Bye bye, FlashForward. It was nice knowing you.

Aww too bad for FlashForward, not surprising but still sad for me

The Mentalist is on ABC now?

The Mentalist is on ABC now? I did not know that!

Pretty crappy ratings for that show.

As expected with Flash Forward. You can't put a show that is struggling story-wise on hiatus for 3 months and think it will retain it's audience

I think that is pretty reasonable for Flash Forward after being gone for so long — lets see how it odes next week. I thought it did a good job of reestablishing itself last night. Wish they would put tseries finale of ugly betty in a better time slot — it did serve ABC well at one point.

FlashForward did hold pretty steady for the two hours. By 9:30 it was up to its best numbers and total viewers went down and then back up. I think its a bad week to judge the show somewhat, cuz I think it would lose some viewers to March Madness.

Pretty much what I expected, bad writing and this super huge hiatus killed the show. Let's hope V won't do the same. But I guess ABC like killing new shows, just like Invasion a few years ago, started off at 15 millions, hiatus, 10, hiatus, 8, cancellation. Way to go, this is working.

Anyway I never really cared, I tuned up because I wondered if they would correct the mistakes.

Bu-bye Flashforward. It is so not coming back. Not only because the ratings are awful, but the re-tooling did nothing to improved it's overall dreariness.

ABC show name error at 10pm corrected. It was a Private Practice repeat.

Well, that was predictable for FF. That's gonna be the end after the season

With the quality and more fast-paced nature of lasts night episodes and with it picking up a tick for the start of the first ep to the end of the last ep. I think there could be a possibility of FlashForward gaining momentum again. That was the first ep I watched since the 5 episode and I felt like I didn't miss anything (because I didn't). To bad for the numbers this week though.

The NBC shows did better than I expected. Wow. Community and P&R bounced back a bit from last week. 30 Rock was up. And The Office down. I do think a lot of NBC's audience are younger men who probably tuned into the basketball tournament.

Flashforward was DOA. I don't know why they didn't lead in with a new “Greys” episode. But they really didn't promote the show at all.

And The Marriage Ref? ugh. I don't get it but I guess it's a successful show for NBC

Shocking that Flash Foward declined..3 months off the air and what did they expect. That show is 1 season and gone.

Was Private Practice on ABC a rerun last night?

Unfortunate but not at all surprising about FF. What does ABC expect?

What happened to The Office? 30 Rock with a 3.0 and Office only pulls a 3.6?

Marriage Ref is a keeper… FlashForward, not so much…

I read some tweets that The Office had an overrun with 30 Rock. 30 Rock's numbers would probably go down

GREAT NIGHT NBC!!!!! The NBC comedies are very good. And funny. With no Survivor or AI, NBC can show it's muscles. Or whatever smaller onew they have. NBC will overtake ABC for third place this season. ABC killed FF. That's there own fault.

NBCs results aren't that surprising compared to last week. Last week there was the idol results show which kicked around both 8pm shows. This week Community bounced back but not to the level of 2 weeks ago (DST effect?) while Parks still dropped .1 from last week. Odd that 30 Rock and Marriage Ref were up but there wasn't really much competition other than basketball for either one so I suppose that could be why.

FF was never going to be up from it's last airing. It got virtually no buzz that it was coming back and people were already leaving in droves when it went off the air.

Too bad about FlashForward, but you sort of saw this coming. ABC probably should have broken up the sections of the season differently, and then putting it up against the first night of the NCAA's didn't do it any favors, either. Bummer, since Jack Davenport is one of my favorite actors (watch the BBC version of Coupling).

CBS has to be happy with the basketball ratings. Especially with the upsets and overtime last night, the ratings tonight should be high again.

Looks like Marriage Ref might end up being a keeper for NBC.

Flashforward performed as expected. I can't see it going up from here, so…enjoy it while you can.

I didn't realize Fringe was a repeat…hmm.

Forg, you are correct. I will note that in the post.

You can bet on that. MARRIAGE REF will be around for another season.

ReallyTired, NBC exactly the same overall in adults 18-49 as last week.

frivolousz21, read the post.

Wow, not even a first half hour bump for FF. If ABC had anything else, I'm not even sure it would keep the timeslot until the end of the year.

