How Do Shows Line Up For The CBS Firing Squad?

Posted on 09 March 2010 by Bill Gorman

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Our Renew / Cancel Index predicts potential renewal or cancellation for scripted broadcast primetime shows for the 2010-11 season (includes results through March 7, 2010):

  • Likely To Be Canceled By May, 2010; Officially Canceled
  • Some Danger Of Being Canceled By May, 2010
  • Likely to Be Renewed For The 2010-11 Season
  • Renewed For The 2010-11 Season
Program Renew/ Cancel Index
Numb3rs (F), (P) 0.54
Three Rivers (P) .55*
Medium (F), (P) 0.59
New Adventures of Old Christine (S) 0.62
Ghost Whisperer (F), (S) 0.64
Cold Case (P) 0.65
Gary Unmarried 0.65
The Good Wife (P) 0.84
Accidentally On Purpose (P) 0.89
CSI:NY (P) 0.99
How I Met Your Mother (S) 1.04
The Mentalist 1.09
CSI (P) 1.10
NCIS: Los Angeles (P) 1.10
Criminal Minds (P) 1.11
Rules Of Engagement 1.13
CSI: Miami (P) 1.13
NCIS (P) 1.28
Two And A Half Men 1.47
Big Bang Theory 1.55

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Again, CBS has the most shows on its “bubble”, and again there’s the most uncertainty about which will get the first bullet in the head, and which might escape one entirely.

If I had to pick today, this would be my firing squad order, beginning with the most likely to go. Towards the bottom of the list, the likelihood of escaping a bullet entirely grows significantly.

Last minute update: Undercover Boss has been renewed. Add an extra bullet to your weapon.

  1. Cold Case (certainly condemned)
  2. Numbers
  3. New Adventures Of Old Christine
  4. Accidentally on Purpose
  5. Gary Unmarried
  6. Medium (CBS may well be out of bullets by now)

The next interesting data points will come when:

  • Accidentally On Purpose moves to Wednesday (March 31). That will give a relative read on both its and Gary Unmarried’s prospects. If it drops well below Gary’s average (2.2 rating for new episodes), it’s a goner. If it does lots better, goodbye Gary. Christine’s prospects are likely to be influenced as well.
  • Miami Medical starts at 10pm on Fridays (April 2). Its results *might* provide some additional clarity on the prospects for Numb3rs and Medium.

* I have frozen the Index for Three Rivers at the point it was removed from the CBS schedule.

For shows in the Some Danger category only, I am including short term Index indicators for shows either with either improving :mrgreen: or deteriorating :oops: Indexes, based on 4 week averages instead of season to date Indexes.

I’ve added a new category, Renewed For The 2010-11 Season, for shows who’s renewal has already been announced for the next season. It may take a while to get all the past announcements noted, let me know what I have missed, yet be patient.

This is a breakdown of CBS scripted shows and their renewal and cancellation prospects. Here are links to the other networks:

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Notes:

The Renew/Cancel Index is a show’s Season To Date adults 18-49 rating divided by its network’s Season to Date average 18-49 rating (in CBS’s case I have removed the season effect of the week including the Super Bowl for the calculation). If a show’s season to date 18-49 ratings average equalled its network’s 18-49 average, the show would have an Index of 1.00. Without special factors, scripted shows that were more than 10% below their network’s average are typically canceled by the end of the broadcast primetime season.

Factors that could cause a show to be renewed with well below average index:

  • (F) -Fridays: Shows airing on Fridays have been renewed with significantly lower than average Indexes.
  • (S) – Syndication: Shows nearing syndication (66-88 episodes), often have economic factors that trump ratings leading to renewal.
  • (T) – Third Party: Shows that have a portion of their cost underwritten by a 3rd party can be renewed with substantially lower ratings.
  • (P) – Produced by the network’s production company – For shows on the bubble, being produced by the network’s corporate production company can be a survival advantage. For real losers, it’s unlikely to help.

What’s the History of the Index and How Did It Do In the Past? Check out the results from the 2007-8 season and the 2008-9 season.

Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2010 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved. All ratings used are Live+Same Day viewing.

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  • Tom

    GU’s barely announced (if it ever was) episode reduction has to rank it in the front of the firing line for comedies, imo. And while Numbers & CC are both certain to be canned, I don’t recall anyone on CC being cast in pilots.

  • Tom

    GU’s barely announced (if it ever was) episode reduction has to rank it in the front of the firing line for comedies, imo. And while Numbers & CC are both certain to be canned, I don’t recall anyone on CC being cast in pilots.

  • Frick

    Great pictures for these last few R/C I’s, Bill.

    I hope AoP survives, it’s an entertaining show. It’s a lot funnier and has better acting than Gary Unmarried. Can’t wait ’til April 1st (I get to see the next episode, plus there’s the added bonus of finding out the ratings.)

    With the whole CSI thing, I think New York will come out a top performer among the three next season. It holds on to a good amount of Criminal Minds, and has been growing recently.

  • Frick

    Great pictures for these last few R/C I’s, Bill.

    I hope AoP survives, it’s an entertaining show. It’s a lot funnier and has better acting than Gary Unmarried. Can’t wait ’til April 1st (I get to see the next episode, plus there’s the added bonus of finding out the ratings.)

    With the whole CSI thing, I think New York will come out a top performer among the three next season. It holds on to a good amount of Criminal Minds, and has been growing recently.

  • banni

    CBS should cancel Medium. Since they put it on the Friday lune up, GW and Numb3rs have started to fall.

  • banni

    CBS should cancel Medium. Since they put it on the Friday lune up, GW and Numb3rs have started to fall.

  • Dan

    Every show on this list is GONE. CBS will need new programs in these slots: Sunday, 10-11; Wednesday, 8-9; Friday 9-10; Friday, 10-11. Total: 4 hours of new shows.

    I see HAWAII FIVE-O 2.0 getting the Sunday slot (or Tuesdays at 10 if THE GOOD WIFE moves to Sunday); RULES OF ENGAGEMENT moves to Wednesday at 8, followed by a new sitcom; Friday gets 2 new dramas, one being the CRIMINAL MINDS spin-off (unless that show gets Wednesdays at 10, moving CSI: NY to Fridays at 9). THE MENTALIST and the original CSI will be trading time slots.

    Monday will see yet another new underperforming, bland sitcom at 8:30.

  • Dan

    Every show on this list is GONE. CBS will need new programs in these slots: Sunday, 10-11; Wednesday, 8-9; Friday 9-10; Friday, 10-11. Total: 4 hours of new shows.

    I see HAWAII FIVE-O 2.0 getting the Sunday slot (or Tuesdays at 10 if THE GOOD WIFE moves to Sunday); RULES OF ENGAGEMENT moves to Wednesday at 8, followed by a new sitcom; Friday gets 2 new dramas, one being the CRIMINAL MINDS spin-off (unless that show gets Wednesdays at 10, moving CSI: NY to Fridays at 9). THE MENTALIST and the original CSI will be trading time slots.

    Monday will see yet another new underperforming, bland sitcom at 8:30.

  • Dan

    ADD TO THE ABOVE POST:

    GHOST WHISPERER will be renewed – a “mercy” renewal for a show that did well for the network for a number of years. Next season will be its last.

  • Dan

    ADD TO THE ABOVE POST:

    GHOST WHISPERER will be renewed – a “mercy” renewal for a show that did well for the network for a number of years. Next season will be its last.

  • Shimbo

    I am happy Medium is on the bottom of the totem pole. Medium has been doing consistantly well(at least for a Friday night) especially this past week.

    I don’t really see Undercover Boss doing well, after this season.

    How many hours does the network have to free up so new pilots can air?

  • Frick

    Medium isn’t getting dumped.

  • Shimbo

    I am happy Medium is on the bottom of the totem pole. Medium has been doing consistantly well(at least for a Friday night) especially this past week.

    I don’t really see Undercover Boss doing well, after this season.

    How many hours does the network have to free up so new pilots can air?

  • Frick

    Medium isn’t getting dumped.

  • Olegas

    I cannot understand why GW is labeled as safer than Medium. I mean, both shows have the EXACTLY ratings on numbers and demo. Plus, Medium seems cheaper to produce.

    And I’m not ever talking about quality. GW sucks, the fact it have found an audience is impressive.

  • Olegas

    I cannot understand why GW is labeled as safer than Medium. I mean, both shows have the EXACTLY ratings on numbers and demo. Plus, Medium seems cheaper to produce.

