Ouch for Parenthood. Not the end, but that sucks for NBC. There was a discussion about “24″ production costs. Parenthood has a large cast with well-established talent. It can’t be cheap either and that cannot be good news for the show.

Ouch for Parenthood. Not the end, but that sucks for NBC. There was a discussion about “24″ production costs. Parenthood has a large cast with well-established talent. It can’t be cheap either and that cannot be good news for the show.

Ouch for Parenthood. Not the end, but that sucks for NBC. There was a discussion about “24″ production costs. Parenthood has a large cast with well-established talent. It can’t be cheap either and that cannot be good news for the show.

Ouch for Parenthood. Not the end, but that sucks for NBC. There was a discussion about “24″ production costs. Parenthood has a large cast with well-established talent. It can’t be cheap either and that cannot be good news for the show.

If Parenthood doesn’t slip too much more, I’d say its looking good for a second season.

A 3.0 repeat is impressive. What were the ratings for the last few new episodes of Glee? It would be interesting to see how big a difference AI makes with that show once the new episodes come in April.

As for Melrose Place – stick a fork in it, its done.

If Parenthood doesn’t slip too much more, I’d say its looking good for a second season.

A 3.0 repeat is impressive. What were the ratings for the last few new episodes of Glee? It would be interesting to see how big a difference AI makes with that show once the new episodes come in April.

As for Melrose Place – stick a fork in it, its done.

If Parenthood doesn’t slip too much more, I’d say its looking good for a second season.

A 3.0 repeat is impressive. What were the ratings for the last few new episodes of Glee? It would be interesting to see how big a difference AI makes with that show once the new episodes come in April.

As for Melrose Place – stick a fork in it, its done.

Ouch for Parenthood. Not the end, but that sucks for NBC. There was a discussion about “24″ production costs. Parenthood has a large cast with well-established talent. It can’t be cheap either and that cannot be good news for the show.

If Parenthood doesn’t slip too much more, I’d say its looking good for a second season.

A 3.0 repeat is impressive. What were the ratings for the last few new episodes of Glee? It would be interesting to see how big a difference AI makes with that show once the new episodes come in April.

As for Melrose Place – stick a fork in it, its done.

Did Lux top both 90210 and Melrose?

Did Lux top both 90210 and Melrose?

Did Lux top both 90210 and Melrose?

Did Lux top both 90210 and Melrose?

Did Lux top both 90210 and Melrose?

Brad, yes. Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7

Brad, yes. Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7

Brad, yes. Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7

Brad, yes. Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7

Didn’t Dawn just give that show a renewal? (Melrose Place)

Didn’t Dawn just give that show a renewal? (Melrose Place)

Didn’t Dawn just give that show a renewal? (Melrose Place)

Didn’t Dawn just give that show a renewal? (Melrose Place)

This is only Parenthood’s second outing, so that drop is pretty troubling for the long-term prospects of the show…especially the major drop from the first half hour to the second. A good percentage of people are not finding it compelling enough to stay tuned the whole hour.

This is only Parenthood’s second outing, so that drop is pretty troubling for the long-term prospects of the show…especially the major drop from the first half hour to the second. A good percentage of people are not finding it compelling enough to stay tuned the whole hour.

This is only Parenthood’s second outing, so that drop is pretty troubling for the long-term prospects of the show…especially the major drop from the first half hour to the second. A good percentage of people are not finding it compelling enough to stay tuned the whole hour.

This is only Parenthood’s second outing, so that drop is pretty troubling for the long-term prospects of the show…especially the major drop from the first half hour to the second. A good percentage of people are not finding it compelling enough to stay tuned the whole hour.

And NCIS just keep on agoin’…..

And NCIS just keep on agoin’…..

And NCIS just keep on agoin’…..

And NCIS just keep on agoin’…..

Sucks for Parenthood, last nights episode was pretty humorous, hopefully the series can stay steady from this point. with V coming back in two weeks, that 10 pm slot might be a bit difficult.

Sucks for Parenthood, last nights episode was pretty humorous, hopefully the series can stay steady from this point. with V coming back in two weeks, that 10 pm slot might be a bit difficult.

Sucks for Parenthood, last nights episode was pretty humorous, hopefully the series can stay steady from this point. with V coming back in two weeks, that 10 pm slot might be a bit difficult.

Sucks for Parenthood, last nights episode was pretty humorous, hopefully the series can stay steady from this point. with V coming back in two weeks, that 10 pm slot might be a bit difficult.

Brad, yes. Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7

Didn’t Dawn just give that show a renewal? (Melrose Place)

This is only Parenthood’s second outing, so that drop is pretty troubling for the long-term prospects of the show…especially the major drop from the first half hour to the second. A good percentage of people are not finding it compelling enough to stay tuned the whole hour.

And NCIS just keep on agoin’…..

Sucks for Parenthood, last nights episode was pretty humorous, hopefully the series can stay steady from this point. with V coming back in two weeks, that 10 pm slot might be a bit difficult.

Kareem: no. But 90210 was already renewed.

Kareem: no. But 90210 was already renewed.

Wow, at Melrose Place. No one should be surprised though.

Wow, at Melrose Place. No one should be surprised though.

Wow, at Melrose Place. No one should be surprised though.

Wow, at Melrose Place. No one should be surprised though.

Kareem: no. But 90210 was already renewed.

Wow, at Melrose Place. No one should be surprised though.

Why is a 3.0 for Glee surprising? It’s got the coveted post-Idol slot. Put a repeat of Hank there and it’ll still get that much.

Why is a 3.0 for Glee surprising? It’s got the coveted post-Idol slot. Put a repeat of Hank there and it’ll still get that much.

Why is a 3.0 for Glee surprising? It’s got the coveted post-Idol slot. Put a repeat of Hank there and it’ll still get that much.

Why is a 3.0 for Glee surprising? It’s got the coveted post-Idol slot. Put a repeat of Hank there and it’ll still get that much.

Doesn’t look like such a smart idea for The CW to keep their shows off air for three months

Doesn’t look like such a smart idea for The CW to keep their shows off air for three months

Doesn’t look like such a smart idea for The CW to keep their shows off air for three months

Doesn’t look like such a smart idea for The CW to keep their shows off air for three months

Doesn’t look like such a smart idea for The CW to keep their shows off air for three months

Doesn’t look like such a smart idea for The CW to keep their shows off air for three months

don’t be tragic
Parenthood obtains good ratings 2.6 for nbc are ok! Every shows drop in the second half and if it becomes stable at 2.6 2.4 it will surely renewed.

don’t be tragic
Parenthood obtains good ratings 2.6 for nbc are ok! Every shows drop in the second half and if it becomes stable at 2.6 2.4 it will surely renewed.

don’t be tragic
Parenthood obtains good ratings 2.6 for nbc are ok! Every shows drop in the second half and if it becomes stable at 2.6 2.4 it will surely renewed.

don’t be tragic
Parenthood obtains good ratings 2.6 for nbc are ok! Every shows drop in the second half and if it becomes stable at 2.6 2.4 it will surely renewed.

don’t be tragic
Parenthood obtains good ratings 2.6 for nbc are ok! Every shows drop in the second half and if it becomes stable at 2.6 2.4 it will surely renewed.

If it slips anymore, Parenthood should be canceled.

If it slips anymore, Parenthood should be canceled.

If it slips anymore, Parenthood should be canceled.

If it slips anymore, Parenthood should be canceled.

If it slips anymore, Parenthood should be canceled.

don’t be tragic
Parenthood obtains good ratings 2.6 for nbc are ok! Every shows drop in the second half and if it becomes stable at 2.6 2.4 it will surely renewed.

If it slips anymore, Parenthood should be canceled.

The Good Wife beating Parenthood is embarrassing. Straight up embarrassing… there’s no sense trying to sugar coat it.

The Good Wife beating Parenthood is embarrassing. Straight up embarrassing… there’s no sense trying to sugar coat it.

The Good Wife beating Parenthood is embarrassing. Straight up embarrassing… there’s no sense trying to sugar coat it.

The Good Wife beating Parenthood is embarrassing. Straight up embarrassing… there’s no sense trying to sugar coat it.

im really shocked at how low 90210 was… maybe fans didnt know it was back this week? but Melrose is so done, there almost at Beautiful life ratings

It really does make you wonder just what new Glee will get to after AI. 4.5?

Parenthood isn’t great, but it isn’t disastrous either – NBC intentionally put it at 10pm to provide the best lead-in to 11pm news, even though they knew the ratings would suffer. And bear in mind most shows lose 20% from their premieres, so 16% isn’t terrible. Still, I imagine Parenthood’s survival will be a recurring question until the upfronts.

MP getting a 06. 18-34 is pretty bad, but what was the W18-34? Not that the show is coming back regardless..

It really does make you wonder just what new Glee will get to after AI. 4.5?

Parenthood isn’t great, but it isn’t disastrous either – NBC intentionally put it at 10pm to provide the best lead-in to 11pm news, even though they knew the ratings would suffer. And bear in mind most shows lose 20% from their premieres, so 16% isn’t terrible. Still, I imagine Parenthood’s survival will be a recurring question until the upfronts.

MP getting a 06. 18-34 is pretty bad, but what was the W18-34? Not that the show is coming back regardless..

The Good Wife beating Parenthood is embarrassing. Straight up embarrassing… there’s no sense trying to sugar coat it.

im really shocked at how low 90210 was… maybe fans didnt know it was back this week? but Melrose is so done, there almost at Beautiful life ratings

It really does make you wonder just what new Glee will get to after AI. 4.5?

Parenthood isn’t great, but it isn’t disastrous either – NBC intentionally put it at 10pm to provide the best lead-in to 11pm news, even though they knew the ratings would suffer. And bear in mind most shows lose 20% from their premieres, so 16% isn’t terrible. Still, I imagine Parenthood’s survival will be a recurring question until the upfronts.

MP getting a 06. 18-34 is pretty bad, but what was the W18-34? Not that the show is coming back regardless..

Why isn’t ABC using Lost better than it has as a lead?

I love The Good Wife and glad to see them leading the pack at 10:00. It’s really a terrific and well written show. Hopefully it retains the audience it has and doesn’t drop lower.

Parenthood what a shame. It was actually an improved show last night but quality doesn’t matter(FNL anyone) and ouch to the drop from 10 to 10:30. It got a nice lead in from TBL. I’m just still struggling to see what demo NBC is going after. I can’t see many men enjoying this show but who knows.

And wow to Glee for the repeat doing as well as it did.

Why isn’t ABC using Lost better than it has as a lead?

I love The Good Wife and glad to see them leading the pack at 10:00. It’s really a terrific and well written show. Hopefully it retains the audience it has and doesn’t drop lower.

Parenthood what a shame. It was actually an improved show last night but quality doesn’t matter(FNL anyone) and ouch to the drop from 10 to 10:30. It got a nice lead in from TBL. I’m just still struggling to see what demo NBC is going after. I can’t see many men enjoying this show but who knows.

And wow to Glee for the repeat doing as well as it did.

and also the biggest loser too at 8 obtains only 2.6 and 7 milions so it’s not a bad performance. We’ll see next week what happens

and also the biggest loser too at 8 obtains only 2.6 and 7 milions so it’s not a bad performance. We’ll see next week what happens

Why isn’t ABC using Lost better than it has as a lead?

I love The Good Wife and glad to see them leading the pack at 10:00. It’s really a terrific and well written show. Hopefully it retains the audience it has and doesn’t drop lower.

Parenthood what a shame. It was actually an improved show last night but quality doesn’t matter(FNL anyone) and ouch to the drop from 10 to 10:30. It got a nice lead in from TBL. I’m just still struggling to see what demo NBC is going after. I can’t see many men enjoying this show but who knows.

And wow to Glee for the repeat doing as well as it did.

and also the biggest loser too at 8 obtains only 2.6 and 7 milions so it’s not a bad performance. We’ll see next week what happens

Too bad for 90210 ‘/
but the episode was great

Too bad for 90210 ‘/
but the episode was great

Must be some concern at NBC, they give Parenthood everything they can, one of the few soft NBC slots competitionwise, their best lead in, big promo and it premieres to less than expected, now this week drops to sligtly above average NBC demos, what happens next week. I don’t find it a bad show at all, I just don’t find it particularly good, with competition like The Good Wife and the Forgotten (canceled, just not announced) it should be doing better, and that is a pretty precipitous drop in demos over the half hour. NBC has to hope that people aren’t sampling and then moving to other shows.

Impressive for Glee especially and for NCIS : LA to push Biggest Loser, usually one of NBC’s strongest performers to fourth place for their first half hour.

Must be some concern at NBC, they give Parenthood everything they can, one of the few soft NBC slots competitionwise, their best lead in, big promo and it premieres to less than expected, now this week drops to sligtly above average NBC demos, what happens next week. I don’t find it a bad show at all, I just don’t find it particularly good, with competition like The Good Wife and the Forgotten (canceled, just not announced) it should be doing better, and that is a pretty precipitous drop in demos over the half hour. NBC has to hope that people aren’t sampling and then moving to other shows.

Impressive for Glee especially and for NCIS : LA to push Biggest Loser, usually one of NBC’s strongest performers to fourth place for their first half hour.

Well, hopefully that shows CW Lux is worth keeping. MP is dead, 90210 renewed, but maybe CW will give Lux another chance. MP is pulling TBL numbers right now….damn.

Well, hopefully that shows CW Lux is worth keeping. MP is dead, 90210 renewed, but maybe CW will give Lux another chance. MP is pulling TBL numbers right now….damn.

Too bad for 90210 ‘/
but the episode was great

Must be some concern at NBC, they give Parenthood everything they can, one of the few soft NBC slots competitionwise, their best lead in, big promo and it premieres to less than expected, now this week drops to sligtly above average NBC demos, what happens next week. I don’t find it a bad show at all, I just don’t find it particularly good, with competition like The Good Wife and the Forgotten (canceled, just not announced) it should be doing better, and that is a pretty precipitous drop in demos over the half hour. NBC has to hope that people aren’t sampling and then moving to other shows.

