The scene calls for LG to be alternately comical, vulnerable, intimidated, and hopeful, and she nails all four. The episode — which scores bonus points for including both Felicity’s Amanda Foreman and Everwood’s Tom Amandes in memorable guest roles — also features a very funny scene that’s reminiscent of this.
http://tinyurl.com/y8hup93

http://tinyurl.com/yezbdw4
From Mike Ausiello
Question: How awesome was Lauren Graham in the Parenthood premiere? Any scoop on upcoming episodes? —Barb
Ausiello: Actually, next week’s episode is an even better showcase for LG. Sarah goes on a job interview and her prospective boss is about half her age. The scene calls for LG to be alternately comical, vulnerable, intimidated, and hopeful, and she nails all four. The episode — which scores bonus points for including both Felicity’s Amanda Foreman and Everwood’s Tom Amandes in memorable guest roles — also features a very funny scene that’s reminiscent of this.
http://tinyurl.com/y8hup93

Frank I promise to come here and eat my words if I end up liking Parenthood.I’ll probably end up DVR’ing it because The Good Wife is my new fave show but I’m definitely going to give it a go. I am not a big Lauren Graham fan(she is kind of engaging on screen) but I’m hoping the rest of the cast can pull me in. Jason Katims is a talented guy.

Frank I promise to come here and eat my words if I end up liking Parenthood.I’ll probably end up DVR’ing it because The Good Wife is my new fave show but I’m definitely going to give it a go. I am not a big Lauren Graham fan(she is kind of engaging on screen) but I’m hoping the rest of the cast can pull me in. Jason Katims is a talented guy.

Frank I promise to come here and eat my words if I end up liking Parenthood.I’ll probably end up DVR’ing it because The Good Wife is my new fave show but I’m definitely going to give it a go. I am not a big Lauren Graham fan(she is kind of engaging on screen) but I’m hoping the rest of the cast can pull me in. Jason Katims is a talented guy.

Why don’t you like Lauren? She was great on the Gilmore Girls.

Why don’t you like Lauren? She was great on the Gilmore Girls.

Frank do I need a reason. I actually liked Gilmore Girls but more the supporting cast but I adore Alexis Bledel. Lauren was ok she just doesn’t appeal to me. I admit she’s an engaging presence on screen. Sandra Bullock is also engaging on screen and I’m not a fan of hers either. I just like actors with a bit more to them. Maura Tierney? She could do drama and comedy and could have done dramedy very easily. I love her.

Frank do I need a reason. I actually liked Gilmore Girls but more the supporting cast but I adore Alexis Bledel. Lauren was ok she just doesn’t appeal to me. I admit she’s an engaging presence on screen. Sandra Bullock is also engaging on screen and I’m not a fan of hers either. I just like actors with a bit more to them. Maura Tierney? She could do drama and comedy and could have done dramedy very easily. I love her.

Ok. You have the right to your opinion.

Ok. You have the right to your opinion.

Consider this, Frank… The Good Wife, The Middle, and Modern Family are all shows this season that have managed to tie or beat the 18-49 rating of their pilots later on in the season. They all did so without their pilots being notably boosted by the Olympics. You’re telling me that Parenthood is going to get back to that 3.1 rating? Unlikely. It will probably go the route of Community, that is, a healthy pilot followed by a nosedive.

Consider this, Frank… The Good Wife, The Middle, and Modern Family are all shows this season that have managed to tie or beat the 18-49 rating of their pilots later on in the season. They all did so without their pilots being notably boosted by the Olympics. You’re telling me that Parenthood is going to get back to that 3.1 rating? Unlikely. It will probably go the route of Community, that is, a healthy pilot followed by a nosedive.

For those of you mentioning White Collar on USA, the season finale is next week and on March 30th Law & Order: Criminal Intent takes it place.

Just a note…

For those of you mentioning White Collar on USA, the season finale is next week and on March 30th Law & Order: Criminal Intent takes it place.

Just a note…

Bill Gorman says:
March 3, 2010 at 2:08 pm

Altair, you could write ABC press releases!

_________________________

I’ll take it as a compliment!

GeorgeOscarBluth says:
CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

________________

No way this can happen. White Collar will be already over by the time V is back on the air.

Bill Gorman says:
March 3, 2010 at 2:08 pm

Altair, you could write ABC press releases!

_________________________

I’ll take it as a compliment!

GeorgeOscarBluth says:
CBS – Good WIfe
NBC – Parenthood
ABC – V
USA – White Collar
FX – Justified (yet to premiere)

________________

No way this can happen. White Collar will be already over by the time V is back on the air.

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