    And I’m not ever talking about quality. GW sucks, the fact it have found an audience is impressive.

  • Anonymous

    @Shimbo,

    According to Nina Tassler, CBS intends to premiere 2-3 dramas and 1-2 comedies.

    For the dramas, canceling Cold Case and Numb3rs gives them 2 slots. The third is a bit more difficult.

    For the comedies, they need to cancel at least one, probably 2, and/or move 2 to midseason

  • Holly

    @Shimbo,

    According to Nina Tassler, CBS intends to premiere 2-3 dramas and 1-2 comedies.

    For the dramas, canceling Cold Case and Numb3rs gives them 2 slots. The third is a bit more difficult.

    For the comedies, they need to cancel at least one, probably 2, and/or move 2 to midseason

  • http://iamnoahjames.com/ nkinsey

    It doesn’t help Numb3rs at all that two of their leads have other shows lined up already.

  • http://iamnoahjames.com nkinsey

    It doesn’t help Numb3rs at all that two of their leads have other shows lined up already.

  • Anonymous

    Well, when The Live Feed came out with their bubble show article and gave Numb3rs a 20% chance, the showrunner said that was probably too high…

  • Holly

    Well, when The Live Feed came out with their bubble show article and gave Numb3rs a 20% chance, the showrunner said that was probably too high…

  • Herb Finn

    The big question is HAWAII 5-0 and CRIMINAL MINDS 2 a “lock” for fall,or would one or both be mid-season?

  • Herb Finn

    The big question is HAWAII 5-0 and CRIMINAL MINDS 2 a “lock” for fall,or would one or both be mid-season?

  • Jon

    I would say at the moment, three dramas will be picked up with two in the fall and one at midseason unless CBS decides to hold back one of their dramas for midseason, I think Medium could be a possibility or even CSI: Miami or NY. It is difficult as CBS has such strong performers.

    CSI and The Mentalist may swap slots next season but that it is not a given.

  • Jon

    I would say at the moment, three dramas will be picked up with two in the fall and one at midseason unless CBS decides to hold back one of their dramas for midseason, I think Medium could be a possibility or even CSI: Miami or NY. It is difficult as CBS has such strong performers.

    CSI and The Mentalist may swap slots next season but that it is not a given.

  • Shimbo

    I am still confused as to why GW is not in danger and Medium is?

    Well I hope it’s 2 new drama’s for the fall and 1 new drama for mid-season. Can that be done? If so Medium has a great shot at coming back. I also think if CBS decides to only pick up 2 new drama’s Medium has the best shot of coming back.

    I have a good feeling about Medum returning.

  • Shimbo

    I am still confused as to why GW is not in danger and Medium is?

    Well I hope it’s 2 new drama’s for the fall and 1 new drama for mid-season. Can that be done? If so Medium has a great shot at coming back. I also think if CBS decides to only pick up 2 new drama’s Medium has the best shot of coming back.

    I have a good feeling about Medum returning.

  • http://www.twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    CM2′s not going to be midseason since the pilot will air in a few weeks here. CM is too graphic for 8 pm, and I don’t think they really want to move NY, so I’m pretty sure CM2 will not be on Wednesday. Then again, I also thought The Mentalist was a lock for 9 pm Tuesday this time last year, but that fell through. So really no one knows what the hell they’re going to do.

  • http://www.twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    CM2′s not going to be midseason since the pilot will air in a few weeks here. CM is too graphic for 8 pm, and I don’t think they really want to move NY, so I’m pretty sure CM2 will not be on Wednesday. Then again, I also thought The Mentalist was a lock for 9 pm Tuesday this time last year, but that fell through. So really no one knows what the hell they’re going to do.

  • Anonymous

    I am still confused as to why GW is not in danger and Medium is?

    Several posters have made this point, and it has validity. I think the fact that Medium is new to CBS while GW is a Friday staple from them has an effect.

  • Holly

    I am still confused as to why GW is not in danger and Medium is?

    Several posters have made this point, and it has validity. I think the fact that Medium is new to CBS while GW is a Friday staple from them has an effect.

  • Tom

    Herb, that is the big question. Good Wife will almost certainly be booted from its current slot, but that still means that one of the two will either end up on Friday (bleh), Sunday (especially with football overruns, bleh), or evict another hour to Friday / Sunday.

    The most likely candidate for such an eviction should be the Wednesday comedies (especially if CBS is aiming to add only one comedy, for Mondays), but CBS has been so adamant on keeping the block, and watched ABC go in and establish in two months what they’ve failed to do in two years, that the comedies may stay for pride alone.

  • Tom

    Herb, that is the big question. Good Wife will almost certainly be booted from its current slot, but that still means that one of the two will either end up on Friday (bleh), Sunday (especially with football overruns, bleh), or evict another hour to Friday / Sunday.

    The most likely candidate for such an eviction should be the Wednesday comedies (especially if CBS is aiming to add only one comedy, for Mondays), but CBS has been so adamant on keeping the block, and watched ABC go in and establish in two months what they’ve failed to do in two years, that the comedies may stay for pride alone.

  • Stefan

    Maybe it would be a good idea to bring Christine back to Mondays, to the coveted post-HIMYM slot. It could get 21 episodes to get to 110 (something stuck with me about that number, I think it was HIMYM’s initial deal, that’s why I insist on 21 episodes rather than 22) and it could finish in March, after which CBS could launch a new sitcom there for at least 9 episodes. The only problem with that is that CBS usually operates like this – one sitcom skips a week, ALL sitcoms skip a week. But if they could find a way around it, that would be great.
    RoE on Wednesdays, maybe paired with Shatner’s sitcom? Sounds like a night of avoiding CBS to me, but I think it could attract the same kind of audience.

    Medium stays post-GW, The Good Wife could move to Fridays at 10. MM will probably tank.

  • Stefan

    Maybe it would be a good idea to bring Christine back to Mondays, to the coveted post-HIMYM slot. It could get 21 episodes to get to 110 (something stuck with me about that number, I think it was HIMYM’s initial deal, that’s why I insist on 21 episodes rather than 22) and it could finish in March, after which CBS could launch a new sitcom there for at least 9 episodes. The only problem with that is that CBS usually operates like this – one sitcom skips a week, ALL sitcoms skip a week. But if they could find a way around it, that would be great.
    RoE on Wednesdays, maybe paired with Shatner’s sitcom? Sounds like a night of avoiding CBS to me, but I think it could attract the same kind of audience.

    Medium stays post-GW, The Good Wife could move to Fridays at 10. MM will probably tank.

  • Stefan

    the pilot will air in a few weeks here
    Where?

    No way CM2 is gonna be a midseason show. I think it’s safe to say the same thing for Hawaii.

    Any news on the title of CM2?

    @Olegas:
    It’s all subjective. I don’t like Medium but I don’t think it “sucks”. The actors just didn’t strike a chord with me.

  • Stefan

    the pilot will air in a few weeks here
    Where?

    No way CM2 is gonna be a midseason show. I think it’s safe to say the same thing for Hawaii.

    Any news on the title of CM2?

    @Olegas:
    It’s all subjective. I don’t like Medium but I don’t think it “sucks”. The actors just didn’t strike a chord with me.

  • Anonymous

    @Stefan,

    CM2 is going to have a back-door pilot of sorts as an episode of CM1, just like NCIS:LA did last season.

  • Holly

    @Stefan,

    CM2 is going to have a back-door pilot of sorts as an episode of CM1, just like NCIS:LA did last season.

  • http://www.twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    There is a chance that pilot will air on 3/24, that is two Wednesdays from tomorrow.

  • http://www.twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    There is a chance that pilot will air on 3/24, that is two Wednesdays from tomorrow.

  • Jon

    I would say the Criminal Minds spin-off will be titled similar to the Law and Orders than CSI or NCIS so it would be Criminal Minds: *something Unit* rather than Criminal Minds: *insert city*.

  • Jon

    I would say the Criminal Minds spin-off will be titled similar to the Law and Orders than CSI or NCIS so it would be Criminal Minds: *something Unit* rather than Criminal Minds: *insert city*.

  • banni

    I think CSI: Miami is on the bubble schedule-wise. A new drama might take its place. It’s numbers are good but I feel that CBS wants more out of TBBT.

    No way two CMs back-to-back. The nature of the show is odd for back-to-back.