Impressive for Glee especially and for NCIS : LA to push Biggest Loser, usually one of NBC’s strongest performers to fourth place for their first half hour.

Well, hopefully that shows CW Lux is worth keeping. MP is dead, 90210 renewed, but maybe CW will give Lux another chance. MP is pulling TBL numbers right now….damn.

@Acey why enbarrassing. The Good Wife is a better show(not that it matters) and Marguiles has a larger following IMO than anyone on Parenthood. I’d venture to say of she was on Parenthood, it would be doing better. But maybe I’m putting too much on her shoulders.

@Acey why enbarrassing. The Good Wife is a better show(not that it matters) and Marguiles has a larger following IMO than anyone on Parenthood. I’d venture to say of she was on Parenthood, it would be doing better. But maybe I’m putting too much on her shoulders.

@Acey why enbarrassing. The Good Wife is a better show(not that it matters) and Marguiles has a larger following IMO than anyone on Parenthood. I’d venture to say of she was on Parenthood, it would be doing better. But maybe I’m putting too much on her shoulders.

Brad, Lux is fighting with OTH to get renewed, not MP… so this doesn’t make a difference, really. MP was resigned to the gallows some time ago.

Brad, Lux is fighting with OTH to get renewed, not MP… so this doesn’t make a difference, really. MP was resigned to the gallows some time ago.

Melrose is sure dead now!
90210 ratings are awful same with MP’s in fall!!

Melrose is sure dead now!
90210 ratings are awful same with MP’s in fall!!

Hmmm, NCIS went down a tad in the key demo. Not good even though it’s getting real close to catching AI in total viewers even though everyone says that doesn’t matter at all for whatever reason.

Hmmm, NCIS went down a tad in the key demo. Not good even though it’s getting real close to catching AI in total viewers even though everyone says that doesn’t matter at all for whatever reason.

fra, I’m not sure that’s true that every show drops in the second half hour. I thought that was a bad sign if people don’t stick with the show all the way through. (I’m sure Robert will correct me if I’m wrong!) In this case, I think it’s a sign that Parenthood had a good start with a decent lead-in, but didn’t keep all of its lead-in for the second half-hour.

fra, I’m not sure that’s true that every show drops in the second half hour. I thought that was a bad sign if people don’t stick with the show all the way through. (I’m sure Robert will correct me if I’m wrong!) In this case, I think it’s a sign that Parenthood had a good start with a decent lead-in, but didn’t keep all of its lead-in for the second half-hour.

Too bad for Parenthood. They had a great show last night. I’m afraid this will be the end.

Why are all the great shows so poor-rated?

Too bad for Parenthood. They had a great show last night. I’m afraid this will be the end.

Why are all the great shows so poor-rated?

fra, I’m not sure that’s true that every show drops in the second half hour. I thought that was a bad sign if people don’t stick with the show all the way through. (I’m sure Robert will correct me if I’m wrong!) In this case, I think it’s a sign that Parenthood had a good start with a decent lead-in, but didn’t keep all of its lead-in for the second half-hour.

Too bad for Parenthood. They had a great show last night. I’m afraid this will be the end.

Why are all the great shows so poor-rated?

Brad, Lux is fighting with OTH to get renewed, not MP… so this doesn’t make a difference, really. MP was resigned to the gallows some time ago.

Melrose is sure dead now!
90210 ratings are awful same with MP’s in fall!!

Hmmm, NCIS went down a tad in the key demo. Not good even though it’s getting real close to catching AI in total viewers even though everyone says that doesn’t matter at all for whatever reason.

The fact that One Tree Hill hasn’t been renewed yet is ridiculous. GG and 90210 (both given early renewals) are scoring much lower than OTH and LUX

The fact that One Tree Hill hasn’t been renewed yet is ridiculous. GG and 90210 (both given early renewals) are scoring much lower than OTH and LUX

“Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7″

Someone tell me please where I can find other demo categories for The CW shows? (A18-34, W18-34 etc.)

Sorry for my English.

“Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7″

Someone tell me please where I can find other demo categories for The CW shows? (A18-34, W18-34 etc.)

Sorry for my English.

The fact that One Tree Hill hasn’t been renewed yet is ridiculous. GG and 90210 (both given early renewals) are scoring much lower than OTH and LUX

“Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7″

Someone tell me please where I can find other demo categories for The CW shows? (A18-34, W18-34 etc.)

Sorry for my English.

Chuck > Parenthood

They both are getting about the same numbers, besides Chuck has tougher competition.

I would gladly like to see Chuck compete against The Good Wife and the forgotten (likely axed) compared to House, HIMYM/RoE(BBT), LUX and Bachelor/Dancing.

Chuck > Parenthood

They both are getting about the same numbers, besides Chuck has tougher competition.

I would gladly like to see Chuck compete against The Good Wife and the forgotten (likely axed) compared to House, HIMYM/RoE(BBT), LUX and Bachelor/Dancing.

Chuck > Parenthood

They both are getting about the same numbers, besides Chuck has tougher competition.

I would gladly like to see Chuck compete against The Good Wife and the forgotten (likely axed) compared to House, HIMYM/RoE(BBT), LUX and Bachelor/Dancing.

IMO it was a bad idea to put Parenthood up against The Good Wife. Not only do they seem to cater to the same type of audience but Good Wife has now had a several week head start to establish itself and has a core audience that won’t abandon it for Parenthood. Parenthood is wasting its Biggest Loser lead-in because people are watching The Good Wife instead.

I would say NBC should move Parenthood to another timeslot but given the sad state it’s in, where could they move it?

IMO it was a bad idea to put Parenthood up against The Good Wife. Not only do they seem to cater to the same type of audience but Good Wife has now had a several week head start to establish itself and has a core audience that won’t abandon it for Parenthood. Parenthood is wasting its Biggest Loser lead-in because people are watching The Good Wife instead.

I would say NBC should move Parenthood to another timeslot but given the sad state it’s in, where could they move it?

Yeah Glee is set to explode out of Idol when new episodes kick in. I remain interested in what Fox plans to do with Glee next season though.

Parenthood dropped a lot more than I would have predicted and Biggest Loser is getting hammered right now. Doesn’t it usually hold up better than this against Idol? I wonder how much worse this damage is going to get when new episodes of Glee arrive. Of course relative to the rest of the 10PM line-up for the night Parenthood doesn’t look that bad. The Good Wife is a couple of tenths stronger and the forgotten is just awful. On that note it can’t be good that with more than double the total viewers The Good Wife is only a few tenths ahead of Parenthood in the demo…

Yeah Glee is set to explode out of Idol when new episodes kick in. I remain interested in what Fox plans to do with Glee next season though.

Parenthood dropped a lot more than I would have predicted and Biggest Loser is getting hammered right now. Doesn’t it usually hold up better than this against Idol? I wonder how much worse this damage is going to get when new episodes of Glee arrive. Of course relative to the rest of the 10PM line-up for the night Parenthood doesn’t look that bad. The Good Wife is a couple of tenths stronger and the forgotten is just awful. On that note it can’t be good that with more than double the total viewers The Good Wife is only a few tenths ahead of Parenthood in the demo…

IMO it was a bad idea to put Parenthood up against The Good Wife. Not only do they seem to cater to the same type of audience but Good Wife has now had a several week head start to establish itself and has a core audience that won’t abandon it for Parenthood. Parenthood is wasting its Biggest Loser lead-in because people are watching The Good Wife instead.

I would say NBC should move Parenthood to another timeslot but given the sad state it’s in, where could they move it?

Yeah Glee is set to explode out of Idol when new episodes kick in. I remain interested in what Fox plans to do with Glee next season though.

Parenthood dropped a lot more than I would have predicted and Biggest Loser is getting hammered right now. Doesn’t it usually hold up better than this against Idol? I wonder how much worse this damage is going to get when new episodes of Glee arrive. Of course relative to the rest of the 10PM line-up for the night Parenthood doesn’t look that bad. The Good Wife is a couple of tenths stronger and the forgotten is just awful. On that note it can’t be good that with more than double the total viewers The Good Wife is only a few tenths ahead of Parenthood in the demo…

- Lost has never been a good lead-in. ABC has tried many times. They’ll try one last time with V soon.

- I’m gonna try not to get too attached to Parenthood until I see how things shake up in the next few weeks, but I really enjoyed the pilot. But competing with V instead of the Forgotten certainly won’t help. Unless word of mouth starts to build, I’m not sure what WILL help.

- Lost has never been a good lead-in. ABC has tried many times. They’ll try one last time with V soon.

- I’m gonna try not to get too attached to Parenthood until I see how things shake up in the next few weeks, but I really enjoyed the pilot. But competing with V instead of the Forgotten certainly won’t help. Unless word of mouth starts to build, I’m not sure what WILL help.

- Lost has never been a good lead-in. ABC has tried many times. They’ll try one last time with V soon.

- I’m gonna try not to get too attached to Parenthood until I see how things shake up in the next few weeks, but I really enjoyed the pilot. But competing with V instead of the Forgotten certainly won’t help. Unless word of mouth starts to build, I’m not sure what WILL help.

90210 will bounce back in the coming weeks. Melrose Place wasnt that great last night. Hope it gets better.

Good for Lost. Bye bye the Forgotten.

Biggest Loser isnt doing that well. usually at 9 ratings go up a lot without Idol but it didnt. Parenthood will keep dropping until it averages a 1.5.

I hate American Idol.

90210 will bounce back in the coming weeks. Melrose Place wasnt that great last night. Hope it gets better.

Good for Lost. Bye bye the Forgotten.

Biggest Loser isnt doing that well. usually at 9 ratings go up a lot without Idol but it didnt. Parenthood will keep dropping until it averages a 1.5.

I hate American Idol.

90210 will bounce back in the coming weeks. Melrose Place wasnt that great last night. Hope it gets better.

Good for Lost. Bye bye the Forgotten.

Biggest Loser isnt doing that well. usually at 9 ratings go up a lot without Idol but it didnt. Parenthood will keep dropping until it averages a 1.5.

I hate American Idol.

The problem with “The Parenthood” especially for the second episode was that it was boring and all over the place! I mean, the show feels like a mess. It was only towards the end of the second episode where things started to get better. You can’t do these kinds of things when you are just starting out as a show. Viewers get irritated!

The problem with “The Parenthood” especially for the second episode was that it was boring and all over the place! I mean, the show feels like a mess. It was only towards the end of the second episode where things started to get better. You can’t do these kinds of things when you are just starting out as a show. Viewers get irritated!

OUCH! With those numbers how can they justify renewing 90210?! It didnt even have its W18-34 to fall back on! We knew Melrose was done so no surprise there! I say cancel 90210, Melrose and LUX and pick up NOMADS, NIKITA, BETWIXT and WYOMING PROJECT! Oh and renew OTH, its rediculous to even be considering passing it over for a show that languishes at a A18-49 less than 1.0 and cant even break 2 million viewers on a weekly basis! Come on CW sort it out! If a show is shit then its shit, stop trying to make excuses!

OUCH! With those numbers how can they justify renewing 90210?! It didnt even have its W18-34 to fall back on! We knew Melrose was done so no surprise there! I say cancel 90210, Melrose and LUX and pick up NOMADS, NIKITA, BETWIXT and WYOMING PROJECT! Oh and renew OTH, its rediculous to even be considering passing it over for a show that languishes at a A18-49 less than 1.0 and cant even break 2 million viewers on a weekly basis! Come on CW sort it out! If a show is shit then its shit, stop trying to make excuses!

Ouch for Parenthood. I did expect it to slip, but I didn’t think it would go lower than 2.9. A 2.65 (probably 2.7 in the finals) makes the show’s average 2.9 for now which is still good for NBC’s standards. But I don’t get that network – it’s like they’re cursed! Nothing, literally nothing has been a success on NBC this year. They even dug their grave deeper with the Olympics.

Even though I’m planning on watching The Good Wife somewhere down the line and I know it’s a good show, I have to agree with Acey – it beating Parenthood is pretty embarrassing!

Nice to see Glee repeat that well; I like the show but I’m not like one of those obsessed fans that got really annoying really fast!

Goodbye, Melrose Place. If The CW were a normal network, they would do what ABC did with Eastwick or Hank – pull it off the air and burn it off in the summer. But since they’re… well, them, MP will air til May, but then it’s done!

Ouch for Parenthood. I did expect it to slip, but I didn’t think it would go lower than 2.9. A 2.65 (probably 2.7 in the finals) makes the show’s average 2.9 for now which is still good for NBC’s standards. But I don’t get that network – it’s like they’re cursed! Nothing, literally nothing has been a success on NBC this year. They even dug their grave deeper with the Olympics.

Even though I’m planning on watching The Good Wife somewhere down the line and I know it’s a good show, I have to agree with Acey – it beating Parenthood is pretty embarrassing!

Nice to see Glee repeat that well; I like the show but I’m not like one of those obsessed fans that got really annoying really fast!

Goodbye, Melrose Place. If The CW were a normal network, they would do what ABC did with Eastwick or Hank – pull it off the air and burn it off in the summer. But since they’re… well, them, MP will air til May, but then it’s done!

The problem with “The Parenthood” especially for the second episode was that it was boring and all over the place! I mean, the show feels like a mess. It was only towards the end of the second episode where things started to get better. You can’t do these kinds of things when you are just starting out as a show. Viewers get irritated!

OUCH! With those numbers how can they justify renewing 90210?! It didnt even have its W18-34 to fall back on! We knew Melrose was done so no surprise there! I say cancel 90210, Melrose and LUX and pick up NOMADS, NIKITA, BETWIXT and WYOMING PROJECT! Oh and renew OTH, its rediculous to even be considering passing it over for a show that languishes at a A18-49 less than 1.0 and cant even break 2 million viewers on a weekly basis! Come on CW sort it out! If a show is shit then its shit, stop trying to make excuses!