I still can find no rhyme or reason for knowing if P&R or Community will be higher each week.

Marriage Ref ties for the best performing 11pm show? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

For all commenting about how foolish it was to go against CBS basketball, CBS's average rating on the night was only 0.3 points above the 3.4 they averaged last Thursday. Not a big difference.

I hope at least FlashForward could settle at 2.0 during the remainder of its run. But that would be hard once Survivor and Bones returns.

Not actually replying to the post but thought this would get your attention. Check the “Flash Forward: Will Long Hiatus Impact Nielsen Ratings?” This is what I wrote, and I want a cookie for guessing accurately!

“Well, it's DST, so it's going to drop from its last showing. Figure a 1.7-1.8 and about 6.25 million viewers. That's the standard drop from DST from its last numbers. (loses 0.3/0.4 in ratings and 750k viewers, pretty much what most shows were hit with this week)

If it does the same as its last airing, that's a little better than expected, but it's still cancellation territory. If it does worse, the show has cratered.”

Ok, ok, the reasoning is bad at this point. DST doesn't seem to affect shows as greatly from Wednesday onwards. I'm right, but for the wrong reasons. Even if Flash Forward rises to a 2.2/2.4 at best, the show is still done. ABC will cancel it.

Nice to see 30 Rock finally getting over the 3.0 hump. And they're second in the timeslot! Great. I know, I know, no competition but still, yay! They redeemed themselves for last week's horrendous episode with a great one yesterday.
Funny how the repeats of TVD and SPN beat or tie the demo for Melrose, High Society and Fly girls…. Hm

Marriage ref was only up because it didn't have The Mentalist or Private Practice to compete with. Its second season is guaranteed, but I don't see it going any further than that.
And of course, there's FF. Its 1.9 is better than what I predicted by .1 but still bad. It'll finish its 22-episode order, release all the DVDs (second half of S1 and entire S1) and “cross over”.

Blame the hiatus if you like, or blame an amazing day and night of NCAA hoops, but for my money the failure of Flash Forward is almost entirely in the writing. The writers of Flash Forward have made a critical mistake throughout the series in thinking that television viewers are patient. They are not. Yes, the show had been on hiatus, so it needed to open with a reminder of previous events, which it did (took 90 seconds, which was OK), but then it devoted the next FOUR MINUTES to a very philosophical narrative exposition before finally giving us the first lines of dialogue. And the real ACTION in the episode didn't begin until the well into the second hour. When it happened, it was actually intriguing, and for the first time in the evening, I was curious and interested as to what might happen next.

Unfortunately for FF, I'm already convinced, as most of you clearly are as well, that there will be no second season, which further lessens the likelihood that viewers will be patient and will invest time in a program that's destined for cancellation. Thus, FF had better cut to the chase, show us a good story, and let the actions and events speak louder than the words. Don't tell us, show us!

With CBS showing basketball I really have nothing to say. I watched FF and liked it. It will be a fun rest of the season.

I was dead on in my estimate for viewership, looks like FlashForward is a goner, now I guess it is really only V that is the question

NBC in second! Do I here ABC in third

I have FF DVR'd but I'm not sure if I want to watch it if it'll be going away. The only silver lining is the numbers did grow and it did have highly competitive NCAA games going against it. Still, it needs to grow starting next week if it has any hope.

I'm thinking NBC needs to start preparing Community and P&R to replace The Office. Have The Office lead in to the fresher shows because it's lost steam awhile ago and once it's gone they are really going to be screwed.

NBC in second! Wow. Although it was easy competition. But lately it's becoming third a lot of nights. As if ABC is dying and NBC is a zombie coming back from the grave

Yes! NBC's comedies beat Flash Forward. Last fall, I don't think anyone would have predicted this!

Lost interest in FlashForward at the break and looks like I'm not the only one. Happy to see NBC's Thursday night showing signs of life (even if it was against weaker competition). Have to say that I cracked up during 30 Rock last night because during the storyline about Philly owned Kabletown purchasing NBC TV, Comcast (oops, I mean Kabletown) states they were able to write of the purchase of NBC as a charitable donation. For some reason, that made me think of all of you here on TVBTN

Rob/Bill was there any DST impact felt on this Thursday's 8pm hour overall versus last week? I know it's hard to compare since line-up are so different, but it seems like people are adjusting better as the week progressed.