  • banni

    I think CSI: Miami is on the bubble schedule-wise. A new drama might take its place. It’s numbers are good but I feel that CBS wants more out of TBBT.

    No way two CMs back-to-back. The nature of the show is odd for back-to-back.

  • banni

    Criminal Minds: Special Victims Unit! Haha just kidding.

  • banni

    Criminal Minds: Special Victims Unit! Haha just kidding.

  • RViewer

    @ Stefan

    The CM pilot will be air as CM episode number 5×19, this Wednesday CBS will air episode number 5×17.

    No title yet.

  • RViewer

    @ Stefan

    The CM pilot will be air as CM episode number 5×19, this Wednesday CBS will air episode number 5×17.

    No title yet.

  • Katie

    Well something other than Cold Case has to be cancelled to free time up for CM2 and Hawaii Five-O right? Why aren’t more of the low performing shows on the bubble? Isn’t CBS the network that has higher rating standards than the rest of the networks?

  • Katie

    Well something other than Cold Case has to be cancelled to free time up for CM2 and Hawaii Five-O right? Why aren’t more of the low performing shows on the bubble? Isn’t CBS the network that has higher rating standards than the rest of the networks?

  • waterflame

    o__O GW is still at 0.64? After it’s series low last week…

  • waterflame

    o__O GW is still at 0.64? After it’s series low last week…

  • Mediumfan

    I am still confused as to why GW is not in danger and Medium is?

    Several posters have made this point, and it has validity. I think the fact that Medium is new to CBS while GW is a Friday staple from them has an effect.

    Wouldn’t the fact that Medium is new to CBS actually give it more of an advantage than Ghost Whisperer? I mean, CBS very publicly snatched the show away from NBC last year, so are they really gonna cancel it after only one season? I would think that with both shows doing the same ratings wise, that the older of the two (for the network) would be in the most danger? Plus the fact that GW is co-produced by ABC, so CBS has less to gain from syndication value than they do from Medium, right? I’d say they’re about even as far as risk of cancellation, but I will say this. If CBS does cancel Medium, then they’d better cancel Ghost Whisperer too, or they’re gonna have a whole lot of ticked off Medium fans on their hands.

  • Mediumfan

    I am still confused as to why GW is not in danger and Medium is?

    Several posters have made this point, and it has validity. I think the fact that Medium is new to CBS while GW is a Friday staple from them has an effect.

    Wouldn’t the fact that Medium is new to CBS actually give it more of an advantage than Ghost Whisperer? I mean, CBS very publicly snatched the show away from NBC last year, so are they really gonna cancel it after only one season? I would think that with both shows doing the same ratings wise, that the older of the two (for the network) would be in the most danger? Plus the fact that GW is co-produced by ABC, so CBS has less to gain from syndication value than they do from Medium, right? I’d say they’re about even as far as risk of cancellation, but I will say this. If CBS does cancel Medium, then they’d better cancel Ghost Whisperer too, or they’re gonna have a whole lot of ticked off Medium fans on their hands.

  • Mediumfan

    GW is still at 0.64? After it’s series low last week…

    I agree. Medium was the highest rated show of the night last week, both on CBS and overall, so shouldn’t its index have gone up by now? It should be at least equal with Ghost Whisperer, especially considering the latter’s lackluster performance last week.

  • Mediumfan

    GW is still at 0.64? After it’s series low last week…

    I agree. Medium was the highest rated show of the night last week, both on CBS and overall, so shouldn’t its index have gone up by now? It should be at least equal with Ghost Whisperer, especially considering the latter’s lackluster performance last week.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure one really has an edge over the other aside from ratings, where GW is slightly higher (well, until recently). The other things seem to come out as more-or-less even. But, I think the stability factor is why many people think of Medium as in more danger than GW.

    Oh, and I don’t think CBS is all that afraid of Medium fans…

  • Holly

    I’m not sure one really has an edge over the other aside from ratings, where GW is slightly higher (well, until recently). The other things seem to come out as more-or-less even. But, I think the stability factor is why many people think of Medium as in more danger than GW.

    Oh, and I don’t think CBS is all that afraid of Medium fans…

  • Anonymous

    I agree. Medium was the highest rated show of the night last week, both on CBS and overall, so shouldn’t its index have gone up by now? It should be at least equal with Ghost Whisperer, especially considering the latter’s lackluster performance last week.

    Because the index works on the season average, movement is very slow this late in the season. Even with a huge difference, one or two episodes doesn’t cause much of a change in a 20 week average.

  • Holly

    I agree. Medium was the highest rated show of the night last week, both on CBS and overall, so shouldn’t its index have gone up by now? It should be at least equal with Ghost Whisperer, especially considering the latter’s lackluster performance last week.

    Because the index works on the season average, movement is very slow this late in the season. Even with a huge difference, one or two episodes doesn’t cause much of a change in a 20 week average.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    Medium being “new to CBS” means nothing.

    Ghost Whisperer has better ratings in the earlier timeslot. And as much as I doubt CBS will cancel 2 Friday shows, I am *certain* they won’t cancel all 3.

    And for all the people who missed their elementary mathematics class, we’re 24 weeks into the season, a single week’s ratings is not going to move the average for *any* show that began in the fall.

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com Bill Gorman

    Medium being “new to CBS” means nothing.

    Ghost Whisperer has better ratings in the earlier timeslot. And as much as I doubt CBS will cancel 2 Friday shows, I am *certain* they won’t cancel all 3.

    And for all the people who missed their elementary mathematics class, we’re 24 weeks into the season, a single week’s ratings is not going to move the average for *any* show that began in the fall.

  • Empire

    Numb3rs is without a doubt finished, which really pains me to say, just found out Rob Morrow signed on for an ABC pilot. One good thing I can say though is at least it is getting the proper finish unlike Las Vegas which still peeves me off to this day. Medium and GW are only safe because CBS probably will not want to blow up Fridays just yet. Even though both have been struggling just as badly as Numb3rs if not worse considering the time-slots. I also see only two sitcoms being canceled, as CBS seems on a mission to have two comedies night blocks.

  • Empire

    Numb3rs is without a doubt finished, which really pains me to say, just found out Rob Morrow signed on for an ABC pilot. One good thing I can say though is at least it is getting the proper finish unlike Las Vegas which still peeves me off to this day. Medium and GW are only safe because CBS probably will not want to blow up Fridays just yet. Even though both have been struggling just as badly as Numb3rs if not worse considering the time-slots. I also see only two sitcoms being canceled, as CBS seems on a mission to have two comedies night blocks.

  • Ron

    I think AoP is more likely to be canceled before Christine or Gary. It won’t be helped by the fact that once it starts airing it will be daylight savings and 8/830 shows always tend to drop the last few months of the season

  • RViewer

    @ Stefan

    The CM2 pilot will be shown on CM on April 7.

  • Ron

    I think AoP is more likely to be canceled before Christine or Gary. It won’t be helped by the fact that once it starts airing it will be daylight savings and 8/830 shows always tend to drop the last few months of the season

  • RViewer

    @ Stefan

    The CM2 pilot will be shown on CM on April 7.

  • Stefan

    I would think that with both shows doing the same ratings wise, that the older of the two (for the network) would be in the most danger

    Wrong! The older show is always in the better position due to its tradition. If a show in its 5th season is pulling the same ratings as a show in its second season, you can bet that the older will be renewed over the newer.

    GW is definitely getting a 6th season, but if they get canceled after that, maybe ABC will take over. I don’t think they’ve had a supernatural show in years (note that I say supernatural, not Sci/Fi).

  • DenverDean

    CBS needs to have a “filler series” to cover the weeks between Survivor fall/spring, particularily in January. During those weeks CSI’s 18-49 drop sharply. (If TM moves to 9, then it sure could use lead-in.) Maybe UB would be used there? It just seems that comedy repeats, especially, don’t do well in the slot. The procedurals are getting overused because of Saturday Crimetime.

  • Stefan

    I would think that with both shows doing the same ratings wise, that the older of the two (for the network) would be in the most danger

    Wrong! The older show is always in the better position due to its tradition. If a show in its 5th season is pulling the same ratings as a show in its second season, you can bet that the older will be renewed over the newer.

    GW is definitely getting a 6th season, but if they get canceled after that, maybe ABC will take over. I don’t think they’ve had a supernatural show in years (note that I say supernatural, not Sci/Fi).