Ouch for Parenthood. I did expect it to slip, but I didn’t think it would go lower than 2.9. A 2.65 (probably 2.7 in the finals) makes the show’s average 2.9 for now which is still good for NBC’s standards. But I don’t get that network – it’s like they’re cursed! Nothing, literally nothing has been a success on NBC this year. They even dug their grave deeper with the Olympics.

Even though I’m planning on watching The Good Wife somewhere down the line and I know it’s a good show, I have to agree with Acey – it beating Parenthood is pretty embarrassing!

Nice to see Glee repeat that well; I like the show but I’m not like one of those obsessed fans that got really annoying really fast!

Goodbye, Melrose Place. If The CW were a normal network, they would do what ABC did with Eastwick or Hank – pull it off the air and burn it off in the summer. But since they’re… well, them, MP will air til May, but then it’s done!

Post now substantially updated with all the standard information, including more demo detail for CW shows. Only minor updates to follow, if any. ^

Post now substantially updated with all the standard information, including more demo detail for CW shows. Only minor updates to follow, if any. ^

Post now substantially updated with all the standard information, including more demo detail for CW shows. Only minor updates to follow, if any. ^

Ah yes – goodbye, The Forgotten! We hardly knew ye!

Ah yes – goodbye, The Forgotten! We hardly knew ye!

Ah yes – goodbye, The Forgotten! We hardly knew ye!

Parenthood with a 2.6 it’s stronger than chuck, and 16% down it’s not that much. We’ll se the following weeks if it becomes stable nbc surely renews it. Trauma Mercy L&0 at 10 Heroes are all lower.

Parenthood with a 2.6 it’s stronger than chuck, and 16% down it’s not that much. We’ll se the following weeks if it becomes stable nbc surely renews it. Trauma Mercy L&0 at 10 Heroes are all lower.

Chuck rating in his 3 episode of season 1
7.2[20]
(2.7/7

There is a lot of difference XD XD

Chuck rating in his 3 episode of season 1
7.2[20]
(2.7/7

There is a lot of difference XD XD

So close NCIS, so close! It’s so close to beating American Idol in viewers.

Poor ABC. Even with Lost, they’re still in last.

So close NCIS, so close! It’s so close to beating American Idol in viewers.

Poor ABC. Even with Lost, they’re still in last.

Chuck rating in his 3 episode of season 1
7.2[20]
(2.7/7

There is a lot of difference XD XD

So close NCIS, so close! It’s so close to beating American Idol in viewers.

Poor ABC. Even with Lost, they’re still in last.

I can’t be the only Glee fan that was so desperate for new episodes that I rewatched the repeat. And I have the DVDs! Hopefully there was some new AI audience as well.

Can’t say I’m surprised about Parenthood. Tried the pilot and found it bland, cliche and boring even with Peter Krause and Lauren Graham. Good character writing and unique plotlines would be nice.

Oops. I forgot Parenthood was on last night.

Oops. I forgot Parenthood was on last night.

I can’t be the only Glee fan that was so desperate for new episodes that I rewatched the repeat. And I have the DVDs! Hopefully there was some new AI audience as well.

Can’t say I’m surprised about Parenthood. Tried the pilot and found it bland, cliche and boring even with Peter Krause and Lauren Graham. Good character writing and unique plotlines would be nice.

Oops. I forgot Parenthood was on last night.

@Robert: “Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7″

It is worth pointing out that those numbers are probably non-representative. In W18-34, the averages for new episodes this year have been:
90210: 2.26
MP: 1.39
LUX: 1.7

So you could view it as “MP is certainly dead, and LUX’s W18-34 this week was tied with that dead show. That doesn’t bode well”. Or you could view it as “90210 vs. freaking AI nearly gets the same ratings as LUX vs. not AI”.

In any case, LUX is not particularly strong in any of the demos CW cares about, and its survival will only be the result of pilot season disaster.

@Robert: “Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7″

It is worth pointing out that those numbers are probably non-representative. In W18-34, the averages for new episodes this year have been:
90210: 2.26
MP: 1.39
LUX: 1.7

So you could view it as “MP is certainly dead, and LUX’s W18-34 this week was tied with that dead show. That doesn’t bode well”. Or you could view it as “90210 vs. freaking AI nearly gets the same ratings as LUX vs. not AI”.

In any case, LUX is not particularly strong in any of the demos CW cares about, and its survival will only be the result of pilot season disaster.

@Robert: “Even w/ women 18-34 where LUX=1.4, 90120 = 1.3 and MP = 0.7″

It is worth pointing out that those numbers are probably non-representative. In W18-34, the averages for new episodes this year have been:
90210: 2.26
MP: 1.39
LUX: 1.7

So you could view it as “MP is certainly dead, and LUX’s W18-34 this week was tied with that dead show. That doesn’t bode well”. Or you could view it as “90210 vs. freaking AI nearly gets the same ratings as LUX vs. not AI”.

In any case, LUX is not particularly strong in any of the demos CW cares about, and its survival will only be the result of pilot season disaster.

Wow, Parenthood lost .3 from 10 to 10:30. If the episode was a great as everyone states, then that’s a really bad sign. However, the other shows lost their audience during that time as well. Is that a typical drop?

Wow, Parenthood lost .3 from 10 to 10:30. If the episode was a great as everyone states, then that’s a really bad sign. However, the other shows lost their audience during that time as well. Is that a typical drop?

Wow, Parenthood lost .3 from 10 to 10:30. If the episode was a great as everyone states, then that’s a really bad sign. However, the other shows lost their audience during that time as well. Is that a typical drop?

Melrose Place was AMAZING last night; it just keeps getting better and better. Ashlee Simpson is gone and Nick Zano joins the show next week. Plus, there’s a MP 1.0 reunion happening on March 30th with Amanda, Michael, Jane, and Jo.

Listen up, FOX: If the CW is stupid enough to let this show go, which has so much potential, here’s your chance to bring it back.

Melrose Place and Glee back-to-back on Fox — now, that’s entertainment!

Melrose Place was AMAZING last night; it just keeps getting better and better. Ashlee Simpson is gone and Nick Zano joins the show next week. Plus, there’s a MP 1.0 reunion happening on March 30th with Amanda, Michael, Jane, and Jo.

Listen up, FOX: If the CW is stupid enough to let this show go, which has so much potential, here’s your chance to bring it back.

Melrose Place and Glee back-to-back on Fox — now, that’s entertainment!

Melrose Place was AMAZING last night; it just keeps getting better and better. Ashlee Simpson is gone and Nick Zano joins the show next week. Plus, there’s a MP 1.0 reunion happening on March 30th with Amanda, Michael, Jane, and Jo.

Listen up, FOX: If the CW is stupid enough to let this show go, which has so much potential, here’s your chance to bring it back.

Melrose Place and Glee back-to-back on Fox — now, that’s entertainment!

Wow I forgot to watch Parenthood. I liked (not loved) the pilot. I don’t watch anything on TV on Tuesdays so I usually watch a DVD from Netflix. I meant to watch after the movie was done but I completely forgot since I normally did not watch TV at 10pm on Tuesday. I guess Parenthood waited too long into the TV season to premiere. I already had my routine down for the week.

NCIS sucks!! why do people watch it?

NCIS sucks!! why do people watch it?

Wow I forgot to watch Parenthood. I liked (not loved) the pilot. I don’t watch anything on TV on Tuesdays so I usually watch a DVD from Netflix. I meant to watch after the movie was done but I completely forgot since I normally did not watch TV at 10pm on Tuesday. I guess Parenthood waited too long into the TV season to premiere. I already had my routine down for the week.

NCIS sucks!! why do people watch it?

David4, yes.

David4, yes.

I gotta say, your “nosebleed” still from Parenthood is so funny — and so appropriate. I bet that’s how they’re feeling right about now in the Black Tower at Universal. $40 million bucks in promotion down the toilet. All those billboards along Sunset, the relentless promos during the Olympics…

And “fra” — good shows don’t drop at the half-hour. Good shows grow in the hour.

Expect another big drop next week. The show’s probably in the wrong time slot. But at this point NBC is committed to a 10 pm slot.

I gotta say, your “nosebleed” still from Parenthood is so funny — and so appropriate. I bet that’s how they’re feeling right about now in the Black Tower at Universal. $40 million bucks in promotion down the toilet. All those billboards along Sunset, the relentless promos during the Olympics…

And “fra” — good shows don’t drop at the half-hour. Good shows grow in the hour.

Expect another big drop next week. The show’s probably in the wrong time slot. But at this point NBC is committed to a 10 pm slot.

Old people watch NCIS and there are alot of them.

Old people watch NCIS and there are alot of them.

I gotta say, your “nosebleed” still from Parenthood is so funny — and so appropriate. I bet that’s how they’re feeling right about now in the Black Tower at Universal. $40 million bucks in promotion down the toilet. All those billboards along Sunset, the relentless promos during the Olympics…

And “fra” — good shows don’t drop at the half-hour. Good shows grow in the hour.

Expect another big drop next week. The show’s probably in the wrong time slot. But at this point NBC is committed to a 10 pm slot.

Old people watch NCIS and there are alot of them.

I don’t watch the broadcast networks on Tuesday, given the current lineup. My only TV “appointment” for Tuesday evening is with Southland.

Unfortunately, Southland was mighty grim last night. And this is way off point to mention in the context of replies to this post, but this episode featured something that you almost never see on a scripted TV program — use of mosaic image censoring to obscure a couple of shots, one of the face of a teen/preteen female murder victim, and another of parts of her body. Curious to know how that all came about…

I don’t watch the broadcast networks on Tuesday, given the current lineup. My only TV “appointment” for Tuesday evening is with Southland.

Unfortunately, Southland was mighty grim last night. And this is way off point to mention in the context of replies to this post, but this episode featured something that you almost never see on a scripted TV program — use of mosaic image censoring to obscure a couple of shots, one of the face of a teen/preteen female murder victim, and another of parts of her body. Curious to know how that all came about…

I don’t watch the broadcast networks on Tuesday, given the current lineup. My only TV “appointment” for Tuesday evening is with Southland.

Unfortunately, Southland was mighty grim last night. And this is way off point to mention in the context of replies to this post, but this episode featured something that you almost never see on a scripted TV program — use of mosaic image censoring to obscure a couple of shots, one of the face of a teen/preteen female murder victim, and another of parts of her body. Curious to know how that all came about…

I forgot that The Forgotten was even on, its a forgettable show. I was also going to say something else about it but I forgot what it was. Apparently due to bad ratings alot of other people forgot too.

I forgot that The Forgotten was even on, its a forgettable show. I was also going to say something else about it but I forgot what it was. Apparently due to bad ratings alot of other people forgot too.

Like castle it has a good lead in and it’s a good show it takes time to find his audience, so i don’t think it will drop like glee i will become stronger!! Every show drop a bit in the half hours B&s Desperate The good wife… so it’s not that disaster

Like castle it has a good lead in and it’s a good show it takes time to find his audience, so i don’t think it will drop like glee i will become stronger!! Every show drop a bit in the half hours B&s Desperate The good wife… so it’s not that disaster

I forgot that The Forgotten was even on, its a forgettable show. I was also going to say something else about it but I forgot what it was. Apparently due to bad ratings alot of other people forgot too.

Like castle it has a good lead in and it’s a good show it takes time to find his audience, so i don’t think it will drop like glee i will become stronger!! Every show drop a bit in the half hours B&s Desperate The good wife… so it’s not that disaster

also at 8 TBL obtains a 2.6 and 7 milions … it is a disaster too XD

also at 8 TBL obtains a 2.6 and 7 milions … it is a disaster too XD

also at 8 TBL obtains a 2.6 and 7 milions … it is a disaster too XD

how many times has it been said One Tree Hills fate has to do with contract issues not ratings. it has ratings for renewal plus it wasnt on a 3 month hiatus.

Glee had the worst break yet people are complaining about Flash Forward, V, 90210 and Melrose Place. Glee returns in April after a almost 5 month break. now thats ridiculous. it will pull the same numbers as it did with repeats.

how many times has it been said One Tree Hills fate has to do with contract issues not ratings. it has ratings for renewal plus it wasnt on a 3 month hiatus.

Glee had the worst break yet people are complaining about Flash Forward, V, 90210 and Melrose Place. Glee returns in April after a almost 5 month break. now thats ridiculous. it will pull the same numbers as it did with repeats.

how many times has it been said One Tree Hills fate has to do with contract issues not ratings. it has ratings for renewal plus it wasnt on a 3 month hiatus.

Glee had the worst break yet people are complaining about Flash Forward, V, 90210 and Melrose Place. Glee returns in April after a almost 5 month break. now thats ridiculous. it will pull the same numbers as it did with repeats.

I still dont understand why Parenthood isnt getting the viewers, mebe becasue its on too late. Its a pretty good show!!!

I still dont understand why Parenthood isnt getting the viewers, mebe becasue its on too late. Its a pretty good show!!!

I still dont understand why Parenthood isnt getting the viewers, mebe becasue its on too late. Its a pretty good show!!!

I still dont understand why Parenthood isnt getting the viewers, mebe becasue its on too late. Its a pretty good show!!!

Because it’s on NBC.

I still dont understand why Parenthood isnt getting the viewers, mebe becasue its on too late. Its a pretty good show!!!

Because it’s on NBC.

I still dont understand why Parenthood isnt getting the viewers, mebe becasue its on too late. Its a pretty good show!!!

Because it’s on NBC.

Im shocked at how low MP and 90210 are
Saying that a lot of people on the MP forums had no clue a new episode was in this week, i think they have been on break so long that people just forgot when they were coming back
Next week we will have to see what happens

Im shocked at how low MP and 90210 are
Saying that a lot of people on the MP forums had no clue a new episode was in this week, i think they have been on break so long that people just forgot when they were coming back
Next week we will have to see what happens

Im shocked at how low MP and 90210 are
Saying that a lot of people on the MP forums had no clue a new episode was in this week, i think they have been on break so long that people just forgot when they were coming back
Next week we will have to see what happens

Interesting night, I’ve watched both episodes of parenthood and liked them, but it is not great yet. The cast is great but something is missing plot wise to make it truly engaging.