I actually guessed right yesterday…I was half expecting to reverse-jinx it and the number would've been like a 2.9 instead.

Doesn't FF have to get into the high 2's in the demo in order to survive? I mean, even if it does improve over the last few weeks(and I think it will at least marginally), how do you bring back your most-hyped new show because it improved from a low of 1.9 to a still-porous 2.4(if that's even possible)? This show just had waaaaaaay too high expectations to settle for that.

ABC wanted this to be the new LOST? Well, didn't LOST have a series-low 3.8 demo on Tuesday? At this point the FF producers would have to take an entire town hostage to get that kind of number. I'll say it again–FF would've made for an awesome 10-hour miniseries.

It's not like the NBC comedies have caught up to FF. FF has fallen to the level that Comm and P&R have been at for months. That doesn't really qualifies as an accomplishment on their parts but more a dismal failure on the part of FF.

Too bad for FlashForward. I wasn't looking forward to its return because I thought the show was OK in the fall. However, this time around it feels like it's improved somewhat. It was slow at times, but the story was pretty solid. I was hoping this would do well, because I think FF deserves to come back versus V, which I also watched last fall. V was borderline in both quality and story. It felt too superficial and uninvolving. But as any scifi and tv enthusiast, I am awaiting its return in 2 weeks.

I think the only positive thing that can be said about FlashForward's performance is that it held steady throughout the night. I've only watched the first hour, it seemed a little better, and I plan on sticking it through the end, but it still kind of felt like it was dragging halfway through the episode

My reviews for last nights shows:

FlashForward–8/10 (best two episodes of the series)
Community–7/10
Parks and Recreation–8/10
The Office–8/10
30 Rock–8.5/10

Supernatural repeat did better than a Vampire Diaries repeat.

I'm guessing FlashForward will fall to a 1.6 next week… If this was the “re-premiere” then it probably won't go up next week.

What is wrong with people???

Parks & Recreation was the funniest last night it has ever been. It's probably the only show on TV that literally gets better every single week since it first debuted. It is on a consistant upswing of hilarity every week. Yet nobody appreciates it. GRRRR.

My guess is, with FF, The Forgotten and BOT surely to be canceled and Betty already being a zombie, ABC will be pretty content if V manages to average 2.5 for the rest of the season. There are nine episodes left, right? Combined with the ratings for the first four the season will average at about 3.0 and ABC will definitely greenlight it for a second season.

Great night for NBC! I'm sure The Office will go up in the finals.

SUPERNATURAL BEAT VAMPIRE DIARIES!

btw did you notice that NBC was second in every half hour? wow

actually ABC cut an episode off V season 1 is 12 not 13 episodes so 8 left

I won't be shocked in the least if the FlashForward drop doesn't happen with V.

Something remotely young skewing for CBS. They must be delighted.

Sweet, I called it on FlashForward. I predicted a 1.9! Too bad this wasn't a contest. Anyway, I'm happy for the NBC comedies. I was expecting Community and P&R to be down like other 8pm shows have been this week.

Dang. Flashforward returned with such a good 2-parter too. best two episodes the series have had so far. Hope ratings change next week..

Dang. Flashforward returned with such a good 2-parter too. best two episodes the series have had so far. Hope ratings change next week..

btw did you notice that NBC was second in every half hour? wow

Which means their full slate of originals beat precisely one show with original episodes….

flashforward could have been worse in ratings, but hopefully the good feedback from the episode will bring viewers back.

wasnt that off from Dec 3

flashforward could have been worse in ratings, but hopefully the good feedback from the episode will bring viewers back.

wasnt that off from Dec 3

What has been the general ratings trend for The Mentalist? Have the show ever dropped that low before? Because ouch…even considering basketball.

What has been the general ratings trend for The Mentalist? Have the show ever dropped that low before? Because ouch…even considering basketball.

Say what? Mentalist on ABC? Somethings wacky…

Say what? Mentalist on ABC? Somethings wacky…

What has been the general ratings trend for the mentalist this season? Has it ever been that low before? Because even with bastketball (there were so many excellent games last night!)…ouch.