  • DenverDean

    CBS needs to have a “filler series” to cover the weeks between Survivor fall/spring, particularily in January. During those weeks CSI’s 18-49 drop sharply. (If TM moves to 9, then it sure could use lead-in.) Maybe UB would be used there? It just seems that comedy repeats, especially, don’t do well in the slot. The procedurals are getting overused because of Saturday Crimetime.

  • waterflame

    Well, so it won’t get better if some of the shows hit highs…
    That’s bad for the on-the-bubble-shows.

  • waterflame

    Well, so it won’t get better if some of the shows hit highs…
    That’s bad for the on-the-bubble-shows.

  • Mediumfan

    Oh, and I don’t think CBS is all that afraid of Medium fans…

    They should be. Medium’s may not be as vocal as some of those rabid Chuck/Heroes/Dollhouse type fans, but let them cancel Medium and see if they don’t raise the roof.

    Medium being “new to CBS” means nothing.

    Ghost Whisperer has better ratings in the earlier timeslot. And as much as I doubt CBS will cancel 2 Friday shows, I am *certain* they won’t cancel all 3.

    And for all the people who missed their elementary mathematics class, we’re 24 weeks into the season, a single week’s ratings is not going to move the average for *any* show that began in the fall

    Could we have put any more sarcasm into that post? Really, a simple “One week’s ratings this late in the season won’t change the index that much” would have sufficed without resorting to derision.

  • Mediumfan

    Oh, and I don’t think CBS is all that afraid of Medium fans…

    They should be. Medium’s may not be as vocal as some of those rabid Chuck/Heroes/Dollhouse type fans, but let them cancel Medium and see if they don’t raise the roof.

    Medium being “new to CBS” means nothing.

    Ghost Whisperer has better ratings in the earlier timeslot. And as much as I doubt CBS will cancel 2 Friday shows, I am *certain* they won’t cancel all 3.

    And for all the people who missed their elementary mathematics class, we’re 24 weeks into the season, a single week’s ratings is not going to move the average for *any* show that began in the fall

    Could we have put any more sarcasm into that post? Really, a simple “One week’s ratings this late in the season won’t change the index that much” would have sufficed without resorting to derision.

  • Anonymous

    Fans of every show think that they are more devoted than other fans and that the network will feel their wrath if their show is canceled. Sorry, but…no. You can write angry emails, post CBS hate messages on websites, and send them all sorts of crap, but the reality is, it won’t make any difference to the network. What they care about is numbers, and regardless of fan “boycotts” for various shows, there is no evidence that any given cancelation has hurt a network.

  • Holly

    Fans of every show think that they are more devoted than other fans and that the network will feel their wrath if their show is canceled. Sorry, but…no. You can write angry emails, post CBS hate messages on websites, and send them all sorts of crap, but the reality is, it won’t make any difference to the network. What they care about is numbers, and regardless of fan “boycotts” for various shows, there is no evidence that any given cancelation has hurt a network.

  • Stefan

    They should be. Medium’s may not be as vocal as some of those rabid Chuck/Heroes/Dollhouse type fans, but let them cancel Medium and see if they don’t raise the roof.

    You think we didn’t try to save Pushing Daisies? Dirty Sexy Money? Studio 60? Better Off Ted?
    Fan campaigning never brings any results! We’re immaterial to them.

    And if you can’t figure out that after 15 weeks of programming the 16th week won’t change that much, then yes, a little sarcasm is warranted.

  • Stefan

    They should be. Medium’s may not be as vocal as some of those rabid Chuck/Heroes/Dollhouse type fans, but let them cancel Medium and see if they don’t raise the roof.

    You think we didn’t try to save Pushing Daisies? Dirty Sexy Money? Studio 60? Better Off Ted?
    Fan campaigning never brings any results! We’re immaterial to them.

    And if you can’t figure out that after 15 weeks of programming the 16th week won’t change that much, then yes, a little sarcasm is warranted.

  • Tony

    Here’s how I think the CBS schedule next season will shake out:

    SUNDAY
    7 – 60 Minutes
    8 – Amazing Race
    9 – NEW DRAMA (Undercover Boss will be a filler)
    10 – The Good Wife

    MONDAY
    8 – Big Bang Theory / NEW SITCOM (Shatner’s???)
    9 – Two and a Half Men / NEW SITCOM
    10 – CSI: Miami

    TUESDAY
    8 – NCIS
    9 – NCIS: LA
    10 – Criminal Minds spinoff (NEW DRAMA)

    WEDNESDAY
    8 – How I Met Your Mother / NEW SITCOM (Rules of Engagement held over to be filler)
    9 – Criminal Minds
    10 – CSI: NY

    THURSDAY
    8 – Survivor: India
    9 – The Mentalist
    10 – CSI (original blend)

    FRIDAY
    8 – Ghost Whisperer
    9 – Medium
    10 – Hawaii Five-O (remake; NEW DRAMA)

    SATURDAY
    8 – Encores
    9 – Encores
    10 – 48 Hours Investigates

    Cold Case, Numbers, Gary Unmarried, and Accidentally On Purpose all canceled. New Adventures of Old Christine picked up by ABC, but stays on Wed. at 8 on rival network.

    3 New Dramas, 3 new sitcoms = 4.5 hours of new programming

    This is all assuming that Miami Medical flops, and that Rules of Engagement sticks with its tradition of getting a midseason holdover.

    I think rather than premiering in the fall, Undercover Boss will be used by CBS to fill in the gap for anything on the schedule that suddenly tanks…or else held over until the midseason reshuffle.

  • Tony

    Here’s how I think the CBS schedule next season will shake out:

    SUNDAY
    7 – 60 Minutes
    8 – Amazing Race
    9 – NEW DRAMA (Undercover Boss will be a filler)
    10 – The Good Wife

    MONDAY
    8 – Big Bang Theory / NEW SITCOM (Shatner’s???)
    9 – Two and a Half Men / NEW SITCOM
    10 – CSI: Miami

    TUESDAY
    8 – NCIS
    9 – NCIS: LA
    10 – Criminal Minds spinoff (NEW DRAMA)

    WEDNESDAY
    8 – How I Met Your Mother / NEW SITCOM (Rules of Engagement held over to be filler)
    9 – Criminal Minds
    10 – CSI: NY

    THURSDAY
    8 – Survivor: India
    9 – The Mentalist
    10 – CSI (original blend)

    FRIDAY
    8 – Ghost Whisperer
    9 – Medium
    10 – Hawaii Five-O (remake; NEW DRAMA)

    SATURDAY
    8 – Encores
    9 – Encores
    10 – 48 Hours Investigates

    Cold Case, Numbers, Gary Unmarried, and Accidentally On Purpose all canceled. New Adventures of Old Christine picked up by ABC, but stays on Wed. at 8 on rival network.

    3 New Dramas, 3 new sitcoms = 4.5 hours of new programming

    This is all assuming that Miami Medical flops, and that Rules of Engagement sticks with its tradition of getting a midseason holdover.

    I think rather than premiering in the fall, Undercover Boss will be used by CBS to fill in the gap for anything on the schedule that suddenly tanks…or else held over until the midseason reshuffle.

  • Theoacme

    Medium is a lot safer than a lot of people are worrying about – not quite “green” or “black” safe, but remember…

    …see that orange (P)?

    That means CBS owns the show – and there is no (P) for Ghost Whisperer…

    …so I’d call it even between Ghost Whisperer and Medium – if both got canceled, or neither, I wouldn’t be too surprised…

    …but if one did, I would be.

  • Theoacme

    Medium is a lot safer than a lot of people are worrying about – not quite “green” or “black” safe, but remember…

    …see that orange (P)?

    That means CBS owns the show – and there is no (P) for Ghost Whisperer…

    …so I’d call it even between Ghost Whisperer and Medium – if both got canceled, or neither, I wouldn’t be too surprised…

    …but if one did, I would be.

  • Anonymous

    I’d be much more surprised at both being canceled than just one (or neither).

  • Holly

    I’d be much more surprised at both being canceled than just one (or neither).

  • Theoacme

    If Ghost Whisperer and Medium were in the 0.70 area, I would be more likely to agree with you…

    …but remember CBS cancelled Worst Week (and it really was!), and it’s index was about 1.00…

    …I don’t see the Eye saying that Medium was safe, and Whisperer not, not with a 0.59 for Medium (I presume the HUT is higher on Fridays at 9 than at 8?).