Also, people keep saying LOST has never been a good lead-in. But didn’t back in its first season it propelled Alias to it best season ever in its fourth year? I think ABC just never found the right show to match it with, I’m not sure V will be it either, but I think there is a chance they will work well together.

Interesting night, I’ve watched both episodes of parenthood and liked them, but it is not great yet. The cast is great but something is missing plot wise to make it truly engaging.

Also, people keep saying LOST has never been a good lead-in. But didn’t back in its first season it propelled Alias to it best season ever in its fourth year? I think ABC just never found the right show to match it with, I’m not sure V will be it either, but I think there is a chance they will work well together.

Interesting night, I’ve watched both episodes of parenthood and liked them, but it is not great yet. The cast is great but something is missing plot wise to make it truly engaging.

Also, people keep saying LOST has never been a good lead-in. But didn’t back in its first season it propelled Alias to it best season ever in its fourth year? I think ABC just never found the right show to match it with, I’m not sure V will be it either, but I think there is a chance they will work well together.

For 10PM, a 2.6 in the demo is actually decent. If Castle is fine with a 2.4, Parenthood should be fine as well, especially given NBC’s ratings troubles.

Now, if it falls to a 2.0/2.1, okay, it’s in a lot of trouble. Mid 2.0′s will be fine for a Fall renewal.

For 10PM, a 2.6 in the demo is actually decent. If Castle is fine with a 2.4, Parenthood should be fine as well, especially given NBC’s ratings troubles.

Now, if it falls to a 2.0/2.1, okay, it’s in a lot of trouble. Mid 2.0′s will be fine for a Fall renewal.

For 10PM, a 2.6 in the demo is actually decent. If Castle is fine with a 2.4, Parenthood should be fine as well, especially given NBC’s ratings troubles.

Now, if it falls to a 2.0/2.1, okay, it’s in a lot of trouble. Mid 2.0′s will be fine for a Fall renewal.

“Parenthood” is only on Episode 2 which is too early for anyone to be doom and gloom. If the CW is smart, they would renew LUX and let OTH go.

“Parenthood” is only on Episode 2 which is too early for anyone to be doom and gloom. If the CW is smart, they would renew LUX and let OTH go.

“Parenthood” is only on Episode 2 which is too early for anyone to be doom and gloom. If the CW is smart, they would renew LUX and let OTH go.

I’m actually going to say those are good numbers for Parenthood given its premiere. Only slipping 16% is good for any post-premiere episode, but even more so when the pilot was just good not great. I wouldn’t be surprised if that number rises next week. The second episode of Parenthood was substantially better than the first, and I would think some word of mouth, which could have hurt it after the first week, will help bring some who tried and bailed back.

Also, yesterday’s episode was good enough for Emmy contention and its been a long time since NBC had a drama in the mix there (basically since West Wing), so as long as the slide stops and the critical praise continues, I’m thinking its prospects for renewal are quite good.

I’m actually going to say those are good numbers for Parenthood given its premiere. Only slipping 16% is good for any post-premiere episode, but even more so when the pilot was just good not great. I wouldn’t be surprised if that number rises next week. The second episode of Parenthood was substantially better than the first, and I would think some word of mouth, which could have hurt it after the first week, will help bring some who tried and bailed back.

Also, yesterday’s episode was good enough for Emmy contention and its been a long time since NBC had a drama in the mix there (basically since West Wing), so as long as the slide stops and the critical praise continues, I’m thinking its prospects for renewal are quite good.

Horrible time slot for Parenthood. What is the audience they are going after? BTW if they got rid of the bitchy sister who works all the time I’d probably stay tuned more. I switch every time she comes on.

Horrible time slot for Parenthood. What is the audience they are going after? BTW if they got rid of the bitchy sister who works all the time I’d probably stay tuned more. I switch every time she comes on.

On the other hand the 2.6 for Parenthood is better than most NBC shows including Chuck. We’ll see how it holds up next week.

On the other hand the 2.6 for Parenthood is better than most NBC shows including Chuck. We’ll see how it holds up next week.

Glee rerun ties Loser and beats Parenthood/Good Wife. Hmm.

Glee rerun ties Loser and beats Parenthood/Good Wife. Hmm.

Horrible time slot for Parenthood. What is the audience they are going after? BTW if they got rid of the bitchy sister who works all the time I’d probably stay tuned more. I switch every time she comes on.

On the other hand the 2.6 for Parenthood is better than most NBC shows including Chuck. We’ll see how it holds up next week.

Glee rerun ties Loser and beats Parenthood/Good Wife. Hmm.

Look at it this way. Lux is consistent in getting marginal ratings (by the cw standards any way), 90210 has typically done better, but it also historically takes a hit when Idol is on (it did that last year as well) though it significantly lower 1.1 18-49, 1.4 18-34 and a 1.7 in w 18-34.

But for all Reaper fans, who still haven’g got the fact that it actually performed worse.

This is what Reaper did same week .9 in adults (.1 higher) in adults 18-49, .8 in adults (-.2) 18-34, .6 in women (-.7) in women 18-34.

And thats with 90210 doing significantly worse then it averaged in the March-May originals.

Look at it this way. Lux is consistent in getting marginal ratings (by the cw standards any way), 90210 has typically done better, but it also historically takes a hit when Idol is on (it did that last year as well) though it significantly lower 1.1 18-49, 1.4 18-34 and a 1.7 in w 18-34.

But for all Reaper fans, who still haven’g got the fact that it actually performed worse.

This is what Reaper did same week .9 in adults (.1 higher) in adults 18-49, .8 in adults (-.2) 18-34, .6 in women (-.7) in women 18-34.

And thats with 90210 doing significantly worse then it averaged in the March-May originals.

Look at it this way. Lux is consistent in getting marginal ratings (by the cw standards any way), 90210 has typically done better, but it also historically takes a hit when Idol is on (it did that last year as well) though it significantly lower 1.1 18-49, 1.4 18-34 and a 1.7 in w 18-34.

But for all Reaper fans, who still haven’g got the fact that it actually performed worse.

This is what Reaper did same week .9 in adults (.1 higher) in adults 18-49, .8 in adults (-.2) 18-34, .6 in women (-.7) in women 18-34.

And thats with 90210 doing significantly worse then it averaged in the March-May originals.

Interesting to see the Parenthood fans try to spin the numbers. A 2.6 in your second episode with basically no competition AND a solid lead in? And a substantial exodous at 10:30?

Nope, sorry…there is not positive way to spin that.

Interesting to see the Parenthood fans try to spin the numbers. A 2.6 in your second episode with basically no competition AND a solid lead in? And a substantial exodous at 10:30?

Nope, sorry…there is not positive way to spin that.

Interesting to see the Parenthood fans try to spin the numbers. A 2.6 in your second episode with basically no competition AND a solid lead in? And a substantial exodous at 10:30?

Nope, sorry…there is not positive way to spin that.

I dont see Melrose doing much better facing Idol next week.

I dont see Melrose doing much better facing Idol next week.

I dont see Melrose doing much better facing Idol next week.

Glee did really well for a repeat! Happy To See The Good Wife Continuing to rack up Bid Numbers

American Idol, while still the #1 show does seem to have slipped in the ratings. it was always a rarity for AI to fall below 25 million viewers and now it gets below that on a regular basis.

Glee did really well for a repeat! Happy To See The Good Wife Continuing to rack up Bid Numbers

American Idol, while still the #1 show does seem to have slipped in the ratings. it was always a rarity for AI to fall below 25 million viewers and now it gets below that on a regular basis.

Glee did really well for a repeat! Happy To See The Good Wife Continuing to rack up Bid Numbers

American Idol, while still the #1 show does seem to have slipped in the ratings. it was always a rarity for AI to fall below 25 million viewers and now it gets below that on a regular basis.

@MC It’s what happens when people really love a show and want it too succeed. I like last night, hated the pilot, but even I recognize it’s no blockbuster. And it had weak competition. I thought last night the cast actually was reminiscent of the film barring the Lauren Graham character who just seems out of place and doesn’t have the appeal Steve Martin’s character did. Maybe the character is still being retooled who knows. But in the end I’m sure NBC is going to pick it up same as Chuck. They really have nothing else.

@MC It’s what happens when people really love a show and want it too succeed. I like last night, hated the pilot, but even I recognize it’s no blockbuster. And it had weak competition. I thought last night the cast actually was reminiscent of the film barring the Lauren Graham character who just seems out of place and doesn’t have the appeal Steve Martin’s character did. Maybe the character is still being retooled who knows. But in the end I’m sure NBC is going to pick it up same as Chuck. They really have nothing else.

@MC It’s what happens when people really love a show and want it too succeed. I like last night, hated the pilot, but even I recognize it’s no blockbuster. And it had weak competition. I thought last night the cast actually was reminiscent of the film barring the Lauren Graham character who just seems out of place and doesn’t have the appeal Steve Martin’s character did. Maybe the character is still being retooled who knows. But in the end I’m sure NBC is going to pick it up same as Chuck. They really have nothing else.

For all you Parenthood boosters — here’s what’s going on inside NBC. For the premiere, their internal forecasts predicted a 3.9. Reality: they got 3.1
Last night, they predicted a number with a 3 in front of it. Reality: 2.6 — WITH a significant drop at the half hour.
Mood right now at NBC: very gloomy, with zero confidence in Parenthood.

For all you Parenthood boosters — here’s what’s going on inside NBC. For the premiere, their internal forecasts predicted a 3.9. Reality: they got 3.1
Last night, they predicted a number with a 3 in front of it. Reality: 2.6 — WITH a significant drop at the half hour.
Mood right now at NBC: very gloomy, with zero confidence in Parenthood.

I wouldn’t say that OTH and LUX are battling each other for a renewal spot. CW could renew both, dump both or go with one and not the other. It will have more to do with how the new pilots turn out, the costs for OTH and if LUX can maintain and grow. Totally different issues that are not all entirely connected.

I wouldn’t say that OTH and LUX are battling each other for a renewal spot. CW could renew both, dump both or go with one and not the other. It will have more to do with how the new pilots turn out, the costs for OTH and if LUX can maintain and grow. Totally different issues that are not all entirely connected.

For all you Parenthood boosters — here’s what’s going on inside NBC. For the premiere, their internal forecasts predicted a 3.9. Reality: they got 3.1
Last night, they predicted a number with a 3 in front of it. Reality: 2.6 — WITH a significant drop at the half hour.
Mood right now at NBC: very gloomy, with zero confidence in Parenthood.

I wouldn’t say that OTH and LUX are battling each other for a renewal spot. CW could renew both, dump both or go with one and not the other. It will have more to do with how the new pilots turn out, the costs for OTH and if LUX can maintain and grow. Totally different issues that are not all entirely connected.

Can’t understand why 90210 got an early renewal. It really should have been OTH that was picked up already and LUX and 90210 should be battling it out for the last spot. Not that I’m a fan of any of these but OTH clearly has a decent audience after all this time.

As far as quality TV goes, glad to see The Good Wife won its time. Hands down the best written and acted show on TV. Can’t wait to see next weeks episode – looks so good…

Can’t understand why 90210 got an early renewal. It really should have been OTH that was picked up already and LUX and 90210 should be battling it out for the last spot. Not that I’m a fan of any of these but OTH clearly has a decent audience after all this time.

As far as quality TV goes, glad to see The Good Wife won its time. Hands down the best written and acted show on TV. Can’t wait to see next weeks episode – looks so good…

Can’t understand why 90210 got an early renewal. It really should have been OTH that was picked up already and LUX and 90210 should be battling it out for the last spot. Not that I’m a fan of any of these but OTH clearly has a decent audience after all this time.

As far as quality TV goes, glad to see The Good Wife won its time. Hands down the best written and acted show on TV. Can’t wait to see next weeks episode – looks so good…

@Bryan Very interesting. I knew that despite the “ok” 3.1 premiere that with the amount of promotion NBC gave the show they expected much much more. As it’s been retooled, it doesn’t belong at 10:00 but I won’t pretend that’s the reason for the low ratings. It’s not scifi, cutting edge, a thriller, a medical show or crime drama where you can pretty much identify the demo their targeting. Aside from maybe slightly older women(30 to 49) I have no idea who their targeting.

@Bryan Very interesting. I knew that despite the “ok” 3.1 premiere that with the amount of promotion NBC gave the show they expected much much more. As it’s been retooled, it doesn’t belong at 10:00 but I won’t pretend that’s the reason for the low ratings. It’s not scifi, cutting edge, a thriller, a medical show or crime drama where you can pretty much identify the demo their targeting. Aside from maybe slightly older women(30 to 49) I have no idea who their targeting.

@Bryan Very interesting. I knew that despite the “ok” 3.1 premiere that with the amount of promotion NBC gave the show they expected much much more. As it’s been retooled, it doesn’t belong at 10:00 but I won’t pretend that’s the reason for the low ratings. It’s not scifi, cutting edge, a thriller, a medical show or crime drama where you can pretty much identify the demo their targeting. Aside from maybe slightly older women(30 to 49) I have no idea who their targeting.

Bryan Bell is telling the truth.

Bryan Bell is telling the truth.

Bryan Bell is telling the truth.