What has been the general ratings trend for the mentalist this season? Has it ever been that low before? Because even with bastketball (there were so many excellent games last night!)…ouch.

haha flashforward. those are heroes ratings.

How does this compare to day one of the tourney last year?

How does this compare to day one of the tourney last year?

Pretty stupid to bring Flash Forward against the NCAA tournament, especially the first night of games. You know how many people are either watching the game, at a bar watching the games or too hungover from the afternoon of watching games to watch TV.

Pretty stupid to bring Flash Forward against the NCAA tournament, especially the first night of games. You know how many people are either watching the game, at a bar watching the games or too hungover from the afternoon of watching games to watch TV.

Oh, FlashForward…how I will miss you. =(

Oh, FlashForward…how I will miss you. =(

Flashforward came back at a wrong time cause last night and next thursday is NCAA tournament had it waited or came back sooner I bet ratings would have been alot better.

Whoa, just blacked out there for a moment. I saw…yes, I believe it was the future. It was ABC’s fall schedule…and there was no FlashForward on it! What could it all MEAN?!

Sorry, couldn’t resist. So long, FF. Now to see if V fares any better….

There's more NCAA basketball Mar. 25. New episodes of Survivor and Bones resume Apr. 1. FF is doomed.

You can make lots of excuses for FlashForward, but CBS last night wasn't much higher than it was last Thursday, and Fox and the CW ran all repeats. Nobody watched it because nobody wanted to watch it.

Whoever decided last night was a good night to bring back FF should be fired. With basketball on there wasn't even time to watch it on DVR last night since it was 2 hours.

The show is probably toast and honestly I see it as a sign of things to come for ABC dramas. They can't pitch a successful new one to save their lives. Ratings for Grey's and Housewives are down and Lost is gone after this year. Is Private Practice the last new drama they have had that lasted longer than a season(Castle wasn't a full season last year but got a second is all I can think of off the top of my head).

I don't think it will get to the lengths of NBC's current state of crap ratings but I wouldn't be surprised if they took the steepest ratings decline over all the networks over the next 2 seasons. It would be hard for NBC to take a steep drop considering how they use a step ladder to reach what they pull at their very best.

On another note, the basketball last night was a blast. Lots of good games.

Add a new one to the Bingo card. “March Madness killed my show!”

I wouldn't consider it being an excuse for me for poor ratings. CBS shows generally do damn well on Thursdays(possibly better than what March Madness did last night) but I NEVER watch anything on CBS on Thursdays. So in my case watching basketball instead was a direct result of not watching Flash Forward.

What is most troubling for FF is to look at what a repeat of another serialized show, Fringe did as compared to it in the same timeslot.

ABC FlashForward 1.9 5 6.476
FOX Fringe (repeat) 1.3 4 4.515

Not a good sign considering Fringe itself was in the danger zone with new episodes at ratings similar to what FF pulled last night.

ABC's woes just keep get bigger. FlashForward has been a big (and expensive) bust for them. So ABC is now down to two hopes from this years drama development – Happy Town and V. Maybe Happy Town will do a Good Wife/Undercover Boss and perform much better than anyone expects! And I'm with Bill in regards to March Madness having next to nothing to do with FlashForward's numbers last night.

Elsewhere I'll repeat what I said last week – why is this NBC comedy block renewed? On the plus side for NBC The Marriage Ref is holding up much better than anyone expected. Lets see how long that lasts.

I wouldn't worry too much about Fringe's number Brandon, since it has already been renewed !

I wouldn't worry too much about Fringe's number Brandon, since it has already been renewed !

I’m glad 30 Rock went up, I haven’t watched the episode yet, but it’s supposedly funny.

I think you've got to take FF's ratings in consideration of the tourney. If not for the tourney lastnight I would have watched FF's return.

I think there is another death star in the ratings that comes annually that isn't American Idol, it's called the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (a.k.a. March Madness).

“Why is this NBC comedy block renewed?”

Alex, I'm guessing great 18-34s and/or great male demos. Those are lucrative demos.