    And I cannot see the Eye saying that Whisperer was safe and Medium not, as long as that (P) is next to Medium, and as long as Medium stays no further than 0.05 or so behind in the Index…

    …and remember, CBS could cancel both, because they can – they have sufficient shows to try to rebuild Fridays, one way or the other, if they so choose. Shoot – they could air Texas, Florida, or California high school football games, and get better ratings…

    …talk about a real Friday Night Lights :lol:

  • Theoacme

    If Ghost Whisperer and Medium were in the 0.70 area, I would be more likely to agree with you…

    …but remember CBS cancelled Worst Week (and it really was!), and it’s index was about 1.00…

    …I don’t see the Eye saying that Medium was safe, and Whisperer not, not with a 0.59 for Medium (I presume the HUT is higher on Fridays at 9 than at 8?).

    And I cannot see the Eye saying that Whisperer was safe and Medium not, as long as that (P) is next to Medium, and as long as Medium stays no further than 0.05 or so behind in the Index…

    …and remember, CBS could cancel both, because they can – they have sufficient shows to try to rebuild Fridays, one way or the other, if they so choose. Shoot – they could air Texas, Florida, or California high school football games, and get better ratings…

    …talk about a real Friday Night Lights :lol:

  • Stefan

    New theory: if RoE keeps pulling these numbers, then why mess with the good thing? Leave it where it is, full season, and just launch a new sitcom out of Christine Wednesdays at 8:30. Cancel the dead weight AoP and Gary. Shows like these will always be average.

  • Stefan

    New theory: if RoE keeps pulling these numbers, then why mess with the good thing? Leave it where it is, full season, and just launch a new sitcom out of Christine Wednesdays at 8:30. Cancel the dead weight AoP and Gary. Shows like these will always be average.

  • Stefan

    I think you’re jumping the gun on GW. One bad episode doesn’t mean it’s toast. Episode 5×15 aired on Friday, they have 9 more. Give it time.

  • Stefan

    I think you’re jumping the gun on GW. One bad episode doesn’t mean it’s toast. Episode 5×15 aired on Friday, they have 9 more. Give it time.

  • Mike

    Wouldn’t that mean there are 7 more?

  • Mike

    Wouldn’t that mean there are 7 more?

  • http://twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    The CM2 pilot will be shown on CM on April 7

    Ding ding ding. I had old info that said it would be episode 18 of this season. I dunno, it still might be. Not sure if 3/24 and 3/31 are repeats, which make it episode 19. Whatever… in the next month either way.

    Unless NBC has trademarked “Special Victims Unit”, CBS should use it for CM2. My god that would be hilarious.

  • http://twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    The CM2 pilot will be shown on CM on April 7

    Ding ding ding. I had old info that said it would be episode 18 of this season. I dunno, it still might be. Not sure if 3/24 and 3/31 are repeats, which make it episode 19. Whatever… in the next month either way.

    Unless NBC has trademarked “Special Victims Unit”, CBS should use it for CM2. My god that would be hilarious.

  • Stefan

    Mike, no, they have 24 episodes this season.

  • Stefan

    Mike, no, they have 24 episodes this season.

  • Dan

    TONY: After reviewing your prediction of the CBS Fall Schedule, I’d say you’re right on target!! That includes CHRISTINE moving to ABC for Wednesdays at 8.

    NICE JOB!!

    P.S. – Any thoughts on the other nets??

  • Dan

    TONY: After reviewing your prediction of the CBS Fall Schedule, I’d say you’re right on target!! That includes CHRISTINE moving to ABC for Wednesdays at 8.

    NICE JOB!!

    P.S. – Any thoughts on the other nets??

  • Tommy

    I don’t think Old Christine will be moving to ABC. Between the 3 comedies that have been renewed already, and at least two pilots that I think are shoe-ins for a pickup (Mr Sunshine with Matthew Perry, and It Takes a Village with Leah Remini) there isn’t going to be much room to pickup another networks scraps.

  • Tommy

    I don’t think Old Christine will be moving to ABC. Between the 3 comedies that have been renewed already, and at least two pilots that I think are shoe-ins for a pickup (Mr Sunshine with Matthew Perry, and It Takes a Village with Leah Remini) there isn’t going to be much room to pickup another networks scraps.

  • Stefan

    I liked the idea of Christine moving to ABC to the exact same timeslot at first, but then I remembered, it’s the spot where Hank tanked and Christine, being a pretty old show… I’m not sure how well it would do, not to mention it could drag down The Middle.
    Plus, if ABC gets Christine and Romantically Challenged takes off, then the only new sitcom will be Mr. Sunshine and I think ABC will want to see at least one more new sitcom.
    So, I’d say, Christine stays on CBS and ends next Spring.

  • Stefan

    I liked the idea of Christine moving to ABC to the exact same timeslot at first, but then I remembered, it’s the spot where Hank tanked and Christine, being a pretty old show… I’m not sure how well it would do, not to mention it could drag down The Middle.
    Plus, if ABC gets Christine and Romantically Challenged takes off, then the only new sitcom will be Mr. Sunshine and I think ABC will want to see at least one more new sitcom.
    So, I’d say, Christine stays on CBS and ends next Spring.

  • Stefan

    * no idea why I capitalized spring :D

  • Stefan

    * no idea why I capitalized spring :D

  • Mike

    I thought there were only going to be 22 episodes this year… Does that mean Medium will have 24 episodes too?

  • Mike

    I thought there were only going to be 22 episodes this year… Does that mean Medium will have 24 episodes too?

  • Stefan

    I’m not sure. I read it on Wikipedia a while ago, but now it says 22 suddenly. It could have been a misinformation, Wiki is full of that.

  • Stefan

    I’m not sure. I read it on Wikipedia a while ago, but now it says 22 suddenly. It could have been a misinformation, Wiki is full of that.

  • pete5125

    SUNDAY
    7 – 60 Minutes
    8 – Undercover Boss
    9 – Criminal Minds
    10 – Criminal Minds spinoff (NEW DRAMA)

    MONDAY
    8 – Big Bang Theory / NEW SITCOM (Shatner’s???)
    9 – Two and a Half Men / Rules of Engagement
    10 – NCIS: LA

    TUESDAY
    8 – NCIS
    9 – CSI: Miami
    10 – Hawaii 5-0

    WEDNESDAY
    8 – How I Met Your Mother/Gary Unmarried 9 – Old 9-Christine/ Accidently
    10 – CSI: NY

    THURSDAY
    8 – Survivor: India(Amazing Race will be a filler her and for Survivor)
    9 – The Mentalist
    10 – CSI (original blend)

    FRIDAY
    8 – Ghost Whisperer
    9 – Medium
    10 – Good Wife

    SATURDAY
    8 – Encores
    9 – Encores
    10 – 48 Hours Investigates

  • pete5125

    SUNDAY
    7 – 60 Minutes
    8 – Undercover Boss
    9 – Criminal Minds
    10 – Criminal Minds spinoff (NEW DRAMA)

    MONDAY
    8 – Big Bang Theory / NEW SITCOM (Shatner’s???)
    9 – Two and a Half Men / Rules of Engagement
    10 – NCIS: LA

    TUESDAY
    8 – NCIS
    9 – CSI: Miami
    10 – Hawaii 5-0

    WEDNESDAY
    8 – How I Met Your Mother/Gary Unmarried 9 – Old 9-Christine/ Accidently
    10 – CSI: NY

    THURSDAY
    8 – Survivor: India(Amazing Race will be a filler her and for Survivor)
    9 – The Mentalist
    10 – CSI (original blend)

    FRIDAY
    8 – Ghost Whisperer
    9 – Medium
    10 – Good Wife

    SATURDAY
    8 – Encores
    9 – Encores
    10 – 48 Hours Investigates

  • forg

    Rules of Engagement is also on the bubble I think because it drops from HIMYM although better numbers than what Accidentally on Purpose have gotten. I think CBS wants an 8:30 show that improves from HIMYM. My guess is that if they will renew Rules if will still be again a midseason show waiting if a new show they will launch next season fails.

    I’m predicting that CBS would scrap the Wednesday sitcoms since they will indeed get better numbers with a procedural on that slot.

  • forg

    Rules of Engagement is also on the bubble I think because it drops from HIMYM although better numbers than what Accidentally on Purpose have gotten. I think CBS wants an 8:30 show that improves from HIMYM. My guess is that if they will renew Rules if will still be again a midseason show waiting if a new show they will launch next season fails.

    I’m predicting that CBS would scrap the Wednesday sitcoms since they will indeed get better numbers with a procedural on that slot.