Idol’s ratings although good are definitely going down. It was so interesting how the song choices are supposed to be billboard 10 and half of the contestants still chose shongs from the 60′s and 70′s i really wish there were some more contemporary songs and most of them were just boring… whats going on.. check out my review from last nights show:

http://wp.me/pKeou-aD

Idol’s ratings although good are definitely going down. It was so interesting how the song choices are supposed to be billboard 10 and half of the contestants still chose shongs from the 60′s and 70′s i really wish there were some more contemporary songs and most of them were just boring… whats going on.. check out my review from last nights show:

http://wp.me/pKeou-aD

Idol’s ratings although good are definitely going down. It was so interesting how the song choices are supposed to be billboard 10 and half of the contestants still chose shongs from the 60′s and 70′s i really wish there were some more contemporary songs and most of them were just boring… whats going on.. check out my review from last nights show:

http://wp.me/pKeou-aD

This probably inappropriate, but what the heck…perhaps since Parenthood is at 10, Lauren Graham could pull a Bad Santa scene. That might just help the ratings.

This probably inappropriate, but what the heck…perhaps since Parenthood is at 10, Lauren Graham could pull a Bad Santa scene. That might just help the ratings.

This probably inappropriate, but what the heck…perhaps since Parenthood is at 10, Lauren Graham could pull a Bad Santa scene. That might just help the ratings.

I have a great Series finale for MP…all of tenants are out for the evening due to renavations and it burns down by accident with the city not deciding who’s at fault…so Melrose Place is never re built…and the cast moves to a new zipcode…maybe in the 90210 area?
HA!

I have a great Series finale for MP…all of tenants are out for the evening due to renavations and it burns down by accident with the city not deciding who’s at fault…so Melrose Place is never re built…and the cast moves to a new zipcode…maybe in the 90210 area?
HA!

I have a great Series finale for MP…all of tenants are out for the evening due to renavations and it burns down by accident with the city not deciding who’s at fault…so Melrose Place is never re built…and the cast moves to a new zipcode…maybe in the 90210 area?
HA!

The head of the CW needs a slap

MP could have had a chance if they had moved it to another night, it was always gonna slaughted agasint the competition. 90210 is the same, it’s ratings are never that bad.

Its odd how all 3 shows which come back from a stupid 3 month break died a death on their first week back (90210, MP and GG)

The CW need to get someone in charge who knows what they are doing

The head of the CW needs a slap

MP could have had a chance if they had moved it to another night, it was always gonna slaughted agasint the competition. 90210 is the same, it’s ratings are never that bad.

Its odd how all 3 shows which come back from a stupid 3 month break died a death on their first week back (90210, MP and GG)

The CW need to get someone in charge who knows what they are doing

The head of the CW needs a slap

MP could have had a chance if they had moved it to another night, it was always gonna slaughted agasint the competition. 90210 is the same, it’s ratings are never that bad.

Its odd how all 3 shows which come back from a stupid 3 month break died a death on their first week back (90210, MP and GG)

The CW need to get someone in charge who knows what they are doing

I am laughing my butt off at how consistently and miserably NBC continues to fail. They have the reverse Midas Touch, and until they ditch upper and middle management and revamp the entire development program and lineup, it will not change.

Face it, people. Parenthood, no matter how you try to spin it, make excuses, point out that it’s doing “well for NBC” or wrap it in happy thoughts, is a mediocre performer at best, a total ratings failure at worst.

For all the time and money NBC spent pushing this show, and with the talent involved above and below the line, this show should be pulling in at least a 4-5 or better. Saying it’s “a good rating for NBC” is like being called the cleanest pig in the mudhole or the largest state in New England. Maybe NBC should change their name to The CW2, since they seem to perform about as well on any given night.

I am laughing my butt off at how consistently and miserably NBC continues to fail. They have the reverse Midas Touch, and until they ditch upper and middle management and revamp the entire development program and lineup, it will not change.

Face it, people. Parenthood, no matter how you try to spin it, make excuses, point out that it’s doing “well for NBC” or wrap it in happy thoughts, is a mediocre performer at best, a total ratings failure at worst.

For all the time and money NBC spent pushing this show, and with the talent involved above and below the line, this show should be pulling in at least a 4-5 or better. Saying it’s “a good rating for NBC” is like being called the cleanest pig in the mudhole or the largest state in New England. Maybe NBC should change their name to The CW2, since they seem to perform about as well on any given night.

I am laughing my butt off at how consistently and miserably NBC continues to fail. They have the reverse Midas Touch, and until they ditch upper and middle management and revamp the entire development program and lineup, it will not change.

Face it, people. Parenthood, no matter how you try to spin it, make excuses, point out that it’s doing “well for NBC” or wrap it in happy thoughts, is a mediocre performer at best, a total ratings failure at worst.

For all the time and money NBC spent pushing this show, and with the talent involved above and below the line, this show should be pulling in at least a 4-5 or better. Saying it’s “a good rating for NBC” is like being called the cleanest pig in the mudhole or the largest state in New England. Maybe NBC should change their name to The CW2, since they seem to perform about as well on any given night.

Wow the CW ratings this week are beyond pathetic. If I am correct Gossip Girls, 90210 and Melrose Place all got series lows this week. I am curious to see how ATNM performs tonight.

I wonder if the CW can pull back series renewals because one of 90210 or Gossip Girls has to go

Wow the CW ratings this week are beyond pathetic. If I am correct Gossip Girls, 90210 and Melrose Place all got series lows this week. I am curious to see how ATNM performs tonight.

I wonder if the CW can pull back series renewals because one of 90210 or Gossip Girls has to go

I like Parenthood – but I watch it online the next day. The thing with Good Wife is that there is already as established continuing storyline there, so of course if someone has watched since the first episode in Sept. they would watch the new episode on Tuesday to see next chapter. But I watch Parenthood on NBC site – do online site viewers get counted in ratings?

I like Parenthood – but I watch it online the next day. The thing with Good Wife is that there is already as established continuing storyline there, so of course if someone has watched since the first episode in Sept. they would watch the new episode on Tuesday to see next chapter. But I watch Parenthood on NBC site – do online site viewers get counted in ratings?

I like Parenthood – but I watch it online the next day. The thing with Good Wife is that there is already as established continuing storyline there, so of course if someone has watched since the first episode in Sept. they would watch the new episode on Tuesday to see next chapter. But I watch Parenthood on NBC site – do online site viewers get counted in ratings?

Sparky

I would assume that one of the reasons (since both had demos that were extremely similar) is that 90210 is newer and thus typically (though not always) is cheaper to produce.

Sparky

I would assume that one of the reasons (since both had demos that were extremely similar) is that 90210 is newer and thus typically (though not always) is cheaper to produce.

Sparky

I would assume that one of the reasons (since both had demos that were extremely similar) is that 90210 is newer and thus typically (though not always) is cheaper to produce.

I think the CW shows are performing poorly because they lacked adequate promotion. Vampire Diaries, SN & SV were all in repeats this past week, as were earlier shows in the week. LUX was new last week and gave a promo of GG, but that was all I noticed. Things may bump back up next week. If not, then trouble’s certainly brewing for these programs, despite their early renewals. Can a network reverse a decision for a renewed program? Has it ever been done?

I think the CW shows are performing poorly because they lacked adequate promotion. Vampire Diaries, SN & SV were all in repeats this past week, as were earlier shows in the week. LUX was new last week and gave a promo of GG, but that was all I noticed. Things may bump back up next week. If not, then trouble’s certainly brewing for these programs, despite their early renewals. Can a network reverse a decision for a renewed program? Has it ever been done?

Parenthood is a show that should be on Sunday Night’s, not on a Tuesday Night. This has Sunday evening melodrama all over it and would be interesting for it to go head to head with Brother & Sisters.

Parenthood is a show that should be on Sunday Night’s, not on a Tuesday Night. This has Sunday evening melodrama all over it and would be interesting for it to go head to head with Brother & Sisters.

I think the CW shows are performing poorly because they lacked adequate promotion. Vampire Diaries, SN & SV were all in repeats this past week, as were earlier shows in the week. LUX was new last week and gave a promo of GG, but that was all I noticed. Things may bump back up next week. If not, then trouble’s certainly brewing for these programs, despite their early renewals. Can a network reverse a decision for a renewed program? Has it ever been done?

Parenthood is a show that should be on Sunday Night’s, not on a Tuesday Night. This has Sunday evening melodrama all over it and would be interesting for it to go head to head with Brother & Sisters.

FireDawn

Well they should have gotten seasons lows, with longer then normal breaks no one was expecting them to hit their averages. They either faced the Olympics (where almost all shows were down significantly, though their was a few exceptions) or hold them. Not alot of other options.

FireDawn

Well they should have gotten seasons lows, with longer then normal breaks no one was expecting them to hit their averages. They either faced the Olympics (where almost all shows were down significantly, though their was a few exceptions) or hold them. Not alot of other options.

FireDawn

Well they should have gotten seasons lows, with longer then normal breaks no one was expecting them to hit their averages. They either faced the Olympics (where almost all shows were down significantly, though their was a few exceptions) or hold them. Not alot of other options.

How the CW manages to even survive period still amazes me. They can’t be making much money.

How the CW manages to even survive period still amazes me. They can’t be making much money.

How the CW manages to even survive period still amazes me. They can’t be making much money.

I don’t think you could reasonably expect Parenthood to be getting close to a 5 in the demo. I do think NBC expected it to get over a 3 though and while last nights 2.6 isn’t the end, it is definitely not good. If it stays at or above a 2.6, I think it will come back, but it’s not the hit they were hoping for.

I don’t think you could reasonably expect Parenthood to be getting close to a 5 in the demo. I do think NBC expected it to get over a 3 though and while last nights 2.6 isn’t the end, it is definitely not good. If it stays at or above a 2.6, I think it will come back, but it’s not the hit they were hoping for.

I don’t think you could reasonably expect Parenthood to be getting close to a 5 in the demo. I do think NBC expected it to get over a 3 though and while last nights 2.6 isn’t the end, it is definitely not good. If it stays at or above a 2.6, I think it will come back, but it’s not the hit they were hoping for.

So is it good that a re run of Glee did that good in the ratings?

I can just imagine what is going to happen when new episodes start, what the ratings will be like any guesses?

So is it good that a re run of Glee did that good in the ratings?

I can just imagine what is going to happen when new episodes start, what the ratings will be like any guesses?

So is it good that a re run of Glee did that good in the ratings?

I can just imagine what is going to happen when new episodes start, what the ratings will be like any guesses?

Everybody stop bashing and saying ouch for Parenthood. The show got a good draw last night and lets not forget this is a NBC, one of their highest rated shows. We ALL know that shows never perform as good as their pilot episodes rating and we start to see the real draw with the 2nd and 3rd week. So if this is how is gonna be for Parenthood week after week, than its doing very well for an NBC show.

Everybody stop bashing and saying ouch for Parenthood. The show got a good draw last night and lets not forget this is a NBC, one of their highest rated shows. We ALL know that shows never perform as good as their pilot episodes rating and we start to see the real draw with the 2nd and 3rd week. So if this is how is gonna be for Parenthood week after week, than its doing very well for an NBC show.

Everybody stop bashing and saying ouch for Parenthood. The show got a good draw last night and lets not forget this is a NBC, one of their highest rated shows. We ALL know that shows never perform as good as their pilot episodes rating and we start to see the real draw with the 2nd and 3rd week. So if this is how is gonna be for Parenthood week after week, than its doing very well for an NBC show.

mswood

I wouldn’t have programmed either well into December(ie when College students have exams), but had them come back in Jan and show 4-5 weeks of episodes before the Olympic break.

The CW might also be better off not starting so early in September since it means they have to take longer breaks elsewhere. As a fan of Smallville I have to laugh Dawn programs Smallville not caring about stuff(ie Olympics) yet it still one of the networks highest performers on a crappy night.

mswood

I wouldn’t have programmed either well into December(ie when College students have exams), but had them come back in Jan and show 4-5 weeks of episodes before the Olympic break.

The CW might also be better off not starting so early in September since it means they have to take longer breaks elsewhere. As a fan of Smallville I have to laugh Dawn programs Smallville not caring about stuff(ie Olympics) yet it still one of the networks highest performers on a crappy night.

mswood

I wouldn’t have programmed either well into December(ie when College students have exams), but had them come back in Jan and show 4-5 weeks of episodes before the Olympic break.

The CW might also be better off not starting so early in September since it means they have to take longer breaks elsewhere. As a fan of Smallville I have to laugh Dawn programs Smallville not caring about stuff(ie Olympics) yet it still one of the networks highest performers on a crappy night.

That was my point, Holly. On another network, perhaps, it could pull a 4-5 and be considered a decent performer, but on NBC, a 3 is a near-hit and a guaranteed renewal? How far they have fallen…

That was my point, Holly. On another network, perhaps, it could pull a 4-5 and be considered a decent performer, but on NBC, a 3 is a near-hit and a guaranteed renewal? How far they have fallen…

That was my point, Holly. On another network, perhaps, it could pull a 4-5 and be considered a decent performer, but on NBC, a 3 is a near-hit and a guaranteed renewal? How far they have fallen…

Everybody dont forget to watch Human Target tonight at 8 on FOX!
As well as Modern Family and Cougar Town in the 9 hour on ABC!
Round out your night at 10 on CBS for an all-new episode of CSI:NY!

Everybody dont forget to watch Human Target tonight at 8 on FOX!
As well as Modern Family and Cougar Town in the 9 hour on ABC!
Round out your night at 10 on CBS for an all-new episode of CSI:NY!

Everybody dont forget to watch Human Target tonight at 8 on FOX!
As well as Modern Family and Cougar Town in the 9 hour on ABC!
Round out your night at 10 on CBS for an all-new episode of CSI:NY!

Holly said it right. Period.

Holly said it right. Period.

Holly, Come on! Parenthood’s 2.8 rating was good. DO NOT forget we’re talking about an NBC show. It is one of NBC’s highest rated shows beleive it or not, so YES it was a good rating. We all know new shows ratings are not as good as their piolets, and we start to see what they really draw by week 2 or 3. You said NBC didnt expect this show to draw over a 3, so didnt it meet their expectations last night?