And/or: The producers/NBC-Universal are hoping to rake in huge wads of cash when all these sitcoms reach syndication, because there is a current drought of sitcoms in syndication. I'm thinking sitcoms just don't need more than mediocre ratings to get renewed these days for that exact reason. Why else would Til Death have lasted so long?

I'm glad: IMO, P&R has become really frakking hilarious, and Community is not bad either.

From what I've been told the middle class suburban audience + 18-49 age demo are the two demographics a show must succeed with on NBC. The young male audience was once a factor, but all TV networks except CBS has young females as the priority gender.

People are saying that Flashforward was killed by the break but I disagree that was the sole or major factor in Flashforward's problems. I've watched most of the episodes on hulu and tried to enjoy it but couldn't get into it. The biggest problem I have with the show is the main character and his wife.

Anyway, the ratings Flashforward had before the break weren't incredibly far off from what they are now. I believe it was in the low 7 millions and low 2s for the demo. The bigger drop off is the ratings from the premiere to the break in the season, where the show lost over 5 million viewers and a big chunk of its demo. When a show loses that many viewers over a few months it's probably not going to survive.

I wonder how if V will wind up garnering the same amount of viewers as Flash Forward in both total viewers and 18-49.

V will definitely do better than a 1.9 in its first week back. No question about it.

Yea but at the end of the night flash forward got a 2.0 rating and the viewers are still pretty good. So u cant argue with Never yet u can say maybe or anyother synomyn to that. Plus u cant really judge this show when its been on hiatus for so long.

Those are bad ratings for FF, especially since the NCAA was it's only main competition. Most of the other stuff were repeats or already low rated shows.

FlashForward in my opinion should never have aired at 8pm. It is a 10pm show (9pm at least) due to violent and suggestive content.

And with that FlashForward goes from orange to red in the Index. I thought it would average a 2.3, lookings that promotional push didn't help at all though.

The ball's in V's court now.

With all of the hype I expected a few more people to check out it's return.
This doesn't bode well for the V comeback.

I still really think ABC should have kept Ugly Betty on Thursdays. With a good amount of promotion, Betty would have been doing okay on Thursdays.

Community & Parks and Recreation were great last night. The Office & 30 Rock were pretty awful. They need to put Community after The Office again.

I think that Marriage Ref will see bigger declines against The Mentalist and a new Private Practice. NBC might keep it for lack of anything else, and to try and stay in biz with Seinfeld. The show is horrible and is a sad reminder of how pathetic NBC is now compared to the time when Jerry was last on the network.

No first half hour bump, but the last half hour was the highest demo #. That means people tuned in and didn't tune out. That's even more impressive in today's climate.

Actually, it looks like about 6.5 million people watched it.

Shame that was probably the best episode so far.

I think it is over. I watched every episode up to the break. Wanted to like this.

But I couldn't get into at all. I thought with the right editing you could have found a decent single episode by hacking out the slow stuff out of those two.

I really don't like the lead characters. The Soppy emoting Olivia really brings nothing, I have started FFWD every time she is on screen.

The ONLY character I like right now is Simon.

Part of it must be the direction, but everyone else just seems so limp and dreary

Bottom line, they really had to “bring it” after the break. They didn't.

To be fair, Flash Forward was against the NCAA that dominated the 18-49 adult viewers. ABC should have prolonged the hiatus until March madness was over.
Flash Forward returned with excellent two-one hour episodes.

To be fair, Flash Forward was against the NCAA that dominated the 18-49 adult viewers. ABC should have prolonged the hiatus until March madness was over.
Flash Forward returned with excellent two-one hour episodes.

After this awful return performance by FlashForward, I'm no longer going to consider it a “bubble” show in my opinion. I don't see ABC bringing this back to be honest…specially with how much it probably costs and it's incredibly lack luster performance.

I'm even considering giving up on it as a viewer! I haven't seen the two hour return yet and to be honest…I'm dreading sitting down and watching it…I'm just not that excited about it.. .

After this awful return performance by FlashForward, I'm no longer going to consider it a “bubble” show in my opinion. I don't see ABC bringing this back to be honest…specially with how much it probably costs and it's incredibly lack luster performance.

I'm even considering giving up on it as a viewer! I haven't seen the two hour return yet and to be honest…I'm dreading sitting down and watching it…I'm just not that excited about it.. .