  • Stefan

    Forg, as much as I hate Rules (kind of like I hate CougarTown) these numbers are pretty impressive. A 3.6 out of a 3.9 (correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s about 90%) is great. I don’t think CBS expects the 8:30 show to be better than HIMYM, plus the :30 shows usually get lower ratings than the :00 ones. So I’d say Rules could go for a whole new season, just so it can prove that it can’t hold on for that long and THEN it can get canceled.
    God I’m mean sometimes. But I really can’t stand David Spade.

    I’m predicting that CBS would scrap the Wednesday sitcoms since they will indeed get better numbers with a procedural on that slot.
    Noooo! You were like the only one here besides me cheering for Christine and now this! :P
    Give it another season, then scrap the whole thing.

  • Stefan

    Forg, as much as I hate Rules (kind of like I hate CougarTown) these numbers are pretty impressive. A 3.6 out of a 3.9 (correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s about 90%) is great. I don’t think CBS expects the 8:30 show to be better than HIMYM, plus the :30 shows usually get lower ratings than the :00 ones. So I’d say Rules could go for a whole new season, just so it can prove that it can’t hold on for that long and THEN it can get canceled.
    God I’m mean sometimes. But I really can’t stand David Spade.

    I’m predicting that CBS would scrap the Wednesday sitcoms since they will indeed get better numbers with a procedural on that slot.
    Noooo! You were like the only one here besides me cheering for Christine and now this! :P
    Give it another season, then scrap the whole thing.

  • Shimbo

    I understand more as to why GW has the upperhand in the GW/Medium situation, but do you think CBS will be that risky to seperate that pairing?
    Regardless which show performs better any given week, both are nearly identical. I honestly think both shows are pretty safe (not 100% safe, but is anything that hasn’t been renewed yet?).
    I agree with Bill, CBS defnitely wont cancel all 3 shows on Friday (the Friday night lineup) and it’s doubtful they will cancel even 2. I think CBS see’s GW/Medium are a good pairing.

    Isn’t CBS more of a conservative network and doesn’t like to take chances or mess with something that is decent?

  • Shimbo

    I understand more as to why GW has the upperhand in the GW/Medium situation, but do you think CBS will be that risky to seperate that pairing?
    Regardless which show performs better any given week, both are nearly identical. I honestly think both shows are pretty safe (not 100% safe, but is anything that hasn’t been renewed yet?).
    I agree with Bill, CBS defnitely wont cancel all 3 shows on Friday (the Friday night lineup) and it’s doubtful they will cancel even 2. I think CBS see’s GW/Medium are a good pairing.

    Isn’t CBS more of a conservative network and doesn’t like to take chances or mess with something that is decent?

  • http://scottrosenberglaw.com/ Scott R.

    Why do you give Gary Unmarried a significant edge over Accidentally on Purpose? AOP has much better ratings in a much more competitive timeslot.

  • http://scottrosenberglaw.com Scott R.

    Why do you give Gary Unmarried a significant edge over Accidentally on Purpose? AOP has much better ratings in a much more competitive timeslot.

  • Anonymous

    @Shimbo,

    CBS does have the most stable schedule of the nets and they don’t tend to move things or mess with success. Their problem for the past several years is that very few of their shows do horrible and so they end up having to cancel something that’s doing OK just to make room for new shows. If Medium (or GW) gets canceled it won’t be because they have bad ratings, it will be because CBS is really high on their pilots and need to open up more timeslots.

  • Holly

    @Shimbo,

    CBS does have the most stable schedule of the nets and they don’t tend to move things or mess with success. Their problem for the past several years is that very few of their shows do horrible and so they end up having to cancel something that’s doing OK just to make room for new shows. If Medium (or GW) gets canceled it won’t be because they have bad ratings, it will be because CBS is really high on their pilots and need to open up more timeslots.

  • http://scottrosenberglaw.com/ Scott R.

    Pete –

    Not a Chance in Hell that is their schedule. There’s no way they’re splitting the NCISs, there’s no way they’ll move The Good Wife to Fridays, there’s no way they keep Rules, Gary, Christine, and Accidentally, or even three of those, and it’s extrememly unlikely they’d move HIMYM and Mentalist from their current date and time, respectively.

  • http://scottrosenberglaw.com Scott R.

    Pete –

    Not a Chance in Hell that is their schedule. There’s no way they’re splitting the NCISs, there’s no way they’ll move The Good Wife to Fridays, there’s no way they keep Rules, Gary, Christine, and Accidentally, or even three of those, and it’s extrememly unlikely they’d move HIMYM and Mentalist from their current date and time, respectively.

  • Stefan

    Scott,
    moving The Good Wife seems pretty logical at this point. It’s the weak link of the Tuesday line-up, plus it blends in perfectly with GW/Medium.

    But I agree with everything else you said – first and foremost, there’s NO WAY CBS will opt to expand their comedy line-up! And then the other stuff Pete said… very far-fetched.

  • Stefan

    Scott,
    moving The Good Wife seems pretty logical at this point. It’s the weak link of the Tuesday line-up, plus it blends in perfectly with GW/Medium.

    But I agree with everything else you said – first and foremost, there’s NO WAY CBS will opt to expand their comedy line-up! And then the other stuff Pete said… very far-fetched.

  • waterflame

    In the statement that there will be season 5 of GW they said there are gonna be 24 episodes(which isn’t a suprise after last years ratings), but Wikipedia says they’re 22. Idk… There was a post from the cast and they said that they’re filming the season finale THIS WEEK. They’re 9 episodes ahead(if this season has 24 eps), is that normal?

  • waterflame

    In the statement that there will be season 5 of GW they said there are gonna be 24 episodes(which isn’t a suprise after last years ratings), but Wikipedia says they’re 22. Idk… There was a post from the cast and they said that they’re filming the season finale THIS WEEK. They’re 9 episodes ahead(if this season has 24 eps), is that normal?

  • forg

    Stefan says:
    March 9, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Noooo! You were like the only one here besides me cheering for Christine and now this! :P
    Give it another season, then scrap the whole thing.

    I’m just thinking after two seasons of low ratings CBS had enough and looking at their list of pilots, a lot seems good enough. But of course I’m still hoping for a renewal, I’m counting on Warner Brothers to fight for this show :D

  • forg

    Stefan says:
    March 9, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Noooo! You were like the only one here besides me cheering for Christine and now this! :P
    Give it another season, then scrap the whole thing.

    I’m just thinking after two seasons of low ratings CBS had enough and looking at their list of pilots, a lot seems good enough. But of course I’m still hoping for a renewal, I’m counting on Warner Brothers to fight for this show :D

  • Medium fanatic

    Medium also deserves an “S” and P and F on this list.
    Yes CBS you should fear the Medium Fanatics because were older and buy cars and other products you advertise to us.

    Hey the spoiler sites only show 18 episodes of Medium this season…Any rabid Medium fans know for sure?

    Yah! Friday is female empowerment night and keep it that way…

  • Medium fanatic

    Medium also deserves an “S” and P and F on this list.
    Yes CBS you should fear the Medium Fanatics because were older and buy cars and other products you advertise to us.

    Hey the spoiler sites only show 18 episodes of Medium this season…Any rabid Medium fans know for sure?

    Yah! Friday is female empowerment night and keep it that way…

  • aznfratboy

    Hawaii Five-0 for 8pm Wednesday, it seems like Magnum PI and Miami Vice, crime somewhat with comedy and sex, so it won’t be too “mind-killing” for the kids. I doubt CM2 will go at 8pm, purely because I’ve seen some episodes of CM, and I doubt parents will want to see a guy beat another guy to a pulp at 7pm in some regions of the US

    Undercover Boss at 9pm, easy.

    The Good Wife/CM2 for the Sunday and Tuesday 10pm slots.

    NCIS LA will probably get another season after it’s father show, and then groom it for Thursday night, I personally think the 2010-11 season will be the final season for CSI, it’s the same old crap over and over again… Then in the 11-12 year, either NCIS LA or Mentalist will take it’s spot.

    Granted there’s still lots of decisions over at CBS to be made still, that’s just my 2 cents.

  • aznfratboy

    Hawaii Five-0 for 8pm Wednesday, it seems like Magnum PI and Miami Vice, crime somewhat with comedy and sex, so it won’t be too “mind-killing” for the kids. I doubt CM2 will go at 8pm, purely because I’ve seen some episodes of CM, and I doubt parents will want to see a guy beat another guy to a pulp at 7pm in some regions of the US

    Undercover Boss at 9pm, easy.