Holly, Come on! Parenthood’s 2.8 rating was good. DO NOT forget we’re talking about an NBC show. It is one of NBC’s highest rated shows beleive it or not, so YES it was a good rating. We all know new shows ratings are not as good as their piolets, and we start to see what they really draw by week 2 or 3. You said NBC didnt expect this show to draw over a 3, so didnt it meet their expectations last night?

or the largest state in New England
Hey!
Not a Mainer but still-hey!

Rich, no, that would be an idiotic move which would definitely kill both series.

Katie, exactly what I’ve been saying, there really is no point in keeping The CW around.

Scott Jones said:
Everybody dont forget to watch Human Target tonight at 8 on FOX!
Nooo, actually, don’t forget to watch Old Christine at 8/7c on CBS!
I really hope this is the week Christine beats HT.

or the largest state in New England
Hey!
Not a Mainer but still-hey!

Rich, no, that would be an idiotic move which would definitely kill both series.

Katie, exactly what I’ve been saying, there really is no point in keeping The CW around.

Scott Jones said:
Everybody dont forget to watch Human Target tonight at 8 on FOX!
Nooo, actually, don’t forget to watch Old Christine at 8/7c on CBS!
I really hope this is the week Christine beats HT.

Holly, Come on! Parenthood’s 2.8 rating was good. DO NOT forget we’re talking about an NBC show. It is one of NBC’s highest rated shows beleive it or not, so YES it was a good rating. We all know new shows ratings are not as good as their piolets, and we start to see what they really draw by week 2 or 3. You said NBC didnt expect this show to draw over a 3, so didnt it meet their expectations last night?

or the largest state in New England
Hey!
Not a Mainer but still-hey!

Rich, no, that would be an idiotic move which would definitely kill both series.

Katie, exactly what I’ve been saying, there really is no point in keeping The CW around.

Scott Jones said:
Everybody dont forget to watch Human Target tonight at 8 on FOX!
Nooo, actually, don’t forget to watch Old Christine at 8/7c on CBS!
I really hope this is the week Christine beats HT.

“The fact that One Tree Hill hasn’t been renewed yet is ridiculous. GG and 90210 (both given early renewals) are scoring much lower than OTH and LUX ”

I completely agree. The CW is absolutely horrible at marketing anything. If it wasn’t for LUX I wouldn’t even turn the channel on.
Lux is far less money to produce then OTH. But I agree w/ others that the battle should not be between OTH and LUX it should be 90210 and MP that’s let go and the other two stay. OTH has a set fanbase because it’s been on for 7 years…but those ratings for show that’s on that long are not great by any standards. And for a show like LUX that is only in 7 episodes the ratings are almost that of all the other shows (if not more). So I say CW saves LUX and gives it a chance to grow, considers OTH but it doesn’t bother me if it goes cause I’ve never seen it and cans MP asap!
I think the network has great potential with LUX. It’s a great show it’s just that they gave it a mid season start on a crappy night! I bet if they did some switchin around it would do better.

And Parenthood…the pilot for me was so so. Thought it was rushed but last nights episode was great! I hope people give it a chance. I’m glad I gave it another go. And well with Lauren Graham you really can’t go wrong!

“The fact that One Tree Hill hasn’t been renewed yet is ridiculous. GG and 90210 (both given early renewals) are scoring much lower than OTH and LUX ”

I completely agree. The CW is absolutely horrible at marketing anything. If it wasn’t for LUX I wouldn’t even turn the channel on.
Lux is far less money to produce then OTH. But I agree w/ others that the battle should not be between OTH and LUX it should be 90210 and MP that’s let go and the other two stay. OTH has a set fanbase because it’s been on for 7 years…but those ratings for show that’s on that long are not great by any standards. And for a show like LUX that is only in 7 episodes the ratings are almost that of all the other shows (if not more). So I say CW saves LUX and gives it a chance to grow, considers OTH but it doesn’t bother me if it goes cause I’ve never seen it and cans MP asap!
I think the network has great potential with LUX. It’s a great show it’s just that they gave it a mid season start on a crappy night! I bet if they did some switchin around it would do better.

And Parenthood…the pilot for me was so so. Thought it was rushed but last nights episode was great! I hope people give it a chance. I’m glad I gave it another go. And well with Lauren Graham you really can’t go wrong!

“The fact that One Tree Hill hasn’t been renewed yet is ridiculous. GG and 90210 (both given early renewals) are scoring much lower than OTH and LUX ”

I completely agree. The CW is absolutely horrible at marketing anything. If it wasn’t for LUX I wouldn’t even turn the channel on.
Lux is far less money to produce then OTH. But I agree w/ others that the battle should not be between OTH and LUX it should be 90210 and MP that’s let go and the other two stay. OTH has a set fanbase because it’s been on for 7 years…but those ratings for show that’s on that long are not great by any standards. And for a show like LUX that is only in 7 episodes the ratings are almost that of all the other shows (if not more). So I say CW saves LUX and gives it a chance to grow, considers OTH but it doesn’t bother me if it goes cause I’ve never seen it and cans MP asap!
I think the network has great potential with LUX. It’s a great show it’s just that they gave it a mid season start on a crappy night! I bet if they did some switchin around it would do better.

And Parenthood…the pilot for me was so so. Thought it was rushed but last nights episode was great! I hope people give it a chance. I’m glad I gave it another go. And well with Lauren Graham you really can’t go wrong!

CW is in real trouble with that numbers on Monday Gossip Girl and yesterday 90210, what is next????

CW is in real trouble with that numbers on Monday Gossip Girl and yesterday 90210, what is next????

CW is in real trouble with that numbers on Monday Gossip Girl and yesterday 90210, what is next????

Maybe NBC should pick up 24 and Cold Case and by the way bring back Without a Trace since they way they are/were performing are completely acceptable for this network.

I really don’t get this logic at all but I think NBC’s strategy for viewers is wacked anyway. I’m still stupidly of the opinion eyeballs matter in terms of building shows and to help draw people to your network. It’s what CBS and to a lessor degree Fox has done.

Maybe NBC should pick up 24 and Cold Case and by the way bring back Without a Trace since they way they are/were performing are completely acceptable for this network.

I really don’t get this logic at all but I think NBC’s strategy for viewers is wacked anyway. I’m still stupidly of the opinion eyeballs matter in terms of building shows and to help draw people to your network. It’s what CBS and to a lessor degree Fox has done.

Maybe NBC should pick up 24 and Cold Case and by the way bring back Without a Trace since they way they are/were performing are completely acceptable for this network.

I really don’t get this logic at all but I think NBC’s strategy for viewers is wacked anyway. I’m still stupidly of the opinion eyeballs matter in terms of building shows and to help draw people to your network. It’s what CBS and to a lessor degree Fox has done.

@Scott Jones,

Parenthood got a 2.6 last night, not a 2.8.

I do think NBC was expecting over a 3 for this show.

And while a 2.6 is “good for NBC” and enough for renewal, it is not the hit NBC was hoping for.

@Scott Jones,

Parenthood got a 2.6 last night, not a 2.8.

I do think NBC was expecting over a 3 for this show.

And while a 2.6 is “good for NBC” and enough for renewal, it is not the hit NBC was hoping for.

@Scott Jones,

Parenthood got a 2.6 last night, not a 2.8.

I do think NBC was expecting over a 3 for this show.

And while a 2.6 is “good for NBC” and enough for renewal, it is not the hit NBC was hoping for.

This isn’t a bingo thing because I’m a little ambivalent about the show but I do think 10 pm isn’t a good fit for Parenthood. It’s not particularly dark or racy. I don’t know if it would do better at a 9 pm timeslot but I’d still like to see NBC try it and see what happens.

This isn’t a bingo thing because I’m a little ambivalent about the show but I do think 10 pm isn’t a good fit for Parenthood. It’s not particularly dark or racy. I don’t know if it would do better at a 9 pm timeslot but I’d still like to see NBC try it and see what happens.

This isn’t a bingo thing because I’m a little ambivalent about the show but I do think 10 pm isn’t a good fit for Parenthood. It’s not particularly dark or racy. I don’t know if it would do better at a 9 pm timeslot but I’d still like to see NBC try it and see what happens.

Holly says:

@Scott Jones,

Parenthood got a 2.6 last night, not a 2.8.

This sort of thing is the reason I do not typically post half hour results for hour long shows. Many think the rating for the first half hour is the rating.

Holly says:

@Scott Jones,

Parenthood got a 2.6 last night, not a 2.8.

This sort of thing is the reason I do not typically post half hour results for hour long shows. Many think the rating for the first half hour is the rating.

Holly says:

@Scott Jones,

Parenthood got a 2.6 last night, not a 2.8.

This sort of thing is the reason I do not typically post half hour results for hour long shows. Many think the rating for the first half hour is the rating.

Bill posts the half hour results because it’s easier.

Bill posts the half hour results because it’s easier.

Bill posts the half hour results because it’s easier.

Parenthood doing better than Chuck? Well then put it at the Monday 7pm Central slot and see what it pulls. Chuck would love a timeslot without facing the competition it faces each week. Parenthood still up in the air yet, but looking like just a basehit not a homerun.

Parenthood doing better than Chuck? Well then put it at the Monday 7pm Central slot and see what it pulls. Chuck would love a timeslot without facing the competition it faces each week. Parenthood still up in the air yet, but looking like just a basehit not a homerun.

Parenthood doing better than Chuck? Well then put it at the Monday 7pm Central slot and see what it pulls. Chuck would love a timeslot without facing the competition it faces each week. Parenthood still up in the air yet, but looking like just a basehit not a homerun.

I’m not a Chuck fan and don’t really watch the show, but it would be interesting to see how it performs in the 10:00 timeslot against The Good Wife and whatever ABC airs at 10:00. But from what I’ve heard it doesn’t sound like a 10:00 PM show.

I’m not a Chuck fan and don’t really watch the show, but it would be interesting to see how it performs in the 10:00 timeslot against The Good Wife and whatever ABC airs at 10:00. But from what I’ve heard it doesn’t sound like a 10:00 PM show.

I’m not a Chuck fan and don’t really watch the show, but it would be interesting to see how it performs in the 10:00 timeslot against The Good Wife and whatever ABC airs at 10:00. But from what I’ve heard it doesn’t sound like a 10:00 PM show.

Holy Frak. Glee had nearly 9 million viewers for a repeat? That’s almost bigger than the series premiere after Idol last year.

Holy Frak. Glee had nearly 9 million viewers for a repeat? That’s almost bigger than the series premiere after Idol last year.

Holy Frak. Glee had nearly 9 million viewers for a repeat? That’s almost bigger than the series premiere after Idol last year.

Katie, Lauren Graham isn’t supposed to have the appeal of Steve Martin. She’s playing Dianne Wiest’s role in the movie. If you don’t realize that, I assume you haven’t seen the movie.

Parenthood definitely belongs at 8pm, maybe 9pm, but its a family drama with focus on kids. Its not a 10pm show. Gotta wonder what kind of numbers it would have pulled if it had premiered in the Fall.

Katie, Lauren Graham isn’t supposed to have the appeal of Steve Martin. She’s playing Dianne Wiest’s role in the movie. If you don’t realize that, I assume you haven’t seen the movie.

Parenthood definitely belongs at 8pm, maybe 9pm, but its a family drama with focus on kids. Its not a 10pm show. Gotta wonder what kind of numbers it would have pulled if it had premiered in the Fall.

Katie, Lauren Graham isn’t supposed to have the appeal of Steve Martin. She’s playing Dianne Wiest’s role in the movie. If you don’t realize that, I assume you haven’t seen the movie.

Parenthood definitely belongs at 8pm, maybe 9pm, but its a family drama with focus on kids. Its not a 10pm show. Gotta wonder what kind of numbers it would have pulled if it had premiered in the Fall.

From another site ……
Shows spin and bias around here.

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In its second week, NBC’s new drama “Parenthood” stumbled. Whether its numbers fall further in coming weeks will determine whether the show gets a second season.

“Parenthood” averaged a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating last night at 10 p.m., according to Nielsen overnights, down 16 percent from last week’s 3.1 in its debut.

That’s not a tremendous tumble, though “Parenthood” did not have a tremendous debut rating to begin with.

After winning the timeslot last week, “Parenthood” slipped to second last night behind CBS’s “The Good Wife,” which averaged a 2.8.

“Parenthood” was still well ahead of former timeslot occupant “The Jay Leno Show’s” 10 p.m. average, and it performed 1.1 better than ABC’s competing “the forgotten,” which managed a mere 1.5 despite a strong lead from “Lost.” That explains why “forgotten” is ending soon.

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Shows spin and bias around here.

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In its second week, NBC’s new drama “Parenthood” stumbled. Whether its numbers fall further in coming weeks will determine whether the show gets a second season.

“Parenthood” averaged a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating last night at 10 p.m., according to Nielsen overnights, down 16 percent from last week’s 3.1 in its debut.

That’s not a tremendous tumble, though “Parenthood” did not have a tremendous debut rating to begin with.

After winning the timeslot last week, “Parenthood” slipped to second last night behind CBS’s “The Good Wife,” which averaged a 2.8.

“Parenthood” was still well ahead of former timeslot occupant “The Jay Leno Show’s” 10 p.m. average, and it performed 1.1 better than ABC’s competing “the forgotten,” which managed a mere 1.5 despite a strong lead from “Lost.” That explains why “forgotten” is ending soon.

From another site ……
Shows spin and bias around here.

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In its second week, NBC’s new drama “Parenthood” stumbled. Whether its numbers fall further in coming weeks will determine whether the show gets a second season.

“Parenthood” averaged a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating last night at 10 p.m., according to Nielsen overnights, down 16 percent from last week’s 3.1 in its debut.

That’s not a tremendous tumble, though “Parenthood” did not have a tremendous debut rating to begin with.

After winning the timeslot last week, “Parenthood” slipped to second last night behind CBS’s “The Good Wife,” which averaged a 2.8.

“Parenthood” was still well ahead of former timeslot occupant “The Jay Leno Show’s” 10 p.m. average, and it performed 1.1 better than ABC’s competing “the forgotten,” which managed a mere 1.5 despite a strong lead from “Lost.” That explains why “forgotten” is ending soon.

From another site ……
Shows spin and bias around here.

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In its second week, NBC’s new drama “Parenthood” stumbled. Whether its numbers fall further in coming weeks will determine whether the show gets a second season.

“Parenthood” averaged a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating last night at 10 p.m., according to Nielsen overnights, down 16 percent from last week’s 3.1 in its debut.

That’s not a tremendous tumble, though “Parenthood” did not have a tremendous debut rating to begin with.

After winning the timeslot last week, “Parenthood” slipped to second last night behind CBS’s “The Good Wife,” which averaged a 2.8.

“Parenthood” was still well ahead of former timeslot occupant “The Jay Leno Show’s” 10 p.m. average, and it performed 1.1 better than ABC’s competing “the forgotten,” which managed a mere 1.5 despite a strong lead from “Lost.” That explains why “forgotten” is ending soon.

They should air Parenthood earlier. I hope Parenthood gets another chance.

They should air Parenthood earlier. I hope Parenthood gets another chance.

They should air Parenthood earlier. I hope Parenthood gets another chance.

If Parenthood could trim the cast by a person or two it might be a better show and easier to follow the characters.

Oh yay, a chance to change my name to something funky. Can I ask what just happened?

@Jasmine I have seen the movie and I don’t think she’s based on either character. I only mentioned Steve martin because he was kind of the center of the movie and she seems to be the center of the show.

@Jasmine I have seen the movie and I don’t think she’s based on either character. I only mentioned Steve martin because he was kind of the center of the movie and she seems to be the center of the show.

@Jasmine I have seen the movie and I don’t think she’s based on either character. I only mentioned Steve martin because he was kind of the center of the movie and she seems to be the center of the show.

Here you go Acey?
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/10/pardon-our...

I beg to differ. Peter Krause’s character seems to be the leading man here. Hell, even Monica Potter got more screen time last night than Lauren.

I beg to differ. Peter Krause’s character seems to be the leading man here. Hell, even Monica Potter got more screen time last night than Lauren.

I beg to differ. Peter Krause’s character seems to be the leading man here. Hell, even Monica Potter got more screen time last night than Lauren.

I beg to differ. Peter Krause’s character seems to be the leading man here. Hell, even Monica Potter got more screen time last night than Lauren.

In the coming weeks, the numbers for 90210 and Gossip Girl will pick up. Since they haven’t been on since December, I believe that lots of fans simply didn’t know when they were returning. As for Melrose Place…well, it’s basically dead.

In the coming weeks, the numbers for 90210 and Gossip Girl will pick up. Since they haven’t been on since December, I believe that lots of fans simply didn’t know when they were returning. As for Melrose Place…well, it’s basically dead.

In the coming weeks, the numbers for 90210 and Gossip Girl will pick up. Since they haven’t been on since December, I believe that lots of fans simply didn’t know when they were returning. As for Melrose Place…well, it’s basically dead.

In the coming weeks, the numbers for 90210 and Gossip Girl will pick up. Since they haven’t been on since December, I believe that lots of fans simply didn’t know when they were returning. As for Melrose Place…well, it’s basically dead.

How the CW manages to even survive period still amazes me. They can’t be making much money.

It’s a well established fact that the network itself is losing heaps of money, Katie. You may want to have a look and see who owns the network, might give you a hint.

Holy Frak. Glee had nearly 9 million viewers for a repeat? That’s almost bigger than the series premiere after Idol last year.

Not only do viewers not matter, but the average was 7.831 million viewers. Pretty convenient rounding on your part, no?

Parenthood doing better than Chuck? Well then put it at the Monday 7pm Central slot and see what it pulls.

Because facing House (4.8 on Monday) and HIMYM (3.9 on Monday) instead of The Good Wife (2.8 last night) makes a whole lot of sense. Come on guys… think!!

How the CW manages to even survive period still amazes me. They can’t be making much money.

It’s a well established fact that the network itself is losing heaps of money, Katie. You may want to have a look and see who owns the network, might give you a hint.

Holy Frak. Glee had nearly 9 million viewers for a repeat? That’s almost bigger than the series premiere after Idol last year.

Not only do viewers not matter, but the average was 7.831 million viewers. Pretty convenient rounding on your part, no?

Parenthood doing better than Chuck? Well then put it at the Monday 7pm Central slot and see what it pulls.

Because facing House (4.8 on Monday) and HIMYM (3.9 on Monday) instead of The Good Wife (2.8 last night) makes a whole lot of sense. Come on guys… think!!

Stefan isn’t Lauren Graham being advertised as the lead. So far I agree she really hasn’t been – well maybe last week. But wasn’t that the hole reason Maura Tierney was being touted for the role?

Stefan isn’t Lauren Graham being advertised as the lead. So far I agree she really hasn’t been – well maybe last week. But wasn’t that the hole reason Maura Tierney was being touted for the role?

I can’t wait for NCIS to beat AI in total viewers. BTW I’m 23 and watch NCIS, only air heads watch AI and there are a lot of them.

I can’t wait for NCIS to beat AI in total viewers. BTW I’m 23 and watch NCIS, only air heads watch AI and there are a lot of them.

I can’t wait for NCIS to beat AI in total viewers. BTW I’m 23 and watch NCIS, only air heads watch AI and there are a lot of them.

Your first statement is meaningless, and your second satement is entirely false.

I can’t wait for NCIS to beat AI in total viewers. BTW I’m 23 and watch NCIS, only air heads watch AI and there are a lot of them.

Your first statement is meaningless, and your second satement is entirely false.

Pathetic ratings for both MP and 90210!

I like 90210 so I’m glad it was renewed, but I don’t understand why the CW chose it over OTH. One Tree Hill still has more viewers in its 7th season than 90210 in its second or GG in its third. Pathetic!

One Tree Hill also has a bigger worldwide fanbase and gets better DVD sales than both these shows. Time for Dawn to renew OTH!

Pathetic ratings for both MP and 90210!

I like 90210 so I’m glad it was renewed, but I don’t understand why the CW chose it over OTH. One Tree Hill still has more viewers in its 7th season than 90210 in its second or GG in its third. Pathetic!

One Tree Hill also has a bigger worldwide fanbase and gets better DVD sales than both these shows. Time for Dawn to renew OTH!

Contract issues with OTH.

Contract issues with OTH.

I think NBC should be more worried about The Biggest Loser than Parenthood. What has happened to the ratings this cycle?

With so many people jumping ship on the 1/2 hour this show is….. G O N E !! Sorry NBC.

I wasn’t surprised to see Parenthood drop in ratings from last weeks series premiere, but what did surprise me was the major drop off during the second half of the show. As one person posted earlier, that means that the show couldn’t hold the audience it had that likely carried over from Biggest Loser. And that doesn’t bode well for any show. It is expected that the 1/2 hour numbers are going to fluctuate, but not like it did for Parenthood. I have a feeling that NBC has to be disappointed by the numbers because they promoted the heck out of it during the Olympics, they cast some pretty high profile actors and yet it isn’t a smash hit. I can’t say for sure if NBC is going to renew the show or not, but I think that as the next few weeks play out we will get a definite picture of what the ratings are going to do. If they slip again next week then that could be trouble for NBC.

I wasn’t surprised to see Parenthood drop in ratings from last weeks series premiere, but what did surprise me was the major drop off during the second half of the show. As one person posted earlier, that means that the show couldn’t hold the audience it had that likely carried over from Biggest Loser. And that doesn’t bode well for any show. It is expected that the 1/2 hour numbers are going to fluctuate, but not like it did for Parenthood. I have a feeling that NBC has to be disappointed by the numbers because they promoted the heck out of it during the Olympics, they cast some pretty high profile actors and yet it isn’t a smash hit. I can’t say for sure if NBC is going to renew the show or not, but I think that as the next few weeks play out we will get a definite picture of what the ratings are going to do. If they slip again next week then that could be trouble for NBC.

They're about the same as the fall cycle, which didn't have to contend with American Idol. Surely Parenthood is a bigger concern for them right now. They need it to stay in the high 2's and preferably make it to the low 3's.

There aren’t contract issues with OTH anymore. Now it’s up to the network to renew it or not. And honestly I don’t know why they didn’t do it already… Oh sorry, I do know: it’s the CW we’re talking about…

“Can a network reverse a decision for a renewed program? Has it ever been done?”

See Southland on NBC last year.

There aren’t contract issues with OTH anymore. Now it’s up to the network to renew it or not. And honestly I don’t know why they didn’t do it already… Oh sorry, I do know: it’s the CW we’re talking about…

“Can a network reverse a decision for a renewed program? Has it ever been done?”

See Southland on NBC last year.

love the lost show

Really want to see Parenthood back next season hope it dont drop anymore!!

Katie, I don’t think they were singling anybody out while Maura was still in the cast. However, when Lauren came aboard they started promoting the heck out of her, which I never really understood. The whole point of having an ensemble cast is not to single anyone out.
When the show started last week it was hard to figure out who was the “star” of the show but now it seems more likely to me that it’s the oldest brother. And in any case, Peter Krause gets the first credit. He’s the “mainest” of the main cast, so to speak.
On the other hand, it was more difficult to figure it out with B&S, with credits rolling in alphabetical order. But Calista and Sally are the stars there.

But if the show knows what’s good for them, they’ll do like B&S did in their first season and give everybody the same amount of screentime. The focus should be on:
1) The four siblings
2) Their partners and parents
3) Their kids

Katie, I don’t think they were singling anybody out while Maura was still in the cast. However, when Lauren came aboard they started promoting the heck out of her, which I never really understood. The whole point of having an ensemble cast is not to single anyone out.
When the show started last week it was hard to figure out who was the “star” of the show but now it seems more likely to me that it’s the oldest brother. And in any case, Peter Krause gets the first credit. He’s the “mainest” of the main cast, so to speak.
On the other hand, it was more difficult to figure it out with B&S, with credits rolling in alphabetical order. But Calista and Sally are the stars there.

But if the show knows what’s good for them, they’ll do like B&S did in their first season and give everybody the same amount of screentime. The focus should be on:
1) The four siblings
2) Their partners and parents
3) Their kids

Wal-Mart is pushing Biggest Loser stuff big-time…so if I were at 30 Rock Plaza, I'd be worried far more, as that is a huge and expected cash cow that is in danger…

I hope they dont cancel Parenthood.

Well there’s a lot of good and bad things to say about Parenthood’s numbers. Yes a 2.6 is low, but on the other hand, a 16% drop from the premiere isn’t bad, and a 2.6 on NBC isn’t bad, but it’s not great either. So is NBC happy with it, I wouldn’t say yes, but I don’t think they are upset either. It’s better than most shows on the network, but that’s not really a ringing endorsement.

And to those thinking NBC should move it to another slot, I don’t think that’s a good idea. First of all, where will they put it? 10PM is the only available slot on Tuesdays, Wednesday’s at 9 would kill it having to face Idol. Sure they could put it on Wednesdays at 8, and throw Mercy under the idol bus, but that would probably destroy L&O SVU. Thursdays are out, Fridays and Saturdays too. Sundays aren’t a good idea because where would they put Minute to Win It? And Mondays at 9 would probably fare worse than it’s doing now. (But I am sure it would do better than Trauma, but so would a show about watching paint dry!) Besides, after all the shakeups with NBC, right now the best thing they can do is have some consistency for the remainder of the season.

Well there’s a lot of good and bad things to say about Parenthood’s numbers. Yes a 2.6 is low, but on the other hand, a 16% drop from the premiere isn’t bad, and a 2.6 on NBC isn’t bad, but it’s not great either. So is NBC happy with it, I wouldn’t say yes, but I don’t think they are upset either. It’s better than most shows on the network, but that’s not really a ringing endorsement.

And to those thinking NBC should move it to another slot, I don’t think that’s a good idea. First of all, where will they put it? 10PM is the only available slot on Tuesdays, Wednesday’s at 9 would kill it having to face Idol. Sure they could put it on Wednesdays at 8, and throw Mercy under the idol bus, but that would probably destroy L&O SVU. Thursdays are out, Fridays and Saturdays too. Sundays aren’t a good idea because where would they put Minute to Win It? And Mondays at 9 would probably fare worse than it’s doing now. (But I am sure it would do better than Trauma, but so would a show about watching paint dry!) Besides, after all the shakeups with NBC, right now the best thing they can do is have some consistency for the remainder of the season.

But…but…the Melrose international money. Think of it, they could make a nice shiny nickel.

But…but…the Melrose international money. Think of it, they could make a nice shiny nickel.

god parenthood is awful. too many characters, and nobody original or interesting enough to stick around for.

Because facing House (4.8 on Monday) and HIMYM (3.9 on Monday) instead of The Good Wife (2.8 last night) makes a whole lot of sense. Come on guys… think!!

Acey, that person was countering the argument that Parenthood’s ratings make it a stronger candidate for renewal than Chuck. And they were saying they’d like to see Parenthood pull the same numbers against Chuck’s Monday competition. They weren’t advocating NBC move Parenthood to Monday nights, basically they were just saying that comparing the two directly is a bit unfair because Chuck’s competition is so much stronger.

And I would not be surprised, even given the disparity in competition, Chuck has better ratings than Parenthood by the end of the season.

Because facing House (4.8 on Monday) and HIMYM (3.9 on Monday) instead of The Good Wife (2.8 last night) makes a whole lot of sense. Come on guys… think!!

Acey, that person was countering the argument that Parenthood’s ratings make it a stronger candidate for renewal than Chuck. And they were saying they’d like to see Parenthood pull the same numbers against Chuck’s Monday competition. They weren’t advocating NBC move Parenthood to Monday nights, basically they were just saying that comparing the two directly is a bit unfair because Chuck’s competition is so much stronger.