    The Good Wife/CM2 for the Sunday and Tuesday 10pm slots.

    NCIS LA will probably get another season after it’s father show, and then groom it for Thursday night, I personally think the 2010-11 season will be the final season for CSI, it’s the same old crap over and over again… Then in the 11-12 year, either NCIS LA or Mentalist will take it’s spot.

    Granted there’s still lots of decisions over at CBS to be made still, that’s just my 2 cents.

  • aby

    I might be mistaken but I thought the main reason CBS picked up Medium was to make sure it had enough episodes for its syndication deal with Lifetime. Once that magic number is established then the show becomes more expendable to make room for new shows. I watch Medium and enjoy it, but I certainly won’t be crushed if its the end of the road. I was glad CBS gave it at least one more season, but honestly it isn’t on my favorites list. If it comes back I will watch, if it gets cancelled, meh it was nice while it lasted.

  • aby

    I might be mistaken but I thought the main reason CBS picked up Medium was to make sure it had enough episodes for its syndication deal with Lifetime. Once that magic number is established then the show becomes more expendable to make room for new shows. I watch Medium and enjoy it, but I certainly won’t be crushed if its the end of the road. I was glad CBS gave it at least one more season, but honestly it isn’t on my favorites list. If it comes back I will watch, if it gets cancelled, meh it was nice while it lasted.

  • Jon

    So maybe a dumb question. But I’ve really only started watching alot of these scripted dramas this season. When would new episodes(after this weeks) of Criminal minds, CSI: NY, Mentalist, and all that start airing?

  • Jon

    So maybe a dumb question. But I’ve really only started watching alot of these scripted dramas this season. When would new episodes(after this weeks) of Criminal minds, CSI: NY, Mentalist, and all that start airing?

  • Stefan

    @waterflame,
    every show has its pace. I know, for example, that B&S is shooting episode 20 right now; they have 4 more to go.
    Series usually finish production in late April, which means they usually wrap up the shooting part in late March/early April. However if GW is already shooting the season finale, I think there’s next to no chance that the season has 24 episodes. Looks like this season’s last episode will be the show’s 107th.

    @Jon,
    all scripted shows are shown on a weekly basis, however, there are some gaps between episodes sometimes because 22-24 weeks of programming have to be stretched out to ~36 weeks. Right now it seems that CBS is taking a three-week break from its scripted programming (I have no idea why though) so look for your shows in early April again.

  • Stefan

    @waterflame,
    every show has its pace. I know, for example, that B&S is shooting episode 20 right now; they have 4 more to go.
    Series usually finish production in late April, which means they usually wrap up the shooting part in late March/early April. However if GW is already shooting the season finale, I think there’s next to no chance that the season has 24 episodes. Looks like this season’s last episode will be the show’s 107th.

    @Jon,
    all scripted shows are shown on a weekly basis, however, there are some gaps between episodes sometimes because 22-24 weeks of programming have to be stretched out to ~36 weeks. Right now it seems that CBS is taking a three-week break from its scripted programming (I have no idea why though) so look for your shows in early April again.

  • Jon

    Thanks stefan. I know they air weekly, I was just wondering if the seasons were already over? But if it’s just a 3 week gap, that’s fine with me. But when are the normal big gaps/breaks between first runs.

  • Jon

    Thanks stefan. I know they air weekly, I was just wondering if the seasons were already over? But if it’s just a 3 week gap, that’s fine with me. But when are the normal big gaps/breaks between first runs.

  • Shimbo

    @ Holly

    Thank you for answering my questions! I heard that CBS might only pick up 2-3 drama’s instead of its usual 3-4. Do you know if there is any word yet how many drama’s they are picking up this season?
    I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but wouldn’t they want to keep Medium and GW on Friday’s because it does fare pretty well in the ratings (especially for that night?

    Three Rivers is gone- which opened up room for 1 new drama and presumably CC and Numb3ers are gonna get the axe which opens up room for 2 more, wouldn’t that be enough? I was just thinking about it.

    @ Medium fanatic

    The spoiler sites only show’s 18 episodes being filmed, but Medium is supposed to have 22 episodes this season. They might not be done filming. They still have the end of March and early April. And unlike GW there was no word the last episode they shot, was the season finale.

  • Shimbo

    @ Holly

    Thank you for answering my questions! I heard that CBS might only pick up 2-3 drama’s instead of its usual 3-4. Do you know if there is any word yet how many drama’s they are picking up this season?
    I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but wouldn’t they want to keep Medium and GW on Friday’s because it does fare pretty well in the ratings (especially for that night?

    Three Rivers is gone- which opened up room for 1 new drama and presumably CC and Numb3ers are gonna get the axe which opens up room for 2 more, wouldn’t that be enough? I was just thinking about it.

    @ Medium fanatic

    The spoiler sites only show’s 18 episodes being filmed, but Medium is supposed to have 22 episodes this season. They might not be done filming. They still have the end of March and early April. And unlike GW there was no word the last episode they shot, was the season finale.

  • Theoacme

    @aznfratboy – if 5-0 is as you describe, I won’t watch it – I am too close to the edge of the demo not to remember the original, which was fairly good…

    …and TVBTN should send a nice gift basket to Ms. Tasker – thank you, CBS, for giving us something to talk about :D

  • Theoacme

    @aznfratboy – if 5-0 is as you describe, I won’t watch it – I am too close to the edge of the demo not to remember the original, which was fairly good…

    …and TVBTN should send a nice gift basket to Ms. Tasker – thank you, CBS, for giving us something to talk about :D

  • http://www.twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    Of the several things that don’t make sense in your sked pete, this makes the least sense:

    SUNDAY
    7 – 60 Minutes
    8 – Undercover Boss
    9 – Criminal Minds
    10 – Criminal Minds spinoff (NEW DRAMA)

  • http://www.twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    Of the several things that don’t make sense in your sked pete, this makes the least sense:

    SUNDAY
    7 – 60 Minutes
    8 – Undercover Boss
    9 – Criminal Minds
    10 – Criminal Minds spinoff (NEW DRAMA)

  • Mark

    People should stop commenting on undercover boss. You obviously have no idea. Many said it was a dumb idea to put it after the superbowl. Others said it wont last but a few weeks 1 season etc. Obviously cbs execs were much smarter than many of us speculating on the show. I bet undercover brother will do just fine next season.

  • Mark

    People should stop commenting on undercover boss. You obviously have no idea. Many said it was a dumb idea to put it after the superbowl. Others said it wont last but a few weeks 1 season etc. Obviously cbs execs were much smarter than many of us speculating on the show. I bet undercover brother will do just fine next season.

  • Stefan

    @Jon, seasons end in mid-May or sometimes late April. The gaps are usually the last three weeks of December and the last three weeks of March (after the November/February sweeps). But since there’s another six weeks of breaks, they usually come randomly or when a big event (Superbowl, Oscars) is aired.
    A good rule of thumb is – if one scripted show on a network takes a week-long break, they all do. That’s not always the case though.

    @Shimbo:
    The Three Rivers gap has already been filled with Undercover Boss, so I think there’ll only be two new dramas (CM2 and Hawaii 5-0; CC and Numbers canned) and one or two new comedies (Chuck Lorre’s and Shatner’s comedies have the best shot IMO; Gary and AoP will be canceled and either Christine or Rules would have to go to midseason probably) which is tragic because both new sitcoms sound pretty stupid.

  • Stefan

    @Jon, seasons end in mid-May or sometimes late April. The gaps are usually the last three weeks of December and the last three weeks of March (after the November/February sweeps). But since there’s another six weeks of breaks, they usually come randomly or when a big event (Superbowl, Oscars) is aired.
    A good rule of thumb is – if one scripted show on a network takes a week-long break, they all do. That’s not always the case though.

    @Shimbo:
    The Three Rivers gap has already been filled with Undercover Boss, so I think there’ll only be two new dramas (CM2 and Hawaii 5-0; CC and Numbers canned) and one or two new comedies (Chuck Lorre’s and Shatner’s comedies have the best shot IMO; Gary and AoP will be canceled and either Christine or Rules would have to go to midseason probably) which is tragic because both new sitcoms sound pretty stupid.

  • ShimBo

    @Stefan

    Thanks for clearing that up… I wasn’t sure what was going on with Three Rivers, although I knew it was cancelled for a while.

    I am obviously failry new to TVBTN/CBS forum, so I am still getting used to how network’s run things and how they think and how people perceive shows.

    People seem very passionate about the shows they love, so it’s great to have a site, with such insite.

  • ShimBo

    @Stefan

    Thanks for clearing that up… I wasn’t sure what was going on with Three Rivers, although I knew it was cancelled for a while.

    I am obviously failry new to TVBTN/CBS forum, so I am still getting used to how network’s run things and how they think and how people perceive shows.

    People seem very passionate about the shows they love, so it’s great to have a site, with such insite.

  • Tony

    Dan,

    I think I’m pretty close too, unless they swap The Good Wife and Hawaii Five-O slots based on my sample schedule. I’d have to dig up the link, but ABC execs have apparently left open the possibility of picking up Old Christine yet once AGAIN, if CBS cancels it in May.

    If ABC doesn’t want to pair Old Christine with its single-camera comedies on Wednesday, the other option is for ABC to schedule Old Christine on Tuesday at 9 with Dancing With The Stars as its lead-in, and pair it with a new comedy at 9:30 to establish a one-hour comedy block on Tuesday night.

    I haven’t given a lot of thought to the fall schedules on the other networks (and I’m less familiar with their pilot development), but I don’t think a CBS thread is the appropriate place for me to begin posting sample schedules for ABC/NBC/Fox/CW.

    I still think CBS will keep its NCIS/NCIS:LA pairing on Tuesday, its CM/CSI:NY pairing on Wednesday, its Mentalist/CSI pairing on Thursday, and its GW/Medium pairing on Friday…CBS has a pretty good thing going overall (compared to the other networks) and I don’t think they’ll end up tinkering where it’s not absolutely critical for them to do so.

    RE: Undercover Boss…

    I’m not sure why people here are so certain that Undercover Boss will air from September to May as a full-season (22 episodes or more) show. Both Survivor and The Amazing Race air in uninterrupted chunks throughout the season, so although Undercover Boss does stand-alone episodes I’d expect CBS to schedule it similarly. The other issue, as some people pointed out here, is that now the American public is aware of the Undercover Boss template so the producers will have to come up with some new twist to keep it fresh to prevent the covert CEOs from being prematurely exposed. Joe Millionaire had that problem, and didn’t make it past its second season. Even the show True Beauty, which is returning on ABC this summer, has to trick its Season 2 participants into thinking they’re on a totally different show in order to retain the element of surprise/ambush.

    Personally, I think Rules of Engagement is one of the worst-written, most badly-casted shows on television…so in my heart I’m gleefully rooting for its demise, even though my head tells me differently. I pretty much feel the same way about Criminal Minds…the difference being that (objectively speaking) CM is clearly a much bigger hit for CBS than RoE is.

  • Tony

    Dan,

    I think I’m pretty close too, unless they swap The Good Wife and Hawaii Five-O slots based on my sample schedule. I’d have to dig up the link, but ABC execs have apparently left open the possibility of picking up Old Christine yet once AGAIN, if CBS cancels it in May.

    If ABC doesn’t want to pair Old Christine with its single-camera comedies on Wednesday, the other option is for ABC to schedule Old Christine on Tuesday at 9 with Dancing With The Stars as its lead-in, and pair it with a new comedy at 9:30 to establish a one-hour comedy block on Tuesday night.

    I haven’t given a lot of thought to the fall schedules on the other networks (and I’m less familiar with their pilot development), but I don’t think a CBS thread is the appropriate place for me to begin posting sample schedules for ABC/NBC/Fox/CW.

    I still think CBS will keep its NCIS/NCIS:LA pairing on Tuesday, its CM/CSI:NY pairing on Wednesday, its Mentalist/CSI pairing on Thursday, and its GW/Medium pairing on Friday…CBS has a pretty good thing going overall (compared to the other networks) and I don’t think they’ll end up tinkering where it’s not absolutely critical for them to do so.

    RE: Undercover Boss…

    I’m not sure why people here are so certain that Undercover Boss will air from September to May as a full-season (22 episodes or more) show. Both Survivor and The Amazing Race air in uninterrupted chunks throughout the season, so although Undercover Boss does stand-alone episodes I’d expect CBS to schedule it similarly. The other issue, as some people pointed out here, is that now the American public is aware of the Undercover Boss template so the producers will have to come up with some new twist to keep it fresh to prevent the covert CEOs from being prematurely exposed. Joe Millionaire had that problem, and didn’t make it past its second season. Even the show True Beauty, which is returning on ABC this summer, has to trick its Season 2 participants into thinking they’re on a totally different show in order to retain the element of surprise/ambush.

    Personally, I think Rules of Engagement is one of the worst-written, most badly-casted shows on television…so in my heart I’m gleefully rooting for its demise, even though my head tells me differently. I pretty much feel the same way about Criminal Minds…the difference being that (objectively speaking) CM is clearly a much bigger hit for CBS than RoE is.

  • http://twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    I pretty much feel the same way about Criminal Minds

    You feel CM is badly written and casted? It might not be everyone’s cup of tea and that is understandable, but it is very well written and the casting is fantastic, hence the show building in viewership since 2005 while many other shows have been unable to accomplish that.

  • http://twitter.com/adrian_e Acey

    I pretty much feel the same way about Criminal Minds

    You feel CM is badly written and casted? It might not be everyone’s cup of tea and that is understandable, but it is very well written and the casting is fantastic, hence the show building in viewership since 2005 while many other shows have been unable to accomplish that.

  • John

    In My honnest opinion I don’t think they should start new shows on Sunday nights on CBS 3 Rivers never had a chance this year becaseu of net work overruns of sport events. My wife and I both thought it was a very good show. We are also Cold Case fans and think that show was screwed in the over runs as well.

  • John

    In My honnest opinion I don’t think they should start new shows on Sunday nights on CBS 3 Rivers never had a chance this year becaseu of net work overruns of sport events. My wife and I both thought it was a very good show. We are also Cold Case fans and think that show was screwed in the over runs as well.

  • Shimbo

    What happened to all the comments?

  • http://tvbythenumbers.com/ Bill Gorman

    We changed comment systems. The old comments are supposed to be transferring over, but its taking quite a bit of time. We are monitoring things, but have no ETA

  • Shimbo

    Thanks Bill!

  • jp

    It would be a tragedy if Gary Unmarried is renewed and Old Christine is cancelled. Gary Unmarried is possibly the worst comedy on television!

  • xerophytes

    All I can see is “CSI”.

    Ugh. Is CBS offering something new to its audience?

  • Tony

    You feel CM is badly written and casted? It might not be everyone's cup of tea and that is understandable, but it is very well written and the casting is fantastic, hence the show building in viewership since 2005 while many other shows have been unable to accomplish that.

    @Acey

    There's no accounting for the (lack of) taste of Nielsen families (how else would you explain the success of Deal or No Deal…or even how double-digit millions tune in to watch a drawn-out, overhyped results show of American Idol each week)?

    The episodes of Criminal Minds that I've watched have all had subpar writing and wooden acting…maybe I'm biased because I've got Mandy Patinkin issues (and yes, I realize he's off the show now — and no, I haven't seen any post-Gideon episodes). Joe Mantegna is a fantastic actor on his own merits, and A.J. Cook is also a wonderful actress (although CM hasn't given her much to work with, from what I've seen, and she deserves better)…they could probably cast my favorite actors in new roles on the show and I still probably wouldn't watch. I don't mind the darkness or the graphic imagery…it's just that the writing and concept is bland, and there are no interesting characters to keep me hooked (the Garcia character is clearly a poor woman's Abby Sciuto).

    Maybe I'd give CM a second look if they added some top-tier characters with personality. But from what I've seen, the show so far would be a waste of my time. As far as criminal investigative (scripted) series go, Criminal Minds pales in comparison to others on the schedule, even within the CBS family…give me NCIS, Medium, Numb3rs, or The Mentalist anyday, instead!

  • http://twitter.com/adrian_e An0malous

    To each his own. I'm a huge fan of Simon Baker and The Mentalist crew, but watching over 100 episodes of CM I love all of their characters in their own right. Can't wait for April 7 to see the CM2 cast, but at the same time I don't know how 2 of these shows will do on the network.

  • Smidnite

    I'd rather “lament” about Cold Case than watch Medium.

  • Smidnite

    I'd rather “lament” about Cold Case than watch Medium.

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