And I would not be surprised, even given the disparity in competition, Chuck has better ratings than Parenthood by the end of the season.

Brothers and Sisters has too many characters too, dreebee.

ABC can’t wait fir DWTDS to return and even V. ABC coming in fourth on a night with Lost—something is wrong. hmm it’s the fact te ABC is airing a repeat of Lost and the forgotten.

I think V will do moderately good in the post- Lost slot. I mean the thing other shows that have been post-Lost had was not a following or good ratings before airing after Lost. V however has both. V did great on Tuesdays at 8 with no lead-in. So I think ratings might drop a little because it’s moving to 10 but it will do exactly what ABC expects from the show!

ABC can’t wait fir DWTDS to return and even V. ABC coming in fourth on a night with Lost—something is wrong. hmm it’s the fact te ABC is airing a repeat of Lost and the forgotten.

I think V will do moderately good in the post- Lost slot. I mean the thing other shows that have been post-Lost had was not a following or good ratings before airing after Lost. V however has both. V did great on Tuesdays at 8 with no lead-in. So I think ratings might drop a little because it’s moving to 10 but it will do exactly what ABC expects from the show!

Any move for Parenthood would instantly kill that show. It’s already doing pretty subpar for its timeslot as it is.

Following the Biggest Loser with anemic competition from the other networks is just about the easiest timeslot Parenthood could get, and it got an Olympic marketing blitz, and it’s still doing only barely acceptable. Leno got about 2.0′s in the post-Loser slot, and hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if Parenthood was in the 2.2-2.0 range by the end of the season.

Glee after Idol is going to do great come April 13. Glee was doing well on its own in the fall, but combine that with the monster Idol lead-in – a highly compatible one at that, given the target audience is nearly identical – and I predict mid-4.0′s, maybe even a 5.0 for Glee.

Any move for Parenthood would instantly kill that show. It’s already doing pretty subpar for its timeslot as it is.

Following the Biggest Loser with anemic competition from the other networks is just about the easiest timeslot Parenthood could get, and it got an Olympic marketing blitz, and it’s still doing only barely acceptable. Leno got about 2.0′s in the post-Loser slot, and hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if Parenthood was in the 2.2-2.0 range by the end of the season.

Glee after Idol is going to do great come April 13. Glee was doing well on its own in the fall, but combine that with the monster Idol lead-in – a highly compatible one at that, given the target audience is nearly identical – and I predict mid-4.0′s, maybe even a 5.0 for Glee.

Ouch for 90210 and Melrose Place but Melrose Place was expected to get ratings this low however i was expecting 90210 to be over 2 million viewers i think the CW should have realized that having it taken off the air for 3 months is a bad idea

Ouch for 90210 and Melrose Place but Melrose Place was expected to get ratings this low however i was expecting 90210 to be over 2 million viewers i think the CW should have realized that having it taken off the air for 3 months is a bad idea

Was there “Idol” overrun with “Glee”? Nonetheless, still not a bad showing for a rerun. The show won A Golden Globe and a SAG award since it took some time off, so that could help lure more viewers.

8 million for a Glee repeat is amazing. Especially since the last time that Idol was used as its lead in, Glee got a number that was not that much higher than that.

parenthood will be lucky to finish the run above 2.0

parenthood will be lucky to finish the run above 2.0

No Idol ended on time last night

I thought the second episode of Parenthood was better than the pilot. I really like Peter Krause's character, and his wife. I can't believe I also like Dax Shepard's and Craig T. Nelson's characters, I usually never like those two actors in anything.

NBC shhould have aired the pilot plus episode 2 on the same night last week. 2ndly, some of their programming might be more succesful on Wednesday nights. They should air Biggest Loser + Parenthood on that night and maybe move Law & Order SVU to Tuesdays following Biggest Loser. Also, they could stand to try Chuck on 8 pm on Wednesdays.

Maybe the CW will finally realize that the best way to lose the few viewers you have it by having a 3 month hiatus. What they SHOULD have done was have privileged in the fall, and gossip girl in the spring (for example).

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90210 did terribly even against Idol, and they still renewed it? C’mon, I’ll be mad if this is what causes LUX and/or OTH to be canceled! :[

Glee did wonderfully last night for a repeat and for being away about as long as FlashForward has. This a positive sign for when it returns and gets the post-Idol slot; it could determine what day works best for it(IMO I prefer Tuesday). Looking forward to it!

As for Parenthood, ooh I was expecting around a 2.8, but I think BL being lower than last week is partly to blame. Too bad, ’cause I thought that episode was better than the pilot; I really liked the scene with Sarah’s daughter when she gets held back one year. Hopefully it won’t trend down much further; since Castle & Chuck can get renewed with their kind of ratings and that it is on NBC, I figured Parenthood could too. We’ll see.

I’ll end it all by saying BUH-BYE forgotten, you will be forgotten.

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90210 did terribly even against Idol, and they still renewed it? C’mon, I’ll be mad if this is what causes LUX and/or OTH to be canceled! :[

Glee did wonderfully last night for a repeat and for being away about as long as FlashForward has. This a positive sign for when it returns and gets the post-Idol slot; it could determine what day works best for it(IMO I prefer Tuesday). Looking forward to it!

As for Parenthood, ooh I was expecting around a 2.8, but I think BL being lower than last week is partly to blame. Too bad, ’cause I thought that episode was better than the pilot; I really liked the scene with Sarah’s daughter when she gets held back one year. Hopefully it won’t trend down much further; since Castle & Chuck can get renewed with their kind of ratings and that it is on NBC, I figured Parenthood could too. We’ll see.

I’ll end it all by saying BUH-BYE forgotten, you will be forgotten.

I decided to watch Parenthood last night and decided I really really liked it. I think I'll keep watching. Which means only one thing, that NBC will cancel it. When NBC gets a good show these days, I almost wish it were on ABC instead, so that it has a chance to stay on, like Lipstick Jungle.

I really like Parenthood. I hope it gets picked up. The only problem is there are so many people!!

They are just two episodes in, they would find they way around hopefully. As
long as Parenthood won't drop below 2.5, I think the show is safe. Crossing
my fingers for it,

On another note, Glee's repeat number is a great indication on how it will
perform when new episodes come in, I think a 5.0 is possible (it could beat
LOST!)

I was surprised to even see another episode of Melrose. Nice to see all those hot babes again, though. Although I cannot possibly comprehend how that fairly nice computer magnate ever hooked with Amanda Woodward – the woman is a terrorist!

It's an ensemble cast, plus it's a family. Who do you propose we dump? How would you explain their disappearance?
In hind sight, the only thing that could've “uncrowded” the cast would be if the actors who play the grandparents were only recurring.

As it is, there are 14 regulars, same as in B&S. Plus, B&S has more adult regulars (12), so the adult regulars here (9) get even more screentime than those on B&S (kids usually have 1-2 scenes per episode). And since nobody's complaining about B&S being overcrowded, I really can't understand people complaining about that here. Give it a couple of episodes to memorize who's who.

Am I noticing a gain in The Good Wife's #s? I point this out because I thought Parenthood would hurt TGW and the opposite seems to be true.

What's with this change in format??

I can't believe that 13.64 million people watch the Good Wife (I've never even heard of it before) yet only 5.709 million people watch Parenthood (which was promoted endlessly during the Olympics). Though in 18-49 the Good Wife was 2.8 and Parenthood was very close at 2.5. What's so great about the Good Wife that gets 13.64 million people to tune in, or is it all 50+ year olds who watch the Good Wife? Also I wonder what would happen if these two shows were to swap channels at the same time slot. Would Parenthood's viewers/numbers increase a bit and would Good Wife's decrease? That's what I think.

See this post.

If you have not heard of the The Good Wife, clearly you have been away broadcast TV since last summer. It is a CBS drama, hence the viewership and old skew. As it were, Julianna Margulies starred on NBC's ER for quite some time.

Parenthood didn't really affect The Good Wife either way, which has been in the high 2's all season long for CBS, a pretty consistent performer. CBS skews so old in this hour one couldn't have expected it to seriously impact anything else.

i find it weird that you guys did not know “Scrubs” has been FINALLY cancelled. They posted a message on their facebook page.

The CW's a cable network, It works differently.

Is there a joke hidden somewhere in this comment?

Just cause you promote something, doesn't mean people should want to watch it. Everyone isn't a drone who just does what marketers tell them to.

I watched The Goodwife last week for the first time, and it was very good.

Haven't seen parent hood yet, but if it's all over the place like modern family; my first time watching it will be my last.

Just cause you promote something, doesn't mean people should want to watch it. Everyone isn't a drone who just does what marketers tell them to.

I watched The Goodwife last week for the first time, and it was very good.

Haven't seen parent hood yet, but if it's all over the place like modern family; my first time watching it will be my last.

No surprise with Parenthood-We watched because it was so touted by everyone as such a great show, the cast looked good, they promoted it like it was the best thing since sliced bread and then watching it was a huge downer….one bummer after another. I like shows that relate to real life and what life is really like (coping with the journey of everyday stressors)e just as much as shows I watch for an escape but there wasn't a single character that was likable. Why don't networks understand the components of good, successful, watchable, relatable, likable shows? There are so many ways to go about getting a great combination and then you get a premier this bad? Seriously! I was a little concerned when my mother said, we watched the first 15 minutes but haven't watched the rest yet (saved on dvr)-then I watched it (also on dvr, like every show I like-it goes on the dvr) and it was one bummer after another-I was drained by the half-way point! There's a big difference between drama, tragedy, real life chaos of families, kids, divorce, mid-life crisis, career balance, marriage blah blah blah but what keeps you going is the good stuff-no matter how little or big. There was no good stuff until the very last scene-20 seconds of likable character, 20 seconds of a good connection between two people-out of an hour of nastiness, thoughtless, rude, narcissistic, me-first, I'm so much better than you, blah blah blah un-likable characters. What an absolute, utter disappointment! I am surprise they only lost 16% but then if the premiere numbers weren't so great, maybe people knew better than I did and saw this show for what it was before I did. UGH, I really got sucked into thinking it was going to be good. I should have known – NBC only heavily promotes their bad shows, and ignores their gems-that should have been the first clue.

Any bets on which week Chuck will beat Parenthood? I give Parenthood one more week, then Chuck will beat it on a consistent basis.

Chuck's competition: House, HIMYM/(RoE/AoP) was BBT, Bachelor/Dancing
Parenthood's competition: the forgotten (likely cancelled?), The Good Wife

NBC promoted Parenthood like crazy during Olympics, while Chuck only got 1 commercial.

Chuck > Parenthood

The problem with Parenthood, besides being somewhat of a downer (as another poster noted) is that there is nothing new on it. All of the characters have been seen before (overbearing patriarch, his patient wife, varous adult children with typical problems, at least one obnoxious teen, etc), the situations presented have been done ad nauseum, and with little new to say, I don't see Parenthood lasting very long.

As for the rest of the ratings, there are no real surprises. Just another typical Tuesday in primetime.

How could anyone “NOT” watch LOST??????

Ever tried Chuck? I find it to be a “feel good show.” One of the few shows I actually still look forward too. Got some comedy and some action. Although the idea is crazy (having a computer downloaded into your brain), the character development is great. You can almost imagine yourself in the same situation reacting in very similar ways to Chuck. It is pretty funny, has a bit of action, bit of romance, and a whole lot of indirect movie references. Overall, it is one of the best written shows I think I have ever seen. Until this season the episodes have been very family friendly, but unfortunately there has been a small shift away from family friendliness… Violence and sex just seem to pull in more viewers….

I agree here. Chuck could be THE BEST hour-long series of television NBC has. Looking at the ratings… Parenthood is ahead of Chuck but only has had two episodes… those ratings will drop a good bit I would guess. Law and Order SVU, although not particularly my style, pulls in a bit higher ratings than Chuck… however, it is a LOT more expensive. Chuck, I believe is the only NBC hour scripted show that could even possibly pull over a 2.0 in that timeslot. If NBC does not renew Chuck right now, the company might have lost their minds… I think with a better timeslot and possibly a better network, Chuck could EASILY be pulling 3.5s. It is just that caliber of a show. I won't comment on NBC's Thursday night 30 minute shows because they don't have terribly great competition. I would be interested to see what the office/30 rock would pull in that monday timeslot against new episodes of House, How I Met Your Mother, Reality television *shudders*, and whatever else airs that I am leaving out.

Lost is a good show. But people who don't watch Lost generally don't have the time to get caught up. Lost is one of those shows where if you miss an episode you will be “Lost.” (excuse that pun). I watched the first two seasons of the show and it just got weird for me. When I get time, I will probably pick it back up again… but the gist of what I am saying is… not many people have the time to catch up on 5 seasons of a television show.

ok, so just watched parenthood. i really wanted to hate it cuz I luv bashing NBC, cuz its so easy, haha, but I really couldnt

i do think it is one of the higher quality shows on network television, its writing is good, acting is pretty good, and the stories are easily relatable. I do think NBC made a mistake by putting it on at 10pm, it is a lighter side show, that the whole family could enjoy. if it does make it to a season 2, my advice to NBC, promote the heck out of it during the summer, and move it to an 8pm slot. This show has something, I dont know what exactly, but NBC should really try to make it work.

All the peeps predicting Parenthood would save NBC you have some 'splaining to do.

NBC could instantly acquire American Idol and all related assets and still somehow find a way to screw it up.

It's a slow moving show. I watched it when it premiered and fell asleep on the second episode.

Why do they have Parenthood at 10 PM? That's just terrible programming. It should be on at 8 PM as a lead in for Biggest Loser!

Why do they have Parenthood at 10 PM? That's just terrible programming. It should be on at 8 PM as a lead in for Biggest Loser!

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@ An0malous
NBC found a way to screw up Heroes why stop now.

@ An0malous
NBC found a way to screw up Heroes why stop now.